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Suikoden 2, complete and mint for my extra copy of Shadow Hearts that I bought for $10!!

:bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy: :bouncy:

Still can't believe it. Finally, repentence for selling it all those years back for $13 :)
 
Has this trade been completed, or was it just pended up? Hopefully the other person is sending first, in which case this is a hell of a deal! Congrats on landing one of the greatest games, if not the greatest, ever made!
 
[quote name='Rig']Oh that's it! I didn't know I was being taken! :evil:

This deal is OFF![/QUOTE]

Haha.
 
[quote name='zewone']It's pronounced LOL on the internet. If its really funny, LMAO! Nerd. :D[/QUOTE]

I know, just changing it up a bit. LOL, LMAO, and ROTFL can get old.
 
[quote name='jacobv']I know, just changing it up a bit. LOL, LMAO, and ROTFL can get old.[/QUOTE]

I was joking, say whatever you want. :lol:
 
[quote name='markholladay']Sorry if I sound stupid. But I dont really know a lot about Suikoden 2. What makes it so good? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

It's a bit uncommon and goes for gross amounts on 3b4y.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']It's a bit uncommon and goes for gross amounts on 3b4y.[/QUOTE]

Is that about it? Just good for ebay. I was looking at reviews ( which I know dont always mean much) and they were not that great.
 
[quote name='markholladay']Is that about it? Just good for ebay. I was looking at reviews ( which I know dont always mean much) and they were not that great.[/QUOTE]

It's a pretty good game, not $120 great but good. It's one of the few RPGs I've beaten 3 times, the other being suikoden 1.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']It's a pretty good game, not $120 great but good. It's one of the few RPGs I've beaten 3 times, the other being suikoden 1.[/QUOTE]

Well, since you've beat it, mind if I rent it? :lol:
 
Bwahaha! I love the comments of "Good Job screwing someone over." As if these fellow CAG'ers wouldn't jump on a sweet deal for Suikoden II! Way to show how jealous you are. In any case, Suikoden II is one of the best direct sequels I've ever played. Imagine playing a game that totally kicks ass, only to get a sequel that is better in every aspect. It just doesn't get better than playing Suikoden followed by Suikoden II.
 
[quote name='joevan07']Well, since you've beat it, mind if I rent it? :lol:[/QUOTE]

Sure, it's disk only, but if you want to borrow it PM me.
 
[quote name='KingofGames']Bwahaha! I love the comments of "Good Job screwing someone over." As if these fellow CAG'ers wouldn't jump on a sweet deal for Suikoden II! Way to show how jealous you are. In any case, Suikoden II is one of the best direct sequels I've ever played. Imagine playing a game that totally kicks ass, only to get a sequel that is better in every aspect. It just doesn't get better than playing Suikoden followed by Suikoden II.[/QUOTE]

Actually it's more like they wouldn't post a brag about it.
 
[quote name='Drico']Nice job screwing someone. You should be proud.[/QUOTE]

Oh, right, like you'd say "Shit.. that's unfair. I'll include a gold bar with Shadow Hearts".
 
[quote name='KingofGames']Bwahaha! I love the comments of "Good Job screwing someone over." As if these fellow CAG'ers wouldn't jump on a sweet deal for Suikoden II! Way to show how jealous you are. In any case, Suikoden II is one of the best direct sequels I've ever played. Imagine playing a game that totally kicks ass, only to get a sequel that is better in every aspect. It just doesn't get better than playing Suikoden followed by Suikoden II.[/QUOTE]

No I would tell them what it was worth. I would buy it if I saw it cheap @ a pawnshop or any retail store but I would not screw somebody just for not knowing the worth of their own possessions.
KARMA

FWI, I am not jealous of the OP for owning Suikoden 2. Been there done that I bought it new when it came out and shortly after I beat I let my friends beat it then I sold it. I am a gamer not a collecter.
 
I'll make this short and sweet. Your first paragraph states that it's unfair that he didn't mention the true value of the game. Your second paragraph states that you are a gamer, not a collector. Why are you concerned about the value in the first place? Let us know which you decide to be today and we'll continue this discussion.

[quote name='spoo']No I would tell them what it was worth. I would buy it if I saw it cheap @ a pawnshop or any retail store but I would not screw somebody just for not knowing the worth of their own possessions.
KARMA

FWI, I am not jealous of the OP for owning Suikoden 2. Been there done that I bought it new when it came out and shortly after I beat I let my friends beat it then I sold it. I am a gamer not a collecter.[/QUOTE]
 
[quote name='KingofGames']I'll make this short and sweet. Your first paragraph states that it's unfair that he didn't mention the true value of the game. Your second paragraph states that you are a gamer, not a collector. Why are you concerned about the value in the first place? Let us know which you decide to be today and we'll continue this discussion.[/QUOTE]

You are missing the point. The point is the OP screwed over somebody.

I will give you an example. I would much rather play Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt then Rez. But Rez is not worth 1/100 of the price of SMB/DH. Would I trade you Rez for SMB/DH? No I would not because it is not worth any where near the same price. If i did not know the value of the games in question then I would trade thus being screwed over. A 2004 BMW that has a blown motor is worth more then a 1985 Civic that runs great. I would rather have the Civic because it runs but it is not worth as much as the BMW. If you made this trade you would have been screwed.

I am concerned because the OP blatantly screwed over some one because he/she "was not in the know".
 
[quote name='spoo']You are missing the point. The point is the OP screwed over somebody.

I will give you an example. I would much rather play Super Mario Bros./Duck Hunt then Rez. But Rez is not worth 1/100 of the price of SMB/DH. Would I trade you Rez for SMB/DH? No I would not because it is not worth any where near the same price. If i did not know the value of the games in question then I would trade thus being screwed over. A 2004 BMW that has a blown motor is worth more then a 1985 Civic that runs great. I would rather have the Civic because it runs but it is not worth as much as the BMW. If you made this trade you would have been screwed.

I am concerned because the OP blatantly screwed over some one because he/she "was not in the know".[/QUOTE]

I made a guide trade on here once with a newbie. It was 3 for 3, I gave up 3 worthless guides (range from .01-.50 on ebay) for 3 guides that were worth about 20-30 bucks a piece on ebay. The guy told me what he had, I said there's nothing I really want except the 3 rare ones, and the guy said sure. They were old, I think he assumed that meant they were worthless. I was only half offering, I knew the 3 he wanted weren't even worth the 1 but I thought he might bite, never did I intend to suggest a 3 for 3. In the end I had about $80 worth of guides for 3 guides I got for a penny, and would be lucky to sell them for that on ebay. I didn't suggest screwing him, he set the rules himself. As long as you're not the other person essentially screws themself, then there's nothing wrong.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'] As long as you're not the other person essentially screws themself, then there's nothing wrong.[/QUOTE]

But did you come on here right afterward and gloat to the whole community about it? I never really thought the line between shrewd buisness man and arrogant gloater was difficult to see.
 
[quote name='spoo']I am concerned because the OP blatantly screwed over some one because he/she "was not in the know".[/QUOTE]

Is it an unfair trade? Yeah, but it's not Never4ever's responsibility to inform the other trader of the value of their games. The other trader should have done his homework before accepting the offer. How hard is it to go to Ebay and search completed auctions of Suikoden II? I do this before every time I agree to a trade just to make sure I'm not trading off something I'll regret later.

The other trader screwed themselves by not doing some simple research. Don't blame Never4ever.
 
I'd have jumped on that in a second. And I've made posts on here about several NES or SNES lots I've bought from yard sales, etc. for well below market value. If I see a game or whatever at a yard sale being offered up for a fraction of it's true value I sure as fuck don't give the guy running the sale the heads up. I just calmly say 'Hmm, I guess I'll take this.' And get the hell out of there.
 
It depends what the OP plans on doing with Suikoden 2.

If he's doing the trade just so he can go to eBay and sell it, then he's screwing over the guy.

But if he's actually getting the game so he can play it, there's nothing wrong with the trade, IMO.

By the way, personally, I liked Suikoden 1 better than 2. What do people like more about the second one?
 
:lol: So much controversy over a meaningless post. I gotta love my 15 mins of fame :D.

For clarification, he knew fully well what Suikoden 2 was worth (well not FULLY, but he knew it was no ordinary PSOne game, seeing as I blabbed on and on about how much it was worth :)). He did the trade because he liked shadow hearts more (that and he scored it for a measly $20 himself, or so he claims), and because he knew how badly I wanted it. :lol: He approached ME about the trade, not the other way around.

Wait, what's that? You all were made out to look like asses just for assuming? Oh I'm sorry, next time I'll clarify before you guys run your collective mouths, looking like a bunch of asses :p NOTE: this only goes out to the jealous jackasses who went with the whole "you screwed him over!!1!!1” crap.
 
What will I do? Continue to think of you as an ass, you just said it yourself he didn't know the full value of the game, the fact that he approched you really doesn't change my view on this.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']What will I do? Continue to think of you as an ass, you just said it yourself he didn't know the full value of the game, the fact that he approched you really doesn't change my view on this.[/QUOTE]


:lol: Again, he knew it what it was worth, I told him several times that it's worth at least $80. I myself thought it was worth that much, I never knew it was worth $100+, so forgive me :p

I've said this time and time again: Assuming makes you look like an ASS. Don't comment about tyhings unless you know the whole story.
People post "look what I scored at a garage sale / flea market!!" all the goddamn time, and no one bitches. The difference between my post and there's? I got something you all wanted. Thanks for making me feel that much better :D
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']
People post "look what I scored at a garage sale / flea market!!" all the goddamn time, and no one bitches. The difference between my post and there's? I got something you all wanted. Thanks for making me feel that much better :D[/QUOTE]

Getting a good deal at a garage sale and screwing over a fellow trader are 2 completely different things. Sure you told him it was worth $80, hell I wouldn't be surprised if you told him SH was worth $60.

I think if there is any question of you screwing him over it was clearly cleaned up when you stated that you planned on selling it or trading it for "an arm and a leg". I think after reading this thread I realize that you probably aren't the type of user I'd be interested in trading with in the future.
 
Even if the seller wasn't aware of the value, he can do his own research. How many of you just up and buy something from anywhere without first attempting to see a pattern in the value? N4E's happy, Guy's happy, we're all happy. End of story.
 
What's up with all of the bitter traders here? You're probably the same people who took advantage of the Circuit City deal and the latest EB deal. It's ok to "rip-off" a game store when they have a killer deal, because it's by their own terms, but if a trader proposes a trade on his own terms, it's bad? What about people who pick up valuable items from a flee market? The people selling the items probably could use the money, so why rip them off? Why not tell them how much their items are worth and give them a chance to make more profit?

Who cares if he plans to sell the game immediately after receiving it, the trade is 100% legit. No one in their right mind would offer more to someone if the other trader was on the bad end of a lop-sided trade, especially if the other trader was the one who suggested the deal. Stop acting self-righteous and grow up.
 
[quote name='Ledhed']Even if the seller wasn't aware of the value, he can do his own research. How many of you just up and buy something from anywhere without first attempting to see a pattern in the value? N4E's happy, Guy's happy, we're all happy. End of story.[/QUOTE]

Awww.... :grouphug:
 
[quote name='KingofGames']What's up with all of the bitter traders here? You're probably the same people who took advantage of the Circuit City deal and the latest EB deal. It's ok to "rip-off" a game store when they have a killer deal, because it's by their own terms, but if a trader proposes a trade on his own terms, it's bad? What about people who pick up valuable items from a flee market? The people selling the items probably could use the money, so why rip them off? Why not tell them how much their items are worth and give them a chance to make more profit? [/QUOTE]
The difference is that we're under the impression that he's dealing with a friend. "Screwing over" is judged more harshly when dealing with a friend. Say he goes and sells it and makes money that could have been his friend's.
"Hey man, thanks for trading me your game, I sold it for $120."
"So we traded just so you could make money off of it...? *awkward*"
That's shitty to do to a friend. I mean, unless you enjoy deliberately benefitting at other peoples' expense.
Stop acting self-righteous and grow up.
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Throwing out insults like that makes it sound like you're the one who needs to grow up. No offense. Blanket insults = childish. Seriously, think about it.
 
This is essentially a question of personal morality.

For me it's a gray zone. I always make an effort not to profit or lose on a trade by greater then 25%.

I have no problems buying super cheap games from a corporation like "Worst Buy". However when it comes to trading games, I want to help out my fellow gamers who are just looking for another fun experience.

I guess I look at dealing with big corporations as business, and trading with fellow gamers as more of a community experience.
 
Lloyd: This didn't come out of our travel fund.

Harry: Oh.

Lloyd: Yeah, I was able to raise 25 extra bucks before we left.

Harry: Where did you get 25 extra bucks?

Lloyd: I sold some stuff, to Billy in 4C

Harry: The blind kid?

Lloyd: (Laughing) Yeah, yeah.

Harry: What did you sell him Lloyd?

Lloyd: You know, stuff.

Harry: What kinda stuff?

Lloyd: Few baseball cards, a sack of marbles, (coughs) Petey.

Harry: Petey? You sold my dead bird to a blind kid? Lloyd, wh- he- wha- Petey didn't even have a head!

Lloyd: Harry, I took care of it.

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Billy: Pretty bird, pretty bird....
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Getting a good deal at a garage sale and screwing over a fellow trader are 2 completely different things. Sure you told him it was worth $80, hell I wouldn't be surprised if you told him SH was worth $60.
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Actually he knew what SH was clearly worth. Hell I brought up the fact that this trade was overly one-sided, he just didn't care. He beat suikoden 2 and he wanted SH, plain and simple.

I think after reading this thread I realize that you probably aren't the type of user I'd be interested in trading with in the future.
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Good then simply don't trade, I honestly could care less. Besides all you would do is lowball me with inane offers anyways, but in your case it would be fair, wound't it? :roll:

Look at this point its clear that you're bitching just to bitch, so by all means, continue to do so. In the meanwhile I think I'll go and play some Suikoden 2. LMK when your done, thanks.
 
[quote name='PKRipp3r']shadow hearts > suikoden II

fact[/QUOTE]

Hmm, I might just have to agree with you on that one. Suikoden 2 might've been the shit back in the day, but it sure didn't age well, especially compared to some of the finer next-gen RPGs. Still it's a great game, but worth no where near it's asking price.
 
[quote name='-Never4ever-']
Good then simply don't trade, I honestly could care less. Besides all you would do is lowball me with inane offers anyways, but in your case it would be fair, wound't it? [/QUOTE]

From a guy with a trading history as shady as yours I really wouldn't be talking, don't think that everyone forgot the last time you were to lazy to send out your part of a deal and then berated people for lossing faith in you.
 
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