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Traffic Cops: Protecting us, or being jerks?


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#31 Reality's Fringe

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:36 PM

::shurgs:: around here, if you take the chance by not coming to the stop, you take the chance of them writing you up a 150 dollar ticket.


generally speaking it's easier to just stop. I mean it's not like he's in the wrong by doing his fucking job. Unless you're going to protest the fact there was a big red sign with STOP written on it..

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I'm not sure why people still think I'm contesting the legallity of the situation, rather than the bizzare "Well, I was going to give you a warning, but-" issue. That's what I'm on about. Why mention that you were going to give me a warning, but then pull out an excuse that makes no contextual sense? Did he want a bribe, or for me to beg for a warning? I wouldn't have even bothered to post if he just gave me the citation, but this circumstantial nonsense is what made me angry. Strictly speaking, every traffic law you break "endangers someone" (which is the theoretical reason the law was made). It just makes me question motive.
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#32 senorwoohoo

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:39 PM

The cop was doing his job, but it obviously still sucks that you got the ticket. I just got a court citation for nearly hitting a cop. He was pulled over on a bridge and I stopped about 5-10 feet behind him because I admit that I wasn't paying particular attention since I have never seen a cop on that bridge/there is no break down lane. After coming to the stop, I tried to go around the cop, but instead, he cut me off, got out of his car, and flipped out with profanity and all, which he denied later. I understand that he was pissed that he almost got hit, but as I wrote, I never hit the guy.

I apologized to him and told him that I know I made a stupid mistake, but nothing actually happened. He said, "Well what do you want me to do? You have a court date on April 6, I suggest you be there," and then he walked away. Here's the best part: He never gave me back my license and registration. He told my father, who insisted on calling the state trooper barracks, that he would mail my information back by last friday. However, I have still not received my info, and the cop has been on vacation over the last week.

Now, I know that since I have not received any tickets and that I have a clean record, the "violation" will be thrown out of court. However, am I wrong in thinking the whole thing is ridiculous since I actually didn't hit the guy/wasn't speeding/stopped at least 5 feet behind him? I know it was stupid and trust me, I feel like an idiot about it, but I'm just particularly pissed that I haven't had my information for over 10 days now.

#33 senorwoohoo

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:42 PM

It just makes me question motive.


Agreed. If you read my post, I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I have to mention that the trooper told my dad that I never apologized and if I had, it would have made the circumstance different. Hmm, well, I actually did tell him that I was sorry, but not initially. If you had almost hit a cop, would you be able to immediately apologize while catching your breath AND getting yelled at by said cop? I doubt it.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:50 PM

I got a speeding ticket in 1995 on my way back from an REM concert. I was going 69 in a 65. It was 2 a.m. and there wasn't a single other car on the highway for as far back and as far forward as I could see. What a dick.

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#35 wubb

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 03:53 PM

Definitely assholish for him to say he would just give you a warning but you are too much of a menace so he has to issue the ticket. If you are going to issue a ticket for something that BS, just do it and don't try to justify your trifling ass.

I try not to slow roll through stop signs but pretty much everyone does it. In my area I see people do it right next to cop cars all the time. (I'm not that bold/stupid.)

I was with a buddy (girl) that ran a traffic light (turned red before she was in the intersection), cop pulled her over and I was shocked that he just gave her a verbal warning and told her to slam on her brakes next time. I mean in this case she actually was a danger to other cars as that's exactly the sort of thing that can cause major accidents. Luck of the draw I guess.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:03 PM

Your Judge Mathis like tough-love is much more poignant than simply stating (like others in the thread) that the cop was right.



Oh, I was going more for Judge Judy than Mathis... Gotta work on that...

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 05:41 PM

Another thing is cops are hypocrites. Ive seen cops break all kinds of traffic laws but will pull you over and lecture you for doing the same thing. Its all bullshit.


Yep...that happens everywhere. They can do it and no one can stop them..

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#38 ryanbph

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:17 PM

go to court, if it doesn't get thrown out, the fine would be reduced. For 2 years I lived in a mid coast maine town. Middle of fucking no where, no offense any mainers out there. I got a ticket for jay walking. It was the middle of winter, 2am, and I was walking back to my apartment from the town bar. I lived in the center of town, and during the winter months, there was NO traffic, 80% of the stores/restaurants closed after tourist season. The bastard cop gave me a jay walking ticket for being about 10 feet outside of the lines. In the 15 min it took for him to give me the ticket, not 1 car passed. I went to court and got it dismissed.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:20 PM

Would I be bitter if I were to give a cop static because he attempted to pull me over for turning left on a red? It was a one way street, and in Tx its perfectly legal. Thats the ONLY damn thing I learned in defensive driving.

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Posted 09 March 2006 - 06:48 PM

I used to work with a retired PA state trooper when I was in high school. I asked him once if it was true that troopers had quotas for giving out tickets. His answer was "No, that would be illegal in PA. But if you don't give out enough tickets you'll get in trouble....."
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Posted 09 March 2006 - 07:26 PM

I got a speeding ticket in 1995 on my way back from an REM concert. I was going 69 in a 65. It was 2 a.m. and there wasn't a single other car on the highway for as far back and as far forward as I could see. What a dick.


I don't know if this is actually true, but I heard(maybe just PA) that cops can't pull you over if you are less than 5 miles over the speed limit. Or maybe it was that they can, but the ticket won't be enforced if you challenge it. Guess it depends on the $ amount if i would bother going to court for it if that were to happen.


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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:40 AM

Some cops will write a ticket for anything. I got a ticket for running a red light when i was 90% through the intersection when it turned red. I was going 45 MPH and was about 5 feet from the intersection when the light turned yellow. I guess he wanted me to slam on my brakes so i would skid into the middle of the intersection and block traffic.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:33 AM

Traffic cops = Traffic tickets / violations = Money for the government (state and local)

Fuck tha po-leece. Fuck tha po-leece, yo. Fuck 'em.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:21 AM

I would get pulled over on a regular basis with no ticket given EVER, just pulled over for a fake light being broken or some lame excuse.



With the first car I had (a 79 VW Bus), I was pulled over constantly with the "broken taillight" excuse. It was happening about once every other week or so. (I also drove home a lot at 2:30 in the morning.) On my current car, (a 00 Ford Escort) I know for a fact my right taillight is busted. This not only shows when I brake, but doubles as my rear right turn signal. I still drive around at 2:30 in the morning quite a bit, but I have not been pulled over with this car once. I've had this car for a little over 2 years now.

#45 Antiques Roadshow

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:28 AM

Yeah; the "broken taillight" excuse is common place in traffic cop bullshit.

My friend and I got pulled over for a "broken taillight", slammed the breathalyzer in my friend's face, asked us out of the vehicle, searched the car, found nothing, asked us where the "alcohol" he "smelled" was (and there was none), and then bitterly let us go 'cause he couldn't find anything.

Later, we checked the taillight... and it wasn't out.

This happens all the time, from what I hear. How can we, the citizen, prove it? Nobody will listen... and if they do, the cop will deny it.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:00 PM

Yeah; the "broken taillight" excuse is common place in traffic cop bullshit.

My friend and I got pulled over for a "broken taillight", slammed the breathalyzer in my friend's face, asked us out of the vehicle, searched the car, found nothing, asked us where the "alcohol" he "smelled" was (and there was none), and then bitterly let us go 'cause he couldn't find anything.

Later, we checked the taillight... and it wasn't out.

This happens all the time, from what I hear. How can we, the citizen, prove it? Nobody will listen... and if they do, the cop will deny it.

Uh, get out and make them show you which light is out?
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 12:44 PM

Uh, get out and make them show you which light is out?


Why? So they say "No"?

Cops should deserve the benefit of the doubt, which we gave them that time, as we wouldn't expect a cop to lie through his Burt Reynolds moustache.

One is quick to think what they'd do in that situation, but I'm 300% sure you wouldn't ask for him to show you the out taillight.

Regardless, if you did ask him to show you the taillight, they could say they made a mistake and still go about their real motives of pulling you over, since they can pull the "suspision" card.

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