Bomb Defused @ SF Starbucks: Local Liberals Blame Bush For Trying to Kill Them

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Bomb Defused at San Francisco Starbucks
Tuesday, January 10, 2006

SAN FRANCISCO — Police say they have leads to pursue as they search for the person who put a bomb in the bathroom of a Starbucks, forcing the evacuation of about 100 people from a four-block area. No one was injured.

The device was disarmed about an hour after it was found Monday, and residents were allowed back into the building.

"This was a good device. If it had exploded, it would have caused injuries or damage," said Sgt. Neville Gittens.

He would not disclose the size or type of device, or its potential explosive capacity. But he added, "we have some very active leads that we're following up."

Gittens said no one phoned in a bomb threat or took responsibility for the bomb.

Seattle-based Starbucks declined to give details.

In 2003, police said the windows of 17 Starbucks stores were clouded with glue and some of their door locks were jammed. Vandals also posted phony notices purporting to be from Starbucks management announcing the company's intention to abandon some of their San Francisco stores to make room for more locally owned coffee houses.
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I have to hand it to whomever planted this thing. It would have really been an eye opener to those San Francisco coffee house dwelling liberals that hey, just because you say give peace a chance doesn't mean you're not targeted for death too.

Think they'll wake up after this?

Nah, they're liberals, can't deal with the brain dead on reasonable levels.

Bravo to the SFPD Bomb Squad for a job well done without injury or death. The bravest men and women on our nation's police forces, period. There's no amount of money that you could pay me to take or do that job.
 
When I first read the title of the thread, I assumed that it would be the usual 'PAD takes an irrelevant side-comment in the article, spins it to mean something completely different, and then bitches about it. Instead, it turns out that he's just completely making shit up now. Congratulations, PAD: your insanity has reached a whole new depth!
 
It was probably planted by some freeper after watching Bill O'Lielly last year.

From the November 8 broadcast of Fox News' The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly:

O'REILLY: Hey, you know, if you want to ban military recruiting, fine, but I'm not going to give you another nickel of federal money. You know, if I'm the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium, and I say, "Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you're not going to get another nickel in federal funds. Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead."

And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it. We're going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.

Who wants to bet that it turns out to be some white dubya-supporter?
 
A 44-year-old man was arrested Tuesday night on suspicion of planting an explosive device in the bathroom of a Starbucks coffee shop, police said.

Ronald Schouten, of San Francisco, was being held in San Francisco County jail on an unrelated drug charge, police spokesman Dewayne Tully said.

"There is no connection to any terrorism or anything against Starbucks," Sgt. Neville Gittens said. "Everything at this point and time indicates that this particular individual acted alone and this is an isolated incident."

Authorities were called around 1:15 p.m. Monday, after an employee reported finding something suspicious in the store's bathroom. About 100 people were evacuated from the store and apartments above it, and the street was closed to traffic, Gittens said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/11/national/main1201117.shtml

Did I call that or what? :lol:

But since the guy's probably white, it CAN'T be terrorist-related, at least according to the article. :roll:
 
So my next question is: can Bill O'Reilly be arrested for inciting domestic terrorism?
 
Actually, I'm more surprised that PAD is endorsing domestic terrorism.

I guess the message here is that it's more important to be scared than to be thoughtful, right, PAD? Makes it easier to herd the sheep.

You really are a fascist.
 
Photos of the bomber:

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PAD, do you listen to yourself at all? Where is there even mention that 'Liberals blame Bush'? I'm surprized you get any news through that bubble you're stuck in. Peddle your propoganda elsewhere.
 
Okay, this has completely crossed the line. You used to simply 'analyze' articles in questionable ways, but now you're just making shit up and outright attacking CAGs in general. Is there no way we can ban PAD? He contributes nothing to the community, just sits here and pulls shit out of his fucking ass.

Second, I agree with the above poster who inquired about whether PAD is now ENCOURAGING terrorism? It's clear PAD that you no longer loathe liberals, you hate them. I don't doubt you'll become a psycho liberal-bombing lunatic some day.

And of course, he's abandoned the thread. HEY PAD, COME BACK AND STICK UP FOR THE fuckING BULLSHIT YOU KEEP PULLING OUT OF NOWHERE.

Never has one of his threads pissed me off this much.
 
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DING DING DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

Happy you fall for it hook line and sinker.

We don't need to bomb liberals, they can't win, don't win and can't advance an agenda. All I do is point and laugh at them. Like I am at you.... right now.
 
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DING DING DING DING DING!

We have a winner!

Happy you fall for it hook line and sinker.

We don't need to bomb liberals, they can't win, don't win and can't advance an agenda. All I do is point and laugh at them. Like I am at you.... right now.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for successfully stereotyping a bunch of people based just on your assholeish opinions that don't even take any sort of statistic or anything into consideration.

Guess what fuckface? I could go around making stupid-as-shit threads too! In fact, I'll make one up right now:
SilverPaw750's PAD-esque thread said:
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SEOUL - The president of one of South Korea's most prestigious universities apologized on Wednesday for scientific fraud at his school, saying two fabricated papers on stem cell research had embarrassed the country and science.

On Tuesday, an investigation panel at Seoul National University said a team led by once-heralded and now disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk faked two landmark papers on embryonic stem cells, but did produce the world's first cloned dog.

"Hwang's research team did something scientists should never do. This incident left a mark that cannot be erased in Korea and the international science community," Seoul National University President Chung Un-chan told a news conference.
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Clearly the Koreans and Asians and general are not trustworthy. You know what we should do? Band together and only buy products made in the USA! Patriotism assholes! That'll show those Koreans that they can't lie to the good old U-S-of-A! No-sir-ee! In fact, I wish people would BOMB the Koreans to show them a consequence of lying to us, even though they have never done anything to me that gives me any reason to hope that they would be bombed! Whoopee!
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Look at that PAD. I just made one of your posts! And it took me what...2 minutes? Guess what asshat, we can all make up some off-the-wall inferrences out of nowhere and piss everyone off. But you know why we don't? Because a forum is a community, and it's up to the members to be responsible for themselves, to look after themselves, and make sure they don't take advantage of the fact that they've been given the priveledge to post. You just sit here, camp on the versus forum, make a topic, dissappear as people prove you wrong, then wait for one person to say ONE THING that you can attack, do so (completely ignoring all prior arguements in the process) and go back into hiding.

I applaud your method :applause:. Clearly you are a great example of how the world should be run today. Gee, if more people were like you, maybe the world would be perfect!

And in my opinion, you've outright outstayed your welcome at this forum, FINALLY going overboard with this bullshit. At least with your other threads I could KIND OF see where you MIGHT have been coming from with your logic, but now you've descended into completely non-factual posts.

If you haven't already noticed, you pretty much abuse the fact that you're allowed to post crap like this.

fuck you man, I've heard enough of your semi-factual-semi-supremecist-all-stupid rants. Go away.

Mods, if I've gone overboard, let me know. But I think you can understand why I'm so angry in the context of PAD's stupid stupid posts.
 
This is just stupid anyways, concervatives go to starbucks, Liberals go to local coffee shops.

If you dont believe that, you've never been to San Fran, or hell... a Starbucks.

Liberals think that starbucks is the devil, like western medicine. If anything this was an attack for the other side. Jeez....
 
I don't think the mods delve into the vs. forums. Every thread has its little dick-waving-prick-fights, but rarely do they escalate into something that requires a mod.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Liberals think that starbucks is the devil, like western medicine. If anything this was an attack for the other side. Jeez....[/QUOTE]
Liberals falsely do so. I don't care about the homogenization of a market. As a matter of fact, let them all be Starbucks. There is one local roaster I like, but they still don't have as good coffee as Starbucks. Their dark roasts are fantastic (mmmm Verona!), their fair trade coffee don't taste like Pancho Villa shit in a bag, and they always have soy milk in stock (try THAT, fuckin' vegan-manager-used-all-the-soy-milk-on-her-bullshit-kashi-flakes-so-I-have-to-drink-a-red-eye mom n' pop bourgeoisie coffee shop!).

Starbucks also offers health insurance and 401(k) for its employees (even part time). I'm of the opinion that, as a liberal, it doesn't bother me that people work at McDonald's; I do think, however, that that shouldn't disqualify them from a living standard that includes medicine and retirement. I respect Starbucks (and CostCo!) for bucking that trend, and treating employees like human beings instead of chattel.
 
[quote name='SilverPaw750']Thank you for successfully stereotyping a bunch of people based just on your assholeish opinions that don't even take any sort of statistic or anything into consideration.

Guess what fuckface? I could go around making stupid-as-shit threads too! In fact, I'll make one up right now:


Look at that PAD. I just made one of your posts! And it took me what...2 minutes? Guess what asshat, we can all make up some off-the-wall inferrences out of nowhere and piss everyone off. But you know why we don't? Because a forum is a community, and it's up to the members to be responsible for themselves, to look after themselves, and make sure they don't take advantage of the fact that they've been given the priveledge to post. You just sit here, camp on the versus forum, make a topic, dissappear as people prove you wrong, then wait for one person to say ONE THING that you can attack, do so (completely ignoring all prior arguements in the process) and go back into hiding.

I applaud your method :applause:. Clearly you are a great example of how the world should be run today. Gee, if more people were like you, maybe the world would be perfect!

And in my opinion, you've outright outstayed your welcome at this forum, FINALLY going overboard with this bullshit. At least with your other threads I could KIND OF see where you MIGHT have been coming from with your logic, but now you've descended into completely non-factual posts.

If you haven't already noticed, you pretty much abuse the fact that you're allowed to post crap like this.

fuck you man, I've heard enough of your semi-factual-semi-supremecist-all-stupid rants. Go away.

Mods, if I've gone overboard, let me know. But I think you can understand why I'm so angry in the context of PAD's stupid stupid posts.[/QUOTE]

But you're missing the fun of exposing conservative fallacies. In addition, it would be a lot less interesting here if PAD were gone. No one's lives are going to change based on CAG, so relax and have a little fun. :)
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']But you're missing the fun of exposing conservative fallacies. In addition, it would be a lot less interesting here if PAD were gone. No one's lives are going to change based on CAG, so relax and have a little fun. :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, where's the fun if we all agree? The conservatives here amuse me the way they scramble to justify the latest Bush fuck up.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Liberals falsely do so. I don't care about the homogenization of a market. As a matter of fact, let them all be Starbucks. There is one local roaster I like, but they still don't have as good coffee as Starbucks. Their dark roasts are fantastic (mmmm Verona!), their fair trade coffee don't taste like Pancho Villa shit in a bag, and they always have soy milk in stock (try THAT, fuckin' vegan-manager-used-all-the-soy-milk-on-her-bullshit-kashi-flakes-so-I-have-to-drink-a-red-eye mom n' pop bourgeoisie coffee shop!).

Starbucks also offers health insurance and 401(k) for its employees (even part time). I'm of the opinion that, as a liberal, it doesn't bother me that people work at McDonald's; I do think, however, that that shouldn't disqualify them from a living standard that includes medicine and retirement. I respect Starbucks (and CostCo!) for bucking that trend, and treating employees like human beings instead of chattel.[/QUOTE]

Dude, I worked at Starbucks for 3 years... 401k is bullshit, and the insurance is a joke.... meaning only the Managers get it. Also, [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]employees consistently receive 19.75 hours. 15 minutes shy of earning those costly benefits. Yay, Starbucks![/font]

About coffee, did you know that one venti (Italian for 20, as in 20 oz) cup of coffee pays for the whole pot? Interesting huh? Thats a 800% profit. Name other companies that turn that kind of profit. That gives you an idea of how much they actually pay these people in ethiopia for it...

Did you know that coffee beans are inside something that looks like a cherry? PIC BELOW.

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See that tough skin? This is how coffee is made...

1st they have thousands of 5 cents an hour workers tear their hands up getting coffee off the plants with no tools... Then they have the workers spend grueling hours peeling the bean out of the berry... Then of course put in a basket and roasted in a crude roasting machine...

[Random fact: The reason why Starbucks coffee tastes different is because they reroast the beans in america.]

[Random fact: The managers get bonuses for hiring people at lower wages]

[Random Fact: Did you know that Starbucks charged the firemen and workers at the 9/11 site for water? Later, they said it was an oversight, but everyone who worked for Starbucks knew that it wasnt, as we were told we'd lose our jobs if we told anyone.]

Check out this sweet ad Starbucks churned up right after 9/11

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Man that Dragonfly is about to cause a pointless war!

Starbucks is the new McDonalds ; [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] The Caramel Pecan Sticky Roll (which has more fat than a Big Mac) or even better (worse), the Eggnog Latte are so bad for you it is astounding[/font]. Check it out!

[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They have predatory business practices. Common practices are things like paying landlords to not renew leases for coffee shops so that they can move in. Awesome!

Nothing better than hearing these awesome stories! Welcome to Starbucks!
"[/font]I met my love of my life at Starbucks where we were both employed. When we first got together i asked my manager if this would be a problem and he said no. In December of 2003 I gave birth to a baby girl ( with less than a warm reaction from my stores partners) When I returned from my leave, I was told we couldn't work in the same store anymore, to make things right I transferred to The closest store (20 miles away) two weeks after transferring my old manager fired my boyfriend without reason (with a newborn at home mind you) I fearing for our finances asked to transfer back to save the 40 mile round trip, A request denied by my district manager for no reason. So there I am having to waste what little money we have to live on driving 40 miles a day. That wouldn't be so bad except that My boyfriend could not find a job because of negative references made by my former manager. My boyfriend was out of work for a year, And I tried to pay all the bills, but on a Batista's salary i could not.My car got repossessed, I fell further and further into debt, now I am at the point of chapter 6 and I really feel that it is the fault of the Starbucks management. Honestly who fires someone who has a newborn at home, The first year of your babys life is meant to be a time to remembered, but thanks to starbucks and the hell that they brought to my family, I wish it would all just go away.

Anita, Nov 2003"

I could go on, but fuck it. Ignorance is bliss, and who cares about people as long as you're good.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Dude, I worked at Starbucks for 3 years... 401k is bullshit, and the insurance is a joke.... meaning only the Managers get it. Also, [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]employees consistently receive 19.75 hours. 15 minutes shy of earning those costly benefits. Yay, Starbucks![/font][/quote]

So, to be clear, you have to be a manager to get benefits, but other employees have intentionally reduced hours to prevent them from getting benefits? Which is it? Also, is the reduced hours something you determined at your work, on your own schedule, or is there a company document/site bearing additional evidence I could look at? I don't doubt claims of a corporate behemoth manipulating employees for the company's financial benefit, but I'd like more proof first.

Also, my point isn't that SB benefits are *awesome*, but that, at the very least, they are *present*, which is more than you can say for most McJob holders.

About coffee, did you know that one venti (Italian for 20, as in 20 oz) cup of coffee pays for the whole pot? Interesting huh? Thats a 800% profit. Name other companies that turn that kind of profit. That gives you an idea of how much they actually pay these people in ethiopia for it...

Did you know that coffee beans are inside something that looks like a cherry? PIC BELOW.

See that tough skin? This is how coffee is made...

1st they have thousands of 5 cents an hour workers tear their hands up getting coffee off the plants with no tools... Then they have the workers spend grueling hours peeling the bean out of the berry... Then of course put in a basket and roasted in a crude roasting machine...
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If the profit margin on coffee wasn't high, they wouldn't be able to expand the way they did and do. That's not surprising at all. I'm also certain that they underpay the laborers; that's an industry standard, and something that "fair trade" coffee attempts to reconcile (to some degree). The only thing you or I can do to change this is to buy only fair trade. Other than that, I'm not certain that I can help organize Pancho Villa's rebellion from my cozy office. Although I'm skeptical about fixing the market on the consumer end (as bmulligan no doubt is screaming "NO SHIT YOU'RE SKEPTICAL!!!" at the monitor now ;) ), there is little else I can do to change things on the farmer's end, short of pray for/bitch at my congressmen about rescinding the various free trade agreements that help perpetuate low wages across borders.

[Random fact: The reason why Starbucks coffee tastes different is because they reroast the beans in america.]
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That must be why people with no taste say it's always "burnt."
[Random fact: The managers get bonuses for hiring people at lower wages]
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Not anything to be proud about, but also something of a standard in the low-skill, entrylevel workforce.
[Random Fact: Did you know that Starbucks charged the firemen and workers at the 9/11 site for water? Later, they said it was an oversight, but everyone who worked for Starbucks knew that it wasnt, as we were told we'd lose our jobs if we told anyone.]
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Write a book about it. Produce proof that it was intentional. That's a big claim to level on them, and if true, it will produce some severe backlash at them as a company (I would hope). Be a whistleblower, like Julia Roberts in that fuckin' movie.

Check out this sweet ad Starbucks churned up right after 9/11...Man that Dragonfly is about to cause a pointless war!
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Is there a point to this? Oooh, a large corporation is bad! Well, no shit. My point is that, in terms of treatment to their workers (based on my knowledge), they are somewhat "less bad" than your average McJob. I didn't say that you get a free Lexus every christmas, but that your wages and benefits are a slightly less stinky shit, compared to the giant throbbing floater that are the wages and benefits of other low-skill jobs.

Here's my point in a nutshell: given a choice between Starbucks, Wal-Mart, and McDonald's, where would you prefer to work, and why?

Starbucks is the new McDonalds ; [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] The Caramel Pecan Sticky Roll (which has more fat than a Big Mac) or even better (worse), the Eggnog Latte are so bad for you it is astounding[/font]. Check it out!
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It's fuckin' EGG NOG. No shit. Anyone purchasing food from an establishment like this or McD's is foolish to think it can't single-handedly cause cardiac arrest. What's that have to do with them being a bad company?

How many fat grams in my Venti Red Eye? ;)
[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]They have predatory business practices. Common practices are things like paying landlords to not renew leases for coffee shops so that they can move in. Awesome!

Nothing better than hearing these awesome stories! Welcome to Starbucks!
"[/font]I met my love of my life at Starbucks where we were both employed. When we first got together i asked my manager if this would be a problem and he said no. In December of 2003 I gave birth to a baby girl ( with less than a warm reaction from my stores partners) When I returned from my leave, I was told we couldn't work in the same store anymore, to make things right I transferred to The closest store (20 miles away) two weeks after transferring my old manager fired my boyfriend without reason (with a newborn at home mind you) I fearing for our finances asked to transfer back to save the 40 mile round trip, A request denied by my district manager for no reason. So there I am having to waste what little money we have to live on driving 40 miles a day. That wouldn't be so bad except that My boyfriend could not find a job because of negative references made by my former manager. My boyfriend was out of work for a year, And I tried to pay all the bills, but on a Batista's salary i could not.My car got repossessed, I fell further and further into debt, now I am at the point of chapter 6 and I really feel that it is the fault of the Starbucks management. Honestly who fires someone who has a newborn at home, The first year of your babys life is meant to be a time to remembered, but thanks to starbucks and the hell that they brought to my family, I wish it would all just go away.

Anita, Nov 2003"

I could go on, but fuck it. Ignorance is bliss, and who cares about people as long as you're good.
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I work with data; anecdotes don't impress me, especially anecdotes that seem to reveal more about the manager being a prick than anything about the corporation. I'm not discounting you entirely (yet), but I'd like to see some substantial proof that some of these terrible-horrible things are going on at the corporate level. Wal-Mart recently got a bunch of heat for send around a company memo discussing removing/reducing the number of employees under its health care policy. THAT's the kind of evidence I want to see. You've complained a great deal about Starbucks, and that's fine. It's what people do about shitjobs. You seem to have gotten into a hissyfit about how much you dislike Starbucks such that you missed my point entirely, that Starbucks treats its employees marginally better than other shit jobs; moreover, you started producing irrelevant items (the advertisement, the caloric content of sticky buns) and plain condescending knowledge (I'm aware of how coffee is made, silly).

I'm really in the mood for a double ristretto right now. That sounds like fuckin' *heaven*.
 
One thing I would like to know: how much calories/fat grams in Frappucinos (on average)? I get a kick out of picturing the everpresent cadre of scrawny-ass undergraduates (and their silly furry winterboots) as enormous whale-whores by the time they're 30 as a result of an all-Frappucino, low-yoga diet. Please tell me I'm right!
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Liberals think that starbucks is the devil, like western medicine. [/QUOTE]

Just curious - do you mean that liberals believe that

A) western medicinal corporations are the devil

or

B) the pharmaceutical drugs of western medicine are the devil

Personally, I think that the American health system relies too heavily on chemistry and drugs, and doesn't take into account the electrical forces running through the human body or the importance of diet, exercise, rest, etc

If someone thinks that all their bodily ills can be cured by a miracle pill, then I would submit that this person is the real sucker.
 
Wow, agreeing with camoor on the (B) point.

I have an honest question. If you've ever been to a psychiatrist, psychologist or known friends, family members or co-workers that have; have they ever walked away from that office without a prescription in hand?

American psychiatry is the pharmaceutical industry's cash cow.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Wow, agreeing with camoor on the (B) point.

I have an honest question. If you've ever been to a psychiatrist, psychologist or known friends, family members or co-workers that have; have they ever walked away from that office without a prescription in hand?

American psychiatry is the pharmaceutical industry's cash cow.[/QUOTE]

I agree in part. (And honestly, I'm not saying this to be argumentative just because it's you, PAD).

I think a lot of kids are being doped up on ritalin and the like for the simple crime of being kids with lazy parents. Rather than prescribe these drugs, the psychiatrists should be giving the adults a dope slap and yelling, "They're kids, stupid!"

On the other hand, my wife has a genuine chemical imbalance for which she takes a seratonin replacement drug. This is due to a genetic condition she inherited from her mother. Without this drug she suffers from uncontrollable rages (no cheap jokes about living with me, please, PAD -- oh, hell, go ahead, they're probably correct anyway). With the drug she's happy, healthy, well-adjusted.

So I can't go along with a blanket condemnation of psychopharmaceuticals, but I wish they were used more judiciously by the medical profession.
 
[quote name='camoor']Just curious - do you mean that liberals believe that

A) western medicinal corporations are the devil

or

B) the pharmaceutical drugs of western medicine are the devil

Personally, I think that the American health system relies too heavily on chemistry and drugs, and doesn't take into account the electrical forces running through the human body or the importance of diet, exercise, rest, etc

If someone thinks that all their bodily ills can be cured by a miracle pill, then I would submit that this person is the real sucker.[/QUOTE]

I mean it all like in a overexagerrated but still mostly true kinda way... just that for example; Liberals dont feel that kids need ridilin cause they're kids and they're hyperactive. They just need some fucking spankings or time out. Maybe not spankings if your too hippish... then just a time out in a room with no sharp edges... =)

Personally, I feel nothing hits home like an old fashion ass-wuppin... because no ones above and ass-wuppin... but others seem to think that kids dont need spankings anymore.

In 1954, kids never screamed at their mother "Just give me some fucking chocolate milk bitch!!" and there were some "beat-ass-red" reasons why.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Wow, agreeing with camoor on the (B) point.

I have an honest question. If you've ever been to a psychiatrist, psychologist or known friends, family members or co-workers that have; have they ever walked away from that office without a prescription in hand?

American psychiatry is the pharmaceutical industry's cash cow.[/QUOTE]
Just pointing out a technicality, psychologists are not allowed to prescribe meds in most states. However, I do believe there is a problem with too much prescription use. It's not just psychiatry however, most people can get meds from their family doctor for psychological problems.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']'starbucks is good'[/QUOTE]
From all the big coffee drinkers I've talked to, I've usually heard that starbucks tastes gross. That's beside the point.

I've walked away from a psychiatrist without a prescription. Only prescriptions I've taken for anything chronic was one for Prilosec/Prevacid for a chronic stomach problem that doctors have not figured out which started back when I started school. No, diet was not an issue, since I have a reasonably balanced diet.
 
There are tons of liberals in starbucks around here, then again we don't have local coffee roasters. There are a few in new hampshire but they're average. There's one south/west of boston and they're have the best quality coffee I've tasted (red barn coffee), but I'm not in the area often and they all close at 5, meaning when I am there they're usually closed. I can't even get to a starbucks unless I drive 15 minutes, in my area its either dunkin donuts or gas stations and I never buy coffee at either. There was another chain called "nancy's coffee" that is primarily in NY but had one shop in nashua, nh. They used to have this odd winter coffee that had a white coating to it, very good. Now starbucks bought that location (not sure if the ones in NY are still there).

Though there simply aren't enough high quality beans for starbucks to be able to surpass the upper tier of small roasters. But it really depends on where you are, some areas are devoid of local roasters, others are just lacking in quality roasters.

Liberals dont feel that kids need ridilin cause they're kids and they're hyperactive. They just need some ing spankings or time out.
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I doubt thats a liberal form of parenting, thats more of a conservative form, particularly spankings.

Medicine is overprescribed in many cases, but simply because we have better understanding of psychological problems now doesn't mean an increase in prescriptions is necessarily bad. We missed many genuine problems previously then and now we too readily prescribe medication (even when there is a problem sometimes it can be dealt with in other ways), but saying "kids will be kids" like they used to is worse than what we have now. I think most people who complain about too many prescriptions wants it to go to an unrealistically low amount.

Oh, and psychologists can't prescribe medicine, even though PAD thinks they can. You want meds you need to go to a psychiatrist.

In 1954, kids never screamed at their mother "Just give me some ing chocolate milk bitch!!" and there were some "beat-ass-red" reasons why.
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But the point of parenting is to raise healthy, well adjusted children. Just because they learned how not to get beaten doesn't mean that had a better result in the long run.

Theres also the whole aspect of people trying to appear normal above all else, hiding their problems, and it now becoming more acceptable to seek help. In the current atmosphere you are going to hear more about problems than you would have in the 50's.
 
Thank you professor literal, if I knew it was gonna be this type of thread I would of stuck my dick in the mashed potatoes.

[quote name='alonzomourning23']There are tons of liberals in starbucks around here, then again we don't have local coffee roasters. There are a few in new hampshire but they're average. There's one south/west of boston and they're have the best quality coffee I've tasted (red barn coffee), but I'm not in the area often and they all close at 5, meaning when I am there they're usually closed. I can't even get to a starbucks unless I drive 15 minutes, in my area its either dunkin donuts or gas stations and I never buy coffee at either. There was another chain called "nancy's coffee" that is primarily in NY but had one shop in nashua, nh. They used to have this odd winter coffee that had a white coating to it, very good. Now starbucks bought that location (not sure if the ones in NY are still there).

Though there simply aren't enough high quality beans for starbucks to be able to surpass the upper tier of small roasters. But it really depends on where you are, some areas are devoid of local roasters, others are just lacking in quality roasters.



I doubt thats a liberal form of parenting, thats more of a conservative form, particularly spankings.

Medicine is overprescribed in many cases, but simply because we have better understanding of psychological problems now doesn't mean an increase in prescriptions is necessarily bad. We missed many genuine problems previously then and now we too readily prescribe medication (even when there is a problem sometimes it can be dealt with in other ways), but saying "kids will be kids" like they used to is worse than what we have now. I think most people who complain about too many prescriptions wants it to go to an unrealistically low amount.

Oh, and psychologists can't prescribe medicine, even though PAD thinks they can. You want meds you need to go to a psychiatrist.



But the point of parenting is to raise healthy, well adjusted children. Just because they learned how not to get beaten doesn't mean that had a better result in the long run.

Theres also the whole aspect of people trying to appear normal above all else, hiding their problems, and it now becoming more acceptable to seek help. In the current atmosphere you are going to hear more about problems than you would have in the 50's.[/QUOTE]
 
Now reports are saying that the previous police accounts of the "bomb" containing a quarter-stick of dynamite are incorrect. Turns out it was just a flashlight. Dipshits.

Starbucks 'bomb' was only a flashlight
Friday, January 13, 2006


SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- What authorities thought was a bomb in a Starbucks coffee shop turned out to be a flashlight casing, police said Thursday.

A forensic analysis "revealed the absence of any explosive material," a police statement said.

Police initially said the device found in the store's bathroom Monday was powerful enough to seriously injure or kill someone if it had exploded. Police evacuated about 100 people from the Starbucks and apartments above it.

A man arrested on suspicion of planting an explosive device, Ronald Schouten, was still being held Thursday on an unrelated burglary charge. But police said his explanation on how the flashlight ended up in the coffee shop was credible.

Schouten, 44, told KPIX-TV that he found the flashlight in the street and accidentally dropped it in the bathroom.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/13/starbucks.no.bomb.ap/index.html

The police should be trained to investigate this before making any public announcements.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Wow, agreeing with camoor on the (B) point.

I have an honest question. If you've ever been to a psychiatrist, psychologist or known friends, family members or co-workers that have; have they ever walked away from that office without a prescription in hand?

American psychiatry is the pharmaceutical industry's cash cow.[/QUOTE]

Yes, to clarify I don't believe the drugs are the devil, but I 100% agree that most of practicing American psychiatry today seems to be go in, get a pill, come home happy. Every time Tom Cruise starts going off on the topic, I have to yell at the TV "Shut up Tom, you're not helping the cause!" I like Dennis Leary's take better:

"I'm just not happy. I'm just not happy. I'm just not happy because my life didn't turn out the way I thought it would." Hey! Join the fucking club, ok!? I thought I was going to be the starting center fielder for the Boston Red Socks. Life sucks, get a fucking helmet, allright?! "I'm not happy. I'm not happy." Nobody's happy, ok!? Happiness comes in small doses folks. It's a cigarette, or a chocolate cookie, or a five second orgasm. That's it, ok! You cum, you eat the cookie, you smoke the butt, you go to sleep, you get up in the morning and go to fucking work, ok!? That is it! End of fucking list! "I'm just not happy." Shut the fuck up, allright? That's the name of my new book, "Shut the fuck Up, by Doctor Denis Leary. A revolutionary new form of therapy." I'm gonna have my patients come in. "Doctor, I.." "Shut the fuck up, next!" "I don't feel so.." "Shut the fuck up, next!" "He made me feel so much better about myself, you know? He just told me to shut the fuck up and nobody had ever told me that before. I feel so much better now." Whining fucking maggots.
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This is ridiculous. They were even telling the media there was a fuse on the "bomb".

"I love that Starbucks," Schouten said in an interview with the station. "The people are saints. They know I'm homeless. They let me drink coffee for 50 cents. I love those people."
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181524,00.html

They put a homeless guy through all that just because they can't tell the difference between a bomb and a flashlight? Disgusting.
 
I love how they throw a pot away every 2 hours, but still actually charge a man without a home for coffee. Most local coffee shops just have them come in and sweep the floor or something.
 
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