Backing U.S in Iraq put UK at risk/boosted recruitment and fund-raising for al Qaeda

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Backing U.S in Iraq put UK at risk, think tank says
By Paul Majendie

LONDON (Reuters) - An influential think-tank said on Monday that backing the United States in Iraq put Britain more at risk from terrorist attacks, an accusation forcefully rejected by Prime Minister Tony Blair's government.

Security experts said the Iraq war had boosted recruitment and fund-raising for al Qaeda, suspected of being behind London bombings on July 7 that killed 55 people.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=1&u=/nm/20050718/ts_nm/security_britain_dc
 
"Our strategy in the war on terror is based on a clear understanding of the enemy, and a clear assessment of our national interest." - Dick Cheney, July 2003

"Either we take the war to the terrorists and fight them where they are – at this moment in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere – or at some point we will have to fight them here at home." - Donald Rumsfeld, August 2003

"America is more secure. The world is safer." - George W. Bush, January 2004

"...we are making ourselves more secure, because we cannot fight the terrorists in New York; we've got to fight them out there." - Condoleezza Rice, February 2004

"The question is do we fight them over there - or do we fight them here. I choose to fight them over there." - Gen. Tommy Franks, September 2004

"The number of serious international terrorist incidents more than tripled last year, according to U.S. government figures, a sharp upswing in deadly attacks that the State Department has decided not to make public in its annual report on terrorism due to Congress this week." - The Washington Post, April 2005

"I think they're in the last throes, if you will, of the insurgency." - Dick Cheney, May 2005

"In total, for the year from the handover of sovereignty on June 28, 2004, until June 23, 2005, there were at least 479 car bombs, killing 2,174 people and wounding 5,520. ... Last month was the most violent for Iraqi civilians since the U.S.-led invasion to remove Saddam Hussein from power in March 2003." - Associated Press, June 2005

"There is only one course of action against them: to defeat them before they attack us at home." - George W. Bush, June 2005

"...the Iraq insurgency poses an international threat and may produce better-trained Islamic terrorists than the 1980s Afghanistan war that gave rise to Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda." - classified CIA report, June 2005

"This shows that president Bush is doing exactly the right thing, or they wouldn't be making these kinds of attacks." - CSPAN caller, July 2005

"There were nearly 3,200 terrorist attacks worldwide last year, the Bush Administration said yesterday, using a broader definition that increased fivefold the number of incidents that Washington had previously tallied for 2004." - The London Times, July 2005

Somebody wake me up when these people figure out what the hell they're doing.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/05/205.html
 
Tokyo, Japan
April 19, 1942
Reuters

Japanese recruitment was helped tremendously yesterday as the brigandanish raid on Imperial Japan's wartime capital by the Imperialist American B-25's in the so called "Doolittle Raid".

Despite the enemy's feeble attempt to strike fear into the hearts of the brave and noble Japanese people they have emboldened Japan's youth to fight them to the death and sign up for service in His Majesty's army, navy and air forces to avenge this cowardly act.

I'd love to see how long reporters would last like this in World War II before angry mobs came and hung them from street posts.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Tokyo, Japan
April 19, 1942
Reuters

Japanese recruitment was helped tremendously yesterday as the brigandanish raid on Imperial Japan's wartime capital by the Imperialist American B-25's in the so called "Doolittle Raid".

Despite the enemy's feeble attempt to strike fear into the hearts of the brave and noble Japanese people they have emboldened Japan's youth to fight them to the death and sign up for service in His Majesty's army, navy and air forces to avenge this cowardly act.

I'd love to see how long reporters would last like this in World War II before angry mobs came and hung them from street posts.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the difference rests in the fact that in WW2 we were trying to defeat a nation, and now we are trying to prevent more terrorist attacks and from terrorists gaining support.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']
I'd love to see how long reporters would last like this in World War II before angry mobs came and hung them from street posts.[/QUOTE]




Hang the dissenters who dont support the war to protect our freedoms !


Stupid fucker.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Did someone clone quackzilla? This guy is just as bright.

Hey dirt, I don't know what makes you so stupid but it sure does work well, :rofl:[/QUOTE]



I was just agreeing with you. I think those reporters who use their freedom to disagree with a war that you say is protecting our freedoms should be hanged for using their freedoms.

It makes perfect sense.

I mean how on earth can we protect these idiots freedoms if they wont stop using them ?
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Tokyo, Japan
April 19, 1942
Reuters

Japanese recruitment was helped tremendously yesterday as the brigandanish raid on Imperial Japan's wartime capital by the Imperialist American B-25's in the so called "Doolittle Raid".

Despite the enemy's feeble attempt to strike fear into the hearts of the brave and noble Japanese people they have emboldened Japan's youth to fight them to the death and sign up for service in His Majesty's army, navy and air forces to avenge this cowardly act.

I'd love to see how long reporters would last like this in World War II before angry mobs came and hung them from street posts.[/QUOTE]

It just shows how desperate they are that they go as far as ignoring the truth that it doesn't matter what we do Terrorists will find some form of propaganda to recruit with.

Terrorists have hated us for years! What part of that simple fact don't you dumb liberals understand?

Liberals are retarded in thinking that a don't offend approach will somehow win the war on terror even though America has been hated and attacked for years way before the Iraq war. Now the dumb liberals are stupid enough to think that finally taking up arms to fight these bastards will make things worse. IT DOESN'T!

There is nothing anyone can do short of complete submission or dying that will make terrorists happy. Why stupid liberals, after years of being hated and attacked, still can't see this is a testament to how retarded they and their ideals are.
 
[quote name='Scrubking']It just shows how desperate they are that they go as far as ignoring the truth that it doesn't matter what we do Terrorists will find some form of propaganda to recruit with.

Terrorists have hated us for years! What part of that simple fact don't you dumb liberals understand?

Liberals are retarded in thinking that a don't offend approach will somehow win the war on terror even though America has been hated and attacked for years way before the Iraq war. Now the dumb liberals are stupid enough to think that finally taking up arms to fight these bastards will make things worse. IT DOESN'T!

There is nothing anyone can do short of complete submission or dying that will make terrorists happy. Why stupid liberals, after years of being hated and attacked, still can't see this is a testament to how retarded they and their ideals are.[/QUOTE]

Was there something you were capable of bringing up as a coherent, rational refutation of the argument made in the OP, or are you just as content blathering about how stupid liberals are?

To think, all this time, you could be fighting in Iraq to make sure al qaeda doesn't strike again! :rofl:
 
PAD -stupid analogy. Japan is a country, a country isn't a cause for which one can recruit. Especially a large number of poeople outside of Japan. There is a difference, don't be a dumbass.

PAD "wants" you to have your freedoms..but he doesn't actually want you to use them.
 
Osama bin Laden himself said, shortly before the election, that if he wanted to attack "freedom," his terrorists would have obliterated Switzerland fucking ages ago.

Is it mere coincidence, then, that they attacked Britain and Britain is part of the "couple of the willing"? Of course not, so stop you're internal dialogue because your simply lying to yourself.
 
[quote name='CheapyD']Security experts said the Iraq war had boosted recruitment and fund-raising for al Qaeda, suspected of being behind London bombings on July 7 that killed 55 people.[/QUOTE]

I wonder what these same security experts consider to be the fallout from our military offensive in Afghanistan. I assume that they did, in fact, somehow distinguish between our offensive in Afghanistan and our invasion (I don't know what else you can call the militant removal of a seated government by another country) of Iraq in this article?

If we were fighting to defeat Al Qaeda, and in doing so, spurred an increase in their ranks of those who hate America....well, that could be counted an unavoidable consequence of the struggle. However, if we--as I believe--have invaded Iraq and deposed Hussein's administration for reasons that have nothing to do with Al Qaeda (I am more prone to believe the Sept 11th commission's findings...or lack thereof, of any link between Hussein/Iraq and the 9/11 attacks...than President Bush's adamant proclamations that some relationship did exist) then we are swelling Al Qaeda's ranks with impressionable youth who resent our military aggression.

You have to wonder what the clerics who preach extremism SAY to these explosive-laden youths. Could anyone blame us for retaliating for the WTC and Pentagon attacks? Not easily. But could anyone blame us for invading Iraq and deposing Hussein simply because we wanted to? Easily.
 
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