Originally posted by jebsmoker:

the Russian version might be in copyright limbo.

Atari got the rights for publishing the English version - and it is same to assume that Ziggurat bought this from them. the Russian version is published by Russobit, although Russobit is now defunct, so no one knows who actually owns the rights to publish the Russian version now

well, thx for the answer

It would be ideal if these expansions got translated to english but that probably won't be for awhile if at all.

expansions for Boiling Point?! Never heard that before.

Originally posted by c4sper:

expansions for Boiling Point?! Never heard that before.

I have gold version on my dvd (I think it was only released in ru region)

Originally posted by WolfishMeat7:

Originally posted by c4sper:

expansions for Boiling Point?! Never heard that before.

I have gold version on my dvd (I think it was only released in ru region)

I think so too, i have the Disk version and Iam from Germany. Can you tell me whats new in the expansions?

Great War

This mod was one of two included in Xenus Gold package released in Russian. You get the opportunity to go through the main storyline of the game on two branches, leading eventually to a single final. The addon also includes a large number of new side missions for the CIA and the official, as a bonus add-on adds to the game episode "Big War" - the story of the capture of guerrillas Puerto Sombra, as well as other minor changes.

The Legend Is Alive

This mod was one of two included in Xenus Gold package released in Russian. It's a continuation of the storyline with new weapons, gangs and possibilities. More than life itself - you can now buy your own home. Each weapon has it's own ammo. The game world is no longer restricted to the framework of the script. This action addon occurs some time after the events of the original game. The protagonist addon - a man named Fred Fuslero. His appearance in Colombia at the beginning is a mystery to him. Externally Fuslero very similar to Sol Myers. He was even mistaken for Myers. The game begins with the fact that Fred is, so to speak, in the conclusion on the plantations of Botany. Near the main character reveals a strange fellow inmate. One of the features of the game is that the game now has no definite end. That is, the end of the main story the game is not the job is terminated. So it was, for example, in the GTA. Changed the approach to the formation of the main game's plot. The duration of the addon a bit longer the original game. Passage of some of the missions has a branched structure. During the passing game, will now be comes a moment when it is not always obvious where to go and what to do to continue the storyline. Now the player will not lead to over from mission to mission. Sometimes you need to do something to cook, buy a villa, for example, or talk to people on the streets.

Most of the text is translated from Russian I think, but you get the idea.

Originally posted by Terje_P:

Great War

This mod was one of two included in Xenus Gold package released in Russian. You get the opportunity to go through the main storyline of the game on two branches, leading eventually to a single final. The addon also includes a large number of new side missions for the CIA and the official, as a bonus add-on adds to the game episode "Big War" - the story of the capture of guerrillas Puerto Sombra, as well as other minor changes.

The Legend Is Alive

This mod was one of two included in Xenus Gold package released in Russian. It's a continuation of the storyline with new weapons, gangs and possibilities. More than life itself - you can now buy your own home. Each weapon has it's own ammo. The game world is no longer restricted to the framework of the script. This action addon occurs some time after the events of the original game. The protagonist addon - a man named Fred Fuslero. His appearance in Colombia at the beginning is a mystery to him. Externally Fuslero very similar to Sol Myers. He was even mistaken for Myers. The game begins with the fact that Fred is, so to speak, in the conclusion on the plantations of Botany. Near the main character reveals a strange fellow inmate. One of the features of the game is that the game now has no definite end. That is, the end of the main story the game is not the job is terminated. So it was, for example, in the GTA. Changed the approach to the formation of the main game's plot. The duration of the addon a bit longer the original game. Passage of some of the missions has a branched structure. During the passing game, will now be comes a moment when it is not always obvious where to go and what to do to continue the storyline. Now the player will not lead to over from mission to mission. Sometimes you need to do something to cook, buy a villa, for example, or talk to people on the streets.

Most of the text is translated from Russian I think, but you get the idea.

It wasn't an official expansion packs. They were fan-made expansions (mod) that were released officially inside the Gold edition.!

Which is also why, if you are interested in this game, you might want to consider these two other offerings, made later, built on the same engine by the same devs (basically):

-- Xenus 2 : White Gold

(like Boiling Point, vehicles both ground and air, some may be armed. When Community Patched probably more difficult. Slower and harder start for someone used to Boiling Point, prob less starting story, came out after it, interface similar in part to Deus Ex, System Shock 2, fun game once you can get it to work well)

-- Precursors (here you have Aliens, even some planetary and other travel added)

Those two games have been available for some time, are arguably as good or better, but require Community Patches (mostly made by Wespe5, don't recall the exact spelling), who was long active compiling and working on patches for both these games and Vampire: The Masquerade.

-- ALL THESE GAMES HAVE ISSUES WITH VOICEOVERS AND SOME BUGS
-- ALL THESE GAMES MOSTLY WORK WELL AFTER COMMUNITY PATCHES
-- THESE GAMES make a good ALTERNATIVE to something like FAR CRY SERIES
-- They also can be compared to a 3D FPS version of games like 7.62 High Calibre, Jagged Alliance 2, and so on.
-- Difficulty can be customized, as well as many other settings.
-- So in that regard, well ahead of their time in total game play value if they work well. Missions, Factions, looting, lots of weapons, just exploring, you name it.
-- Precursors early half of the tutorial gives you almost no sense of the game at all, Research it to find out more.
-- Both Xenus White Gold and Precursors are often on sale with genuine Steam Keys for under $6. So keep your options open, and they had demos, not sure if they still work or not, especially on Windows 11.

May not be worth getting Boiling Point given those options. Between it and Xenus, get the cheaper one, or try a demo, patch it up, see if it runs. Keep in mind the early tutorial phases take a while and take some time to get a full sense of the game (since starting area is meant to introduce only pieces at a time and be easier).

PCGamingWiki.com may have some info on this, used to. I'm sure some YouTube stuff is out there. Check out the Steam Forums as well for these games. They should have info on all this, did at one time. Gamefaqs.com used to also have help faqs on these games. Haven't been there in a long while to check.

I have played these games a long time ago (around the time when they were released). Despite enjoying them back then, it doesn't look like they're doing any updates to the visuals or fixing issues.

Considering the lack of support for all of the games from Deep Shadows, I wouldn't bother wasting money on these games unless they suddenly start updating them (especially Precursors).

Originally posted by READTHEE:

I have played these games a long time ago (around the time when they were released). Despite enjoying them back then, it doesn't look like they're doing any updates to the visuals or fixing issues.

Considering the lack of support for all of the games from Deep Shadows, I wouldn't bother wasting money on these games unless they suddenly start updating them (especially Precursors).

They can be both bought directly on Steam

https://store.steampowered.com/app/546230/Xenus_2_White_gold/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/547930/Precursors/

Both can be finished and Wesp5 really did amazing work with the unofficial patches.

Originally posted by cybermage:

Originally posted by READTHEE:

I have played these games a long time ago (around the time when they were released). Despite enjoying them back then, it doesn't look like they're doing any updates to the visuals or fixing issues.

Considering the lack of support for all of the games from Deep Shadows, I wouldn't bother wasting money on these games unless they suddenly start updating them (especially Precursors).

They can be both bought directly on Steam

https://store.steampowered.com/app/546230/Xenus_2_White_gold/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/547930/Precursors/

Both can be finished and Wesp5 really did amazing work with the unofficial patches.

I think you're missing the point.

Why would I support a company that doesn't support its own games and abandons them for mobile gaming?

I used to mod VTM Bloodlines so I know Wesp's work, but it's all pointless. I am not in a habit of giving money to developers who do a rug-pull and run the moment they're done selling same broken games over and over again.

This is worse than Pirahna Bytes level of incompetence where buggy games are left unpatched for the fan-base to fix. At-least their games aren't shipped a 80% broken mess.

Anyway, whoever wants to waste money on this, go ahead. I'm out.

Originally posted by READTHEE:

Why would I support a company that doesn't support its own games and abandons them for mobile gaming?

And there's, like, nothing you can do about it. Many Russian, Ukrainian and CIS countries' video game companies disappeared amid the financial crisis of the 2008-2010s. Some started distributing movies on disks (Noviy Disk, which by the way is experiencing new hardships due to sanctions on Blu-ray), some moved to the mobile market (Russobit-M, GFi and, as we know, didn't last very long there, both companies' websites are dead), some simply went bankrupt (Media 2000, Akella and many many more), and some survived (1C, Buka).
The rights to the games published by them now lie unknown to anyone, many of the games are simply lost and hundreds of games of different quality will simply never be uploaded to Steam or even to torrents. So we should be happy that at least some games are re-released and support publishers to support this trend.
Because, I think, few people will spend their money on re-releases of not always even good games on Steam or elsewhere. Because, first of all, it's worth spending time and money to find the current copyright holder (and according to the stories of the guys from GOG they sometimes involve private investigators for this kind of cases), to buy the rights to publish the game, where it's not clear how much they will sell them to you, people who own the rights may be aware of the market price, understand this issue, and may not, and charge a huge amount. So, I think it's worth supporting guys like Ziggurat, Throwback, Nightdive, Strategy First, SNEG and others, who, in fact, risking their own money (because it's not always clear whether it will pay off) re-release the games we want.

Originally posted by VicemanUral:

Originally posted by READTHEE:

Why would I support a company that doesn't support its own games and abandons them for mobile gaming?

And there's, like, nothing you can do about it. Many Russian, Ukrainian and CIS countries' video game companies disappeared amid the financial crisis of the 2008-2010s. Some started distributing movies on disks (Noviy Disk, which by the way is experiencing new hardships due to sanctions on Blu-ray), some moved to the mobile market (Russobit-M, GFi and, as we know, didn't last very long there, both companies' websites are dead), some simply went bankrupt (Media 2000, Akella and many many more), and some survived (1C, Buka).

Можно подумать, что в России не понимали, что не продление срока Путина в 2008 году не приведёт к таким последствиям. Вы сами всех этих издателей 00-х сдали! Руссобит-М в том числе. Формально действуя по Конституции РФ. При чём тут Crysis?
А с Херсоном сдачу повторили, спросив мнение у военных. Будто бы не знали, как они вам ответят. Перед военными нужно задачу для выполения ставить, а не мнение их спрашивать.
Давайте юзеров спросим, какую цену у игры они хотят здесь видеть? 10 рублей они вам ответят. Ну чего под дурачков косить-то? Всё прекрасно знали и понимали, что делаете!
Под предлогом закона и права выбора. Но это не закон и не право выбора! Это под их предлогом всё происходит у вас. И дальше так и будет происходить! Если ничего не делать. Поэтому надо что-то делать. Но если начинаешь, то хоп- закон. Но это не закон! Это под его предлогом.

Originally posted by VicemanUral:

Originally posted by READTHEE:

Why would I support a company that doesn't support its own games and abandons them for mobile gaming?

Because, I think, few people will spend their money on re-releases of not always even good games on Steam or elsewhere. Because, first of all, it's worth spending time and money to find the current copyright holder (and according to the stories of the guys from GOG they sometimes involve private investigators for this kind of cases), to buy the rights to publish the game, where it's not clear how much they will sell them to you, people who own the rights may be aware of the market price, understand this issue, and may not, and charge a huge amount. So, I think it's worth supporting guys like Ziggurat, Throwback, Nightdive, Strategy First, SNEG and others, who, in fact, risking their own money (because it's not always clear whether it will pay off) re-release the games we want.

А ЦРУ разве не рисковали в 90-х, загружая меня препаратами "для баб"? Не просто так же применяли, чтобы сливать их в унитаз? А в качестве аванса. Но баб не получилось. Европа их кинула! Вместе з Україною этою. Отсюда и крах 90-х был. Путин взялся. И произошёл мой откат в Россию. Потом опять по-новой. Когда в 2009 ЦРУ стали грузить меня препаратами "для компа". Тоже не просто так, чтобы сливать их в унитаз. И тоже в качестве аванса. И тоже большой риск был. Но это уже к Азии было. А Азия их не кинула. Когда спустя полтора года у меня появился комп с T-ara этими. А дальше опять Европа. Но аванса из препаратов в 2014 уже не было! Так как всё это уже было. Вот так вот и до сих пор.
Есть состояние, создаваемое этими препаратами, есть выражение этого состояния в чём-то или в ком-то. И к одному можно идти из другого: через состояние к выражению состояния приходить, или наоборот, через выражение состояния к самому состоянию приходить. Что так, что так. Либо авансом применяя эти препараты для состояния, в надежде на то, что тебе подыграют, и дадут возможность его выражения, либо авансом создавая выражение этого состояния, в надежде на то, что тебе дадут само состояние- эти препараты то есть.
У меня, как бы, расчёт из обратного, на то, что от топовой видеокарты ASUS ROG 4070Ti, которую я приобрёл, это состояние должно появиться. Я тоже рискую. Как и ЦРУ, которые с препаратами в 90-х наебались с Европой этой. А вот в 10-х с Азией нет. Вопрос лишь в том, рулид или ровамицин будет? Но что-то за 1000-1500 рублей уж точно. Никак не азитромицин 100-150 рублёвый 2010-х. Ну и видеокарта ASUS GTX 440 была ему под стать, у меня которая. А здесь, как бы, исходя из обратного сделать... Да, всё та же Азия до сих пор. А Европа- гиблое дело. То ли они кидалы просто, то ли я евробабам не пара.
Состояние "прокатиться с ветерком", создаваемое пенициллином в Украине, тоже просто так разве делают украм этим? Для войны! А у меня тогда почему состояние "для баб" в 90-х просто так было, с тетрациклином этим? У самих ведь не просто? Потому что кидалы они. Вот почему. Или состояние "для стройки", создаваемое цефалоспоринами. Ну для стройки ведь его делают. Крымского моста того же. Не просто так же? И там, где будет Путин, там всегда будет какая-то стройка. А если стройки не будет, то и состояния "для стройки" не будет. А чё, должно быть, что ли?