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#1 Javery   Drug-Dealer-Keeper-Awayer CAGiversary!   22393 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:01 PM

Make it happen Nintendo.

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#2 Mr Unoriginal   Cheap Amish Gamer CAGiversary!   7456 Posts   Joined 11.7 Years Ago  

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:10 PM

Probably 3DS if anything.

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#3 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   20087 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:38 PM

I have a crazy feeling that Nintendo wants to put the Metroid franchise on the back burner.

I mean, Other M was just so awful and they completely ignored Metroid's 25th anniversary (Zelda and Mario got one, and even Kirby is getting one).

NSMB2 seems kinda stale (not saying I have anything against a sequels, since other companies do annual updates), especially since the best they could think up of is throwing tons of gold coins everywhere. They could have made a new 2D Metroid game in its place but that would probably take a bit of effort.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:16 AM

^I'd buy a Metroid collection for the Wii. (Even if it only had three games. Metroid NES, Metroid 2: Return of Samus, and Super Metroid.)

I'd be happier to see a 2D Metroid be released on the DS. I mean like the GB/GBA games. I so want a Metroid Fusion 2 or Metroid Zero Mission 2! (Remake of Metroid 2: Return of Samus.)

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 12:21 PM

Why would they do a Metroid collection on Wii? They already did the Prime trilogy. That leaves Metroid and Super Metroid. I guess they could do the Gameboy games but how would that look on an HDTV?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:51 PM

Ugh. I'm not ever going to buy a collection of old games I've already played to death. I want a kick ass 2D Metroid with awesome graphics, crazy power-ups and a huge world to explore. A 3DS version would be sweet but I'd want a "full" game not like Fusion or Zero which were awesome but too small/short, IMO.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

Ugh. I'm not ever going to buy a collection of old games I've already played to death. I want a kick ass 2D Metroid with awesome graphics, crazy power-ups and a huge world to explore. A 3DS version would be sweet but I'd want a "full" game not like Fusion or Zero which were awesome but too small/short, IMO.


Agree on all points. The only 2D Metroid game that is kind of long is Metroid II, but I think that has more to do with the lack of a map system and the amount of back-tracking you inevitably do. It's a prime candidate for a bad-ass remake, which I was hoping we'd see after Zero Mission came out so well....

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:22 PM

On an unrelated note, did any of you blokes score a Samus Aran doll from NERD ONE at Wonder Festival? Modeled after the Varia suit in Super Metroid. Amazing!

Anyways, there is a rumour that Team Ninja hopes to work with Nintendo again. I'd like to see it happen but with, you know, some oversight to the game this time. Sakamoto is weak.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:34 PM

Slim to none, probably. Especially since Other M started out as a 2.5D sidescroller (like NSMBW, DKCR, KEY, K:RTDL, etc.) but without the obvious inclusion of co-op.

Although there'll probably be a Metroid game considering Miyamoto talked about the prospects of having one on Wii U. And when Miyamoto says something about a franchise, it's probably already in development.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 05:11 PM

Metroid: Other M 2. The sequel you've all been waiting for.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:18 PM

Metroid: Other M 2. The sequel you've all been waiting for.


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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:29 PM

I have a crazy feeling that Nintendo wants to put the Metroid franchise on the back burner.

I mean, Other M was just so awful and they completely ignored Metroid's 25th anniversary (Zelda and Mario got one, and even Kirby is getting one).

NSMB2 seems kinda stale (not saying I have anything against a sequels, since other companies do annual updates), especially since the best they could think up of is throwing tons of gold coins everywhere. They could have made a new 2D Metroid game in its place but that would probably take a bit of effort.

NSMB 2 is stale. I bought it today and well it's like why did I spend $40 on this. Still though Metroid could use a new 2D game that is classic Metroid based. I mean every Metroid game other than Other M in my opinion was good. Even the prime games were good imo. I don't see how they can't make a new Metroid, the talent is there, and they have the system.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 07:32 PM

As likely as a Castlevania game coming to Vita.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 09:01 PM

NSMB 2 is stale. I bought it today and well it's like why did I spend $40 on this.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 02:52 PM

I would love a remake of Metroid 2. I would also sell my soul for an HD remake of Super Metroid.
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#16 Vinny   Bang, bang... pew... CAGiversary!   20087 Posts   Joined 11.0 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:16 PM

Why would they do a Metroid collection on Wii? They already did the Prime trilogy. That leaves Metroid and Super Metroid. I guess they could do the Gameboy games but how would that look on an HDTV?


I know I'm in the minority here but I thought that each successive entry in the Prime games lost some of the best aspects of the Metroid franchise (the exploration, atmosphere, the feeling of being "alone") and moved it closer to the "generic FPS" with each successive entry. I loved the first Prime (basically Super Metroid 3D), liked Echoes a lot, but really didn't care for Corruption. Oh, and I hated waggle controls... made shooting better but exploration worse.

With all of that said, I would still love to see Metroid (maybe even with Zero Mission), Metroid II, Fusion and Super Metroid with a OST and artbook in one box set. I hate re-releases but love bonus goodies.

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#17 Javery   Drug-Dealer-Keeper-Awayer CAGiversary!   22393 Posts   Joined 11.8 Years Ago  

Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:56 PM

Metroid Prime is the best Metroid ever (blasphemy!) but the series did go downhill with 2 and 3. If I had to rank them:

Metroid Prime / Super Metroid
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Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
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Metroid
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Metroid: Zero Mission
Metroid Fusion
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Metroid II: Return of Samus
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Metroid: Other M

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:55 PM

NSMB 2 is stale. I bought it today and well it's like why did I spend $40 on this. Still though Metroid could use a new 2D game that is classic Metroid based. I mean every Metroid game other than Other M in my opinion was good. Even the prime games were good imo. I don't see how they can't make a new Metroid, the talent is there, and they have the system.


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I'm not sure I'm reading this right. Are you saying Team Ninja is talented? I sure hope not.

And it's clear than NuSMB actually has the main NSMB team working on it. It has a lot of things that do make it stand out. NSMB2 was kind of kicked out the door in a few months, while NuSMB has been in development since early 2010.
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#19 Billytwoshoes   Perpetually behind the times CAGiversary!   1629 Posts   Joined 3.1 Years Ago  

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 07:50 PM

I think there is a good chance for another 2/2.5D Metroid in the near future, hopefully it will be part of a combo release on 3DS and Wii U, as Nintendo likes to link up the home console and portable versions with Metroid releases. This just makes sense with the new tablet controller, or to better phrase it, should make sense.

The fact that Other M went with such a diverse play styles (2D, third person, first person) I see it as an experiment to see how the fans would react to its individual parts. Not to mention that practically every Metroid game (except the primes) is referenced to some extent through story or nostalgic references, I really take it as (intended) fan service and a testing ground for the next incarnation.

Personally for the $5 I spent on Other M, I loved it, and I think if they focused on the original 2.5D concept, I would look forward to it. While the newer generation is harking for more Prime, I think a majority of the older generation is clamoring for a 2D title, hopefully Nintendo is listening.

Also, the idea of a longer gameplay, exploration based 2D Metroid is almost an oxymoron IMO, as anytime a development team dedicates its resources on creating a diverse, interconnected 2D world map, the priority is not longevity. Castlevania SotN and the subsequent releases in a similar vein were different in the fact it focused on RPG elements to extend the gameplay, and I would not want to see that in a Metroid game.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:48 AM

Also, the idea of a longer gameplay, exploration based 2D Metroid is almost an oxymoron IMO, as anytime a development team dedicates its resources on creating a diverse, interconnected 2D world map, the priority is not longevity. Castlevania SotN and the subsequent releases in a similar vein were different in the fact it focused on RPG elements to extend the gameplay, and I would not want to see that in a Metroid game.


Considering one of the major things in the series is to finish the game as fast as possible to get the best ending, what does that say to you. I like exploring, best ending be damned until I do one playthrough my way then if I feel like it I'll do a speed run. That's what I always felt was the oxymoron of the series, you need to explore, just do it with as little resources as possible and as fast as you can, so you can see our strong heroine in a bikini....ok, why?
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:56 PM

That's what I always felt was the oxymoron of the series, you need to explore, just do it with as little resources as possible and as fast as you can, so you can see our strong heroine in a bikini....ok, why?


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:48 PM

I'd be happier to see a 2D Metroid be released on the DS. I mean like the GB/GBA games. I so want a Metroid Fusion 2 or Metroid Zero Mission 2! (Remake of Metroid 2: Return of Samus.)


I never expect anything good from portable games anymore. GBA had some good games but only because there were no 2D games being made on consoles at the time, so if a developer wanted to make a 2D game it pretty much had to be on GBA.
That's not the case anymore, so the vast majority of games that come out on portable systems are from developers who don't have the talent to make console games. They make games for portable systems where their audience is far more easily impressed.

NSMB 2 is stale. I bought it today and well it's like why did I spend $40 on this.


This is a prime example. I haven't played NSMB 2 (nor do I plan to) because the original was terrible... the Wii game was excellent. The Wii (and WiiU) are now getting great 2D games, the DS (and 3DS) just get crappy ones.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:04 PM

Because in 1987 there was no Internet so pictures of boobs were hard to come by. That JC Penny catalog only came once a year you know.

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#24 johnnypark   Farewell My Viking! CAGiversary!   3370 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:29 PM

I think there is a good chance for another 2/2.5D Metroid in the near future, hopefully it will be part of a combo release on 3DS and Wii U, as Nintendo likes to link up the home console and portable versions with Metroid releases. This just makes sense with the new tablet controller, or to better phrase it, should make sense.

The fact that Other M went with such a diverse play styles (2D, third person, first person) I see it as an experiment to see how the fans would react to its individual parts. Not to mention that practically every Metroid game (except the primes) is referenced to some extent through story or nostalgic references, I really take it as (intended) fan service and a testing ground for the next incarnation.

Personally for the $5 I spent on Other M, I loved it, and I think if they focused on the original 2.5D concept, I would look forward to it. While the newer generation is harking for more Prime, I think a majority of the older generation is clamoring for a 2D title, hopefully Nintendo is listening.

Also, the idea of a longer gameplay, exploration based 2D Metroid is almost an oxymoron IMO, as anytime a development team dedicates its resources on creating a diverse, interconnected 2D world map, the priority is not longevity. Castlevania SotN and the subsequent releases in a similar vein were different in the fact it focused on RPG elements to extend the gameplay, and I would not want to see that in a Metroid game.


The gameplay in Other M wasn't really the problem, it was the lame storytelling. Parts of the game itself could have used some tweaking and the way she unlocked powers (being given fucking permission??) was stupif as hell, but as a huge Metroid fan I enjoyed it when I played it, it just wasn't memorable and didn't leave a lasting impression on me.

#25 johnnypark   Farewell My Viking! CAGiversary!   3370 Posts   Joined 8.9 Years Ago  

Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:32 PM

Metroid Prime is the best Metroid ever (blasphemy!) but the series did go downhill with 2 and 3. If I had to rank them:

Metroid Prime / Super Metroid
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Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
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Metroid
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Metroid: Zero Mission
Metroid Fusion
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Metroid II: Return of Samus
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Metroid: Other M


For real, you'd put the original Metroid above Zero Mission? The NES OG is almost unplayable to me because of the horrible save system and the fact that you restart with 30 health no matter what. Farming 6 energy tanks just to go fight a boss just sucks.

I playdd it a ton as a kid and have a ton of respect for the game based on the foundation and legacy it created. But Zero Mission was essentially a Super Metroid style remake of the NES game, and its one of my favorites.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:36 PM

Top Tier
- Super Metroid
- Metroid Zero Mission
- Metroid Prime

Middle Tier
- Metroid Fusion
- Metroid Prime 3
- Metroid Prime 2

Low Tier
- Metroid
- Prime Pinball
- Metroid 2
- Hunters

Doesn't Exist Tier
- Other M
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Posted 21 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

The gameplay in Other M wasn't really the problem, it was the lame storytelling. Parts of the game itself could have used some tweaking and the way she unlocked powers (being given fucking permission??) was stupif as hell, but as a huge Metroid fan I enjoyed it when I played it, it just wasn't memorable and didn't leave a lasting impression on me.

I agree with those points, but because I only invested $5, I figure the 20+ hours of playtime (one 100% normal run and one hard run) that I enjoyed was a great cost to entertainment ratio. If I was a devout fan that paid $40-50 at launch for it, then I would definitely have a different opinion.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:40 PM

For real, you'd put the original Metroid above Zero Mission? The NES OG is almost unplayable to me because of the horrible save system and the fact that you restart with 30 health no matter what. Farming 6 energy tanks just to go fight a boss just sucks.

I playdd it a ton as a kid and have a ton of respect for the game based on the foundation and legacy it created. But Zero Mission was essentially a Super Metroid style remake of the NES game, and its one of my favorites.


I could be talked out of it. I just played Metroid and had a lot of fun with it considering it is so old. I haven't played Zero Mission since it came out and I remember not being too impressed but maybe my memory is hazy. I think I was still pissed off at Metroid Fusion to properly enjoy it. I guess I know what game I'm playing next!

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:37 AM

If they do release a new 2d Metroid, it'll look great, sound great, and most likely be terrible. They will shoehorn gimmicks into that make use of all the Wii U controller's features. And since they've already kind of defined Samus' personality in Other M, I doubt they can go back to her being a silent badass again.

Remakes of older Metriods would be awesome though
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:41 PM

Top Tier
- Super Metroid
- Metroid Zero Mission
- Metroid Prime

Middle Tier
- Metroid Fusion
- Metroid Prime 3
- Metroid Prime 2

Low Tier
- Metroid
- Prime Pinball
- Metroid 2
- Hunters

Doesn't Exist Tier
- Other M


Glad to see someone mentioned Prime Pinball, I actually really love that game. I had a 3rd party rumble pack for my DSLite and played the hell out of that game. It would make an excellent eShop game even if they didn't add anything to it, and id totally pay $5 to have it always on my 3DS.