Japanese Niche Games Deals & Discussion Thread 4.0

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Welcome to the Japanese niche games deals and discussion thread!  Feel free to talk about local and import Japanese games here.  Our goal is to maintain a thread dedicated to active deals on niche games including RPGs, Visual Novels (VN), Shoot'em ups (Shmups), Musou, etc.  Also maintained are pre-orders for standard, limited and collector's edition games with key release dates provided.

I've wikified the thread to make it more friendly and open to others that can actively update with important information. You can find the wiki post directly below this one.

NOTE:  Please, leave the censorship discussion away from this thread.  It's common for japanese games to have questionable content outside of the country.  We want to keep discussions to the game itself and not about cultural/societal tolerance.

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Our moderators are: Draekon, Las_Hole, and Waffleswanton

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You can also leave your PSN ID in the thread, saying you want to join, and we can invite you directly as well.

As always, have fun and enjoy your stay!

 
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Supplice said:
Upcoming Final Fantasy XV DLC Get Release Dates/Windows up to Episode Prompto
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How to beat Final Fantasy XV: .... Auto attack by holding x and Equip "Super Suit" for no damage.

Whats the fucking Point in playing?! God knows its not for the "story".

"Super Suits" Costumes...Really? The last thing that game needs is invincibility for the characters.

I literally died ONCE during my entire play through and that was due to the game deciding to spawn a LVL 70 mech from the airship while i was in hammerhead upgrading my car at LVL 30.

Can't Wait to see how SE bastardizes the Next Mainline Final Fantasy... (R.I.P: FF Vii Nostalgia)
 
Anyone try Fate/Extella yet.

Stayed home sick from work and got to play some.

Reminds me of Samurai Warriors in playing stages and beating semi bosses to beat the boss. Only played one stage so far.

I really like it

 
Semi off topic I guess.

Are there any good import discs that have compilations of older games on them for ps4? Im new to importing games but I used to see them often a while back.

 
I'm hoping there's news about Students of the Round 2 soon - the Xbox One exclusive that's ETA was March 2017

I'm slowly realizing my Xbox One is basically worthless to me, but then I remembered that's supposedly coming.

Stranger of Sword City was also an 'exclusive' but it came out on Vita as well (although it was originally on Vita in Japan, while Students of the Round 1 seems to have been an Xbox 360 exclusive)

 
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If you all haven't started already, I would HIGHLY recommend playing the newly released Yakuza 0 for the PS4.

AMAZING game that I am having so much fun playing, and I think many other people would enjoy it also.

 
Was trying to finish Trails of Cold steel II before Yakuza 0 came out.....I failed. I loved the first one but the sequel improves on everything. 

 
ragnar14 said:
No. This is CAG.
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This is also the niche Japanese game thread where we complain about not getting games localized or don't get physical releases. Gotta put that money where your mouth is. [Also preordering games for $36 each was a pretty CAG worthy deal :x]
 
Pikagreg said:
Was trying to finish Trails of Cold steel II before Yakuza 0 came out.....I failed. I loved the first one but the sequel improves on everything.
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I absolutely love the two games, and can't wait for the 3rd release. I put 130 hours into each to get the platinum and enjoyed very second. I've never played the Yakuza games, but as much love as they get here, I might have to check them out, finally.

 
Cloyd said:
I absolutely love the two games, and can't wait for the 3rd release. I put 130 hours into each to get the platinum and enjoyed very second. I've never played the Yakuza games, but as much love as they get here, I might have to check them out, finally.
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Yakuza 0 is awesome because I have Yakuza 3-5 (and even the zombie spin-off Dead Souls), but never got to play them. Yakuza 0 helps me get introduced to the main characters and their backstory before jumping into Yakuza 3-5.

Also the graphics, the landscape of 1980s Japan, and the story are top notch in my opinion. The cut scenes are kind of long, but the great story makes up for it. Feels like an extended Japanese drama (if you're into those types of shows, which I assume you are since you enjoy Japanese niche games!)

 
If people start with Yakuza 0 I think it will spoil them on the fighting system. Yakuza 1 is still likely the best place to start, and that's where the summer Yakuza release comes in. Course the story takes place first in Yakuza 0....but yeah just saying. I will start playing Yakuza 0 myself someday soon. I like all the Yakuza games, though I haven't played 5 yet.

 
umbry said:
Anyone try Fate/Extella yet.

Stayed home sick from work and got to play some.

Reminds me of Samurai Warriors in playing stages and beating semi bosses to beat the boss. Only played one stage so far.

I really like it
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I shared some thoughts on the Vita thread. I really enjoyed the game as well. I am almost through the second arc. It does get a bit repetitive, but my wife and I are big fans of the anime, so character interactions complemented the lack of maps after a couple hours.

 
nitrosmob said:
If people start with Yakuza 0 I think it will spoil them on the fighting system. Yakuza 1 is still likely the best place to start, and that's where the summer Yakuza release comes in. Course the story takes place first in Yakuza 0....but yeah just saying. I will start playing Yakuza 0 myself someday soon. I like all the Yakuza games, though I haven't played 5 yet.
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Is it worth hunting down a PS2 and Yakuza 1 and 2, or could I get a reasonable Yakuza experience playing through Yakuza 3-4-5-0 and then subsequently 6?

 
Tora Chan said:
Is it worth hunting down a PS2 and Yakuza 1 and 2, or could I get a reasonable Yakuza experience playing through Yakuza 3-4-5-0 and then subsequently 6?
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Well Yakuza Kiwami is coming to PS4 later this year and is supposed to be a remake of the 1st game. If it does well maybe they'll remake 2

 
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Well Yakuza Kiwami is coming to PS4 later this year and is supposed to be a remake of the 1st game. If it does well maybe they'll remake 2
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OH DAMN REALLY? I'll definitely buy this and do my part in making it successful enough for Yakuza 2 to be made.

I had no idea about this, thanks for sharing that info :)

Also thanks Soma_Cruz & Vigilante as well

 
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Tora Chan said:
Is it worth hunting down a PS2 and Yakuza 1 and 2, or could I get a reasonable Yakuza experience playing through Yakuza 3-4-5-0 and then subsequently 6?
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Yakuza 2 is going to cost you an arm/leg...... might be better to just watch it on youtube/wait for the remake/run a "backup" copy

I'm tempted to sell my copy of Yakuza 1 and Yakuza 2 that are still sealed.

Just beat Yakuza 0. It is flawed but a lot of fun.

 
wbc1228 said:
Yakuza 2 is going to cost you an arm/leg...... might be better to just watch it on youtube/wait for the remake/run a "backup" copy

I'm tempted to sell my copy of Yakuza 1 and Yakuza 2 that are still sealed.

Just beat Yakuza 0. It is flawed but a lot of fun.
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What are some of Yakuza 0's flaws? I just completely chapter 1 so far and haven't experienced much of the game yet.

 
Have they improved the controls for Yakuza? I remember playing a demo for one of them (maybe Yakuza 3?) and the controls felt kind of janky. Wouldn't mind giving Yakuza Dead Souls a try, or possibly Yakuza 0 once the price drops, if there's been some improvement.

 
wbc1228 said:
Yakuza 2 is going to cost you an arm/leg...... might be better to just watch it on youtube/wait for the remake/run a "backup" copy

I'm tempted to sell my copy of Yakuza 1 and Yakuza 2 that are still sealed.

Just beat Yakuza 0. It is flawed but a lot of fun.
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You should totally sell those while the prices are astronomical. They are going to get re-made and then prices will crash. No question. You kept them sealed for a reason and you're not playing them. That'll be a nice chunk of change that will fund your next console purchase.

 
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I really wish Sega would publish Valkyria Chronicles 2&3, insead of just lamely "remastering" 1, which we all already played and is widely available on PS3.  We shouldn't have to go back to PSP graphics.  Isn't it funny how going back 1-2 generations is always harder than going retro?

 
SolidSnake86 said:
Have they improved the controls for Yakuza? I remember playing a demo for one of them (maybe Yakuza 3?) and the controls felt kind of janky. Wouldn't mind giving Yakuza Dead Souls a try, or possibly Yakuza 0 once the price drops, if there's been some improvement.
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Yakuza 0 was my first Yakuza game and I found the controls janky. I didn't make it out of Chapter 1 before putting the game away.
 
Most reviewers tend to say the story isn't as good in the prequel. I know I loved Yakuza 1's story quite a bit. 3 was aight and 4 was also aight. Need to play 5 for sure....eventually....hopefully before 6 is out.

 
For those that missed the underwhelming Final Fantasy event last night, this was the only announcement of note:   (Besides FF12: Zodiac Age getting a July 11 release date in NA.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU4Hlio3u3s

New Fortune street that's Final Fantasy + Dragon quest!  No mention on whether or not it's coming west.  Which I mention because there have been several games in this series that didn't come here. 

 
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Surprised Yakuza 2 is so expensive Picked up Yakuza 1 and 2 sealed awhile back from this mom and pop game store that went out of business. 

 
I feel like Yakuza 0 is the peak of the fighting gameplay, its so good in that game. Kiryu himself getting 4 types of fighting styles was really refreshing. 

However, it's disappointing that the combat system seems to falter in both Kiwami, and even more so in 6. (At least in my opinion) So that's why I really like Yakuza 0.

 
ragnar14 said:
No. This is CAG.
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exactly. Only time you should be buying /preordering is either if it has a low print or a discount is offered like with cold steel. Since most games get price drops shortly after release (especially tales of since the last 5 released around black friday) there's not much reason to buy games at launch that are just going to end up unplayed in your backlog.

 
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nitrosmob said:
If people start with Yakuza 0 I think it will spoil them on the fighting system. Yakuza 1 is still likely the best place to start, and that's where the summer Yakuza release comes in. Course the story takes place first in Yakuza 0....but yeah just saying. I will start playing Yakuza 0 myself someday soon. I like all the Yakuza games, though I haven't played 5 yet.
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Yeah, this is why I won't be playing 0 any time soon. It might be first chronologically, but it'd be hard to go back and play the others in my backlog after playing the technologically better game first.

Nothing371 said:
I really wish Sega would publish Valkyria Chronicles 2&3, insead of just lamely "remastering" 1, which we all already played and is widely available on PS3. We shouldn't have to go back to PSP graphics. Isn't it funny how going back 1-2 generations is always harder than going retro?
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I don't mind the remaster of 1, I just hope it did well enough to have 2 & 3 redone in the same engine (and brought over) :)

 
godofwar7 said:
This is also the niche Japanese game thread where we complain about not getting games localized or don't get physical releases. Gotta put that money where your mouth is. [Also preordering games for $36 each was a pretty CAG worthy deal :x]
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eh one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the other though. Numerous times games don't get localized due to numerous little reasons. It could be a case of bad timing being too late in a consoles life cycle. Or they cannot afford to localize it themselves. Don't have an american branch or european branch. If sales were a reason for a game to get localized then we'd have seen tales of hearts and innocence long ago on the ds.

 
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shadowysea07 said:
eh one doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the other though. Numerous times games don't get localized due to numerous little reasons. It could be a case of bad timing being too late in a consoles life cycle. Or they cannot afford to localize it themselves. Don't have an american branch or european branch. If sales were a reason for a game to get localized then we'd have seen tales of hearts and innocence long ago on the ds.
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Sales are a reason when games get released digital only where good sales can lead to physical releases. Case and point Yakuza 5 and Project Diva f Vita

EDIT: In regards to sales being related to getting a game localized, again Yakuza is a great example. Specifically the long gap between the release of 2 and 3 when people just assumed 3 was never coming and then again during the long gap between Dead Souls and 5. It really doesn't seem like the series sells well enough in the west for Sega to really care about releasing them here anymore. Waiting for the games in the series to get price drops just further supports Sega's theory that they aren't worth localizing. We only eventually got 5 because of Sony and it looks like Sega was happy enough with the sales of 5 to give us 0 physical. At this point buying a game like that at/near release to show there is support here for the franchise is incredibly important.

 
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whoknows said:
Sales are a reason when games get released digital only where good sales can lead to physical releases. Case and point Yakuza 5 and Project Diva f Vita
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But it's not necessarily the only factor. Limited Run Games tried to get Yakuza published, and were rejected. Such a publishing deal would have required no effort on Sega's part and only gotten them profit.

 
ragnar14 said:
But it's not necessarily the only factor. Limited Run Games tried to get Yakuza published, and were rejected. Such a publishing deal would have required no effort on Sega's part and only gotten them profit.
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Either Sega doesn't want to share or they just didn't think the potential sales would have been worth it to bother. Realistically, the number of copies LRG sells isn't anything for a company like Sega to really care about.

 
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whoknows said:
Sales are a reason when games get released digital only where good sales can lead to physical releases. Case and point Yakuza 5 and Project Diva f Vita

EDIT: In regards to sales being related to getting a game localized, again Yakuza is a great example. Specifically the long gap between the release of 2 and 3 when people just assumed 3 was never coming and then again during the long gap between Dead Souls and 5. It really doesn't seem like the series sells well enough in the west for Sega to really care about releasing them here anymore. Waiting for the games in the series to get price drops just further supports Sega's theory that they aren't worth localizing. We only eventually got 5 because of Sony and it looks like Sega was happy enough with the sales of 5 to give us 0 physical. At this point buying a game like that at/near release to show there is support here for the franchise is incredibly important.
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Yeah I've talked to multiple people who work in the industry about this, and even though there are sometimes outside factors that affect whether an individual game gets released or not, how well a game is expected to sell is usually the most important factor in whether it gets localized or not, and also whether it stays digital-only or gets a retail release as well.
 
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But it's not necessarily the only factor. Limited Run Games tried to get Yakuza published, and were rejected. Such a publishing deal would have required no effort on Sega's part and only gotten them profit.
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And as I said its not always the case that sales will or wont effect when a game is getting released. yakuza correct me if I am wrong is also one of the few series that was upfront with the fanbase that they needed sales for 5. I also wasn't saying don't buy yakuza here either Unless you don't intend to play it anyway.

I also agree on the localization by other companies thing is a weird issue for them and obviously messy. Companies like bamco and sega have a strange track record when it comes to letting other companies do games localizations for them. Sometimes they say yes but the majority of the time they say no. Granted the environment for rpgs is significantly better than it was 5-7 years ago.

 
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anyone else unable to download adventure item pack 2? I was able to add it to my cart but in my dowload list it has no download button option or anything next to it.

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Free PSN Junk this week:

Nioh

PS4

Mark of the Conqueror (Accidental public listing? One of the demo rewards. May not be open to all.)

Tales of Berseria

PS4

Adventure Item Pack 2

Catalog 2

Rokurou Theme (Static)

Sword Art Online -Hollow Realization-

PS4

Enhancement Set (L)

Vita

Enhancement Set (L)
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shadowysea07 said:
And as I said its not always the case that sales will or wont effect when a game is getting released. yakuza correct me if I am wrong is also one of the few series that was upfront with the fanbase that they needed sales for 5. I also wasn't saying don't buy yakuza here either Unless you don't intend to play it anyway.
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Sales are always relevant. It's the only way a company makes money. If projected sales aren't enough to outweigh costs, companies are going to make certain decisions that we won't like.
 
godofwar7 said:
Sales are always relevant. It's the only way a company makes money. If projected sales aren't enough to outweigh costs, companies are going to make certain decisions that we won't like.
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They are but one of many factors that determines whether a game will get a localization but there are times where they can be irrelevant to the decision. Share holders, system its releasing on, timing ect all can be factors as well. Sales biggest effects are on shipment sizes, prices and shelving negotiations for retailers. Sometimes companies decide to go in a different direction like bamco did for a while with taking gambles on new ips instead of cheap stable releases from their long running series.

 
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shadowysea07 said:
They are but one of many factors that determines whether a game will get a localization but there are times where they can be irrelevant to the decision. Share holders, system its releasing on, timing ect all can be factors as well. Sales biggest effects are on shipment sizes, prices and shelving negotiations for retailers. Sometimes companies decide to go in a different direction like bamco did for a while with taking gambles on new ips instead of cheap stable releases from their long running series.
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You realize that the reasons you have stated are factors because of sales right?
Shareholders won't like games that have low sales. You don't localize a game on a last gen system because sales are too low to be worth it. You don't continue releasing a stable game series because you see a steady decline in sales.

It's very simple. Companies are in business to make a profit. All their revenue is from sales. Thus all their decisions are made in relation to how much sales they will get vs the costs it will take to acquire those sales.
 
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