Best Politician Ever

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This is similar to 'Worst Politician Ever', except the opposite. Who do you think has had the most successful political career, and why?

I think FDR. I completely disagree with his political stances, but his New Deal programs were just what the depression needed.
 
I gotta go back to Jefferson or Lincoln. What they did to create and preserve this country is truly remarkable and I wish we had the likes of them in public office today.
 
[quote name='Tiphireth']This is similar to 'Worst Politician Ever', except the opposite. Who do you think has had the most successful political career, and why?

I think FDR. I completely disagree with his political stances, but his New Deal programs were just what the depression needed.[/QUOTE]

He was president for 8 years of the Depression, some of the worst years of the Depression, and the Depression was getting worse before WWII, all under FDR. You can even argue he made the Depression worse, but that's for another time and another day. Point is, WWII and WWII alone got us out of the Depression. Don't get me wrong, I loved him a war time president, but I think he sucked prewar.


Alas, Lincoln is my best. Someone with the balls to tell the Constitution who's boss.
 
[quote name='Rich']He was president for 8 years of the Depression, some of the worst years of the Depression, and the Depression was getting worse before WWII, all under FDR. You can even argue he made the Depression worse, but that's for another time and another day. Point is, WWII and WWII alone got us out of the Depression. Don't get me wrong, I loved him a war time president, but I think he sucked prewar.


Alas, Lincoln is my best. Someone with the balls to tell the Constitution who's boss.[/QUOTE]

I don't think that anyone could have brought us out of that particular depression, but yeah, I definitely agree with you on the fact that WWII was the cure.
 
[quote name='Tiphireth']I don't think that anyone could have brought us out of that particular depression, but yeah, I definitely agree with you on the fact that WWII was the cure.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, but to say The New Deal helped in any way and to say FDR is the best president because of that = funny.
 
very few people during the depression would have listened to Keynes theories on economics and had the balls to apply him. Without him, fiscal responsibility to a fault would have continued to plague the government.

Fault him all you want on what happened from his programs, but its not like one person could pull the world out of a recession caused by years of letting people run up obscene amounts of credit.
 
[quote name='CaseyRyback']very few people during the depression would have listened to Keynes theories on economics and had the balls to apply him. Without him, fiscal responsibility to a fault would have continued to plague the government.

Fault him all you want on what happened from his programs, but its not like one person could pull the world out of a recession caused by years of letting people run up obscene amounts of credit.[/QUOTE]

Uh, so your defense for FDR is that noone could have helped, including him?

I think he was a great president but his first 2 terms were ass.
 
[quote name='Rich']He's not Kerry, for one.[/QUOTE]

Bush did not get good grades in college, he doesn't have 20 years experience in the government (much less 20 years sober before his election), and he is freinds with the Saudis who harbor mor terrorists than any other country in the world.

Good point, he's not Kerry. Kerry is an American, not a trailer trash drunk who got rich off of blood money.
 
[quote name='Rich']He's not Kerry, for one.[/QUOTE]

And Bush has been doing a bang up job since the election. Hows that there Iraq doing? Oh yeah, they had their elections! But wait, that didn't make any difference? What's that? It's still the same over there as before? Hrm.

Maybe if Kerry was in, there'd be some difference. There is no difference with Bush still in, and that's a very bad thing.
 
George Washington. If we had wisely followed his vision of not having political parties, we would be much, much better off. I've got to also mention Thomas Jefferson for sheer brilliance.
 
[quote name='uzumaki_star']I would have to say Abraham Lincoln for at least bringing the nation together at one of it's worst times.[/QUOTE]

at what point did abraham lincoln bring the nation together?
 
[quote name='munch']at what point did abraham lincoln bring the nation together?[/QUOTE]

A house divided cannot stand. He united the country again after the bloodiest war we've ever waged. Honestly, I can't even comprehend your sentence.
 
[quote name='munch']at what point did abraham lincoln bring the nation together?[/QUOTE]

He brought us together with the end of the Civil War and tried to do even greater things before his death.
 
[quote name='evilmax17']Not best ever or anything, but someone I'm keeping my eye on:

Barack Obama[/QUOTE]

You keep seeing him all over the place. I would have to agree evilmax17.
 
[quote name='uzumaki_star']He brought us together with the end of the Civil War and tried to do even greater things before his death.[/QUOTE]

this is all in theory. did he actually do it? he had a dream of national unification, but the nation as a whole did not come together as a result of Lincoln. the South hated him and his policies. i would hardly call him a national unifier. If by 'us' you mean the north, than he did bring 'us' together, but he by no means brought the entire nation together.
 
by perserving the Union, he achieved his policies and his sole goal. Without him, the country would be split in two, because no one else would have continued with the war.

also, as far as unifying the nation, many southeners mourned the death of Lincoln because they knew no one else was going to be as kind to them in bringing peace to the nation
 
Lincoln can be credited with rejecting the argument made by many of his fellow republicans, to punish the south. Though whether he's a unifier (beyond the technical reunification part that resultd from winning the war) I'd say is somewhat debatable.
 
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