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Europe PS+ vs. USA PS+

Posted by tylerh1701, 29 October 2012 · 103 views

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This topic has been a source of debate since the introduction of the Instant Game Collection for PS+ in June. Since European regions and US regions are getting different games for free from the program, it's been quite a source of contention. Here on CAG the debates have been relatively reasonable, but on places like the PlayStation Blog the debating and whining and complaining has hit cringe-worthy levels. If you haven't checked it out for yourself, just go ahead and browse through the comments of this recent PS Blog post. The general consensus here in the US is that the Europe PS+ program is blowing ours out of the water.

Since I'm a huge proponent of PS+ (I have a US account) and a huge opponent of baseless whining, I went back and did a little research to see how the US PS+ and EU PS+ offering stack up against each other.

Keep in mind this only contains info about the free games being made available on the program, and doesn't take into account any region-specific discounts that have been made available. I'll try to present the facts as best as I can, then will include my personal opinion in an editorial at the end.

Games given away from PS+ since June 1, 2012:
Europe: 25*
USA: 25*

(12 games were given out to both regions and 13 games were only made available for free in one of the regions)

Games given away in both regions:
Virtua Fighter 5
inFamous 2
Little Big Planet 2
Warhammer 40000: Space Marine
Just Cause 2
Saints Row 2
Lara Croft: Guardian of Light
Renegade Ops
Outland
Borderlands
Double Dragon Neon
Scott Pilgrim vs. the World

Games given away ONLY in USA:
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
Hard Corps: Uprising
Choplifter HD
Zombie Apocalypse: NDA
Sideway NY
Gotham City Imposters
Pac Man Championship Edition DX
The Walking Dead: Episodes 1 & 2
Bloodrayne: Betrayal
Starhawk (Single Player)
NFL Blitz
King of Fighters XIII
Payday: The Heist

Games given away ONLY in Europe:
Chime Super Deluxe
Darksiders
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
Motorstorm Apocalypse
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Dead Space 2
Rock of Ages
Retro/Grade
Red Dead Redemption
Mancharium
Hell Yeah!
Bulletstorm
Resident Evil 5

So as you can see, both regions have received 25 games at this point. Of the 13 unique games in each region, USA received 2.5 retail games (.5 is for Starhawk Single Player only) and 10 PSN games. Europe received far more retail games, getting 7 of those and 6 PSN games.

The USA received 1 game that had been released within the last 3 months (The Walking Dead) and Europe received 4 (Hell Yeah!, Mancharium, Retro/Grade, and Rock of Ages).

Editorial Section:
Before I assembled the list, I felt that Europe was offering more games that I was interested in. After assembling the list, I feel that way even more.

The important thing to remember is that everybody's opinion of a certain game is different, and everyone is going to value each game differently. That being said, I'd say the European PS+ program has taken a far more mainstream approach in their selection of games than the US has, and that is probably why the majority of people feel like the European selection is far better.

The US has clearly focused on providing more PSN games whereas Europe has focused more on full retail titles. Unlike the majority of posters on the PS Blog, I personally prefer getting PSN games to full retail games through PS+ because most of Europe's full retail games can be easily acquired for $5-$10 at this point. The problem is that a lot of the PSN games the US program has made available are quite old, and I've picked them up before during previous sales. That being said, I was happy to get games like NFL Blitz, Walking Dead, Choplifter HD, and Gotham City Imposters. However, I feel like the Europe PS+ program has done a better job in this area, too, making games like Hell Yeah!, Retro/Grade, and Mancharium free on Day 1. The US hasn't had a *unique* day 1 freebie since the Instant Game Collection started in June.

The US PS+ program also seems to be targeting niche genres more than Europe. NFL Blitz is only going to appeal to sports games fans, and King of Fighters XIII is a fighting game that is only going to appeal to a very limited audience. Even games like Payday and Gotham City Imposters are only going to appeal to those who enjoy playing multiplayer shooters. Europe's games like Darksiders, Oddworld, Deus Ex, Dead Space 2, Red Dead Redemption, Bulletstorm, and even Resident Evil 5 are all more focused on single player action in either a 1st or 3rd person action-adventure genre.

I'm glad I put this list together for myself, because it helps me understand where all the complainers are coming from. I'm not saying I condone the type of whining going on at places like the PS Blog, I'm one who believes in honest but polite criticism. PS+ is still an amazing value no matter which region your subscribed to, and I still feel like most of the whining about the US version of the program is childish and uncalled for.

But now I better understand that Europe's focus on more mainstream games seems to be garnering it far more praise from PS+ members than the US's focus on niche and PSN titles.

Any other PS+ subscribers here? What do you guys think?

(Also, sorry for making this post so long. I'm a firm believer in "brevity is...wit")

EDIT: Please note that I forgot to mention at least 2 PSOne Classics and 1 Mini that US PS+ received. I have no clue if these were also made available on the European PS+ Program. - Thanks Josh1Billion

Also, I guess I glossed over this, but I obviously didn't mention anything about the the 12 games that both regions received. This blog post was about comparing the 2 regions, and the 12 games that both regions received canceled each other out and therefore didn't require further mention.





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This topic has been a source of debate since the introduction of the Instant Game Collection for PS+ in June. Since European regions and US regions are getting different games for free from the program, it's been quite a source of contention. Here on CAG the debates have been relatively reasonable, but on places like the PlayStation Blog the debating and whining and complaining has hit cringe-worthy levels. If you haven't checked it out for yourself, just go ahead and browse through the comments of this recent PS Blog post. The general consensus here in the US is that the Europe PS+ program is blowing ours out of the water.

Since I'm a huge proponent of PS+ (I have a US account) and a huge opponent of baseless whining, I went back and did a little research to see how the US PS+ and EU PS+ offering stack up against each other.

Keep in mind this only contains info about the free games being made available on the program, and doesn't take into account any region-specific discounts that have been made available. I'll try to present the facts as best as I can, then will include my personal opinion in an editorial at the end.

Games given away from PS+ since June 1, 2012:
Europe: 25*
USA: 25*

(12 games were given out to both regions and 13 games were only made available for free in one of the regions)

Games given away in both regions:
Virtua Fighter 5
inFamous 2
Little Big Planet 2
Warhammer 40000: Space Marine
Just Cause 2
Saints Row 2
Lara Croft: Guardian of Light
Renegade Ops
Outland
Borderlands
Double Dragon Neon
Scott Pilgrim vs. the World

Games given away ONLY in USA:
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
Hard Corps: Uprising
Choplifter HD
Zombie Apocalypse: NDA
Sideway NY
Gotham City Imposters
Pac Man Championship Edition DX
The Walking Dead: Episodes 1 & 2
Bloodrayne: Betrayal
Starhawk (Single Player)
NFL Blitz
King of Fighters XIII
Payday: The Heist

Games given away ONLY in Europe:
Chime Super Deluxe
Darksiders
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath HD
Motorstorm Apocalypse
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Dead Space 2
Rock of Ages
Retro/Grade
Red Dead Redemption
Mancharium
Hell Yeah!
Bulletstorm
Resident Evil 5

So as you can see, both regions have received 25 games at this point. Of the 13 unique games in each region, USA received 2.5 retail games (.5 is for Starhawk Single Player only) and 10 PSN games. Europe received far more retail games, getting 7 of those and 6 PSN games.

The USA received 1 game that had been released within the last 3 months (The Walking Dead) and Europe received 4 (Hell Yeah!, Mancharium, Retro/Grade, and Rock of Ages).

Editorial Section:
Before I assembled the list, I felt that Europe was offering more games that I was interested in. After assembling the list, I feel that way even more.

The important thing to remember is that everybody's opinion of a certain game is different, and everyone is going to value each game differently. That being said, I'd say the European PS+ program has taken a far more mainstream approach in their selection of games than the US has, and that is probably why the majority of people feel like the European selection is far better.

The US has clearly focused on providing more PSN games whereas Europe has focused more on full retail titles. Unlike the majority of posters on the PS Blog, I personally prefer getting PSN games to full retail games through PS+ because most of Europe's full retail games can be easily acquired for $5-$10 at this point. The problem is that a lot of the PSN games the US program has made available are quite old, and I've picked them up before during previous sales. That being said, I was happy to get games like NFL Blitz, Walking Dead, Choplifter HD, and Gotham City Imposters. However, I feel like the Europe PS+ program has done a better job in this area, too, making games like Hell Yeah!, Retro/Grade, and Mancharium free on Day 1. The US hasn't had a *unique* day 1 freebie since the Instant Game Collection started in June.

The US PS+ program also seems to be targeting niche genres more than Europe. NFL Blitz is only going to appeal to sports games fans, and King of Fighters XIII is a fighting game that is only going to appeal to a very limited audience. Even games like Payday and Gotham City Imposters are only going to appeal to those who enjoy playing multiplayer shooters. Europe's games like Darksiders, Oddworld, Deus Ex, Dead Space 2, Red Dead Redemption, Bulletstorm, and even Resident Evil 5 are all more focused on single player action in either a 1st or 3rd person action-adventure genre.

I'm glad I put this list together for myself, because it helps me understand where all the complainers are coming from. I'm not saying I condone the type of whining going on at places like the PS Blog, I'm one who believes in honest but polite criticism. PS+ is still an amazing value no matter which region your subscribed to, and I still feel like most of the whining about the US version of the program is childish and uncalled for.

But now I better understand that Europe's focus on more mainstream games seems to be garnering it far more praise from PS+ members than the US's focus on niche and PSN titles.

Any other PS+ subscribers here? What do you guys think?

(Also, sorry for making this post so long. I'm a firm believer in "brevity is...wit")

EDIT: Please note that I forgot to mention at least 2 PSOne Classics and 1 Mini that US PS+ received. I have no clue if these were also made available on the European PS+ Program. - Thanks Josh1Billion

Also, I guess I glossed over this, but I obviously didn't mention anything about the the 12 games that both regions received. This blog post was about comparing the 2 regions, and the 12 games that both regions received canceled each other out and therefore didn't require further mention.
Good analysis. I would prefer the balance of retail vs psn games that Europe got instead, but that's me personally. I also think they have more constraints with trade partners and more people in the approval chain that prevents the more AAA titles from being offered in the US, I've seen that referenced in articles on the matter but I don't have any links. I'm sure there are other cultural/business/economic reasons for regional differentiation as well that the average consumer is completely unaware of, nor probably cares about.
After deliberating, I think I'd rather have the Instant Game Collection's focus on PSN titles as opposed to retail games. There are plenty of avenues on obtaining retail games cheap, but only Sony control's the prices on PSN games. That being said, It would be nice if they did supply use with some more AAA titles.

Rock of Ages was free for PS+ users, but that was before June so your point still stands.
I much rather get free PSN games. I can get those retail games for $10-20 and I don't have to clog up my hard drive.
@Bosamba - Yeah I remember getting Rock of Ages for free, I originally had it on my US list as well, but then looked it up and we got it in May, so like you say, it doesn't count for this list.
Not sure if you're restricting this list to "PS3" titles (i.e., excluding PS1 classics and minis), but if not, there are a few missing. Hot Shots Golf 2 (PS1 classic) was given out in the U.S. recently-- I think in July or August-- and there have been several minis recently too (such as Ronnie O'Sullivan's Snooker).

Looking at the lists, I think I like the U.S. list a little better.
I'd take the U.S. one, but I'll echo that I'd take PSN only games over retail copies. Nearly every free retail game I could grab a physical copy for around $10 and not have 30 Gigs occupied on my drive, plus I've been burned too often buying PSN games at discounts (Looking at you, Payday) to see them become free. It's why I held off on almost everything on the Halloween sale.
@Josh - You're right. I forgot to include Minis and PsONE Classics. We did get 2 PSOne games and at least 1 Mini since June. I have no idea what Europe got, I tried my best to sift through their blog but it doesn't sort things quite as well as the US blog does.
I'd have to agree with what the others are saying. I like getting the PSN games because I can find retail games on sale, and I don't necessarily have time to play all those games with my backlog. I have seen a bunch of people complaining on this topic, but looking at the breakdown, I think the US list is good.
Maybe we all like PSN games more because we're savvy shoppers, and we know how to be patient and get retail games super cheap. (I was able to get DS2 for $5 from Best Buy and it included Extraction, Bulletstorm was $5 as well when I bought it).

Most the complainers on the PS Blog and elsewhere probably don't come anywhere close to "CAG"-level shopping abilities, therefore they value the retail games so much. They'd probably shop at places like Kmart and Walmart where games rarely drop below $20.
I think that most people see the amount of content of a full retail game vs the PSN games and it makes it seem like that much of a raw deal. It's hard to look at many of the games we get around the same time and not think that EU is getting the better end of the deal. I don't think people would have issues with the content if they didn't have another region's service to compare it to although I suppose that goes without saying.

This is highly subjective but I would prefer that we got PSN games if they gave us decent PSN games. There have been few that I actually enjoyed and it seems like they purposely will give a day one game from time to time just to be like "hey guys look we did this, you're welcome!". It seems like more often than not they give us games that aren't selling anymore or the games that are selling DLC that they know people wouldn't buy in any decent amount if they weren't giving the base game away for free.
I'd much rather have PSN games then full retail games. With full retail games I can buy it on disc, beat it, and sell it. This costs me little to no money (often I make a profit). Anything that is only available as a download will cost me at least $5-$10 to play it at all.
It's nice to have lists like this all laid out to see.

Back at E3 I was wow'd at the IGC and shocked that they would add, and continue to add, retail games. I've since changed my view, because it ruined all the other PS+ content we used to get. I miss free PS1 Classics, I miss 4-7 free PSN games a month. With the addition of retail games, that's when I started to get free content I already had, for $5-10 cheap. We aren't talking about new release retail games here.

Looking to the future, my 700gb HDD will not like all the retail games. I would rather just have on disc, for cheap. And prefer having PS+ give out PSN titles weekly, and maybe 1 Day 1 release a month.

Still, considering what PS+ offers at full price/year (I didn't pay full price) it's still a good deal and miles ahead of what LIVE offers, ahem, forces you to pay.
^I'm pretty sure this is what you meant, but just to clarify, we never got 4-7 PSN games a month. We got 1-2 PSN games, 1-3 Minis, and 1-3 PS One Classics.
Can I vote for neither? I want none of the free games from either side. Any one I had any mild interest in, I already got on my own. The rest I don't care one way or the other.
really pisses me off that its region specific.

id buy one piece if it was on sale in eu,