An American Carol: "Meet the Spartans" meets FOX News

[quote name='DarkSageRK']Seems like fun. I'll watch it.[/quote]

This. Though frankly your title is misleading. Looks more like a spoof of Michael Moore, not Fox News.
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']This. Though frankly your title is misleading. Looks more like a spoof of Michael Moore, not Fox News.[/QUOTE]

I think what he means is it is a spoof movie like Meet the Spartans with a Fox News twist/bias.
 
This movie is going to be completely shit. Maybe even worse than the _____ Movies because this is Zucker being almost completely straight about his beliefs.

Somebody posted this at a different forum and I couldn't believe it.

I'm holding a palm card that was just given out at the Heritage Foundation to promote the new David Zucker film An American Carol. If I fill out the card, I can take one of four pledges, such as "Yes, I will send the trailer to my contacts" and "Yes, I want to be AN AMERICAN CAROLER or THEATER CAPTAIN." It's an induction to a movement, as the slogan on the card makes clear: "Finally, a movie for us."

By "us," of course, the filmmakers and promoters mean conservatives. Executive producer Myrna Sokoloff has put together a "pro-soldier, support our troops, pro-America" comedy, which Stephen Hayes previews in the new Weekly Standard. In it, filmmaker Michael Malone (Kevin "brother of Chris" Farley) and his organization MoveAlong.org are trying to repeal the Fourth of July when three angels—the Angel of Death, George S. Patton, and George Washington—come to him and convince him to change his ways.

The crowd at Heritage got to see a trailer and a few minutes of clips 24 hours before either of them will be generally released. I'm a huge fan of the Zucker-Leslie Nielsen canon, and not much of a fan of Zucker's ads for Republicans. The footage we saw floated somewhere in the middle of those two projects, quality-wise. Fat-assed Malone travels to Cuba, pledges to destroy America, and takes advantage of the invisibility granted by ghost status by grabbing a protestor's boobs. Bill O'Reilly appears out of nowhere to slap him. "I just like doing that," he says. Terrorists led by everybody's favorite pockmarked tough guy Robert Davi bitch that they're low on suicide bombers ("All the good ones are gone!") and all answer to the name Mohammed. In a scene that Sokoloff described, but didn't bring, Patton and his soldiers storm a courthouse that's about to remove the Ten Commandments and start opening fire on the people trying to stop them. "You can't shoot these people!" Malone says. "They're not people!" says Patton. "They're the ACLU!" At this point we see that the ACLU members are unkillable George Romero zombies.

Details about the movie were kept secret, on purpose, until this month. In February, it was reported that Kelsey Grammer would be Scrooge in the new movie. He's actually playing the ghost of George Patton, and Jon Voight is playing George Washington. In a clip we saw, Washington takes Malone to St. Paul's Cathedral to lecture him on freedom of religion and "freedom of speech, which you abuse." Malone is grossed out by dust in the priest's box, so the doors open onto the smoldering ruins of the World Trade Center. "This is the dust of 3000 innocent human beings!" bellows Washington. Malone whimpers that he's just making movies. Washington won't have it. "Is that what you plan to say on Judgment Day?"

"That scene," said Sokoloff, "is hard to put in a comedy. But we had to do it."

The whole meeting had the tone of a FARC strategy session more than a fun publicity junket. This movie isn't just going to sell tickets (it'll open in 2000 theaters), it's going to liberate Hollywood's Republican untouchables and open the floodgates to more conservative films. "Last year you saw a bunch of anti-military movies like Redacted and In the Valley of Elah," Sokoloff said. "All of them had big stars, and, thank God, they bombed. America didn’t want to see that stuff on screen. We have to show up to a movie that has our values. If this succeeds, if could change everything."

Sokoloff did worry about the last political comedy to hit theaters, Swing Vote. "People just didn't want to see something about the election," she mused. Is it a bad sign that both of the fictional politicians in that film, Dennis Hopper and Kelsey Grammer, are back in this? Probably not, actually. Swing Vote tried to tell a sappy Capra story divorced from real-world politics. This movie grabs the culture war by both horns and starts riding and hollering.
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http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128061.html

Are you fucking kidding me (about the bolded part)?
 
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[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']I think what he means is it is a spoof movie like Meet the Spartans with a Fox News twist/bias.[/quote]

So what, then, most movies have a CNN bias? sheesh.

OK, sorry, didn't realize this was a FAUX NEWS M I RITE LOL fest.

(If this is going to be "republican viewpoint is double plus ungood" thread I'm'a request a mod move it to vs. mode, where it belongs.)
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']So what, then, most movies have a CNN bias? sheesh.

OK, sorry, didn't realize this was a FAUX NEWS M I RITE LOL fest.

(If this is going to be "republican viewpoint is double plus ungood" thread I'm'a request a mod move it to vs. mode, where it belongs.)[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? Is there really any doubt what slant this movie has?
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']Are you serious? Is there really any doubt what slant this movie has?[/QUOTE]

Come on, are you saying a movie that's being promoted with things like "Finally, a movie for us." and "Last year you saw a bunch of anti-military movies like Redacted and In the Valley of Elah. All of them had big stars, and, thank God, they bombed. America didn’t want to see that stuff on screen. We have to show up to a movie that has our values." has a slant or agenda?

This is going to be a fair and balanced laugh riot straight from the no-spin zone!
 
Is there any doubt at all at how hard this will completely blow?

all movies in this Pop culture parody/ spoof genre need to stop completely. NOBODY should make them. They are awful and require ZERO talent and creativity to make. It's disgusting that films like these actually do well at the B.O.
 
[quote name='Sporadic']Come on, are you saying a movie that's being promoted with things like "Finally, a movie for us." and "Last year you saw a bunch of anti-military movies like Redacted and In the Valley of Elah. All of them had big stars, and, thank God, they bombed. America didn’t want to see that stuff on screen. We have to show up to a movie that has our values." has a slant or agenda?

This is going to be a fair and balanced laugh riot straight from the no-spin zone![/quote]


Keep it "pithy", Sporadic, or else I'll tickle you with my falafel. ;)
 
Reality's Fringe;4752179 said:
I liked Airplane and Naked Gun. I mean, this could blow, but I liked those two.
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That's true, but poor logic.

I mean, "Get Your Wings" and "Toys in the Attic" are classic albums from the 1970's, but Aerosmith has totally stunk since...well, then.
 
I blame Iron Clad's bitchiness.

I didn't put this in the vs forum because I wanted to have a conversation about a bad, bad, bad movie, not about whether or not Republican "all brown people are named Mohammed" stereotypes equal comedy.

Because it doesn't.
 
Why do Conservatives work so hard to prove how ridiculously stupid and lets face it insane they are?

As if the last decade isn't proof enough.
 
[quote name='Mr Unoriginal']Are you serious? Is there really any doubt what slant this movie has?[/quote]

Are you serious? This really MATTERS?

No, really. Sometimes a movie is just a movie. Without more on it, I can't even say that it purports to be truth, unlike say, a Michael Moore joint. Moore's flicks don't bother most people; why should knickers get twisted over this? Is it because they shit on an icon of your political worldview, or something? Is Moore your uncle?

If you don't like it, don't go see it. It'll die on its own. Hell, Myke's posting about it here has already brought more eyes on it -- I'd never have noticed it otherwise. Now? Yeah, probably another guy renting the DVD. See how it works? The more upset you get, the more you go on message boards decrying its existence, the more people will know about it.
 
[quote name='Iron Clad Burrito']Are you serious? This really MATTERS?[/QUOTE]

Enough for you to bitch to a mod about it apparently. But anyway yes it does really matter because I for one am fucking sick of these lunatics constantly calling others traitors etc. It is not as if they can even hide behind calling satire because A) this is what cons tend to actually believe and B) The makers admit they aren't doing the most galling parts for laughs.
 
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[quote name='Liquid 2']Shut the fuck up, Msut. Go troll somewhere else. :whistle2:|

Seriously, no one finds your bullshit entertaining.[/QUOTE]


What trolling?

You think I would make excuses if a liberal made a pos movie using the thousands dead at the WTC and claim it was ok because after all it made fun of someone I didn't like?

Get a clue you Toad.
 
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[quote name='Liquid 2']Troll.[/QUOTE]

Lovely.

When you got nothing to say because reality is against you, find something unequivocally false and silly then repeat it ad nauseum. You certainly have been working out of your conservative playbook.
 
[quote name='joe2187']Is there any doubt at all at how hard this will completely blow?

all movies in this Pop culture parody/ spoof genre need to stop completely. NOBODY should make them. They are awful and require ZERO talent and creativity to make. It's disgusting that films like these actually do well at the B.O.[/quote]

Maybe you haven't seen examples of good ones... Young Frankenstein, Spaceballs, Airplane, shit, I thought the first Scary Movie was hilarious...

There's more awful ones than good ones, but when they hit the mark, they are brilliant.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Lovely.

When you got nothing to say because reality is against you, find something unequivocally false and silly then repeat it ad nauseum. You certainly have been working out of your conservative playbook.[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I'm talking about from you.

Troll.


[quote name='DestriVega']Maybe you haven't seen examples of good ones... Young Frankenstein, Spaceballs, Airplane, shit, I thought the first Scary Movie was hilarious...

There's more awful ones than good ones, but when they hit the mark, they are brilliant. [/QUOTE]Hollywood satire is dead.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Troll.[/QUOTE]

It is nice to see how quickly Cons can take a word they only vaguely understand, strip it of all meaning and then proceed to use it against their perceived enemies.

Just like the way they use Commie or Traitor.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Hollywood satire is dead.[/QUOTE]

I'm tempted to say I agree, but maybe it's an age (well, in your case, generation ;)) gap.

I thought about it as I've seen a few commercials for the movie "College." Every generation has the same kinds of films repeated. College is American Pie; College is Animal House. Is it better or worse? I don't know; I think Animal House is a classic, but it may just not suit other people's fancy.

Whatever teenager romance movies are the same as any John Hughes movie. Or are they? IMO, Huges' movies as well as the teenage heartthrob Christian Slater movies (Pump Up the Volume and Heathers, for instance) are crucial film to me. Would they resonate with kids today?

Mel Brooks' early works are phenomenal, while I think he started to falter with "Spaceballs" and did little good after that. Many might agree with me, but it's still opinion.

Trust me, it hurts to try to think that "Epic Movie," or "Superhero Movie," or "Disaster Movie" fit in here. I don't want to think they do. But perhaps they do indeed.

Yikes.
 
[quote name='Msut77']It is nice to see how Cons take a word they only vaguely understand, strip it of all meaning and then proceed to use it against their perceived enemies.

Just like the way they use Commie or Traitor.[/QUOTE]

Still trolling, even while trying to defend yourself.

Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it?

Troll.
 
[quote name='Liquid 2']Still trolling, even while trying to defend yourself.[/QUOTE]

You can repeat your falsehoods all you like, it is not going to change the fact that you are a failure of a human being.

You are not even pretending to defend your ridiculous ravings and for obvious reasons.
 
[quote name='DestroVega']Maybe you haven't seen examples of good ones... Young Frankenstein, Spaceballs, Airplane, shit, I thought the first Scary Movie was hilarious...

There's more awful ones than good ones, but when they hit the mark, they are brilliant.[/quote]

Yes.

[quote name='Liquid 2']

Hollywood satire is dead.[/quote]

Yes.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I'm tempted to say I agree, but maybe it's an age (well, in your case, generation ) gap.

I thought about it as I've seen a few commercials for the movie "College." Every generation has the same kinds of films repeated. College is American Pie; College is Animal House. Is it better or worse? I don't know; I think Animal House is a classic, but it may just not suit other people's fancy.

Whatever teenager romance movies are the same as any John Hughes movie. Or are they? IMO, Huges' movies as well as the teenage heartthrob Christian Slater movies (Pump Up the Volume and Heathers, for instance) are crucial film to me. Would they resonate with kids today?

Mel Brooks' early works are phenomenal, while I think he started to falter with "Spaceballs" and did little good after that. Many might agree with me, but it's still opinion.

Trust me, it hurts to try to think that "Epic Movie," or "Superhero Movie," or "Disaster Movie" fit in here. I don't want to think they do. But perhaps they do indeed.

Yikes.[/QUOTE]Generation gap, indeed. I haven't even heard of most of what you referenced. :lol:


But having seen Spaceballs and Young Frankenstein, I really have no hope for Hollywood satire when I look at the current batch, which, as much as I hate to put in the same category, I think do belong there.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']That's true, but poor logic.

I mean, "Get Your Wings" and "Toys in the Attic" are classic albums from the 1970's, but Aerosmith has totally stunk since...well, then.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I like to call it "cautious optimism" .

And for the record, Aerosmith has ALWAYS sucked.
 
This will go over about as well as the 'Half hour news hour'. I'm going to go out on a limb and say conservatives suck a humor.

The thing is, there probably could have been a clever satire given the subject but everything in the trailer was pure shit.
 
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