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Certificates of Deposit and online banking question


#1 shieryda   Opus Eponymous CAGiversary!   9249 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:41 PM

Do any of you have CDs? My current institution (in another state) has shitty rates, so I wanted to possibly look into moving them to another bank (online).

Anyone use an online-only bank for CDs?

#2 dopa345   All around nice guy CAGiversary!   2206 Posts   Joined 11.1 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:45 PM

CD rates are so low I wouldn't bother. I have most of my savings in online banks, the interest rates are usually much better than in a regular bank.

#3 dmaul1114   Banned Banned   24688 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 08:52 PM

Yeah, rates are so low right now it's just not worth having your money tied up for a few years.

Better to just put it in on online savings and earn a 1% or whatever and have access to the money if an emergency since CD rate's aren't much above that.

#4 bordjon   tastes good on the bun. CAGiversary!   1079 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:00 PM

yeah online savings rates are close to what smaller credit union specials on CDs are right now - so I'd go with just regular online savings so you aren't locked in. I've had money in ING for many years and have had no problems with them. They have been owned by Capital One for a bit and are apparently going to see some bigger changes here very soon. There is also speculation on "unannounced" changes like new fees, lower rates, etc. http://www.nerdwalle...ct-capital-one/
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:10 PM

got my cash in a money market at .44% what sucks
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#6 shieryda   Opus Eponymous CAGiversary!   9249 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:22 PM

Here are some current rates:

6-month: Ally - 0.74%
1-year: Ally - 1.04%

I currently have 6-month (0.35), and 1-year (0.50), which is why I want to move them.

My credit union has a 5-year at 1.65, which is pretty comparable to some of the other online banks.

#7 dmaul1114   Banned Banned   24688 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:26 PM

Mine's in ING as well, hoping changes Capital One puts in place aren't major. I only have savings with them, so hopefully any changes in terms of fees will just be for the checking accounts.


ING's rates have already dropped a lot though, down to I think 0.75%. Was around 3% when I first signed up. So that really can't get much worse.

#8 shieryda   Opus Eponymous CAGiversary!   9249 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:29 PM

Damn. 3%? What kind of initial deposit did you need to get that rate?

#9 dohdough   Sum Dum Guy CAGiversary!   6393 Posts   Joined 5.8 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

Damn. 3%? What kind of initial deposit did you need to get that rate?

That was the rate like 6 years ago. It got as high as 6% since I've had my account from maybe 2004?

#10 dmaul1114   Banned Banned   24688 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 09:44 PM

Yeah, that was just where the rates where 5 years ago or whenever I started. Was higher than that further back when they first started as dohdough note.

#11 mtxbass1   This space for rent. CAGiversary!   11092 Posts   Joined 11.4 Years Ago  

Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:21 PM

Here are some current rates:

6-month: Ally - 0.74%
1-year: Ally - 1.04%

I currently have 6-month (0.35), and 1-year (0.50), which is why I want to move them.

My credit union has a 5-year at 1.65, which is pretty comparable to some of the other online banks.


Those rates are terrible, plus Ally is an awful bank. I will never give GMAC any of my money personally.

You can get more than that from just having an online savings account. ING, Schwab, SmartyPig, etc all pay around (or higher) than that.

How soon do you need access to this money? If the answer is 12 months or longer, you might want to consider I-Bonds. They pay around 2.2% or so and are backed fully by the government. You cannot withdraw the money in the first year however.



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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:21 PM

You'll do better in a liquid Mutual Fund or most Bonds. Municipal Bonds are pretty attractive too. Depending on how much you can put in, you can find 5yr bonds in the high 3's and low 4's for $5k. Penalties for early withdrawl but as long as you're in for 50% of the term you'll still profit.

In the end, your best bet right now is blue chips with a decent dividend. Microsoft is affordable and attractive around $28 per share at the moment with a 3.3% dividend (currently $0.92 per share per year paid quarterly [divide $0.92 by 4]). Plus, Windows 8 means OS upgrades will be happening which leads to a steady income stream and who knows, surface might actually work. Granted your dividend income stream will be limited to how many shares you can purchase but it's taxed at 15% instead of CDs and Money Markets which are taxed at income rates so there's a 2nd advantage.
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#13 shieryda   Opus Eponymous CAGiversary!   9249 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:15 PM

ING only has an APY of 0.75%. Am I missing something about this site?

#14 dmaul1114   Banned Banned   24688 Posts   Joined 10.3 Years Ago  

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:20 PM

Nope, used to be a lot higher as noted above.

Still better than most local or chain banks where you're lucky to get 0.1% these days though.

There's just not really many good, no risk ways to make a return right now. Best to just get a savings account for a nest egg (emergency found, house down payment etc.) and put the rest in your retirement accounts, kid's college funds and other long term things these days unless your an investor type and up for researching and buying individual stocks etc.

Bonds are another option posted above though.

#15 shieryda   Opus Eponymous CAGiversary!   9249 Posts   Joined 10.8 Years Ago  

Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

I have a 403b through ING, so I really just need to do something with the Credit Union accounts. Might call ING about a savings account, though, and also research the mutual bonds. I'm not much of a risk-taker.

Thanks, everyone.

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:42 PM

I have to agree with nasum, invest it in a trusted company with a good dividend. Won't be a huge return, but it will be better than something like a savings account.
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