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Hi everyone!

Zen Davis and I are leading up the CAG Secret Santa project. At this moment we need to come to a consensus on how this should work, so you're not signing up yet, just offering suggestions. Here's my rough, initial ideas.

All of this is subject to Nintendo getting this system online before Christmas.

Participants must meet the following requirements:
1) Have been a member on CAG since March 2006 or earlier OR have an iTrader rating of 15 or better with no negatives or neutrals*
2) Have a Wii, connected to the internet, and be willing to share system codes with other CAGs.
3) Sign up by the deadline, November 15, 2007
 4) Games must be gifted by TBD(depends on when Nintendo gets this up and running--our deadline will liekly be before Christmas though)
5) Must not be a dip. I.e., don't get people crappy games unless they really want them, remember to thank your Secret Santa, etc.
6) We reserve the right to prevent anyone from participating in this activity at our discretion. Be nice and you should be good. ;)

*exceptions to this rule will be considered on a case-by-case basis. PM myself and Zen Davis for exception consideration. Feel free to bring eBay or other feedback, or have other CAG members vouch for you. Even if you have nothing other than your word for us to consider, give us a PM.

General rules for the Secret Santa project:
A) Zen and I will pair up everyone. We work as a team so neither one of us assigns ourselves. You'll receive a PM when your secret Santa mate is selected. When you've sent your gift, send with Zen or I (whoever sent you the PM first) a note to let us know it was sent.
B) Aim for between 1000 and 1600 points spent.
C) Take a look at reviews and general consensus on games. Don't give complete crap. No one wants Donkey Kong Jr. Math.
D) Whatever rules and stipulations Nintendo may put into place on these transfers. My guess is that Someone from America can't gift to someone in Japan or Europe, but we'll see.

Rules for signing up!
Read the rules again. They've been tweaked since you last read them. Make sure you'll comply. Make a post in this thread with just this information, laid about very specifcally. Follow each line with a return and don't break anything else up. This will allow for the easiest record keeping on our end. If you post incorrectly, you will not be registered. Your post should be as follows:

CAG User Name
Wii Code with dashes ever 4 numbers
Genres (NOT Games) enjoyed*
Genres (NOT Games) disliked*

The ones with * after them are optional. If you want to just make it a free-for-all (as I think I will), leave any or all of them blank. Nintendo won't let you buy a game for a person they already own.

DO NOT prephase your information with a title (i.e., DON'T say "CAG User Name: daroga" jsut type "daroga" on the first line) Clear? As mud I'm sure. A sample post would be as follows:

daroga
0000-1111-2222-3333
Platformers, RPGs, Puzzles
Racing, Fighting

You cannot register if you do not meet the qualifications of Rules #1. If you don't meet them but want to participate, PM both Zen Davie and myself on the same PM with your request and anything that might help us approve you (feedback from other sites, another CAG member's rep, how much you love us, whatever ;) ).


Approved Secret Santa Members: (if you're not here, you're not on the list yet)
botticus
jlseal
lilboo
MusicNoteLess
MarioColbert
Whambamm
Strell
lebowsky
Panasonic
magiic
Foo228
Rocko
foltzie
yukine
JJSP
crystalklear64
Purple Flames
mbartholow
Super Maio Fan
Hero101
rodeojones903
lordwow
Doomed
fullmetalfan720
banpeikun
Zen Davis
plumberboy
Autumn Star
chakan
vlv723
SpazX
Callandor
katzd2007
munch
Tybee
TravelSized
StarKnightX
siamesellama
natureboy46
Logain8955
brucewayne
extzed
Ski Hawk
 
Do we know that the new buy for someone else feature will make it out in time for the holidays already? I thought it was just announced.
 
[quote name='Rocko']Is the limit supposed to be 1600, or are you thinking in XBLA points? 1600 is a rather odd number.[/quote]I was thinking 2 16-bit games, or an N64 + NES/TG-16, or 3 NES games, etc. So yeah, 1600 was my thought. Open for discussion though :)

[quote name='CouRageouS']Do we know that the new buy for someone else feature will make it out in time for the holidays already? I thought it was just announced.[/quote]It's possible it won't, but it sounds like it's pretty much designed for this Christmas season.
 
[quote name='zerowing']aww my measly 2 iTrader rating won't make the cut (unless I get exemption of course)[/quote]

Daroga,
I too would fall into this boat, as I've never used iTrader but have great eBay feedback and really would like to hook up a CAG with a cool Xmas VC gift.

Love secret santa!
 
This is awesome. Count me in. I'd love to buy someone the wonderful game that is Paper Mario. Maybe even MK64. Or StarFox 64.

Hell, maybe by this point Super Mario Bros 3! :)

Actually the Adventures of Lolo would make a pretty neat gift as well!
Oh this is too much fun!

 
As I said before, I'm in.

I agree that we should have a certain date for when we close entry on this thing because eventually more and more people may want in and it can get overwhelming. This of course all dependent on when Nintendo decides to throw this service up and so for all things to be considered, we should consider that Nintendo may not have this online for us by Christmas and thus it can all be a bust.

I think everyone who is interested should make a list of all the VC Games they own so that a game isn't sent to someone who already owns it. We should alsp have a quality of standard set up so that a game below a certain rating should not be considered for this Secret Santa project (such using IGN ratings as a standard and that all games under a 7.0 should be barred from being sent as presents).

On the other hand we could also draft a list of games that we all consider okay to send to another person should they not meet the earlier 7.0 guidelines. For example some people may think that Streets of Rage (6.5), Ice Climbers(6.5), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles(5.5), and Golden Axe (6.5) deserve to be included on the list and we could have a discussion on that if we decide to build a list instead.

I don't know what you guys would want to use as a standard but this should be open to discussion.

The VC Games I own -

Bomberman '93
Sin and Punishment
Donkey Kong Country 2
Ninja Gaiden
Contra 3: The Alien Wars
Paper Mario 64

I also think that for the people who don't meet the feedback requirement that wish to be included in this, something may be worked out. If a person who doesn't meet the feedback criteria is willing to send first, similar to the normal trade procedures on CAG (lower feedback sends first), they should be allowed to be included in this. However the last thing I want is someone getting screwed over on something that the CAG community is building out of goodwill to one another so I would like this to also be discussed.
 
Definitely sounds like a good idea. Hopefully Super Mario RPG is out by then. Everyone should experience that. Or Kirby Super Star. Hell, both.
 
I don't trade much, but I've been around a long time. I'd like to participate with daroga's allowing.
 
I'm not a big fan of request lists since I find they kill a lot of the surprise of the entire thing. Anyway is a list of all the Virtual Console games and their IGN scores.

108 Games. Debate away.

For the record, I included Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle because of the nostalgia factor. That and it's so bad, it's good. If there's ever a game you will hate and continue to keep on playing again and again and again, it's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's that good.

Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 10

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=rzhw_jxWJoU[/media]
Super Metroid 9.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=gPPivzM46x8[/media]
Kirby's Adventure 9.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WhPGQ4DMnVo[/media]
Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 9.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=UGAlDGYzI3I[/media]
Sin & Punishment 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=9t7VyMC6_Hw[/media]
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=mq50GliP-sE[/media]
Wave Race 64 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=UB9YFmENdAM[/media]
Paper Mario 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZSkUTWZyeA[/media]
Ninja Gaiden 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_rkaiKYEkDQ[/media]
Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_1U0rHj5_h4[/media]
Super Mario Bros. 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=8do9GUaxFFs[/media]
Legend of Zelda 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=HoXb7PIJYmA[/media]
Super Mario 64 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zw_o5HsK2D8[/media]
Gunstar Heroes 9.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=PFDkm2sJGt4[/media]
Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest 8.8

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=VAG-zUULQgw[/media]
Ninja Gaiden II: The Dark Sword of Chaos 8.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=fJoTC9argLU[/media]
Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels 8.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=QmjFVCBM3nM[/media]
Shining Force 8.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=is_wnkZ_IK0[/media]
Super Mario Bros. 2 8.5

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=mMFdeYwPEQQ[/media]
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 8.5
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link 8.5
Streets of Rage 2 8.5
Legend of the Mystical Ninja 8.5
Gradius III 8.5
Star Fox 64 8.5
Donkey Kong Country 8.5
Super Mario World 8.5
Bomberman '93 8.5
Excitebike 8.4
R-Type III 8.3
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master 8.0
Streets of Rage 3 8.0
Breath of Fire II 8.0
Metroid 8.0
Adventures of Lolo 8.0
Galaga '90 8.0
Air Zonk 8.0
Blazing Lazers 8.0

Ninja Spirit 8.0

[MEDIA]http://youtube.com/watch?v=IaRo6F_aac0[/MEDIA]

Final Fight 8.0
Wonder Boy in Monster World 8.0

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=CXQN0HwUfdY[/media]
Beyond Oasis 8.0
Super Ghouls 'N Ghosts 8.0
Contra III: The Alien Wars 8.0
Sonic the Hedgehog 8.0
Super Castlevania IV 8.0
Wario's Woods 8.0
Bonk's Adventure 8.0
Ristar 8.0
Bonk's Revenge 7.9
Mario Kart 64 7.9
Romance of the Three Kingdoms IV: Wall of Fire 7.7
Soldier Blade 7.7
Bonk III: Bonk's Big Adventure 7.5
Neutopia II Adventure 7.5
Kirby's Avalanche 7.5
Ghouls 'N Ghosts 7.5

Landstalker: The Treasures of King Nole 7.5

[MEDIA]http://youtube.com/watch?v=_UHm7kdeOv0[/MEDIA]

Neutopia 7.5
Super C 7.5
Dynamite Headdy 7.5
Kirby's Dream Course 7.5
Devil's Crush Pinball 7.5
Street Fighter II Turbo 7.5
NES Open Tournament Golf 7.5
ActRaiser 7.5
Castlevania 7.5
Galaga 7.5
Dragon's Curse 7.5
Sonic Spinball 7.5
Comix Zone 7.5
Military Madness 7.5
Gain Ground 7.5
F-Zero 7.5
R-Type 7.5
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine 7.5
Super Star Soldier 7.5
SimCity 7.5
Fatal Fury 7.0
Shining in the Darkness 7.0
Ecco: The Tides of Time 7.0
Dragon Spirit 7.0
F-Zero X 7.0
ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron 7.0
Ordyne 7.0
Tecmo Bowl 7.0
Kid Icarus 7.0
Chew-Man-Fu 7.0
ToeJam & Earl 7.0
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior 7.0
Gradius 7.0
Ecco the Dolphin 7.0
Ice Hockey 7.0
Alien Crush 7.0
Columns 7.0
Legend of Hero Tonma 6.5
Kid Chameleon 6.5
Golden Axe II 6.5
Battle Lode Runner 6.5
Ice Climber 6.5
Streets of Rage 6.5
Vigilante 6.5
Golden Axe 6.5
Victory Run 6.5
Lunar Pool 6.0
World Heroes 6.0
Yoshi's Story 6.0
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 5.5
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[quote name='JJSP']I'm down for joining, but I don't have much as far as iTrader goes. If we can work something out, I'm in.[/quote]
Same here. I'm only 2 ratings shy of being eligible.
 
Well, both my join date and my zero iTrader activity exclude me from this project. Oh well, no big deal.

But I do have a suggestion: have people who sign up state the approximate Wii Points value of the gift they plan on giving--800 Wii Point Game, 1500 Wii Points of Games, etc. Then you can match people up based on how many Wii points they stated: 1500 point gifter to another 1500 point giver, and so on. That way, people are getting (roughly) the same value of games that they're giving, and no one gets disappointed when they give someone 2000 points of stuff and they receive 500 from someone else.

Edit: That's just my suggestion, however. It would make things slightly less Secret Santa-ish, but it would probably still be fun.
 
I vote that this be the official logo:

santaWii.jpg


If you love me, you'll know exactly how to second this.
 
I'd be interested. think the ratings of game is a good idea would hate to be gifted a crappy present. Then there is the fact that a lot of those games I wouldn't download for myself so would be kind of nice surprise to see what someone else enjoys and gifts me with.
 
[quote name='Strell']I vote that this be the official logo:

santaWii.jpg


If you love me, you'll know exactly how to second this.[/QUOTE]

:joystick: ..? bwahaha!

But anyway back on topic. I am all for this like I said before and I like the idea of rules (such as being a member for so long, having a certain amount of iTrader, ETC). The list of games you have is very helpful and NOT putting requests is a good thing, as it will kill the surprise...

HOWEVER.
I think we should be required to make some kind of "Don't" list. I mean, I know it sounds kinda picky..but you gotta remember something...there are reasons on why you downloaded the games you downloaded...and reasons on WHY you DIDN'T download the ones you didn't.

I may not have THE suggestion, but I really think someone should work a fair way of letting us say certain games we don't have and WOULDN'T be interested in. I don't have OoT. Many many people love that game and think everyone should play it. I've had it for N64. I enjoyed it, but I have no intention on ever playing it again. So if someone gave this to me.. it really wouldn't be all that exciting for me :cry:

I don't think we should make a huge list of games we are NOT interested in..but we should def. be able to make certain "Please don't"'s. Even if it's like "I don't like RPGs & racing games"

I hope other people agree with what I'm saying.
 
[quote name='Strell']I vote that this be the official logo:

santaWii.jpg


If you love me, you'll know exactly how to second this.[/quote]

BWA?
 
Good idea (although my iTrader rating keeps me out). The only thing I'd recommend is waiting to see when/if Nintendo goes live with the service and see what kinds of restrictions are on it.
 
[quote name='lilboo']HOWEVER.

I think we should be required to make some kind of "Don't" list. I mean, I know it sounds kinda picky..but you gotta remember something...there are reasons on why you downloaded the games you downloaded...and reasons on WHY you DIDN'T download the ones you didn't.

I may not have THE suggestion, but I really think someone should work a fair way of letting us say certain games we don't have and WOULDN'T be interested in. I don't have OoT. Many many people love that game and think everyone should play it. I've had it for N64. I enjoyed it, but I have no intention on ever playing it again. So if someone gave this to me.. it really wouldn't be all that exciting for me :cry:

I don't think we should make a huge list of games we are NOT interested in..but we should def. be able to make certain "Please don't"'s. Even if it's like "I don't like RPGs & racing games"

I hope other people agree with what I'm saying.[/quote]
Perhaps, along the list of games you already own on the VC, you could provide a list of games you've already played/beaten if you don't want to receive those games. However my fear is that people will get too picky and convolute the entire process of which game is kosher and which isn't.

[quote name='UncleBob']Good idea (although my iTrader rating keeps me out). The only thing I'd recommend is waiting to see when/if Nintendo goes live with the service and see what kinds of restrictions are on it.[/quote]
As I posted before, I also think that for the people who don't meet the feedback requirement that wish to be included in this, something may be worked out. If a person who doesn't meet the feedback criteria is willing to send first, similar to the normal trade procedures on CAG (lower feedback sends first), they should be allowed to be included in this. However the last thing I want is someone getting screwed over on something that the CAG community is building out of goodwill to one another so I would like this to also be discussed.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']Perhaps, along the list of games you already own on the VC, you could provide a list of games you've already played/beaten if you don't want to receive those games. However my fear is that people will get too picky and convolute the entire process of which game is kosher and which isn't.[/QUOTE]

Well that's why there should be some sort of rules about the "Don't" list. Once there rules & stipulations are set..and people don't follow, well they can't participate.

But there really needs to be some kind of "Don't" list involved..just to make sure people can be actually thankful. I know that sounds kinda greedy or selfish..but it's hard to thank someone for something when you hate what you get...:lol:
 
I'd like to participate, but my feedback rating is nil (I haven't participated in any trading).

It's an awesome idea, and I certainly wouldn't mind sending first just to participate on this cool idea.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Well that's why there should be some sort of rules about the "Don't" list. Once there rules & stipulations are set..and people don't follow, well they can't participate.

But there really needs to be some kind of "Don't" list involved..just to make sure people can be actually thankful. I know that sounds kinda greedy or selfish..but it's hard to thank someone for something when you hate what you get...:lol:[/quote]
It's hard to respond to something like this without seeming arrogant but the old saying, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth", is especially true here. I think people should accept that they may not get something they love, because lets be frank, if they loved something that much they would have picked it up already.

My basic notion of this, and Daroga and others may disagree, is that we're doing this out of good will, surprise, fun, and a thanks to community and not necessarily to land games. I could end up with something I hate but as long as the person had good intentions in sending it to me, I will appreciate the thought. This is also something that should be up for discussion.

Overall I like to think of this as a little experiment in the CAG Wii community and I have high hopes that it'll all turn out well. I'd like to see discussion on which games should be removed from the overall list before moving to the personal likes and dislikes of specific posters.
 
I haven't really read what everyone is writing, but seeing as how there's a discussion, I figure the situation wouldn't be "buy any game for the person."

You'd have to include a list of what you already have and a list of what you'd prefer. Maybe even include games from different price levels. So you pick 1-2 N64 games, 2 Genesis/TG16 games, 2 SNES games, 2 NES games, etc. Then just let your Secret Santa sort out the rest. If they choose to get you an NES game and you got them an N64 game, well, that's just the breaks.

I don't think it's necessarily wrong to suggest people shouldn't buy you NES Pinball, especially when we're all gamers on a budget and - most likely - running low on system space anyway.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']It's hard to respond to something like this without seeming arrogant but the old saying, "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth", is especially true here. I think people should accept that they may not get something they love, because lets be frank, if they loved something that much they would have picked it up already.

My basic notion of this, and Daroga and others may disagree, is that we're doing this out of good will, surprise, fun, and a thanks to community and not necessarily to land games. I could end up with something I hate but as long as the person had good intentions in sending it to me, I will appreciate the thought. This is also something that should be up for discussion.

Overall I like to think of this as a little experiment in the CAG Wii community and I have high hopes that it'll all turn out well. I'd like to see discussion on which games should be removed from the overall list before moving to the personal likes and dislikes of specific posters. [/QUOTE]

That's what I like about this the most, is that if I like a particular game, I've more than likely already picked it up. This will give me the opportunity for a surprise, and to give me the chance to play something that I may have never considered in the first place.

I don't think it's necessarily wrong to suggest people shouldn't buy you NES Pinball, especially when we're all gamers on a budget and - most likely - running low on system space anyway.
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Well, that's the whole point of the ranking system I hope. Hopefully a game like NES Pinball won't end up on the list.
 
[quote name='Strell']You'd have to include a list of what you already have and a list of what you'd prefer. Maybe even include games from different price levels. So you pick 1-2 N64 games, 2 Genesis/TG16 games, 2 SNES games, 2 NES games, etc. Then just let your Secret Santa sort out the rest. If they choose to get you an NES game and you got them an N64 game, well, that's just the breaks.[/quote]
I think that in that scenario the person who sent the NES game should be obligated to send a second game to try and get close to matching costs.

Lets say I send someone Sin and Punishment. 1200 Points. Well they ought to send me back 2 NES games to get as close to the costs I incurred. I think that would be fair to me.
 
[quote name='BlueLobstah']That's what I like about this the most, is that if I like a particular game, I've more than likely already picked it up. This will give me the opportunity for a surprise, and to give me the chance to play something that I may have never considered in the first place.
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Yes, but what about games you have played in the past and did not like and had no intentions on ever playing again?

There's a lot of games out there currently on the VC that I don't have simply because I never played them back in the day. That's a good portion of the TG16 games. But since I never played them.. I'm reluctant to drop points on them and hate them. Now as a gift, that's different.

But there are certain games we just don't want & I don't think it's wrong to ask people not to get you a few certain games...or a certain genre.

Ya know. Maybe I'm wording myself wrong.
I know this isn't about landing games and you should just be thankful to get something.
But as a gift giver, wouldn't YOU want to make sure you got something they liked? It's a mix of your personal taste + knowing what they like and dislike.

By the list of games they have, it should say what of games they seem to like.
Then you look at a "don't" list of games or type of games they don't like nor would be interested in.
And you then try and make the best choice of game(s) to get this person.

Maybe if I worded myself as about GIVING the gift, it wouldn't of looked so selfish.
I hope this clears it up a bit.
 
Ya know. Maybe I'm wording myself wrong.
I know this isn't about landing games and you should just be thankful to get something.
But as a gift giver, wouldn't YOU want to make sure you got something they liked? It's a mix of your personal taste + knowing what they like and dislike.

By the list of games they have, it should say what of games they seem to like.
Then you look at a "don't" list of games or type of games they don't like nor would be interested in.
And you then try and make the best choice of game(s) to get this person.

Maybe if I worded myself as about GIVING the gift, it wouldn't of looked so selfish.
I hope this clears it up a bit.
 
[quote name='lilboo']Ya know. Maybe I'm wording myself wrong.
I know this isn't about landing games and you should just be thankful to get something. But as a gift giver, wouldn't YOU want to make sure you got something they liked? It's a mix of your personal taste + knowing what they like and dislike.[/quote]
If someone doesn't like the gift I give them, I hope they just appreciate the thought. I'm really not going to sweat it though. I think the experiencing of doing something like this is going to be more satisfying than the games themselves. The gift of giving and all that.

By the list of games they have, it should say what of games they seem to like. Then you look at a "don't" list of games or type of games they don't like nor would be interested in. And you then try and make the best choice of game(s) to get this person.

Maybe if I worded myself as about GIVING the gift, it wouldn't of looked so selfish.
I hope this clears it up a bit.
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I don't think it looks selfish but I also don't think you like to necessarily be surprised either. It's just an observation. You seem to like to let everyone know what you want so that no one is let down on either end. There's nothing wrong with that.

I just think approach to this kills the entire surprise aspect of the thing. Regardless of whether you play the games you get or not, at least you have something new in your Wii dashboard, and as long as the person had a genuine desire to not send you a piece of garbage, why worry about it? That's just my take on it.

An
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']I just think approach to this kills the entire surprise aspect of the thing. Regardless of whether you play the games you get or not, at least you have something new in your Wii dashboard, and as long as the person had a genuine desire to not send you a piece of garbage, why worry about it? That's just my take on it.
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I just think that the game i get for someone, I want them to enjoy it! I want them to like it and truly be thankful for the game.. not for the concept that I gave them something.

I
 
[quote name='lilboo']I just think that the game i get for someone, I want them to enjoy it! I want them to like it and truly be thankful for the game.. not for the concept that I gave them something.

I
 
Perhaps we can decide a certain number of games to pull from the list and then tally up everyones votes. The ones with the most votes can be pulled from the list. What do you think? Would 35 be a good number?

Here are the games I think should be pulled from the list.
Super Mario Bros. 9.0
Super Mario 64 9.0
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 8.5
Gradius III 8.5
Super Mario World 8.5
Excitebike 8.4
R-Type III 8.3
Galaga '90 8.0
Blazing Lazers 8.0
Final Fight 8.0
Sonic the Hedgehog 8.0
Bonk's Revenge 7.9
Soldier Blade 7.7
Bonk III: Bonk's Big Adventure 7.5
Ghouls 'N Ghosts 7.5
Devil's Crush Pinball 7.5
NES Open Tournament Golf 7.5
Galaga 7.5
Sonic Spinball 7.5
F-Zero 7.5
R-Type 7.5
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine 7.5
Super Star Soldier 7.5
Dragon Spirit 7.0
Ordyne 7.0
Tecmo Bowl 7.0
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior 7.0
Gradius 7.0
Ice Hockey 7.0
Alien Crush 7.0
Legend of Hero Tonma 6.5
Battle Lode Runner 6.5
Vigilante 6.5
Victory Run 6.5
Lunar Pool 6.0
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I'm for "don't" lists. I [providing I get an exeption (doubtful)] wouldn't want any NES games from Animal Crossing, because through the magic of the internet I have all of them. But I think don't lists should be limited to already downloaded(I'm guessing Nintendo has us covered for this) and games we already own some other way. (For me, Metroid, SMB 1, 2, 3, and a bunch of others as well)

But want lists go against what this is all about. Wouldn't it be awesome if Nintendo let us gift downloaded games from one console to another? (I think XBL lets you do this)

(This isn't gonna happen, but I can dream)^^
 
I don't have an iTrader listing for any. If you care to make an exception in my case, I'd like to be part of this.

If you must ask me about why I don't trade, ask me in a PM.
 
[quote name='Strell']I vote that this be the official logo:

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If you love me, you'll know exactly how to second this.[/QUOTE]

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On topic, its a way to get someone into a lesser known games that are gems that they would never pick up otherwise. I know I got Lolo from a reccomendation from a friend and I have enjoyed every second of it. It would give me a chance to pass out Comix Zone to someone that otherwise would have overlooked it. And I love it just for this, someone is bound to surprise me with a game I overlooked before.
 
I simply took this to heart as a CAG community endeavor where we gave each other games. Nothing more complex than that. We would draw up a main list of games that were kosher - with the slight exception of games already owned by others - and we would send them to each other as a surprise, wish each other a Merry Christmas, and that's all there would be to it. Delighted thoughts for all.

Starting "Want Lists" and "Do Not Want Lists" on the other hand is an overly complex process and destroys the spirit of what I feel this should be. Others may disagree and I'm cool with that because as far as I'm concerned, this a community effort, and if the community wants to setup "Want Lists" and "Do Not Want Lists", so be it. But I feel a general hands-off approach to the SSP (Secret Santa Project) is way the it should be done.

It's not about what you get. It's about what you give. I know that may be sentimental tripe to some of you but that's my honest to God feeling on this.
 
Like I said, I think there should only be don't lists and it should be limited to already owned games and crappy games per votes of the community.
 
[quote name='Zen Davis']It's not about what you get. It's about what you give.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

And that's exactly why we need to have an idea of what people have and what they don't like. So the gift giver can give a much better gift, rather then "Oh I think you'll like ____"

I would never buy something based off of what I think they would like. If I were to buy a friend a giftcard for Christmas..and she likes to wear makeup. Well, if she really only buys MAC makeup, why would I go and get her a giftcard to Victoria's Secret Beauty..?

It's not like she ASKED for it, but I know it's something she would like and it's something she would use.
 
Wow, a lot of talk here. Good deal. :)

First of all, those rules are not final, so if you think any of them should be changed, let me know. (Zen, what do you think about them as I drafted them?)

Secondly, we will provide lists of games we already own. Through that list, you might get an idea of the types of games your person enjoys. As a gift giver, I certainly want to get someone something they'll like and enjoy. I think setting up genre do's and don'ts would be good. If there's a assumed AAA title that you don't care for (say, if you don't like Ocarina of Time), I'd maybe just include that in "games I own" so it doesn't sound as pretentious and you don't get people buying it for you because you need to like the same things they do (not that that ever happens on the Internet or especially on CAG, but you know... ;) ).

There will be exceptions made to those who don't meet requirements, but it will be to the sole discretion of Zen and myself.

I don't think limiting a list based on review scores is a viable way to go. I think most of us understand what games are absolute crap. At the same time, I'd hope we're not all so petty as to say "BUT I SPENT XXXX points and only got XX points back!" This is a gift folks. You don't give it to get something in return, you give it to make someone else happy. :)

Anyway, yes. Any thoughts on how the rules might be revised?
 
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