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Bush's National Guard File Missing Records
By MATT KELLEY

WASHINGTON (AP) - Documents that should have been written to explain gaps in President Bush's Texas Air National Guard service are missing from the military records released about his service in 1972 and 1973, according to regulations and outside experts.

For example, Air National Guard regulations at the time required commanders to write an investigative report for the Air Force when Bush missed his annual medical exam in 1972. The regulations also required commanders to confirm in writing that Bush received counseling after missing five months of drills.

No such records have been made public and the government told The Associated Press in response to a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that it has released all records it can find.

Outside experts suggest that National Guard commanders may not have produced documentation required by their own regulations.

``One of the downfalls back then in the National Guard was that not everyone wanted to be chief of staff of the Air Force. They just wanted to fly or maintain airplanes. So the record keeping could have been better,'' said retired Maj. Gen. Paul A. Weaver Jr., a former head of the Air National Guard. He said the documents may not have been kept in the first place.

Challenging the government's declaration that no more documents exist, the AP identified five categories of records that should have been generated after Bush skipped his pilot's physical and missed five months of training.

``Each of these actions by any member of the National Guard should have generated the creation of many documents that have yet to be produced,'' AP lawyer David Schulz wrote the Justice Department Aug. 26.

White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said there were no other documents to explain discrepancies in Bush's files.

Military service during the Vietnam War has become an issue in the presidential election as both candidates debate the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Democrat John Kerry commanded a Navy Swift boat in Vietnam and won five medals, including a Silver Star. But his heroism has been challenged in ads by some veterans who support Bush.

The president served stateside in the Air National Guard during Vietnam. Democrats have accused him of shirking his Guard service and getting favored treatment as the son of a prominent Washington figure.

The AP talked to experts unaffiliated with either campaign who have reviewed Bush's files for missing documents. They said it was not unusual for guard commanders to ignore deficiencies by junior officers such as Bush. But they said missing a physical exam, which caused him to be grounded, was not common.

``It's sort of like a code of honor that you didn't go DNF (duty not including flying),'' said retired Air Force Col. Leonard Walls, who flew 181 combat missions over Vietnam. ``There was a lot of pride in keeping combat-ready status.''

Bush has said he fulfilled all his obligations. He was in the Texas Air National Guard from 1968 to 1973 and was trained to fly F-102 fighters.

``I'm proud of my service,'' Bush told a rally last weekend in Lima, Ohio.

Records of Bush's service have significant gaps, starting in 1972. Bush has said he left Texas that year to work on the unsuccessful Senate campaign in Alabama of family friend Winton Blount.

The five kinds of missing files are:

A report from the Texas Air National Guard to Bush's local draft board certifying that Bush remained in good standing. The government has released copies of those DD Form 44 documents for Bush for 1971 and earlier years but not for 1972 or 1973. Records from Bush's draft board in Houston do not show his draft status changed after he joined the guard in 1968. The AP obtained the draft board records Aug. 27 under the Freedom of Information Act.

Records of a required investigation into why Bush lost flight status. When Bush skipped his 1972 physical, regulations required his Texas commanders to ``direct an investigation as to why the individual failed to accomplish the medical examination,'' according to the Air Force manual at the time. An investigative report was supposed to be forwarded ``with the command recommendation'' to Air Force officials ``for final determination.''

Bush's spokesmen have said he skipped the exam because he knew he would be doing desk duty in Alabama. But Bush was required to take the physical by the end of July 1972, more than a month before he won final approval to train in Alabama.

A written acknowledgment from Bush that he had received the orders grounding him. His Texas commanders were ordered to have Bush sign such a document; but none has been released.

Reports of formal counseling sessions Bush was required to have after missing more than three training sessions. Bush missed at least five months' worth of National Guard training in 1972. No documents have surfaced indicating Bush was counseled or had written authorization to skip that training or make it up later. Commanders did have broad discretion to allow guardsmen to make up for missed training sessions, said Weaver and Lawrence Korb, Pentagon personnel chief during the Reagan administration from 1981 to 1985.

``If you missed it, you could make it up,'' said Korb, who now works for the Center for American Progress, which supports Kerry.

A signed statement from Bush acknowledging he could be called to active duty if he did not promptly transfer to another guard unit after leaving Texas. The statement was required as part of a Vietnam-era crackdown on no-show guardsmen. Bush was approved in September 1972 to train with the Alabama unit, more than four months after he left Texas.

Bush was approved approval to train in September, October and November 1972 with the Alabama Air National Guard's 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group. The only record tying Bush to that unit is a dental exam at the group's Montgomery base in January 1973. No records have been released giving Bush permission to train with the 187th after November 1972.

Walls, the Air Force combat veteran, was assigned to the 187th in 1972 and 1973 to train its pilots to fly the F-4 Phantom. Walls and more than a dozen other members of the 187th say they never saw Bush. One member of the unit, retired Lt. Col. John Calhoun, has said he remembers Bush showing up for training with the 187th.

Pay records show Bush was credited for training in January, April and May 1973; other files indicate that service was outside Texas.

A May 1973 yearly evaluation from Bush's Texas unit gives the future president no ratings and stated Bush had not been seen at the Texas base since April 1972. In a directive from June 29, 1973, an Air Force personnel official pressed Bush's unit for information about his Alabama service.

``This officer should have been reassigned in May 1972,'' wrote Master Sgt. Daniel P. Harkness, ``since he no longer is training in his AFSC (Air Force Service Category, or job title) or with his unit of assignment.''

Then-Maj. Rufus G. Martin replied Nov. 12, 1973: ``Not rated for the period 1 May 72 through 30 Apr 73. Report for this period not available for administrative reasons.''

By then, Texas Air National Guard officials had approved Bush's request to leave the guard to attend Harvard Business School; his last days of duty were in July 1973.

09/05/04 12:36
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Keep punching that pillow. They've been trying since January and nothing's stuck. It won't matter that now John Kerry is the messenger as opposed to moveon.org, Michael Moore or any of the Democratic talking head punditry.

The focus of this election has changed. Anything in Bush's records is 20 news cycles ago and now John Kerry is finally having to account for his post-war activities and Senate votes. In other words he's toast.

11 point leads in the Time and Newsweek polls and the best you have is Bush's National Guard records? Only one President in modern times has been ahead on Labor Day and not won re-election, Jimmy Carter. Then again, Jimmy Carter gave his "malaise" speech in an attempt to lift up the nation from double digit unemployment and interest rates. Wonder why he lost.

Keep this for your archives so in the next four years you have something to lament mmmkay?
 
I never said this was the best reason to vote against Bush. The past four years of his administration is the best reason to vote him out.
 
There's no point in even printing these stories anymore. Just like the Swift Boat issue, they've run their course. Any damage that would be done has been done and no one is hearing these things for the first time anymore.

I'm still convinced that the real issue that's going to turn this election has not yet raised its head.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']I'm still convinced that the real issue that's going to turn this election has not yet raised its head.[/quote]

Okay, I'm curious. What do you think that issue is?
 
if you believe bush is responsible for that, then I got a rock that keeps tigers away. I havent been attacked by tigers, so it must work.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Keep punching that pillow. They've been trying since January and nothing's stuck. It won't matter that now John Kerry is the messenger as opposed to moveon.org, Michael Moore or any of the Democratic talking head punditry.

The focus of this election has changed. Anything in Bush's records is 20 news cycles ago and now John Kerry is finally having to account for his post-war activities and Senate votes. In other words he's toast.

11 point leads in the Time and Newsweek polls and the best you have is Bush's National Guard records? Only one President in modern times has been ahead on Labor Day and not won re-election, Jimmy Carter. Then again, Jimmy Carter gave his "malaise" speech in an attempt to lift up the nation from double digit unemployment and interest rates. Wonder why he lost.[/quote]



Yes, let's compare Kerry's senate record comapred to Bush's. PLEASE!!!!! Bush loses that contest by a FAR margin. Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history, especially for his economic and social policies and especially his ability to protect America.

What exactly has Bush done right? When has he EVER done anything right? Bush has gotten everything handed to him because of his family name. His businesses have had to have been rescued by family friends, and since he has nothing to show for his presidency, all he can do is run negative ads that are outright distortions and lies of Kerry's record.
 
[quote name='ZarathosNY'] Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history, especially for his economic and social policies and especially his ability to protect America.[/quote]

At least he's not as bad as FDR or Carter.
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='ZarathosNY'] Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history, especially for his economic and social policies and especially his ability to protect America.[/quote]

At least he's not as bad as FDR or Carter.[/quote]

I really hope you're joking. If not, get well soon and I hope the lobotomy scars don't show.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='ZarathosNY'] Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history, especially for his economic and social policies and especially his ability to protect America.[/quote]

At least he's not as bad as FDR or Carter.[/quote]

I really hope you're joking. If not, get well soon and I hope the lobotomy scars don't show.[/quote]

Well, maybe Carter wasn't all that bad, but fucking Roosevelt ....
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='ZarathosNY'] Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history, especially for his economic and social policies and especially his ability to protect America.[/quote]

At least he's not as bad as FDR or Carter.[/quote]

I really hope you're joking. If not, get well soon and I hope the lobotomy scars don't show.[/quote]

Well, maybe Carter wasn't all that bad, but shaq-fuing Roosevelt ....[/quote]
:shock:
 
[quote name='guardian_owl'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='ZarathosNY'] Bush is going to go down as one of the worst presidents in history, especially for his economic and social policies and especially his ability to protect America.[/quote]

At least he's not as bad as FDR or Carter.[/quote]

I really hope you're joking. If not, get well soon and I hope the lobotomy scars don't show.[/quote]

Well, maybe Carter wasn't all that bad, but shaq-fuing Roosevelt ....[/quote]
:shock:[/quote]

That was supposed to make it clear that I was kidding, although it was an apparent failure.

I do hate FDR though.
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']That was supposed to make it clear that I was kidding, although it was an apparent failure.

I do hate FDR though.[/quote]

I'm really curious now. Care to list a few reasons why you hate FDR so much?
 
[quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']That was supposed to make it clear that I was kidding, although it was an apparent failure.

I do hate FDR though.[/quote]

I'm really curious now. Care to list a few reasons why you hate FDR so much?[/quote]
Let's see ... it could be due to the fact that he kept getting re-elected mainly because he made the people feel good. He was president for over 6 years before WW2, and in all that time nothing he tried to do to stop the depression worked. He gave us many social programs that only serve to weaken America to this day. And, oh yeah, he was best buds with Josef Stalin, and we all know what a positive thing that was.

Most of all it's because many people believe he is one of the greatest presidents of all time when in actuality he accomplished almost nothing of real value during the longest presidency this country will ever see.
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']That was supposed to make it clear that I was kidding, although it was an apparent failure.

I do hate FDR though.[/quote]

I'm really curious now. Care to list a few reasons why you hate FDR so much?[/quote]
Let's see ... it could be due to the fact that he kept getting re-elected mainly because he made the people feel good. He was president for over 6 years before WW2, and in all that time nothing he tried to do to stop the depression worked. He gave us many social programs that only serve to weaken America to this day. And, oh yeah, he was best buds with Josef Stalin, and we all know what a positive thing that was.[/quote]

Thank you for the laugh today. Are presidents supposed to get re-elected by making people feel bad? Regarding the Depression... nevermind. I was gonna argue these points with you but I can tell it would really be a waste of my time. I will just say that we teamed up with Stalin to go after some bad guy at the time. Now who was it? Some real nutjob bent on world domination... Saddam?... no, that's not it. Osama bin Something?... not him either. Oh yeah! It was fucking HITLER!

Read a book.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl'][quote name='MrBadExample'][quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']That was supposed to make it clear that I was kidding, although it was an apparent failure.

I do hate FDR though.[/quote]

I'm really curious now. Care to list a few reasons why you hate FDR so much?[/quote]
Let's see ... it could be due to the fact that he kept getting re-elected mainly because he made the people feel good. He was president for over 6 years before WW2, and in all that time nothing he tried to do to stop the depression worked. He gave us many social programs that only serve to weaken America to this day. And, oh yeah, he was best buds with Josef Stalin, and we all know what a positive thing that was.[/quote]

Thank you for the laugh today. Are presidents supposed to get re-elected by making people feel bad? Regarding the Depression... nevermind. I was gonna argue these points with you but I can tell it would really be a waste of my time. I will just say that we teamed up with Stalin to go after some bad guy at the time. Now who was it? Some real nutjob bent on world domination... Saddam?... no, that's not it. Osama bin Something?... not him either. Oh yeah! It was shaq-fuing HITLER!

Read a book.[/quote]

It's not bad to make the people feel good, but when that's all you've done you're a failure.

And Stalin was much worse than Hitler ever was, I think you're the one who needs to read a book.
 
So what was your great plan for WWII? Let Hitler have Europe? Join up with Hitler to fight Stalin?

Yeah Stalin was an asshole too but we used him to defeat Hitler.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']So what was your great plan for WWII? Let Hitler have Europe? Join up with Hitler to fight Stalin?

Yeah Stalin was an asshole too but we used him to defeat Hitler.[/quote]

True, but FDR wanted to continue working with Stalin after the war.

In any case, my hatred for FDR is as deep, unwavering, and probably unjustified as my hate for U2.
 
It's better to work with people and try to change them rather than exclude them and let them do whatever they want. That's why China stays on the Most Favored Nations list despite the crackdowns on their own people.

Besides FDR dies before the war was over so it's impossible to say what he would have done with Stalin after we didn't need his help.
 
[quote name='MrBadExample']It's better to work with people and try to change them rather than exclude them and let them do whatever they want. That's why China stays on the Most Favored Nations list despite the crackdowns on their own people.

Besides FDR dies before the war was over so it's impossible to say what he would have done with Stalin after we didn't need his help.[/quote]

I agree with the first part, but China is on the Most Favored Nations list for one reason and one reason only, M-O-N-E-Y.
 
[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']I agree with the first part, but China is on the Most Favored Nations list for one reason and one reason only, M-O-N-E-Y.[/quote]

Yes, I meant to add that they are also a huge market for US goods as well.
 
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