Karl Rove Ignores Subpoena, Refused to Testify before House Subcommittee

[quote name='RAMSTORIA']in a perfect world hed be sitting in a jail cell for contempt until he testified, but its bush's world.[/quote]

Until November.

You have to wonder (for a second) if this helps McCain or Obama.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Until November.

You have to wonder (for a second) if this helps McCain or Obama.[/QUOTE]

i dont think it helps anyone... i would say it hurts mccain, because of the segment of people who like to say mccain is bush's "third term", but while typing that i realized those people werent going to vote for mccain anyway. so i dont think its relevant to either candidate.
 
Read about this today in our local paper (Birmingham News).

Sorry, but being a politician doesn't make you above the law, rather you should be held in a higher regard to the law.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Interesting.

Does that mean some of the people in Congress aren't part of the vast conspiracy to keep people down or Rove doesn't want to be a fall guy to distract people from their oppression?[/quote]

here, i made this for you. it'll explain
(btw, this is my first attempt at making a video & putting it on youtube)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcgrLiCDvFc
 
Didn't George Bush sign a law into effect where all his goon squad members get lifetime immunity from questioning? Where they can legally refuse to show up?
 
[quote name='crunchb3rry']Didn't George Bush sign a law into effect where all his goon squad members get lifetime immunity from questioning? Where they can legally refuse to show up?[/quote]

I'm not too sure, i think it's called Executive Privilege.
 
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-...07/30/AR2008073000286.html?hpid=moreheadlines

House panel voted to cite Rove for contempt over this. It's just a recommendation and apparently will be up to Pelosi on whether or not to allow a full vote on the house floor.

As for the law question, I don't think there is any law that has been passed--they've simply argued that all Bush's cabinet etc. should have executive priviledge as the president has right to private counsel. It's one of the way's they've tried to push the power of the executive branch.
 
[quote name='level1online']I'm not too sure, i think it's called Executive Privilege.[/QUOTE]

Executive Privilege is not absolute.
 
I think Executive Privilege was around before Bush, if I'm not mistaken. But that it really applied only to people actively working for the President. Bush abuses it so that people that are essentially "retired" cannot be called in to be questioned for the duration of their natural lives.

I think that's why all the tell-all books come out. So these guys can come clean in the court of public opinion rather than be considered shady for the rest of their lives because they can't be called in to be questioned (even if they want to) after the President tells the concerned party to legally go fuck themselves and leave alone.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Neither is Congress' demand to question Rove. :roll:[/QUOTE]

Not his place to judge the scope of their inquiry.

EDIT: Or, more pointedly, if that were the concern there'd be some movement to quash the subpoena on more concrete grounds.
 
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[quote name='Magus8472']Not his place to judge the scope of their inquiry.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's the Supreme Court's.

He thinks he's protected by Executive Privilege and Congress thinks he isn't.
 
We're going to send him this strongly worded letter asking him to make an appointment at his earliest convenience.

If he fails to respond, we'll send a second letter with Signature Confirmation.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']We're going to send him this strongly worded letter asking him to make an appointment at his earliest convenience.

If he fails to respond, we'll send a second letter with Signature Confirmation.[/QUOTE]

Plan C, a press release.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']We're going to send him this strongly worded letter asking him to make an appointment at his earliest convenience.

If he fails to respond, we'll send a second letter with Signature Confirmation.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah. You are referring to the "Democratic Party Foreign Policy" tactic. Cool.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Oh yeah. You are referring to the "Democratic Party Foreign Policy" tactic. Cool.[/quote]

As opposed to "Republican Party Foreign Policy"

"He said what about my father?!?"

 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Oh yeah. You are referring to the "Democratic Party Foreign Policy" tactic. Cool.[/QUOTE]

I seem to recall us actually going into Bosnia under Clinton, where there was *actual* genocide happening, as opposed to ... well, you know.
 
[quote name='camoor']As opposed to "Republican Party Foreign Policy"

"He said what about my father?!?"

[/QUOTE]

I wasn't arguing the Republican tactic was better. They both suck.

Eternal hand slapping trains the world that they don't have to take us serious. And on the other side, nobody wants to see anyone get boo boo's either.

It's very much a no-win situation. One side willing to give endless peaceful chances, the other side willing to punish after the first chance.

[quote name='trq']I seem to recall us actually going into Bosnia under Clinton, where there was *actual* genocide happening, as opposed to ... well, you know.[/QUOTE]

Eh. IMO, the subject of the Bosnian conflict is so complicated and convoluted, with so many more details about genocide exaggeration along with eroding arguments for our involvement there or even being on the right side - At best I'd say it's only better than our involvement in Iraq because of the smaller scale and time frame we were there. But it was still a clusterfuck, imo.

Either way, OT.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Eh. IMO, the subject of the Bosnian conflict is so complicated and convoluted, with so many more details about genocide exaggeration along with eroding arguments for our involvement there or even being on the right side - At best I'd say it's only better than our involvement in Iraq because of the smaller scale and time frame we were there. But it was still a clusterfuck, imo.

Either way, OT.[/QUOTE]

Well ... that's a different thread, as you suggest, and my main point was just that the "Democrats don't go to war" thing is demonstrably untrue, even in our recent (pseudo)memory. But I will say this: there's no denying Srebrenica. Eight thousand civilians dead in a weekend is a pretty good example of the kind of thing one *should* go to war to stop.
 
War for a good reason is one thing, it's just that the definition of a good reason is fucked these days.

Of course, some people would say there's never any justification for war.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Even you foaming-at-the-mouth nuts have to agree, Rove giving the finger to Congress is pretty bad ass. :cool:[/QUOTE]

Watching Liquid and Ruined accuse others of being crazy or deluded is quite a trip.

Do either of you mindless, gormless ninnies have any ounce of self awareness?
 
Found this abit humorous

Last Friday, police in Des Moines, Iowa arrested four people who attempted to make a citizens’ arrest of former top White House aide Karl Rove, who was in town to speak at a GOP fundraiser. A retired minister and three members of the Des Moines Catholic Workers community were cited for trespassing. However, according to a press release, the judge presiding over the case praised their efforts:
[Mona] Shaw was the first called before Polk County Fifth Judicial District Associate Judge William Price.
After entering her plea, the judge asked Shaw, “Mamn, what were you doing at the Wakonda Country Club?”
“I was attempting to make a citizen’s arrest of Karl Rove, your honor,” Shaw answered.
“Well,” the judge looked up and said, “it’s about time.”
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[quote name='homeland']However, according to a press release, the judge presiding over the case praised their efforts[/quote]

WOW! That's amazing to hear! Not only the fact that citizens had the guts to attempt a Citizen's Arrest, but also that the judge praised them for their efforts.

+1 for Freedom & Liberty. :D

-1 for Baby Huey

btw, which reminds me..... best clip ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk-st8fLYCM
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Even you foaming-at-the-mouth nuts have to agree, Rove giving the finger to Congress is pretty bad ass. :cool:[/quote]

Not really. It's basically like standing on one side of the US/Canadian border giving the finger to mounties. Step over that line and your ass is hamburger. Rove will get his.
 
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