CAGs: I have hundreds of good games in my backlog, what should I do? Oh I know, take a gamble and order another 5 games that are either shovelware or half decent games that I will definitely not play in the next five years!
Whether you agree that it was helpful or not, that was the intent. Pointing out a couple of places where one could get a DEAL on some GAMES. Isn't that the point of this site? I forgot that if it's not from Walmart or Best Buy, it's not a deal.
You think it's a deal. Most of us do not think it is a deal. You can argue against us until hell freezes over and we still won't categorize it as a deal. Even if by some godly miracle that we all admitted it's a "deal", it would be a very bad "deal". And our final attitude would remain the same as the result of this poll: we don't want it on the main deals page.
If I were you I would have backed out of this whole thing as soon as I see I am clearly proposing something that most members dislike. Yet somehow you managed to stick to your case, blow it out of proportion with Gandhi references and brought ridicule among yourself. Even until this point you are still going at it, which is really amusing now seeing that you have been here for years and never caused a big disturbance like this. The last time we unified against somebody is that douche bag who tried to educate everybody that KoA should be called Reckoning.
OK. That's a good reason. Re: that issue, a designated thread (or sub-section) dedicated to crowd-funding makes sense. However, why is Kickstarter any different than any of the other crap that's on there now that is allowed to stay? That's the heart of that particular argument...where do you draw the line?
We have been fighting for clutter reduction on the main page for a long time. That's why MSRP posts gets reported and deleted. Shady websites that nobody have heard of gets reported and deleted. That's why the CE thread is a megathread. And bad deals (but still deals) gets sunk through no activity. Unfortunately it is an uphill battle due to the easiness of registration, and a side effect of CAG becoming more popular. Kickstarter is among the worst that we have been fighting against, and if it weren't for you, it wouldn't even be an issue.
Re: the cheap/poor issue, It seems to me that cheap and/or poor people would be that much more interested in getting games for significant discounts over the release prices. Isn't that the point here? Yes, there is risk. But in my mind, part of being a cheapass gamer is getting any discount on any game I can. Personally I can afford to pay full price for games, but I'm cheap so I don't want to. So Kickstarter is a great way to do that. I got Original Sin for less than 50% of the release price. I got Wasteland 2 for less than 25%. Those are great discounts on two great games. Sharing those discounts seems to be the point of this site, no?
Kickstarter is a gamble. If you don't think it is a gamble then I will walk away from this argument. The moment it becomes a gamble it is not a deal suited for cheap asses. A deal is simple. I pay less, I get game, I play game. [optional] I trade in game via promos so I can afford new games at well below MSRP [/optional]. There is no risk, no gamble. If you bring up the issue of there is risk in purchasing anything from any retailer again I will also walk away from this argument.
Why are YOU so dead set on them not being there? For the life of me I can't figure out why people are upset about this. I get if people don't like Kickstarter, but then...just don't click on the threads about Kickstarter.
Front page clutter. I can't figure out why you can't figure it out.
I am cheap (and/or poor). I want to spend the least amount of money to play games. I come to this site to find deals. I want the main page to be only about deals. I cannot afford to gamble, if I could, I wouldn't be on this site.
First thing you do when receiving GF disc is run your finger along the edges. If you feel no roughness then you are lucky. I always received chipped discs, but since I can't afford new games, I just have to deal with it.
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