Best Buy sale controversy, shenanigans, accusations, sex, lies, and videotape

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I'm making this thread to systematically organize the fallout associated with the sale. Here's a greatest hits list of things I saw at FW. I moved the post from the deal thread. So have fun, and spread the hate like a helping of infected peanut butter :)


I've been on CAG for a while. I've always liked the community for the most part, minus a couple of douche bags here and there (however, they are kind of "taken care of" our great cynics around here). I'm browsing through the FW thread at some of these posts.. being somebody that has a fair understanding of business, I can understand why some people would want to resell. However.. for the most part, we help each other out. I know that there are a couple of local CAG's that I've shared information with for a long time to help each other out. However.. when you see some of the idiotic statements (especially fleabay bastards that fail to understand the simplest concept of flooding a market), it shows how pathetic these people are.

I know this isn't really pertinent information pertaining to the sale, but I want to post some of this shit anyways:

I guess most of you haven't figured it out yet that minimum wage BB staff need to monitor FW for hot deals to eBay in order to suppliment their food stamps (that's kinda ed up IMO.. not all BB employees are low class trash or something)

I hope mods are taking away voting privileges to all those negging this thread.

Big ups to 'TheDealStealer'

Down with CAG! We are gonna snag all the games up leaving them with nothing.
CAG fools you can pick up these deals after I put them on eBay, suckas! (like I said.. a glimmering example of intelligence)

i'll say this about CAG - their board stinks because you can't sort the messages in order of latest subject. thanks OP because i can't find the thread over on CAG (am I the only one who wonders how some of these douche bags navigate the interwebs? How could you miss it on the front page, or by clicking the magic little "video game deals" icon?)

Ignore the tools who post negative, like someone else said earlier, they just want to keep the deal secret for themselves which means they should not be part of the FW COMMUNITY. That's right people - Community. We are part of a community intended to help each other out saving $. You don't want to be a part of this community, don't let the door hit you on your way out. (how cute.. a patriotic community charter, where the community steals information from other sources to make a profit).

I dunno.. I'm not bitching about the information being leaked, just pointing out how superior the CAG community is to the other twats out there. That, and I'm bored with a hangover.
 
Agreed, not to mention CAG often is the first place where the deals break out, and at least CAGers give credit where credit is due, considering that we're here to spread exposure for the best options for cheapasses, whereever it may be, be it here or FW or SD. The fact that people at FW want to steal attention for what is frankly a poor site anyway is base and weak. The excuses people give in that thread is major :lol: anyway - they don't seem to understand that as cheapasses, we're all in it together. I won't lie, I do buy some games and resell them, but I do give some people major deals and sell at cost or for loss.
 
For what it's worth though, the vast majority of the posts on CAG right before it hit Fatwallet were of the "fuck fatwallet" variety. The CAG hatred is pretty understood. We post deals hoping that our shit never gets mixed in with their shit. Other communities like DVD Talk seem to be okay with us, but hold a degree of resentment towards people like Fatwallet and the other general deal sites.

I'm of the opinion that people buying games on CAG buy them to play where as people buying them off of fatwallet are buying them for E-Bay. This could be bullshit as we all know some CAGs who buy strictly to make a profit, but I guess I'm just idealistic.
 
FW are dicks that buy and resell-- but there's good in FW. Just like how CAG is pretty good with some dicks that buy and resell. Good and bad everywhere.
 
Yeah, you can't really overgeneralize the other sites, but you also can't ignore a trend. The thing about CAG though is that although a few might buy a copy or two to flip and whatnot.. they don't go and clean out an entire retail market to sell Drake on Ebay. The true difference between CAG and the other sites is how many of us not only share information in situations like this, but go out of their way to help other CAG's and either trade or resell to the community at an often nominal margin.
 
some guy on SD posted his myspace address in some thread about a Denon CC price mistake to prove he got the deal.

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[quote name='Pookymeister']some guy on SD posted his myspace address in some thread about a Denon CC price mistake to prove he got the deal.

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oh noes... :lol:

and i only buy single copies for me, of stuff i want for myself

luckily i don't have to supplement my income w/ebay sale product flipping
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']some guy on SD posted his myspace address in some thread about a Denon CC price mistake to prove he got the deal.

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Holy shit.. that's gotta be from Alabama.
 
i've always wondered why doesn't FW let you post links. i've tried linking to other sites before and its like their boards eat up anything with outside links.
 
[quote name='gaelan']i've always wondered why doesn't FW let you post links. i've tried linking to other sites before and its like their boards eat up anything with outside links.[/quote]


Its all about the benjamins
 
The other problem with FW is they have way more users so it kills a deal faster.

With last year's CC winter/spring clearance, I never saw anyone with a list at CC looking for clearance deals. Then it was posted on FW and the next day I went back to CC to look for some new additions to the clearance and I saw 3 other people with a list.

I think FW is a great site for finding non gaming deals and free stuff offers but I wish the gaming deals were exclusive to here.
 
The thing about CAG is that anyone with more than 15 or so posts are actually gamers. Granted, there's a decent amount of people that bought PS3's just to resell them, but the majority of us are here to play games and save some money in the process.

I gotta say, though - this site needs to lose Digg.
 
[quote name='JJSP']

I gotta say, though - this site Internet needs to lose Digg.[/quote]
'er ya go.
 
[quote name='JJSP']I gotta say, though - this site needs to lose Digg.[/QUOTE]
fuck digg.
 
[quote name='Brak']fuck digg.[/quote]

there is no stopping digg. the only solutions are to come up with some secret codes...or maybe just signal that everyone report to the chat room for an important video game deal announcement. OR start up the discussin thread in some forum that is seldom used, like the xbox forum.
 
[quote name='JJSP']The thing about CAG is that anyone with more than 15 or so posts are actually gamers. Granted, there's a decent amount of people that bought PS3's just to resell them, but the majority of us are here to play games and save some money in the process.[/quote]

Hell, I tried to do that too - it's really hard to ignore what were the initial profit margins. I recently bought a PS3 & Call of Duty 3 for ~$650, but mainly for reviewing games for the game site I'm starting up. And let's be honest - the demand for the PS3 has been less than stellar.
 
[quote name='JJSP']The thing about CAG is that anyone with more than 15 or so posts are actually gamers. Granted, there's a decent amount of people that bought PS3's just to resell them, but the majority of us are here to play games and save some money in the process.

I gotta say, though - this site needs to lose Digg.[/QUOTE]

When I went in the store earlier to pick up some glitch DVD's, I walked over to the game section to check things out again. Two kids ran by with a DS game in their hand, and I tripped on the edge of one out of 20 something PS3's stacked on the floor in a pyramid. Dented a corner a little bit I think.. hope somebody is paying $600 for a pristine box.
 
[quote name='Pookymeister']some guy on SD posted his myspace address in some thread about a Denon CC price mistake to prove he got the deal.

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Look at all that bling and leather. Man what a stud! This guy must be making tons of money from his deals and reselling. :roll: Once he stops making money on all these deals, his woman might leave him and the family starve! Oh noes. Please contribute to the FW hoarder's and save the growing species. :fridge:
 
Getting back on topic, last few times (TRU, CC, etc.) we've gotten a list prior to the beginning of the sale I was of the mentality that everyone should just wait rather than pre-buy and then PM later. However, given how unsuccessful my attempts have been at this, I've finally said "If you can't beat em, join em." That being said, I've got some PM'ing to do later today.
 
I actually enjoy CAG since I came here 3 years ago. I have always been on the look out for deals and when I see something that looks like a good deal and plenty in stock, I do my best to post it here to share with other cag members to help them out cause they help us out everyday. I have no idea how much I have saved since joining cag, but I am sure it's a lot thanks to CheapyD and this site. FW/SD spies can go to hell for hording the deals posted here.
 
Funny this thread comes up; I'm getting really sour on this website anymore. The people are lacking personalities and manners. Asinine threads are all the rage, and thread crapped responses follow. "OMG Teh intarbutt!" and things like that.

It's almost as if, you know, people think this stuff is clever.

At any rate, hoarders bother me, but there's a whole new element to this website: the gamefaqs-ification of CAG. Idiots, idiots, everywhere, cluttering up the off topic threads, poking their foolish heads into the vs forum, and openly talking about how they will exploit deals, flip items, and hoard (who tend to be, coincidentally enough, the very same people who are angry when a deal dies).

Add to this the fact that, until the Amazon DOTD, frontpage deals were sparse and the overall organization of the site becoming more and more dreadful.

This website is still useful and fun to come to, but there's a lot about it that sucks right now that wasn't the case years ago. Frankly, I see the gap between this site and GF narrowing more and more as time goes on.
 
[quote name='gaelan']there is no stopping digg. the only solutions are to come up with some secret codes...or maybe just signal that everyone report to the chat room for an important video game deal announcement. OR start up the discussin thread in some forum that is seldom used, like the xbox forum.[/QUOTE]

Oh, there is a way to defeat digg but it would take an unprecidented amount of coordination, cooperation, and dedication. If you got enough people together to go out and digg the most useless sites on a regular basis people would quit using it because the top digg of the day would be garbage and no one would bother with it anymore. Like I said though, its really just a pipe dream cause it would take too many people for starters.

I think the digg courting that CAG has gone through has been positive for cheapy because now he can boast more users and get more $ for advertising but it comes at the expense of us losing the "exclusivity" period of deals that we used to be afforded. Once again, unfortunately this is one of those situations where we don't own the site so we don't get to call the shots, it sucks but there's really nothing that can be done about it. As this site gets bigger, the availability of deals will get worse, plain and simple. Eventually, CAG will probably end up as this wierd mix of Gamefaqs and FatWallet.
 
but if CAG gets more user and Cheapy earns more $, he could have a better chance getting some coupon code (play-asia, gamestop)
 
I think the best solution arose in the original thread: stores have to limit families to one or two copies of a game.

Unfortunately it's almost impossible to enforce a policy like that and we have no way of communicating the need to stores. It seems to be something that stores are just starting to enforce so perhaps we will see more of it in the future?
 
[quote name='cochesecochese']I think the best solution arose in the original thread: stores have to limit families to one or two copies of a game.

Unfortunately it's almost impossible to enforce a policy like that and we have no way of communicating the need to stores. It seems to be something that stores are just starting to enforce so perhaps we will see more of it in the future?[/quote]

The main point is - why should stores care?

In Bestbuy's eyes, anyone taking advantage of this deal is a "devil customer" anyway, and there's no point in courting this customer as the profit margin is too small. If one person comes in and clears out all their old inventory, that is actually a plus for Bestbuy because they have cleared out the shelf space sooner and have used less of the cashier's time.

The thing I can never figure out in respect to hoarders is that the profit margins would seem to be too slim to bother. It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer and Newman try to organize a plan for making money off of the nickel deposit for each returned bottle.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Funny this thread comes up; I'm getting really sour on this website anymore. The people are lacking personalities and manners. Asinine threads are all the rage, and thread crapped responses follow. "OMG Teh intarbutt!" and things like that.

It's almost as if, you know, people think this stuff is clever.

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[quote name='mykevermin']:rofl:

I think we just got rid of that in favor of a brushed steel kettle.[/QUOTE]

i like my kettles like i like my women

:cool:
 
[quote name='camoor']
The thing I can never figure out in respect to hoarders is that the profit margins would seem to be too slim to bother. It reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer and Newman try to organize a plan for making money off of the nickel deposit for each returned bottle.[/QUOTE]

Probably volume. If someone clearing out a BB makes on average $5 profit a game but buys 50 games, each $5 adds up quickly.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Ready to make you a piping hot cup of Earl Grey?[/QUOTE]

it's like you're my brotha from anotha motha

*big hug*
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']i like my kettles like i like my women

:cool:[/QUOTE]

Ready to go first thing in the morning and only make noise when you tell them to?
 
[quote name='eshbums']Ready to go first thing in the morning and only make noise when you tell them to?[/QUOTE]

more like, coated with a flame resistant metal alloy and able to expel hot liquids on command
 
I didn't even bother with the sale. Between the limited selection and hoarders, it wasnt' worth it. Even at $2 a game.
 
The thing with CAG is that it is a business for Cheapy and the more traffic he gets, the more money he makes. No offense to Cheapy of course, but I'm sure having a small community is not on the top of his priority list.

You really can't have it both ways either. To become the best video game deal site on the internet, you have to have tons of people to find the deals. Think about all those smaller deal sites and how many genuine deals break on their site first. With the large number of people that are joining, obviously we're going to get a good percentage of hoarders and lurkers but we're also going to get newbies who will contribute and give us some awesome deals.

One option would be to make this a pay site, but I don't think Cheapy would be up for that. Even if he did charge a membership fee, along with all the lurkers and hoarders, we would lose many contributing members on the site.

On a side note, the comment about the "FW COMMUNITY' is hillarious. Right, a community where people look out for themselves and leave nothing for their fellow members. :roll:
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Funny this thread comes up; I'm getting really sour on this website anymore. The people are lacking personalities and manners. Asinine threads are all the rage, and thread crapped responses follow. "OMG Teh intarbutt!" and things like that.

It's almost as if, you know, people think this stuff is clever.

At any rate, hoarders bother me, but there's a whole new element to this website: the gamefaqs-ification of CAG. Idiots, idiots, everywhere, cluttering up the off topic threads, poking their foolish heads into the vs forum, and openly talking about how they will exploit deals, flip items, and hoard (who tend to be, coincidentally enough, the very same people who are angry when a deal dies).[/QUOTE]

I have to agree somewhat after reading the Best Buy deals thread over the last few days. I mean, how many people have to post that it doesn't start until Monday and other clearly stated or common-sense information? It does kind of make it seem like a big chunk of the 10- to 16-year-old fanboy element from GameFAQs has made its way here. Although, in full disclosure, I have to say that I first heard about this site on...GameFAQs. :lol:
 
[quote name='encendido5']On a side note, the comment about the "FW COMMUNITY' is hillarious. Right, a community where people look out for themselves and leave nothing for their fellow members. :roll:[/quote]

:lol:


Also, I wouldn't dare compare this site to a site like GameFAQs - there're a lot of other sites/forums much closer to something like that, no names.
 
[quote name='King Bahamut']:lol:


Also, I wouldn't dare compare this site to a site like GameFAQs - there're a lot of other sites/forums much closer to something like that, no names.[/QUOTE]

But we're recieving more and more GFers everyday. Granted, I found and migrated here from Gamefaqs, but still.
 
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