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#4981 LinkinPrime

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 12:38 AM

Guess I'll make a stop to TRU in a bit. Thanks for the heads up.

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#4982 Bloomy

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 01:51 AM

Success! My local TRU had 5 MP Thundercrackers. Picked out the one with the least shelf wear. Really wish I had found them last week with the B2G1F. Also a bit ticked at myself for forgetting to print out a coupon I got from TRU, save $10 off a $75 purchase / $20 off $125 / $30 off $175 before leaving work. (Actually got 2 of them, one from TRU, another from Babies R Us, with different codes.) Would've bought a second and seriously considered a third.

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#4983 Thomas96

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 01:58 AM

Masterpiece prime has hit some stores.....
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#4984 blandstalker

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 02:22 AM

I agree with a lot of what you wrote, but they've stocked Vehicon on two separate occasions and while he only lasted 20 minutes or so the first time, the second time he lasted a couple of hours... and that's with a 2 per shipment limit. I know this because I actually debated getting a second one but didn't want to pay the shipping.

They had Rumble for a few hours too before he sold out.


A couple of hours. You'll pardon me if I don't applaud.

If you can't stock your product for any reasonable amount of time -- like days or weeks -- then you might as well hold a lottery. It's just more gambling, this time based on whether you happen to be online, available, and paying attention at the right time.

It's stupid enough for things like the SDCC exclusives. but at least there perceived rareness and exclusiveness is part of the point. It's unconscionably moronic for a general release product. When it's easier to play the stock market than order a plastic robot, there's something really wrong with your business model.

HTS is just like any other store -- they have to buy th7eir stock from Hasbro. They just recently made the change back to selling single figures but they aren't going to keep replenishing the one per case figures until the virtual pegwarmers sell since they have to buy cases, same as any other retailer.


Which is bullshit. It still comes down to Hasbro making consumer-unfriendly decisions and designing it so their product is unavailable. That HTS and Hasbro are different entities should make no difference -- certainly not to the consumer.

Again, Lego sells their entire line from their website. It can be done. At the end of the day, it's a choice and an attitude. Do you want to make your product available to the consumer or do you want to play inane games at manipulating the collectability of/demand for your product.

All of the reasons for case assortment/shortpacking/balancing go away for an online store that is an arm of the manufacturer, where supply and demand can be met and measured and responded to in realtime. It is not that hard.

As an aside Blandstalker, aren't you in Canada? From what I've seen elsewhere, Canada gets screwed to an extreme 1when it comes to Transformers distribution for some reason.


I was. I'm back now. Canada is its own special place when it comes to Transformers. Where I was, it was actually easier because TRU was (mostly) well stocked and had frequent sales, much better than the ones here. I was fortunate that I was located near a TRU that was well-run and received good stock. I had little problem getting Grimlock, Rodimus, Unicron, First Edition, and most regular items.

Other people, not so much. If you live in Quebec, you're screwed because you don't receive anything that isn't bilingual. Most of the exclusives aren't.

And sometimes all of Canada just doesn't get a wave. Sky Shadow and Junkheap were never distributed, nor were HA Leadfoot or Reverb. HA Roadbuster weirdly ended up only at a grocery chain.

I think they're also still waiting for anything beyond wave 1 Prime Deluxes. That is boggling to me -- an entire country waiting for months for regular shipments of a flagship product.
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 02:22 PM

Went into tru yesterday and the masterpiece tag for thundercracker was now gone. Never saw one hit the shelf. In its place now was a tag for masterpiece optimus so i guess that means its done and gone?

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 04:41 PM

Masterpiece prime has hit some stores.....

How much is it? Should I buy it if I see it, is it worth the $, I usually don't buy such expensive ones.
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Posted 29 September 2012 - 09:27 PM

How much is it? Should I buy it if I see it, is it worth the $, I usually don't buy such expensive ones.


99.99 plus tax.

Hell yes you should buy it (I'm biased).

I feel that the there are some versions of certain characters that are the definitive model to have. Like masterpiece grimlock....there'll never be a better version of grimlock making that MP grimlock the best one to have. I believe that this is last original version of optimus that you'll ever need. If you see it.....BUY IT!
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:03 AM

Memphis, Wolfchase area TRU.
This afternoon I saw 4 cases on the top shelf of MP Thundercracker. 4 on the shelf.
Must have been a big stock day since there were boxes everywhere around the store.

Asked the guy stocking the action figure isle if he knew anything about MP Optimus Prime. He obviously knew alot about it....
Me: do you have Masterpiece Optimus Prime in yet?
TRU employee: We don't have that anymore, but I think he have Thunderplane or something. I got mine like 15 years ago.

Me: The new Transformers Masterpiece is Optimus Prime.
TRU employee: Don't know, that may only be something another chain gets or something, maybe Walmart.

Anyway, the Memphis Wolfchase TRU won't know anything if you call them. But if you are looking for a MP Thundercracker and live in the Memphis area, there are plenty. Apparently if you want Thunderplane, they have those too. :)
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 01:14 PM

I swore I'd never collect G1 of any kind, but now Takara is releasing Fortress Maximus as Encore #23. Part of me really wants to drop $400 on the biggest Transformer ever made.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:37 PM

I swore I'd never collect G1 of any kind, but now Takara is releasing Fortress Maximus as Encore #23. Part of me really wants to drop $400 on the biggest Transformer ever made.


I preordered that the minute it went live.

You've got until April if you get the $350 one so you just need to put away like $58.30 each month. That's not too bad, just skip a few video games or something.

Anyone who wants one has six months to save for it, which is very reasonable.

It's worth it for the largest TF ever made... and we'll never see another one bigger. He'll also never, ever, ever be coming out in the US either.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 05:42 PM

holy shit that's insane. Apparently should have bought the Car Robots release years ago when BBTS had it for like 200 but couldn't justify it then...
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 06:46 PM

Works for me. I get my annual bonus at the end of February, and usually blow a healthy part of it on TFs. Was going to catch up on MP releases, but Fort Max is definitely going to be part of that.

Also happy to see MP Rumble and Ravage, though I hope they get the colors right. FIRRIB!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:07 PM

Feel free to chalk this up as heresy. I had a G1 Fort Max. I sold it and never looked back.

I think it's great if you have a good reason for wanting one. To complete a G1/Headmasters collection. Because you always wanted one. Because you think it's cool.

It took me years to realize that robots that change into buildings or bases just don't do it for me. Because there really aren't many constraints on what the final product has to look like, there's not much need to be clever, intricate, or elegant.

Fort Max is certainly big, but it's also G1. It's fairly posable for a G1 bot, but it's still a giant brick. It's also the best building ever, though that's damning with faint praise. The part I thought was best was the Headmaster-on-a-Headmaster thing with Spike and Cerebros.

If you want one, make sure you have a (large) place of honor for it. Otherwise, it becomes the world's biggest doorstop or that thing you have to climb over to get to stuff in your closet.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:19 PM

So, I was at TRU today, again for Lego minifigures (Buy 1 Get 1 40% off). I had stopped by on Monday, but it takes time to figure out what's in the blind bags, so I had to come back.

On Monday, there was no shelf tag or space for MP Prime. Typical wasteland of Bumblebees and DotM, though they had more Generations -- Kup and Wheeljack. Weird. I don't even want to know.

Today they had the shelf tag and the space laid out. So it was either here or it will be here soon. I took the tag up to the front desk to see if they could tell me if they had it in the back. The woman said that they didn't have any, weren't getting any more, and it looked like it was discontinued. There was one in stock...in Palm Desert, only 120 miles away.

I told her that they put the tag up sometime after Monday, so they'd probably be getting some. It's one of those things. She wasn't too surprised and did a kind of shrug -- "You know Toys R Us". Yah. Too well.

What kind of system is this, where store employees can't even tell if they ever had it or ever will again? I'll also note that there's a big sign saying "Reserve the Hot Holiday Toys Now!" and a stapled sheet listing toys you can preorder at the front desk. No, of course Masterpiece Optimus Prime isn't on it.

Oh, by the way, the shelf tag and space for MP Thundercracker is gone. So sorry you blinked.
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Posted 03 October 2012 - 11:42 PM

So, I was at TRU today, again for Lego minifigures (Buy 1 Get 1 40% off). I had stopped by on Monday, but it takes time to figure out what's in the blind bags, so I had to come back.

On Monday, there was no shelf tag or space for MP Prime. Typical wasteland of Bumblebees and DotM, though they had more Generations -- Kup and Wheeljack. Weird. I don't even want to know.

Today they had the shelf tag and the space laid out. So it was either here or it will be here soon. I took the tag up to the front desk to see if they could tell me if they had it in the back. The woman said that they didn't have any, weren't getting any more, and it looked like it was discontinued. There was one in stock...in Palm Desert, only 120 miles away.

I told her that they put the tag up sometime after Monday, so they'd probably be getting some. It's one of those things. She wasn't too surprised and did a kind of shrug -- "You know Toys R Us". Yah. Too well.

What kind of system is this, where store employees can't even tell if they ever had it or ever will again? I'll also note that there's a big sign saying "Reserve the Hot Holiday Toys Now!" and a stapled sheet listing toys you can preorder at the front desk. No, of course Masterpiece Optimus Prime isn't on it.

Oh, by the way, the shelf tag and space for MP Thundercracker is gone. So sorry you blinked.


If the tag was out, the item was in stock for them to make the label. From what I've been seeing, stores are only getting 1 case at a time for some reason. The fact that she told you they weren't getting more in is plain wrong. She could have seen inventory of their warehouse and seen they have the inventory in stock.

What a lot of stores are being told to do is, whenever an item sells out, replace it with something else that is in stock so there are not that many empty holes on shelves. That is probably why the Thundercracker label was gone.

Also, Thundercracker went up in price to $74.99 this past Monday.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:30 AM

I was able to get a masterpiece prime today. I had to go early in the morning ( I was able to get off work for a moment). As I'm walking in the TRU, I see a guy walking out with a MP Prime (now I'm worried cause that means one left). I'm waking to the transformer section and the TRU guy remembered me (he told me last week that they may come on Thursday's truck) and told me they had one more left on the shelf, (mind you...tru is stocking all of their new items). When I went to get MP optimus from the shelf there's a guy squatting right in front of it, looking at a toy just below it. So I told the guy. " excuse me.. Let me.grab this right here" took the Prime and ran off.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 03:32 AM

Pre-ordered and haven't gotten it yet. Starting to get a bit nervous.
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:45 PM

BBTS has all the First Edition figures on preorder:

http://www.bigbadtoy...aspx?list=10856

Grabbed myself a Prime and a Vehicon. Prices are a bit higher than TRU but I hate TRU for many of the same reasons that keep popping up in this thread again and again. Love BBTS though!

There was just no way I'm going to hit my local TRUs at close to Christmas time for what is bound to be the popular figures. I recommend if anyone wants an FE Bulkhead, just order it from BBTS at $30 (or get the two pack of Prime / Bulk, $25 per figure then which is cheaper than TRU.)

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 08:10 PM

Are you saying that the first edition deluxes & voyagers are coming out exclusive to TRU and BBTS? They are being rereleased?
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Posted 08 October 2012 - 09:53 PM

I just went ahead and preordered them. Expensive (especially FE Vehicon) but with TRU's already marked up prices, tax, and gas money I can justify it lol. Plus the fact that I've never seen a MP:TC in store and my local store is still flooded with god damned DotM Bumblebee, not worth the gamble of trying to find it in store.


A bit off topic: Anyone know anything about 3rd party figs going on sale? Finally got a real job (no longer contracting! Yay!) and want to look into 3rd party. Seriously considering taking the expensive dive into TFC: Hercules (and eventually Project Uranus), but do these damned things ever go on sale? It's 600 bucks (but I wants it).

Also considering Knight Morpher Cyclops (Hearts of Steel Shockwave) if it ever comes back in stock (don't really care for KM Prime or the seakers, but that shockwave is gorgeous and gigantic)

Also considering the Fansproject TFX battle armors for Classics Ultra Magnus and Rodimus, but aren't sure they're worth the ~120.00+shipping asking price on toyarena...

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 10:21 PM

http://www.amazon.co...eywords=vehicon

Prime Vehicon up at Amazon, $18 a piece, they have about 30 or so left.

I bought two more, the mold is fantastic and easily one of the best Prime transformers bar none across the entire line, even counting Takara and FE stuff.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 10:40 PM

I just went ahead and preordered them. Expensive (especially FE Vehicon) but with TRU's already marked up prices, tax, and gas money I can justify it lol. Plus the fact that I've never seen a MP:TC in store and my local store is still flooded with god damned DotM Bumblebee, not worth the gamble of trying to find it in store.


A bit off topic: Anyone know anything about 3rd party figs going on sale? Finally got a real job (no longer contracting! Yay!) and want to look into 3rd party. Seriously considering taking the expensive dive into TFC: Hercules (and eventually Project Uranus), but do these damned things ever go on sale? It's 600 bucks (but I wants it).

Also considering Knight Morpher Cyclops (Hearts of Steel Shockwave) if it ever comes back in stock (don't really care for KM Prime or the seakers, but that shockwave is gorgeous and gigantic)

Also considering the Fansproject TFX battle armors for Classics Ultra Magnus and Rodimus, but aren't sure they're worth the ~120.00+shipping asking price on toyarena...


Cyclops is still in-stock a few places... don't own it yet though so can't talk about it. Also only own 3/6 of Hercules and what I have is unopened, haha.

I do own the Magnus (City Commander) and Rodimus (Protector) armors, and they are both fantastic. This is probably the only time we will ever see a proper Ultra Magnus with a trailer -- FansProject nailed a G1 styled update to Magnus 100%. One of my favorite third party figures I own and is a must-own if you have a Classics Magnus. In fact, I love the armor so much I own it a second time for my SDCC Nemesis Prime.

Likewise, the Rodimus armor is just as awesome... the trailer even converts into an awesome battle platform. Like City Commander, it creates what is the perfect G1 update for Rodimus. Hasbro is never going to give us a proper Magnus or Rodimus with a trailer... not in a million years at the Deluxe / Voyager size class. Hell, you're lucky to get an Optimus trailer.

But really, it ties into how much you love those characters. I love Season 3 above everything else so yea, it was absolutely worth it to me. If you're not a really a fan of Season 3 or Rodimus / Magnus, your money is better spent elsewhere. Making a Season 3 cast at this point, at least for the Autobots, requires almost 100% third party parts... only one I think doesn't need them is Blurr. Even Kup needs a new head.

Honestly, for your first third party figures I'd recommend getting the Bruticus re-issue that is coming out along with the FansProject re-release of Munitioner (Swindle) and Explorer (Blast-Off) to make a Bruticus that destroys Hasbro's efforts at one. FansProject's Bruticus is held high as one of the best third party figures out there and for good reason.

As for these figures going on sale? Barely ever. BBTS once had a 25% off sale off all third party figures but it was the first time they ever did so and no other retailer has ever done such a sale. Usually these are slow burners but they do sell out, as evidenced with Cyclops, so stores don't mind just sitting on their stock until it sells. All it takes is one store selling out before a panic reaction from the fandom causes people to buy the figures from the other sites.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 10:56 PM

Let me second unreservedly the recommendations for Bruticus or City Commander. They are among the best Transformers I own bar none. City Commander is so good, and there's nothing that comes even remotely close to capturing G1 Ultra Magnus. Bruticus is what the combiner could have been all along. They are both like dream figures. They don't get much better.

Rodimus/Protector is still very good, but those two above should not be missed.

I'm not quite as big a fan of Season 3 as animalspinners, but I always liked the designs. I thought they tapped into something iconic with the movie and Season 3, but of course it's taken until recently for anyone to produce toys that could live up to the design. City Commander and FP Bruticus do that, and they do it in spades.

3rd party stuff as a rule doesn't go on sale much. Only if there is overstock or if it's one of the lesser 3rd parties (I'm looking at you BTS Sonicron) you might get a crack at something, but I don't recommend it. They tend to sell out and they tend to keep their value, even with reissues.

For the multi-figure sets, you might get lucky. I remember seeing some Hercules sets (once they had all come out) at...was it TF Source or Ages 3 and Up -- one of them -- that were discounted a bit. It ended up in the $450-$500 range, if I'm not mistaken or hallucinating. Since then, though, it's back up where it was.

Or it could sell out completely, like the yellow Maketoys Giant. That kinda surprised me, as I thought green would rule the day. Just goes to show you that just because I don't have a thing for G2 doesn't mean others don't. There are no certainties here.

But they're still easier to get than Hasbro toys. Missed FE Vehicon. Grr.
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:00 PM

Thanks guys. Looks like I'll def be picking up a City Commander (as I definitely do have classics Magnus) and possibly Protector. TF:TM/Season 3 has some of my absolute favorite designs (huge fan of cybertronian alt modes) for sure :D

Might get the Bruticus figs, though I'm disappointed they didn't do a Vortex, Brawl, and Onslaught. I have the full Energon Bruticus fig already (so would have to rebuy the new release for colors that mesh), and while I get they did BlastOff and Swindle because the energon figs only had 2 unique limbs, they seem so much better than the others I'd love to see what they could do with a full on unique creation.

I'm a complete sucker for gestalts though, so definitely eventually want Hercules, Uranus, and possibly Giant.
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

Or it could sell out completely, like the yellow Maketoys Giant. That kinda surprised me, as I thought green would rule the day. Just goes to show you that just because I don't have a thing for G2 doesn't mean others don't. There are no certainties here.


Well, Yellow Giant sold out not because its G2, but because it was a very limited release. When you throw the words "limited" and "Transformers" together, you're guaranteeing a sellout as there are always people who will buy it just to say they have it because its limited.

Might get the Bruticus figs, though I'm disappointed they didn't do a Vortex, Brawl, and Onslaught. I have the full Energon Bruticus fig already (so would have to rebuy the new release for colors that mesh), and while I get they did BlastOff and Swindle because the energon figs only had 2 unique limbs, they seem so much better than the others I'd love to see what they could do with a full on unique creation.

I'm a complete sucker for gestalts though, so definitely eventually want Hercules, Uranus, and possibly Giant.


FP is doing a Menasor later this year / early next year with all five bots. That should be awesome.

Personally, I'd just go with Giant as he's cheaper and still looks good. If I wasn't 3/6 into Hercules, I'd honestly go with Giant. Use that extra $300 you're saving to get some other stuff. One day I'll get around to pulling the trigger but Hercules stuff isn't really moving at any retailer any more so I'm in no rush.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:21 PM

I got the TRU Masterpiece Prime, it's $115, not $100 (TRU marked up the price after the first week of release). At first I thought this Prime is just another re-release of the earlier MP Prime. Boy, I was wrong (didn't read any TF news so I'm pretty much out of the loop). The Prime is smaller, but a lot detailed than the first MP Prime. The head looks a lot cooler too, a truly complete masterpiece in my book, well worth the $115 price tag! I skipped the MP Starscream and the repainted MP Thundercracker (love to have them all, but got bills to pay, sigh). The only thing that stops me getting the Fanproject stuff is money :P

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:13 PM

I got the TRU Masterpiece Prime, it's $115, not $100 (TRU marked up the price after the first week of release).


There are different prices at different TRUs for some reason.

I had a friend go into the next city and pick up a Prime today, rang up $99.99. However, in the city in the opposite direction, Prime rings up $114.99.

Eventually it will probably be one set price everywhere but for right now, its just a matter of luck if your TRU has the lower price or not.

I've even seen a report of people finding it for $110, so who knows what the deal is. Probably just TRU experimenting with the price to see if they can still sell them at $115 before they raise it nationally.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:13 PM

As of right now, Masterpiece Thundercracker is in stock at TRU. Follow the link.

Masterpiece Optimus is still not listed.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:32 AM

I got the TRU Masterpiece Prime, it's $115, not $100 (TRU marked up the price after the first week of release). At first I thought this Prime is just another re-release of the earlier MP Prime. Boy, I was wrong (didn't read any TF news so I'm pretty much out of the loop). The Prime is smaller, but a lot detailed than the first MP Prime. The head looks a lot cooler too, a truly complete masterpiece in my book, well worth the $115 price tag! I skipped the MP Starscream and the repainted MP Thundercracker (love to have them all, but got bills to pay, sigh). The only thing that stops me getting the Fanproject stuff is money :P



I wanted that fan project Hercules so bad, but I can't bring myself to spend that much for it.
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Posted 10 October 2012 - 05:54 PM

Just got in some of the Arms Micron single pack weapons -- these are well worth the $7 or so a piece to outfit your RID Voyagers with decent weapons and not that MechTech garbage.

I gave Dreadwing the Shell 2 and it looks great on him!





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