Kimbo Slice to be on the Ultimate Fighter

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:hot:Yeah idont know if any one else has heard yet but its been announced that Kimbo Slice is going to be on the new season of the Ulitmate Fighter. For those who dont know who kimbo slice is or what the ultimate fighter is, Basically Kimbo Slice is a overated street fighter who went into mma. And the ultimate fighter is a reality show where 16 people compete for a contract in the UFC.:hot:
 
What sucks is they're going to put a lot of focus on the guy, this is the first season after the past 3 (I think) where they won't have to win a fight to get a spot in the house. They are definitely going to use him for ratings. The current season hasn't been the greatest so I guess they're trying a new gimmick.
 
Well yeah i cant really blame them for useing him for ratings. His fight with james thompson was the most viewed MMA fight in history. So imagine if he makes it to the finale of the ultimate fighter. Spike will probly get more views than it ever has.
 
I wonder if he will get crushed again. It could be pretty interesting, I just hope it's not The Kimbo Show.
 
I'm very interested in seeing how this turns out. Especially since Rashad Evans and Rampage Jackson are hosting.
 
Didn't the owner of the UFC say he could not stand Kimbo but would not stop him from enting into the UFC?

Anyway I hope this guy does not last and gets his ass handed to him. Atleast the UFC would build everything on this guy.
 
[quote name='sendme']Didn't the owner of the UFC say he could not stand Kimbo but would not stop him from enting into the UFC?

Anyway I hope this guy does not last and gets his ass handed to him. Atleast the UFC would build everything on this guy.[/QUOTE]

If it was anyone who said it, it was Dana White, the President of the UFC and 10% owner of Zuffa, the company that owns the UFC. The majority owners are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenzo_FertittaFrank and Lorenzo Fertitta. The Fertitta's don't really talk that much.
 
Well Dana said if Kimbo (if thats his real name WHICH IT IS NOT) wanted to be in the UFC then he should join TUF. He cant be any worse than any of the fighters on this season or last.

Reading the write up on MMAjunkie worries me a little.

"It is likely that Slice won't fight early in the competition so UFC can ensure that he lasts as long as possible as he, along with Rampage Jackson and Rashad Evans as the coaches, will be the show's biggest draws."

So does that mean he wont have to fight to be on the show? Unless this will be another show with already known fighters and no one has to fight to make it to the house that will be unfair.

At least we get to see him get his ass handed to him again:D
 
[quote name='musha666']Well Dana said if Kimbo (if thats his real name WHICH IT IS NOT) wanted to be in the UFC then he should join TUF. He cant be any worse than any of the fighters on this season or last.

Reading the write up on MMAjunkie worries me a little.

"It is likely that Slice won't fight early in the competition so UFC can ensure that he lasts as long as possible as he, along with Rampage Jackson and Rashad Evans as the coaches, will be the show's biggest draws."

So does that mean he wont have to fight to be on the show? Unless this will be another show with already known fighters and no one has to fight to make it to the house that will be unfair.

At least we get to see him get his ass handed to him again:D[/QUOTE]

Basically, what Dana said when asked if Kimbo would ever fight in the UFC is that he would let him be on The Ultimate Fighter. Nobody in MMA feels like Kimbo has done anything to warrant being in a primetime main event, and this was Dana's way of telling him to earn it. I can't believe Kimbo is actually going through with it though. Last I heard, he was going to try boxing. He must really be desperate.

As far as him not having to fight, in the first season of TUF, the fighters could be chosen to fight at any time, thus causing some to fight more than others. A couple guys even coasted through without fighting at all until they were in the semi-finals. I'm guessing that's how they want things for Kimbo.

I can't imagine him having Rashad Evans as a coach though. I could see Rampage, but Rashad is a baby-faced kid, and Kimbo is like the reincarnation of Mr. T, haha. And he's like 35 now. UFC is definitely using him to generate interest...but it's not like Kimbo has had any other offers.
 
I kind of like disagree with the way Kimbo Sice has been treated in the MMA world...I certainly do not like him...But he deserves a chance as it was given one to Brock Lesnar....just my 2 cents.Why was Lesnar given a chance in the UFC, and Kimbo not?I rather have Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC, than any of those 2 fighters!
 
[quote name='hcamacho']I kind of like disagree with the way Kimbo Sice has been treated in the MMA world...I certainly do not like him...But he deserves a chance as it was given one to Brock Lesnar....just my 2 cents.Why was Lesnar given a chance in the UFC, and Kimbo not?I rather have Fedor Emelianenko in the UFC, than any of those 2 fighters![/QUOTE]

Are you kidding me? I'm not even a Lesnar fan, but the guy had AT LEAST proven himself on some level. Sure, he was his name off of fake fighting, but he was an NCAA wrestling national champion. Not to mention a world reknowned entertainer who had made his employer millions of dollars. Dana had nothing to lose giving him a chance. The guy at the very least had the skills to not embarass himself, and he would bring viewers to UFC. It was win/win.

The height of Kimbo's celebrity was being a most viewed video on Youtube. He hadn't proven anything to anybody, and didn't deserve to be considered one of the sport's top athletes (which many thought he was). I think Dana is doing the right thing here. He's giving the guy a shot. His internet videos got his foot in the door. It's up to him where he goes from here. Why should he expect more than that?

Also, no shit about Fedor. He's proven 100% more than either Lesnar or Kimbo. But he's stated no desire to go to the UFC. Until that changes, don't hold your breath.
 
You guys should also read into controversy/investigation of Kimbo's last fight help put EliteXC under. If you watch the his EliteXC fights the refs seemed to always protect him in some strange way. They also told Seth Petruzzi too not take Kimbo to the ground and stand up with him, to which he tumbled over via jab. :whee:

Lesnar is a different story, yes he was slapped into the HW title picture because of his name, but wins over Herring and Couture solidify him. He certainly didn't earn it and he screwed over guys like Kongo and Gonzaga.
 
oh crap i dunno how this flew under my radar... but im watching the Dana White blog from yesterday and Kimbo makes an appearance
 
The last fight he was in just seemed...weird. Like he wasn't trying to move or even do anything. It wasn't like his other fights.
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']You guys should also read into controversy/investigation of Kimbo's last fight help put EliteXC under. If you watch the his EliteXC fights the refs seemed to always protect him in some strange way. They also told Seth Petruzzi too not take Kimbo to the ground and stand up with him, to which he tumbled over via jab. :whee:

.[/QUOTE]

Yea the fight with that Collosus guy (the retard looking fella) was so messed up. Any time Collosus had the advantage the ref would break it up. He was more protected than Bob Sapp was in his K1 fights.

@n8rockerasu, they changed the rules so that it was fair to everyone, and I think it works great now. I would hate to see Kimbo on the TUF finale without winning a fight on the show. If they let him in the house w/o a fight than no one else should need to fight their way on either.

I just hope they let Seth P. back on this season of TUF as well. Give him another chance to knock Kimbo out in 30 seconds:D
 
[quote name='CouRageouS']You guys should also read into controversy/investigation of Kimbo's last fight help put EliteXC under. If you watch the his EliteXC fights the refs seemed to always protect him in some strange way. They also told Seth Petruzzi too not take Kimbo to the ground and stand up with him, to which he tumbled over via jab. :whee:

Lesnar is a different story, yes he was slapped into the HW title picture because of his name, but wins over Herring and Couture solidify him. He certainly didn't earn it and he screwed over guys like Kongo and Gonzaga.[/QUOTE]

I had heard about the thing with Kimbo being the cause of eliteXC going under. That's what happens when a company banks everything on a guy with minimal "real" experience. After barely winning his first fight , then being destroyed in his second , what did they think was going to happen.

With that in mind , as long as the UFC doesn't protect him , give him extra chances or special privlages , and gives him a legit chance to prove he can actually do MMA , I'm willing to give him a shot. I think the whole eliteXC thing was an eye-opening experience for him , and now he really wants to prove himself.

But that's just my thoughts.
 
[quote name='musha666']@n8rockerasu, they changed the rules so that it was fair to everyone, and I think it works great now. I would hate to see Kimbo on the TUF finale without winning a fight on the show. If they let him in the house w/o a fight than no one else should need to fight their way on either.[/QUOTE]

Well, yeah, I know it has changed since season one. But the new problem it created was that you had guys who won their first fight, and knew they were in the semi-finals, who didn't help their teammates train very hard, and were worried about getting hurt. It's a bit of a double edged sword.

All I was thinking with the Kimbo speculation is that they'd want his personality/name on the show as long as possible, so allowing him to slide through could happen. Either way though, I don't feel like it will matter. Kimbo will not beat a trained mixed martial artist. If he doesn't like the fact that everybody is just using him and thinks he's a joke, then prove us wrong.
 
any heavyweight BJJ fighter would destroy him. I doubt he has ground defense since he is just a boxer...a good boxer but that doesn't make you an MMA fighter. Im sure rating for TUF with be up with him on, wish him the best but highly doubt he will advance far.
 
[quote name='naiku']any heavyweight BJJ fighter would destroy him. I doubt he has ground defense since he is just a boxer...a good boxer but that doesn't make you an MMA fighter. Im sure rating for TUF with be up with him on, wish him the best but highly doubt he will advance far.[/QUOTE]

He doesn't have ANY defense...even as a boxer. All of his internet fights were just a matter of overpowering and outslugging the other guy (most of whom tried to use the same sloppy tactic). Anybody with actual martial arts training can take him out. Look at what Petruzelli did. He didn't panic, picked his shot, and hit him on the button. Strength doesn't help much when your nervous system just shut down. Tank Abbott was a brawler too...and one of the worst fighters in UFC history.
 
Kimbo definately won't win the show. But he will draw in a lot of ratings for the UFC. And he will end up with a contract after the show is done. The real question is how long he was last in the UFC. I can't see him beating any of the current heavyweights. He is really just another freakshow. I am surprising he is even in the UFC, he could be making a ton of money in Japan, since the Japanese just love their freaks. He should have been in the Super Hulk tournament!
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']He doesn't have ANY defense...even as a boxer. All of his internet fights were just a matter of overpowering and outslugging the other guy (most of whom tried to use the same sloppy tactic). Anybody with actual martial arts training can take him out. Look at what Petruzelli did. He didn't panic, picked his shot, and hit him on the button. Strength doesn't help much when your nervous system just shut down. Tank Abbott was a brawler too...and one of the worst fighters in UFC history.[/QUOTE]

Good call on Tank Abbott I can still remember when Belfort took him out! I'm not a Kimbo fan but would like to see if he has improved any since the Petruzelli fight.
 
Tank Abbott was not even close to one of the "worst fighters in UFC history." Not even fucking close.

Was he one of the worst higher-level fighters? Yeah, sure. Would he be competitive (even in his prime) in today's UFC? Highly unlikely. But enough of the hyperbole nonsense.
 
I don't even know why I am in since I don't give two sh*ts about UFC, but I thought I'd throw this in: Kimbo Slice vs Jose Canseco anyone?
 
[quote name='KaneRobot']Tank Abbott was not even close to one of the "worst fighters in UFC history." Not even fucking close.

Was he one of the worst higher-level fighters? Yeah, sure. Would he be competitive (even in his prime) in today's UFC? Highly unlikely. But enough of the hyperbole nonsense.[/QUOTE]

Tell me which one of Tank's fights you were particularly impressed by...because I see nothing. He's got a 10-14 career record, with Paul Varelans probably being the toughest opponent he's ever beaten. He didn't even have anything you could call a "dominant stretch". His only win that went longer than 2:51 was a decision against Japanese pro wrestler, and all around fatboy, Yoji Anjo. Tank won his fights the EXACT same way Kimbo has won his. He stormed in, and tried to overwhelm people. If he couldn't outslug them and knock them out in 2 minutes, he'd gas, and then get destroyed.

Yeah, I guess technically there have been worse fighters and guys who never got a win in the UFC. But Tank is most certainly the most overrated fighter ever, and to me, he's the definition of a shitty fighter. The only worthwhile thing Tank ever did in his entire career was discover Tito Ortiz.

Result - Opponent - Decision - Date - Rd - Time
Win - Mike Bourke - KO (Punches) - 2/13/2009 - 1 - 0:29
Loss - Kevin Ferguson - KO (Punches) - 2/16/2008 - 1 - 0:43
Loss - Gary Turner - TKO (Punches) - 4/21/2007 - 1 - 2:31
Loss - Paul Buentello - KO (Punch) - 10/7/2006 - 1 - 0:43
Loss - Hidehiko Yoshida - Submission (Single Wing Choke) - 8/28/2005 - 1 - 7:40
Win - Wesley Correira - KO (Punch) - 5/7/2005 - 1 - 1:23
Loss - Wesley Correira - TKO (Cut) - 11/21/2003 - 1 - 2:14
Loss - Kimo Leopoldo - Submission (Arm Triangle Choke) - 6/6/2003 - 1 - 1:59
Loss - Frank Mir - Submission (Toe Hold) - 2/28/2003 - 1 - 0:46
Loss - Pedro Rizzo - KO - 10/16/1998 - 1 - 8:07
Win - Hugo Duarte - TKO (Strikes) - 5/15/1998 - 1 - 0:43
Win - Yoji Anjo - Decision - 12/21/1997 - 1 - 15:00
Loss - Maurice Smith - Submission (Strikes) - 10/17/1997 - 1 - 8:08
Loss - Vitor Belfort - TKO (Punches) - 5/30/1997 - 1 - 0:52
Loss - Don Frye - Submission (Rear Naked Choke) - 12/7/1996 - 1 - 1:22
Win - Steve Nelmark - KO - 12/7/1996 - 1 - 1:03
Win - Cal Worsham - Submission (Strikes) - 12/7/1996 - 1 - 2:51
Loss - Scott Ferrozzo - Decision - 9/20/1996 - 1 - 15:00
Win - Sam Adkins - Submission (Neck Crank) - 9/20/1996 - 1 - 2:06
Loss - Dan Severn - Decision (Unanimous) - 12/16/1995 - 1 - 18:00
Win - Steve Jennum - Submission (Neck Crank) - 12/16/1995 - 1 - 1:14
Loss - Oleg Taktarov - Submission (Rear Naked Choke) - 7/14/1995 - 1 - 17:45
Win - Paul Varelans - TKO (Strikes) - 7/14/1995 - 1 - 1:53
Win - John Matua - KO - 7/14/1995 - 1 - 0:20
 
[quote name='icp_00_111']My buddy bet me that Kimbo was gonna win it all, he took Kimbo and I got the field. :)[/QUOTE]

So, your friend saw his 1:16 odds...and bet on Kimbo to win...


ROFLMAO

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
[quote name='n8rockerasu']Tell me which one of Tank's fights you were particularly impressed by...because I see nothing. He's got a 10-14 career record, with Paul Varelans probably being the toughest opponent he's ever beaten. He didn't even have anything you could call a "dominant stretch". His only win that went longer than 2:51 was a decision against Japanese pro wrestler, and all around fatboy, Yoji Anjo. Tank won his fights the EXACT same way Kimbo has won his. He stormed in, and tried to overwhelm people. If he couldn't outslug them and knock them out in 2 minutes, he'd gas, and then get destroyed.

Yeah, I guess technically there have been worse fighters and guys who never got a win in the UFC. But Tank is most certainly the most overrated fighter ever, and to me, he's the definition of a shitty fighter. The only worthwhile thing Tank ever did in his entire career was discover Tito Ortiz.

Result - Opponent - Decision - Date - Rd - Time
Win - Mike Bourke - KO (Punches) - 2/13/2009 - 1 - 0:29
Loss - Kevin Ferguson - KO (Punches) - 2/16/2008 - 1 - 0:43
Loss - Gary Turner - TKO (Punches) - 4/21/2007 - 1 - 2:31
Loss - Paul Buentello - KO (Punch) - 10/7/2006 - 1 - 0:43
Loss - Hidehiko Yoshida - Submission (Single Wing Choke) - 8/28/2005 - 1 - 7:40
Win - Wesley Correira - KO (Punch) - 5/7/2005 - 1 - 1:23
Loss - Wesley Correira - TKO (Cut) - 11/21/2003 - 1 - 2:14
Loss - Kimo Leopoldo - Submission (Arm Triangle Choke) - 6/6/2003 - 1 - 1:59
Loss - Frank Mir - Submission (Toe Hold) - 2/28/2003 - 1 - 0:46
Loss - Pedro Rizzo - KO - 10/16/1998 - 1 - 8:07
Win - Hugo Duarte - TKO (Strikes) - 5/15/1998 - 1 - 0:43
Win - Yoji Anjo - Decision - 12/21/1997 - 1 - 15:00
Loss - Maurice Smith - Submission (Strikes) - 10/17/1997 - 1 - 8:08
Loss - Vitor Belfort - TKO (Punches) - 5/30/1997 - 1 - 0:52
Loss - Don Frye - Submission (Rear Naked Choke) - 12/7/1996 - 1 - 1:22
Win - Steve Nelmark - KO - 12/7/1996 - 1 - 1:03
Win - Cal Worsham - Submission (Strikes) - 12/7/1996 - 1 - 2:51
Loss - Scott Ferrozzo - Decision - 9/20/1996 - 1 - 15:00
Win - Sam Adkins - Submission (Neck Crank) - 9/20/1996 - 1 - 2:06
Loss - Dan Severn - Decision (Unanimous) - 12/16/1995 - 1 - 18:00
Win - Steve Jennum - Submission (Neck Crank) - 12/16/1995 - 1 - 1:14
Loss - Oleg Taktarov - Submission (Rear Naked Choke) - 7/14/1995 - 1 - 17:45
Win - Paul Varelans - TKO (Strikes) - 7/14/1995 - 1 - 1:53
Win - John Matua - KO - 7/14/1995 - 1 - 0:20[/QUOTE]


I think that sums it up right there.
 
Was it really a good thing that he found Tito Ortiz? Sure the guy can fight I will give him that but his attitude is shit. I can't stand his interviews. Hell they are so bad that I can't even watch the matches he had.
 
[quote name='sendme']Was it really a good thing that he found Tito Ortiz? Sure the guy can fight I will give him that but his attitude is shit. I can't stand his interviews. Hell they are so bad that I can't even watch the matches he had.[/QUOTE]

Once Dana gets over his bitterness, Tito will be in the UFC Hall of Fame. I wasn't a fan of his early on, but he really grew up and that made him a better fighter. He also proved to be a really good coach on TUF 3 (and that was tough to admit because I've always been a big Shamrock fan).

You sound somewhat new to MMA, so I'll give you a pass, but Tito Ortiz was one of the first dominant champions in the sport (along with Randy Couture). He deserves to have his name remembered far more than Tank Abbott does.
 
I have watched UFC off and on for years. However when I say off and on it is I may see one or 2 matches every 3-6 months and don't really keep up with it. I kept up with it more in the past but not much more. I'm not saying Ortiz is not a good fighter. He is and untill I started to see interviews with him I liked watching what few fights he had. I'm not saying he shouldn't have his name remembered. I just find it hard to watch his matches just because of the interviews I have seen with him. I don't know if he is like that just for the interview or what. I will say again he is a good fighter but to me comes off as a jackass in his interviews.

As for Tank I have to say it was one of his matches that a friend of mine and I saw on a VHS from block buster when we were around 10 that got me into MMA. I don't remember who he was fighting but the guy tried to climb out of the octagon and tank went after him. I just thought it was funny.

Also I would have to say a good 70 to 80% of the UFC I have watched were from them tapes because they were only a buck to rent. I liked the matches with Shamrock the best out of all of them that I had seen. Severn was also really good.
 
[quote name='sendme']Also I would have to say a good 70 to 80% of the UFC I have watched were from them tapes because they were only a buck to rent. I liked the matches with Shamrock the best out of all of them that I had seen. Severn was also really good.[/QUOTE]

I'm not a huge Severn fan either, but he definitely had one world class skill that he was able to build off of. I'd say Severn is to Lesnar as Tank is to Kimbo. My biggest gripe about Severn was that he didn't know how to put people away. He could wrestle and control the hell of people, but then he'd kinda get this look like "Ok. Now what?" haha.

One of my favorite fighters from the early days was Don Frye. I loved watching his fights because he would just go to war with people. He was a solid wrestler, but still had knockout power. I do appreciate Severn and Frye for their awesome mustaches though. Those will never be topped! :)
 
Don Frye was/is awesome. The type of guy who just loved a good fight. I'll never forget his fight with Takayama in Pride. If you haven't seen it, watch it on youtube NOW!
 
Most of early UFC was glorified toughman contests with Gracie winning 4 out of the first five. Gracie left and Shamrock, Frye, Severn, Coleman, etc started to battle back and forth. I have watched from the beginning, it's like night and day really.
 
[quote name='evildeadjedi']Most of early UFC was glorified toughman contests with Gracie winning 4 out of the first five. Gracie left and Shamrock, Frye, Severn, Coleman, etc started to battle back and forth. I have watched from the beginning, it's like night and day really.[/QUOTE]

Well, yeah. But you have to remember the marketing behind it when it started as well. "Which martial arts discipline is the best???" You had guys coming in with knowledge in only one area just trying to impose their style on their opponent. Even Gracie was eventually exposed. That's why I consider Frye to be one of the true pioneers because, in my opinion, he was one of the first to cross train.

As much as I liked Ken Shamrock, and for as much hype as he got, he couldn't strike for shit. If he couldn't get a submission, he mostly didn't win.

EDIT - Wow, I did have something in here about Dan Severn that was somewhat negative, but I just looked at his Sherdog page, and I've gotta take it back. I can't knock anybody who is still beating kids half his age. He just turned 55 a couple days ago, and posted his last win last month. He also had a 10 fight win streak AFTER the age of 52. He hasn't beaten any big names in some time, but his resume is ridiculous. He's even got a win over a young Forrest Griffin back in 2001. There was a long stretch of time where he was fighting at least once a month...and winning most of them. That's impressive.

Coleman had skills, but was a gas can if I ever saw one. I'll never forget when Pete Williams knocked him into the next zip code. That's still one of the most brutal kicks I've ever seen.

For anybody who never saw it
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/141678/brutal_knockout/
 
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[quote name='n8rockerasu']Well, yeah. But you have to remember the marketing behind it when it started as well. "Which martial arts discipline is the best???" You had guys coming in with knowledge in only one area just trying to impose their style on their opponent. Even Gracie was eventually exposed. That's why I consider Frye to be one of the true pioneers because, in my opinion, he was one of the first to cross train.

As much as I liked Ken Shamrock, and for as much hype as he got, he couldn't strike for shit. If he couldn't get a submission, he mostly didn't win. Coleman had skills, but was a gas can if I ever saw one. I'll never forget when Pete Williams knocked him into the next zip code.

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Very true I agree all those sentiments(Frye's success definitely showed the benefits of cross training). Coleman did gas many times and I too will never forget Williams kick. The turning point was when Zuffa bought the dying UFC from SEG. I think it was not until UFC 39 or 40 that they found you could make actually money with the UFC.
 
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