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Seized Letter Outlines Al Qaeda Goals in Iraq
By Susan B. Glasser and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Wednesday, October 12, 2005; A13

Al Qaeda's top deputy urged the leader of his Iraq branch in July to prepare for the inevitable U.S. withdrawal by carrying out political as well as military actions, and he lectured him that he risked being shunned by an Islamic world angered over his gruesome and not "palatable" killings of fellow Muslims, according to an intercepted letter released yesterday by the U.S. government.

The 6,000-word letter from Osama bin Laden's chief lieutenant, Ayman Zawahiri, to Iraqi insurgent leader Abu Musab Zarqawi amounts to a detailed portrait of al Qaeda's long-term goals in Iraq and the Middle East, and includes a striking critique of how Zarqawi has gone about waging his war against not only U.S. troops but also Iraqi civilians. The letter was posted yesterday on the Web site of Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte -- http://www.dni.gov/ -- after senior intelligence officials released excerpts of it last week.

Invoking the specter of the United States abruptly abandoning Iraq as it did to Vietnam, Zawahiri counseled immediate political action: "We must take the initiative and impose a fait accompli upon our enemies, instead of the enemy imposing one on us."

The missive also suggests the degree to which al Qaeda's leadership remains eager to assert its prerogatives with Zarqawi, who has become the increasingly public face of the movement when Zawahiri and bin Laden are in hiding. Although the letter does not contain a direct reference to Zarqawi until a cryptic greeting to him at the end, a senior intelligence official who briefed reporters on the condition of anonymity said "it's absolutely certain" it was meant for Zarqawi, declining to elaborate on how U.S. officials made that conclusion. The letter was dated July 9, but the official would not say whether it had been sent. "We obtained it in the course of counterterrorism operations in Iraq," he said.

Throughout, Zawahiri -- the Egyptian doctor who fused his own Islamic movement with bin Laden's al Qaeda in the late 1990s and is believed to operate now as the group's top commander -- comes across as a strategist trying to rein in a guerrilla operating at odds with the movement's political goals. The official said that in its repeated criticism of Zarqawi, the letter also amounts to a reproof from "an al Qaeda elder to an occasionally hotheaded field commander."

"He comes down like a ton of bricks on what has happened tactically," the official said.

"This is not a rant. It is more chilling in a sense because it's so well-argued, clean and calm," the official added. "There's a high political content. Zawahiri calls for political action equivalent to military action."

Zarqawi has been high on the list of most wanted insurgents since last year after he pledged allegiance to bin Laden, but in recent months U.S. military commanders have given even greater urgency to disrupting his network of foreign fighters and Iraqi supporters. The network is still thought to constitute only a fraction of the Iraqi insurgency in numbers, but it is credited with carrying out a disproportionately large share of the violence, as a result of suicide bombings often aimed at Shiite civilians to foment sectarian strife.

But Zawahiri urged Zarqawi in the letter to change that formula and refocus on politics. When the United States leaves, al Qaeda must be ready to claim as much territory politically in the inevitable void that will arise, he writes. Zawahiri called that stage the setting up of an "emirate," in as much of Sunni-dominated Iraq as possible, to be followed by the longer-term goal of a "caliphate," reuniting the historical Islamic empire centered in modern-day Egypt, Lebanon and Israel.

Zawahiri also questions Zarqawi's targeting of Iraqi Shiites, telling him bluntly that the "majority of Muslims don't comprehend this" and wondering whether such targeting is a "wise decision" given the need to wage war against the United States and the current Iraqi government. And even if Shiite leaders should be targeted, Zawahiri asks, "why were there attacks on ordinary Shia?"

He also told Zarqawi that fellow Muslims "will never find palatable" the televised scenes of hostage beheadings that have earned Zarqawi the sobriquet "sheik of the slaughterers." among like-minded fighters. In the media battle "for the hearts and minds" of the Islamic world, Zawahiri said, such tactics will not work.

Zawahiri has spoken before about the broad plans of the al Qaeda movement. In a book smuggled out of Afghanistan in December 2001, Zawahiri said the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks "would be nothing more than disturbing acts" if they "do not serve the ultimate goal of establishing the Muslim nation in the heart of the Islamic world." In the 2001 volume, he said the first goal should be to strike Americans and Jews "in our Muslim countries."

In the new letter, Zawahiri said the Muslim masses "do not rally except against an outside occupying enemy, especially if the enemy is firstly Jewish and secondly American."

In an unusual reverse, the letter asks Zarqawi to send money to al Qaeda, saying many of its "lines have been cut off," and that "we'll be very grateful to you" for financial help.

Staff writer Bradley Graham contributed to this report.

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Now, part II!

By KATHERINE SHRADER
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

In a letter to his top deputy in Iraq, al-Qaida's No. 2 leader said the United States "ran and left their agents" in Vietnam and the jihadists must have a plan ready to fill the void if the Americans suddenly leave Iraq.

"Things may develop faster than we imagine," Ayman al-Zawahri wrote in a letter to his top deputy in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. "The aftermath of the collapse of American power in Vietnam _ and how they ran and left their agents _ is noteworthy. ... We must be ready starting now."

Senior U.S. military commanders have said that Iraqi security forces are improving significantly and some U.S. forces could return home early next year. Yet skeptics have raised concerns about whether such statements simply let the insurgency know how long they must wait for the U.S. to leave.

In a letter taking up 13 typed pages in its English translation, al- Zawahri also recommended a four-stage expansion of the war that would take the fighting to neighboring Muslim countries.

"It has always been my belief that the victory of Islam will never take place until a Muslim state is established ... in the heart of the Islamic world," al-Zawahri wrote.

The letter laid out his long-term plan: expel the Americans from Iraq, establish an Islamic authority and take the war to Iraq's secular neighbors, including Lebanon, Jordan and Syria.

The final stage, al-Zawahri wrote, would be a clash with Israel, which he said was established to challenge "any new Islamic entity."

The letter is dated July 9, and was acquired during U.S. operations in Iraq. It was written in Arabic and translated by the U.S. government. The Pentagon briefed reporters last week on portions of the document, but the full text was not available until Tuesday.

In a statement, the National Intelligence Director's office said the letter "has not been edited in any way" and its contents were released only after it was clear no military or intelligence operations would be compromised.

House Intelligence Chairman Peter Hoekstra, R-Mich., said his committee is reviewing the letter, but he cautioned "against reading too much into a single source of intelligence."

In his letter, al-Zawahri, a Sunni, devoted significant attention to al-Zarqawi's attempts to start a civil war with the rival Muslim Shiite sect, the majority that now dominates the new Iraqi government. Ultimately, al-Zawahri concluded that violence, particularly against Shiite mosques, only raises questions among Muslims.

"This matter won't be acceptable to the Muslim populace however much you have tried to explain it, and aversion to this will continue," he wrote.

Al-Zawahri was also critical of the Taliban, which was toppled in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, because, he said, they did not have the representation of the Afghan people. He said students of the Taliban retreated to their tribes.

"Even the devout ones took the stance of spectator," al-Zawahri wrote.

Contrasting that, he saw fearlessness in battles waged in the Iraqi cities of Fallujah, Ramadi and Al Qaim.

At times, the letter got personal. Al-Zawahri said he tasted the bitterness of America's brutality, noting that his "favorite wife's chest was crushed by a concrete ceiling" during an apparent U.S. attack. His daughter died of a cerebral hemorrhage.

To this day, he wrote, he did not know the location of their graves.

The letter then switches to the court of public opinion.

"More than half of this battle is taking place in the battlefield of the media," he wrote. "We are in a media battle in a race for the hearts and minds of our umma," or community of Muslims, he wrote.

The line is an apparent reference to a phrase _ "hearts and minds" _ often used by President Bush.

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Read the full letter in English or Arabic on the national intelligence director's Web site: http://www.dni.gov/release_letter_101105.html

Wow, and to think no one needs to file a FOIA lawsuit. So many people on the American left must be so proud. Could it be any clearer whose side the cut and run crowd is on now?
 
You're an idiot if you let your enemy dictate your positions. You give them that much power and they'll destroy you every time.

Though, it seems Zawahiri understands something about muslims that you do not:

Zawahiri also questions Zarqawi's targeting of Iraqi Shiites, telling him bluntly that the "majority of Muslims don't comprehend this" and wondering whether such targeting is a "wise decision" given the need to wage war against the United States and the current Iraqi government. And even if Shiite leaders should be targeted, Zawahiri asks, "why were there attacks on ordinary Shia?"

He also told Zarqawi that fellow Muslims "will never find palatable" the televised scenes of hostage beheadings that have earned Zarqawi the sobriquet "sheik of the slaughterers." among like-minded fighters. In the media battle "for the hearts and minds" of the Islamic world, Zawahiri said, such tactics will not work..........

In his letter, al-Zawahri, a Sunni, devoted significant attention to al-Zarqawi's attempts to start a civil war with the rival Muslim Shiite sect, the majority that now dominates the new Iraqi government. Ultimately, al-Zawahri concluded that violence, particularly against Shiite mosques, only raises questions among Muslims.

"This matter won't be acceptable to the Muslim populace however much you have tried to explain it, and aversion to this will continue," he wrote.

Al-Zawahri was also critical of the Taliban, which was toppled in the 2001 U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan, because, he said, they did not have the representation of the Afghan people. He said students of the Taliban retreated to their tribes.

"Even the devout ones took the stance of spectator," al-Zawahri wrote.
 
You're right. You are an idiot if you let the enemy dictate your positions to you.

Unfortunately many Democrats and their supporters are letting the enemy dictate their position to us.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']You're right. You are an idiot if you let the enemy dictate your positions to you.

Unfortunately many Democrats and their supporters are letting the enemy dictate their position to us.[/QUOTE]

So the solution is clearly evident? Prolonged and indefininte occupation of Iraq til muslims love us (or someone else is elected to office and pulls the troops out)?

I'm sure that's the solution, because we all know that Iraq has no chance whatsoever of sustaining itself for any length of time w/o American intervention.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']So the solution is clearly evident? Prolonged and indefininte occupation of Iraq til muslims love us (or someone else is elected to office and pulls the troops out)?

I'm sure that's the solution, because we all know that Iraq has no chance whatsoever of sustaining itself for any length of time w/o American intervention.[/QUOTE]

I think we need to put our soldiers at risk. We can't use heavy handed tactics, if that means a few thousand more soldiers dying, then so be it. They're the weapons of our country, and when we invade a country we, by definition, put them on the line. There was no draft, so it's not like you can say they didn't willingly sign up. If we want to continue holding the belief that we can just smash the rebellion, we're never going to be able to leave with a stable iraq in place. Making it so that there is a clearer distinction of good and bad, that we are really there as the benevolent occupier, we need to let them make every decision (meaning they have 100% full authority of their resources), and to stop all heavy handed tactics. Right now it's up to the more radical elements of the insurgent groups to screw up and alienate the population, we should make that apparent on our own terms, by becoming a much more benevolent force in Iraq.
 
here's an idea. just kill everyone in the damn country including the women and children so they can never reproduce and take revenge. while we're at it, kill everyone in north korea and china. we have power, why not use it to save ourselves. screw the world, it's their own fault and stupidity for not being as great as us.

yeah i'm being sarcastic.
 
Oh interesting, well seeing as the government has the authority to do whatever it is they feel like how about declaring a civil war against the LIBS, how about roundin' em all up in concentration camps as well and declare them terrorist cells? HYUCK, SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PLAN.


This is pathetic, are you really going to shun the greater portion of the american peoples because of this?


HAH on you
 
Shun them? Yes. Never trust them? Yes. Vote for people supporting this position? No. Value their opinions, input and position on debate? No fucking way.

Jail them? Never.
 
I'm still looking for the words "final victory" as to figure out the disconnect between the articles and the thread titles. Oh well, I'm accustomed to hyperbole and disconnect when it comes to PAD.

This war is unacceptable to a large majority of the country at this point, PAD. If you want to criticize American dissent, you're ignoring a significant portion of the anti-war movement by focusing on "Democrats." Stop being so deliberately obtuse.

Lastly, there are Democrats such as myself that realize that the United States' involvement in Iraq (specifically in creating an anarchic state over there for the past 2.5 years) has led to its development as a 'terrorist state' (in the sense that terrorists now exist, recruit, train, and mobilize there currently). I recognize that, and I've not been in favor of "bringing our troops home" for quite some time. OTOH, I find it hard to support the war in Iraq, given the false pretenses for going there, the false notion of success (the very fact that we have caused more harm than good to ourselves by eliminating Hussein, the amazingly unforseen difficulties in trying to establish a democracy there, etc.), and the false notion that Iraq is directly related to al qaeda, Osama bin Laden, and the 9/11 attacks in New York. It's a strange sort of cognitive dissonance, I know; I've never supported the war, and yet I want the troops to remain there because *as a result of our invasion* terrorists and insurgencies have come to be in Iraq.
 
Isn't it strange how the letter indicates that the 'correct' position for the US in Iraq, the letter that Al Qaeda fears the most, is exactly the one that Bush proposes? Combine that with the rather bizzare Vietnam reference that sounds strangely like a NeoCon who still hasn't gotten over a 30+ year old defeat...

Say, what's that?


Hmm, experts beginning to come out suggesting that the letter is fake, little more than a propoganda piece for the Bush administration. What a surprise. Everyone knows that the Bush administration would NEVER use misinformation to promote its agenda, especially not with an important topic such as war.
 
To be honest, I thought that Al-Qaeda would relish the thought of US troops staying in Iraq.

A) Adds credence to their argument that the US is an imperialst government bent on conquest of Muslim countries
B) Gives them ample non-muslim targets to blow up and kill
C) Keeps an American presence closer to home, so that they can disrupt the presence easier (as opposed to making clandestine operations in the US).
 
[quote name='Drocket']Isn't it strange how the letter indicates that the 'correct' position for the US in Iraq, the letter that Al Qaeda fears the most, is exactly the one that Bush proposes? Combine that with the rather bizzare Vietnam reference that sounds strangely like a NeoCon who still hasn't gotten over a 30+ year old defeat...

Say, what's that?



Hmm, experts beginning to come out suggesting that the letter is fake, little more than a propoganda piece for the Bush administration. What a surprise. Everyone knows that the Bush administration would NEVER use misinformation to promote its agenda, especially not with an important topic such as war.[/QUOTE]

pwned.
 
This al-Queda letter kind of makes you wish we never invaded Iraq in the first place, huh, PAD?

I mean, al-Queda didn't have any kind of foothold there until we blundered in, took over the joint and then failed to install proper security.

Seems to me al-Queda at this point owes much of its continued life to the American Right and its Iraq folly. If we'd concentrated on apprehending folks like, say, Osama bin Laden, rather than attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, maybe the terrorist network would be crippled rather than flourishing.
 
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