80GB MGS PS3 Has The 65nm Cell (Pics)

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soonerdoctemp

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I did a search and haven't seen this discussed. Now that these are in everyone's hot little hands, have we figured out if these are the older 90nm processors that were used with the Motorstorm bundle or are these the 65nm chips being used in the 40GB units? Really want a unit quieter than my 60GB....
 
Let me say, probably not.

From what I'm aware of, the MGS4 80GB bundle is NOT new. It's basically the MotorStorm 80GB PS3, which either didn't make it to retailers (sitting at a factory), or pulled from store shelves to un-bundle it. Sony stopped production of the 80GB last year, and is ONLY making the 40GB right now. That is a big reason why the ultra limited edition PS3, along with the MGS4 bundles in Japan and Europe, were 40GB. Once the 80GB MGS4 bundles are gone from retailers, there's a slight chance we may never see them again.

I'll be 100% shocked if it's 65nm, since it's really just the old MotorStorm PS3.
 
its probably not since its really loud and was blowing hot air right off the bat when i set mine up last night.
 
TMK,

I thought I read somewhere that the metal gear bundles were not just painted 80gb PS3's... so is your assumption that they actually recased the units then?

Seriously.
 
[quote name='Snake2715']TMK,

I thought I read somewhere that the metal gear bundles were not just painted 80gb PS3's... so is your assumption that they actually recased the units then?

Seriously.[/QUOTE]
The Metal Gear Gunmetal PS3, which is 40GB, is probably brand new, since Sony still makes the 40GB.

The 80GB PS3 for the Metal Gear Solid 4 bundles (which have a DS3, MGS4 Regular), those are older 80GB consoles (from last year). They were never repainted. They are just the same 80GB consoles, in a different box containing a different game.

80GB has stopped development since last year.
 
[quote name='HuBu']its probably not since its really loud and was blowing hot air right off the bat when i set mine up last night.[/QUOTE]

Is it possible that yours is faulty? Mine is as quiet as a mouse.
 
The instruction manual says power consumption is 380W for the new 80GB, which is the same as the 20GB, 60GB, and the previous 80GB. So unless the manual is wrong, the new bundle has the 90nm cell.
 
[quote name='DetroitSportsFan']The instruction manual says power consumption is 380W for the new 80GB, which is the same as the 20GB, 60GB, and the previous 80GB. So unless the manual is wrong, the new bundle has the 90nm cell.[/quote]

Well, that blows goats. I have yet to set mine up but is the power consumption rating (usually found on the back/bottom of systems) the thing to go by?
 
With all of the questions regarding the new 80GB MGS PS3 and what cell processor it has, I performed a test.

I took my new Monster PRO3500 power conditioner, and took turns connecting my 20GB PS3 which has the 90nm cell, and my new 80GB MGS PS3. Each time I got a reading, the PS3 was the only component connected to the power conditioner.

Let me make it clear that I'm not an electricity expert, I just wanted to see if one consumes more power than the other.

First was the 20GB PS3. After turning on the PS3 and letting it run for approximately 5 minutes, the power conditioner indicated a peak amperage of 1.6. Picture:

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Next was the 80GB PS3. After turning on the PS3 and letting it run for approximately 5 minutes, the power conditioner indicated a peak amperage of 1.2. Picture:

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So based on my not so professional test, it appears that these new 80GB MGS PS3s have the 65nm cell.
 
Uh, the previous 20/60GB PS3 didn't run as hot as the 80GB, due to having less components. Not a good test.

Check the actual manufacturing date on the bottom.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Uh, the previous 20/60GB PS3 didn't run as hot as the 80GB, due to having less components. Not a good test.[/quote]

Huh? This new 80GB is running cooler than my 20GB, which is the opposite of what you wrote.

Check the actual manufacturing date on the bottom.
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April 2008.
 
I'm also confused by his post. Either way, measuring peak amperage seems a pretty good test to me, especially with such a clear difference.
 
[quote name='brighenne']I'm also confused by his post. Either way, measuring peak amperage seems a pretty good test to me, especially with such a clear difference.[/QUOTE]

TMK knows everything about that triple :roll:
 
same voltage with lower current means it's using less power. less power to run the PS3 hardware means more efficient technology within. that would mean something in the hardware is most likely different but it doesn't necessarily mean its the CPU...could be something else.

for example, the 20GB PS3 had the PS2 hardware chip in there. taking it out could probably account for this
 
Did you actually play during this time or was it sitting idle? They may also have done something to cut down on power usage while idle.
 
[quote name='wildnuts02']same voltage with lower current means it's using less power. less power to run the PS3 hardware means more efficient technology within. that would mean something in the hardware is most likely different but it doesn't necessarily mean its the CPU...could be something else.

for example, the 20GB PS3 had the PS2 hardware chip in there. taking it out could probably account for this[/quote]

Exactly. For all we know the BC part could have added resistance. Applying V=IR, your test is easily debunked on that mere fact alone.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']The 80GB PS3 for the Metal Gear Solid 4 bundles (which have a DS3, MGS4 Regular), those are older 80GB consoles (from last year). They were never repainted. They are just the same 80GB consoles, in a different box containing a different game.[/quote]Cite those sources, I have never heard this.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']did I stumble into a 360 model discussion?[/quote]

Lol. My thoughts exactly. The PS3 is pretty solid, even though some do fail, like mine did. Otherwise it's a very solid machine and you shouldn't worry about it. Also the one my brother got seems to be the same as my 60 gb, meaning pretty quiet and a little warm.
 
[quote name='QiG']Would it be possible to run folding@home for 5 minutes on each of your systems and do the test again?[/QUOTE]

I've got a 40 gig and the mgs4 80 gig and I will assure you the 40 gig runs much quieter. The 80 gig starts out nearly as quiet but after a while it gets pretty loud.
 
exactly right the 90nm chip machines (60 and 80 gigs) start out quiet. not too bad with most bluray movies. but if you watch a regular dvd with upconversion or some bluray movies these machines sound like a jet engine taking off halfway into the movie. you can clearly hear the fan during a quiet scene 20 feet away. i was going to get another 80 MGS4 pack for a second bluray player, but now i am going with the 40gig hoping it is a little quieter.
 
[quote name='soonerdoc']exactly right the 90nm chip machines (60 and 80 gigs) start out quiet. not too bad with most bluray movies. but if you watch a regular dvd with upconversion or some bluray movies these machines sound like a jet engine taking off halfway into the movie. you can clearly hear the fan during a quiet scene 20 feet away. i was going to get another 80 MGS4 pack for a second bluray player, but now i am going with the 40gig hoping it is a little quieter.[/QUOTE]

this is what i meant by my earlier post. we were watching a blu-ray movie and the system sounds like a jet engine.
 
they are the same as the motorstorm. They didnt design a whole new system for 1 bundle. the 80GB will be replaced by 120GB most likely and when that happens the CPU & GPU will go 65nm.

You cant compare it to a 20GB. you need to compare it to a motorstorm 80GB. the 20GB has a completely different motherboard.
 
[quote name='The Mana Knight']Uh, the previous 20/60GB PS3 didn't run as hot as the 80GB, due to having less components. Not a good test.

Check the actual manufacturing date on the bottom.[/quote]

My MGS4 80GB PS3 is stamped with a build date of "April 2008"
 
I had a 40gb right before I got the 80gb bundle. My 40gb stopped reading discs and best buy let me pay the difference to upgrade.

I can tell you it runs louder and is a lot hotter then the 40gb. I was so impressed by the 40gb when I got it. This one after playing several hours of MGS 4 is starting to get closer in sound to the 360. Ok I take it back, its still nowhere close to the 360 but a lot louder then the 40gb.
 
The MGS4 80 gig bundles are just old systems held back for this bundle, same 90nm chipset. Thats all. Its really a limited bundle because sony will likely announce at E3 that it is going to switch to a single sku and use software for PS2 so that all PS3 systems will be backwards compatable. E3 is going to be huge for sony this year.
 
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