Bomb suspect's family 'shattered'

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Only some of this is relevant, the rest just talks about efforts to find the attackers and prevent future incidents, I didn't include those sections.

The uncle of one of the suspected London suicide bombers said his family had been "left shattered" by the news.
Bashir Ahmed, 65, could not believe Shehzad Tanweer, who studied religion in Pakistan, was responsible. "It must have been forces behind him," he said.........

Mr Ahmed said his nephew - who he last saw the day before the bombings - went to Pakistan for two months earlier this year to study religion.

When asked how he felt when police told them his nephew had not been a victim but may have perpetrated the bombings Mr Ahmed broke down, saying: "We have lost everything we have."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4679001.stm
 
"Hello, your nephew just blew himself into 51,391 pieces on a London subway, killing 25 people. We are trying to scoop him up, and he should be delivered to you next tuesday."
 
Hmmmm, I live in Britain, have a good life, the country has some of the finest Universities in the world (Oxford, Cambridge, London School of Economics) but I have a great idea!

Let's send our kid to a third world shithole where terrorists are known to infest Madrasses so he can "study religion".

fucking dumb asses. Either they knew or are too damn stupid to handle living on planet Earth. Good riddance to terrorist scum and maybe this tale will wake up other British Muslims not to send their kids to Pakistan, again, how stupid do you really have to be, for "religous education".
 
Uh, PAD, the bomber was not a kid, he was an adult, and an uncle is not a parent.

Why did you imediately blame the parents?

*gets couch*

Did you have any issues with you mother? Or perhaps your father?
 
Bashir Ahmed, 65, the uncle of Shehzad Tanweer, said: "The family is shattered. This is a terrible thing."

Mr Ahmed said it was hard for the family to accept their son had caused such loss of life, adding: "It wasn't him. It must have been forces behind him."

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As you can see denial isn't a trait just found in America when youth goes wrong. Hello fuckface, it was him. It wasn't "forces behind him" your little nephew...
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Ahem.... adult nephew was terrorist scum. Your family is dumb as D...E.... R...T... (Purposely mispelled to illustrate stupidity.) for sending him to Pakistan.

Also in the linked article....

THE TEACHER BOMBER

One of the bombers who brought carnage to London taught disabled children, it has emerged.

Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, of Dewsbury, was a supply teaching assistant who taught disabled children in Beeston, it has been revealed.
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A picture of him carried on the front page of The Times shows the bearded bomber caring for young children at the school.


Islam is the enemy within. Internment debates are just a few bombings away.
 
Many parents have no say if there 19 or 20 year old decides to go on vacation. And most parents have some trust in their kids. If I had gone home and told my parents I was going to amsterdam, they don't assume I'm gonna OD on heroine.

Though, internment camps, do we kill em or just work em to death?

I swear half the time the only thing american people like you care about is piece of cloth our flag is printed on.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Islam is the enemy within. Internment debates are just a few bombings away.[/QUOTE]
Like the germans in the early 1900s and the Japanese in World War 2?

Every single last one of the was the enemy, out to destroy America. Yes, my optometrist is going to destroy America, right after she checks my eyes and perscribes glasses so I can better view my own demise.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Many parents have no say if there 19 or 20 year old decides to go on vacation. And most parents have some trust in their kids. If I had gone home and told my parents I was going to amsterdam, they don't assume I'm gonna OD on heroine.[/QUOTE]

How many 19 or 20 year olds have the financial wherewithal to afford a trip, without family help, 6,000 miles away from home. Not many. Add to that he was going to be a student and unable to work in a foreign country. So on top of the trip he would need at least some money for minimal tuition, books, place to live, food, spending money etc.

Does this sound like something a 19 or 20 year old could do without his family helping him every step of the way.

Nope.
 
Yeah, They are shattered.

Shattered that they haven't recieved their check from Osama for their kids "martyrdom"
 
Al Qaeda has unlimited financial resources, I'm sure their operatives don't have to bum plane tickets off their parents.

And Al Qaeda doesn't pay people for "martyrdom", you are confusing them with the political terrorist goup Hamas which used to pay terrorists' families in return for attacking targets.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']How many 19 or 20 year olds have the financial wherewithal to afford a trip, without family help, 6,000 miles away from home. Not many. Add to that he was going to be a student and unable to work in a foreign country. So on top of the trip he would need at least some money for minimal tuition, books, place to live, food, spending money etc.

Does this sound like something a 19 or 20 year old could do without his family helping him every step of the way.

Nope.[/QUOTE]

I could have done it, and my best friend also could have done it. Accomodations and living costs in pakistan are very cheap, especially if you aren't a tourist (most places jack up prices for people who are clearly international tourists) or in a tourist area. If you have a half decent job, or know how to manage your money, it can be done. Also, I don't see where it said he was going there as a college student, there's a difference. A madrassa is run differently than a college you or I would attend.

Also, if you know the right people (and in certain countries) you can work. I used to know someone in toronto who spent 2 years travelling asia and europe after high school, all on his own money. He was often working that time, and spent about 6 months working in the u.k. He worked legally in the u.k. (though some countries, like canada, you can't).

Besides, going to study your religion in a place that is your religion isn't especially alarming. Again, unless you have a history showing otherwise, most people aren't going to expect you to engulf yourself in the worst of the place.
 
Why does it not surprise me that everyone except scrubking is denying any family involvement outside the bomber himself? It never ceases to amaze me the mental gymnastics you people will go through to deny the depth of Islamic extremeism.

You know, real extremeism? The kind that leads to beheadings, murders of children, diplomats, civillians and the innocent? Then in the same thoughts you can label right leaning political tendencies as extemeism. Do you really think that tax cuts, supporting the Constitution, placement of the 10 Commandments in some public places is the equivilent of extremeism?

It's amazing how none of you realize how stupid you truly look when you use the words you do. It's no wonder I can show your posts to people and they laugh louder than at the comics page in the daily newspapers.

Here is the face of your enemy. If a Special Ed teacher is a terrorist who couldn't be.
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[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Why does it not surprise me that everyone except scrubking is denying any family involvement outside the bomber himself? It never ceases to amaze me the mental gymnastics you people will go through to deny the depth of Islamic extremeism.

You know, real extremeism? The kind that leads to beheadings, murders of children, diplomats, civillians and the innocent? Then in the same thoughts you can label right leaning political tendencies as extemeism. Do you really think that tax cuts, supporting the Constitution, placement of the 10 Commandments in some public places is the equivilent of extremeism?

It's amazing how none of you realize how stupid you truly look when you use the words you do. It's no wonder I can show your posts to people and they laugh louder than at the comics page in the daily newspapers.

Here is the face of your enemy. If a Special Ed teacher is a terrorist who couldn't be.
cpx8f
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You don't realize it, but you essentially are calling scrubking stupid in this rant.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']Islam is the enemy within.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='Ann Coulter']We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.[/QUOTE]

Well, it seems that actually Christianity is the enemy within...

Or maybe, just maybe, is it possible that there are wackos belonging to more than one religion?
 
[quote name='eldad9']Well, it seems that actually Christianity is the enemy within...

Or maybe, just maybe, is it possible that there are wackos belonging to more than one religion?[/QUOTE]

A wacko is a wacko is a wacko. It just happens than majority are Islamic.
 
[quote name='Rich']A wacko is a wacko is a wacko. It just happens than majority are Islamic.[/QUOTE]

That's can happen when you push a group into a corner, and basically trample over them. Remember, the incorrectly labelled "father" of modern terrorism copied the tactics of the zionists who, partially anyway, achieved their goal of Israel, and they were anything but islamic. Terrorism worked in the past, and it's a much more effective tactic for an underpowered, weak population, since they have no hope at outright military confrontation.

Though if you want to look at christians, just go south into uganda. You don't get any more bloodthirsty than the lord's resistance army.
 
Of coarse you bring Christians into the mix, why wouldn't you!

I said majority. I didn't say all. Nice attempt at a Christian attack though; I half expected it.
 
[quote name='Rich']Of coarse you bring Christians into the mix, why wouldn't you!

I said majority. I didn't say all. Nice attempt at a Christian attack though; I half expected it.[/QUOTE]

Of course I would, usually the ones who attack islam are the same who exhalt christianity, so it's only logical to attempt to bring the other down a notch. Besides, my argument is that under the same internal and external pressures a similar response is likely (with religion playing a role in the end, but not the root cause), and they were evidence to that effect. Though, your indignation at my inclusion of christians is suprising, considering you have no comment on my inclusion of another religious group.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Of course I would, usually the ones who attack islam are the same who exhalt christianity, so it's only logical to attempt to bring the other down a notch. Besides, my argument is that under the same internal and external pressures a similar response is likely (with religion playing a role in the end, but not the root cause), and they were evidence to that effect. Though, your indignation at my inclusion of christians is suprising, considering you have no comment on my inclusion of another religious group.[/QUOTE]

Because majority ARE of the other group. And I've already said a wacko is a wacko is a wacko, but that was conveniently ignored.

And I exhalt Christianity? I hate religion. All of it. Baptists more than anything. I just think Christianity is the lesser of two evils at this point in time.

And no fucking pressures justify terrorism, regardless of how much you want to validate the actions of Muslim terrorists.
 
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