Anybody interested in the new tv series Revolution?

Looks cool but being on NBC, where many, many shows of this basic genre have tried and failed miserably, I will be very surprised to see it last a full season.
 
[quote name='kodave']Its on NBC. If they let it survive season 1 I'll catch up.[/QUOTE]

yep..they killed "the Event" when the season finale was like "whoa...now you don't see that everyday!"
 
[quote name='kodave']Its on NBC. If they let it survive season 1 I'll catch up.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. In fact, unless it is on HBO I try to not watch any serialized shows until there is more than a season to catch up on. I've been burned one too many times.
 
I saw the preview/trailer for the show a few days ago. Looks interesting, but did not like whatever that device is that powers up electronics. I'd much rather have it without any kind of item like that.
 
[quote name='camoor']Trying to figure out why, if electricity goes out, people go back to using swords and crossbows.

You'd have to be an idiot not to carry a gun.[/QUOTE]


seems like they do have guns but after 15 years i guess maybe most of the store bought stuff would be used up and how many people really know how to make it from scratch? im also worried the show could end up cancelled before it gets legs but the concept is interesting.

you have to figure the guy with the dot it yourself books has the power but i also wonder about nuclear reactors. even powerless wouldnt they blow up eventually? alot of the dams would fall apart too since theyd be too big to take care of without technology.

it would also be interesting if the show jumps around from country to country showing how they are dealing with the total blackout. kinda give you that world war z perspective.
 
[quote name='lokizz']seems like they do have guns but after 15 years i guess maybe most of the store bought stuff would be used up and how many people really know how to make it from scratch? im also worried the show could end up cancelled before it gets legs but the concept is interesting.[/QUOTE]

In today's America they estimate there are two guns for every citizen.

And check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGVianQJsmQ

Deaf guy living in a primitive hut, making pistols for $50.

If warlords were the new powerbrokers their henchmen would be armed to the teeth.
 
Looks interesting, but I bet it's going to have the verve of some Terra Nova-ish garbage before the close of first season. I'll do like the rest of the cautiously optimistic doubters and wait for a complete season.

It reminds of the post-pandemic special the History channel recently aired (which, in a shocking turn of events lacked Bigfoot, aliens, and haggling).

Also . . . Why was that commercial airliner in a flat spin? Did it fly through Iceman's jetwash?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r97xoSOEjM&feature=PlayList&p=74FC82D3BC97E5CE&index=0&playnext=1
 
[quote name='camoor']Trying to figure out why, if electricity goes out, people go back to using swords and crossbows.

You'd have to be an idiot not to carry a gun.[/QUOTE]


Ammunition would become difficult to find after 10+ years. Riots and looting would have caused a lot of people to use up their supply for defense, plus even more would be used up because most people would turn to hunting on a regular basis (no electricity, can't easily preserve meat in a freezer) before they settled somewhere and started farming. Having lots of firearms is great, but without bullets they are useless.

Crossbow has the advantage of being just as lethal as a firearm, yet the arrow can be retrieved and reused many times. Additionally, it's practically a silent weapon so it wouldn't draw unwanted attention from other people in the area like a pistol, rifle, or shotgun would.
 
[quote name='WhipSmartBanky']Not to mention hoarding. I bet there will be some sort of "upper echelon" that controls firearms and ammo.[/QUOTE]


maybe by section or area, youd think any place with a decent military presence would still probably operate under some kind or version of present day laws so they'd probably regulate guns but head down south and im sure there would be alot of militias and communities that band together to keep themselves and their guns, food, families safe.

itd be interesting to see how japan would handle things. would they just revert to a newer feudal system or would they crumble due to their love and use of technology.
 
[quote name='blindinglights']Ammunition would become difficult to find after 10+ years. Riots and looting would have caused a lot of people to use up their supply for defense, plus even more would be used up because most people would turn to hunting on a regular basis (no electricity, can't easily preserve meat in a freezer) before they settled somewhere and started farming. Having lots of firearms is great, but without bullets they are useless.

Crossbow has the advantage of being just as lethal as a firearm, yet the arrow can be retrieved and reused many times. Additionally, it's practically a silent weapon so it wouldn't draw unwanted attention from other people in the area like a pistol, rifle, or shotgun would.[/QUOTE]

Copious gunpowder existed centuries before electricity. According to the wiki it's pretty easy to make. I sincerely doubt that the prevailing warlords would stick a thumb up their collective asses for 10 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder#Manufacturing_technology
 
[quote name='lokizz']maybe by section or area, youd think any place with a decent military presence would still probably operate under some kind or version of present day laws so they'd probably regulate guns but head down south and im sure there would be alot of militias and communities that band together to keep themselves and their guns, food, families safe.

itd be interesting to see how japan would handle things. would they just revert to a newer feudal system or would they crumble due to their love and use of technology.[/QUOTE]

Yeah but in the show the warlord's henchmen are ordered to get the guy and they charge in with daggers. Come on.
 
Reminded my wife and I of Firefly. That being said, I probably won't watch it until the end of the series (that or the end of each season if it actually gets renewed).
 
[quote name='camoor']Copious gunpowder existed centuries before electricity. According to the wiki it's pretty easy to make. I sincerely doubt that the prevailing warlords would stick a thumb up their collective asses for 10 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder#Manufacturing_technology[/QUOTE]


I'm not saying that nobody would be capable of putting together a setup, but when you can't just type "how do I setup a reloading bench and make gunpowder" into Google and you might have to walk miles to a book store with the hope of finding a book on that kind of stuff, it probably wouldn't be as easy as you think. Add in having to scavenge specialty tools, equipment, chemical ingredients, etc. that could be miles and miles in all different directions. It would take some serious organization and motivation to configure such an operation.
 
[quote name='blindinglights']I'm not saying that nobody would be capable of putting together a setup, but when you can't just type "how do I setup a reloading bench and make gunpowder" into Google and you might have to walk miles to a book store with the hope of finding a book on that kind of stuff, it probably wouldn't be as easy as you think. Add in having to scavenge specialty tools, equipment, chemical ingredients, etc. that could be miles and miles in all different directions. It would take some serious organization and motivation to configure such an operation.[/QUOTE]

The knowledge would be easy, but depending on where you were I would imagine sourcing the components could be a challenge.

And as perdition points out, there is more then enough motivation to get the best guns. I doubt any warlord would give two shits about the electricity mystery until after he had stockpiled a shit-ton of assault rifles and ammo.
 
[quote name='camoor']Yeah but in the show the warlord's henchmen are ordered to get the guy and they charge in with daggers. Come on.[/QUOTE]


yeah the fight looked cool but i did shake my head that it came off a bit cheese. but when they first came into town for the man the guy got shot with a flintlock rifle i believe which if i remember correctly all you need is the gun , the metal ball and gunpowder.

shit now thats got me thinking did they get some of those from museums? they are loaded with old weapons how odd, and smart, would that be that someone decided to raid those places for older weapons, tech they could use when shit hit the fan.

im really interested in seeing what thy do with this and was it some kind of virus that shut it all down and if so wtf kind of virus could shut down everything. just hope they dont toss in aliens.
 
It's not a virus, it was planned for some reason, hence the little necklace drive thingie. It reminds me of the plot device in flashforward (everyone passes out except a select few that have the ring) except in this case only a select few have access to power.
 
[quote name='lokizz']yeah the fight looked cool but i did shake my head that it came off a bit cheese. but when they first came into town for the man the guy got shot with a flintlock rifle i believe which if i remember correctly all you need is the gun , the metal ball and gunpowder.

shit now thats got me thinking did they get some of those from museums? they are loaded with old weapons how odd, and smart, would that be that someone decided to raid those places for older weapons, tech they could use when shit hit the fan.

im really interested in seeing what thy do with this and was it some kind of virus that shut it all down and if so wtf kind of virus could shut down everything. just hope they dont toss in aliens.[/QUOTE]

I think the gunpowder would be the toughest component to come by - all you need to make a gun is the proper metal, an intense heat source, and a mold.

So using flintcock weapons would be stupid because, in comparison to modern guns and rifles, they are unreliable, the barrel gets dirty quickly, and being handmade they are difficult to fix. Plus if you need to load a musket ball every time and your opponent can just pop off 9 rounds, that is a huge disadvantage.
 
[quote name='camoor']I think the gunpowder would be the toughest component to come by - all you need to make a gun is the proper metal, an intense heat source, and a mold.[/QUOTE]


Gunpowder would be a problem and primers for the ammunition would probably prove to be even more difficult.

When you're looking up this ammunition reloading stuff, most of the stuff you're seeing is probably 80-90% DIY. Making your own ammunition from the ground up for a modern firearm in that type of end of the world scenario is going to be ridiculously difficult.

I can pretty much guarantee that if you were a warlord 15 years after the world suffered something like that, you'd have your underlings making arrows -- not ammunition. ;)
 
ok so technology wise where would they be then compared to earlier eras in history? all that new tech can be stripped and used in diff ways id think. damn funny thought i hope they show Amish people in this since many of them stick to the old ways theyd be in a good place to survive.
 
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