"Both products must be purchased on the same receipt to get rebate."

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REBATE DEAL: Buy Logitech Diving Force Pro + GT4, and get $20 back.



- I bought both.
- I received them.
- I filled out the rebate form.

- Then I noticed fine print said "must be the same receipt", buried inside a long paragraph.
- I was pissed.
- So I used digital editing to combine both receipts into one.



I consider Logitech's tactic of hiding *important info inside a paragraph* comparable to those Ebay Scam Artists who hide "shipping=$25" inside lengthy paragraphs. It's dishonest & deliberately mis-leading, in order to scam the customer.

The info should have been in LARGE PRINT, not fine print, nor hidden inside a paragraph.

troy
 
[quote name='Kain Vincent']Isn't that fraud?[/QUOTE]

Yea, it is.

OP didn't read the fine print and still felt he deserved a $20 dollar rebate after not reading the whole rebate, so he forged one out.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']OP didn't read the fine print and still felt he deserved a $20 dollar rebate after not reading the whole rebate, so he forged one out.[/QUOTE]


It was a *stupid* restriction. What does it matter if I bought Wheel + GT4 from two separate stores?

Not one iota.

Also, it should have been in LARGE print, not fine print, so customers don't make the same mistake I made.

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']It was a *stupid* restriction. What does it matter if I bought Wheel + GT4 from two separate stores?

Not one iota.

troy[/QUOTE]

And you were the one stupid enough to not read the fine print?

Apparently it does matter, since the rebate says they have to be purchased on the same receipt. You just didn't bother to read that far, and still think you "deserve" to get the rebate.

Might as well just lock this thread - next time you should think before you do something as stupid as admitting to fraud.
 
Putting that restriction in fine print, where it's hard to see, is deliberately misleading & dishonest on the part of Logitech. No doubt, they did that on purpose, so they could reject rebates.

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']Putting that restriction in fine print, where it's hard to see, is deliberately misleading & dishonest on the part of Logitech.

troy[/QUOTE]

So one bad turn deserves another, I guess?

That's a great sense of ethics.
 
YES.

It should have been in LARGE print, not fine print, so customers don't make the same mistake I made, of buying from 2 different stores.

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I often hear people on this forum complain about Ebayers who "hide" information (example: shipping = $25) in the middle of a long paragraph. It's considered dishonest.

That is what Logitech did with this rebate form. Also dishonest. No doubt, they did that on purpose, so they could reject rebates.

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']YES.

It should have been in LARGE print, not fine print, so customers don't make the same mistake I made, of buying from 2 different stores.

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I often hear people on this forum complain about Ebayers who "hide" information (example: shipping = $25) in the middle of a long paragraph. It's considered dishonest.

That is what Logitech did with this rebate form. Also dishonest. No doubt, they did that on purpose, so they could reject rebates.

troy[/QUOTE]

Why're you bitching about it on here? Why not call/email Logitech and make you displeasure known with them? Since they're the ones who are putting out the rebate, they might actually do something about it.
 
[quote name='electrictroy']YES.

It should have been in LARGE print, not fine print, so customers don't make the same mistake I made, of buying from 2 different stores.

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I often hear people on this forum complain about Ebayers who "hide" information (example: shipping = $25) in the middle of a long paragraph. It's considered dishonest.

That is what Logitech did with this rebate form. Also dishonest. No doubt, they did that on purpose, so they could reject rebates.

troy[/QUOTE]

You're saying that it's dishonest because they used a small font? Did they hide it in the middle of the paragraph? Or was it just small?

Either way, you have no room to complain. Cry that it's dishonest all you want, but EVERY REBATE has fine print. You know this, and you probably saw it. You chose not to read it, so you are responsible for not getting your rebate. Logitech is not dishonest, you're just a whiner.
 
[quote name='Mookyjooky']Electric Troy's Threads are the most annoying around. I'm not waiting around for him to change the OP again.

Ignore....[/QUOTE]

Good, I'm not the only one.
 
[quote name='KingSpike']You're saying that it's dishonest because they used a small font? Did they hide it in the middle of the paragraph? [/QUOTE] Yes. And Yes. I did read the rebate form, prior to purchase, but I happened to miss that one word "same". Out of some ~200 words on the form, there's only one place that says "same receipt," and it is easily missed.

I feel absolutely NO guilt, because I bought both the Wheel + GT4, and Logitech got a little richer via that purchase.

I deserve to get the "$20 off" sale price that was advertised.

troy
 
Er, it's common practice to require it be the same receipt for multiple purchase rebates like that one. There is nothing dishonest about it. At least nothing more dishonest than fine print in general. You're just rationalizing your act of fraud. I hope you get caught.
 
Wow, we have a winner. I hope you feel as special as your mommy told you you are, now that you beat "The Man" :roll:

Seriously, why not call them? As much as you seem to believe otherwise, most companies are willing to work with you/make exceptions if it means more business. It's very possible they would have taken your information down, and stuck a flag on your file saying that the rebate was fine even though the proper credentials weren't included.

But I suppose that's too much work for a "1337 H4XX0R" like yourself.
 
[quote name='b0bx13']Seriously, why not call them? As much as you seem to believe otherwise, most companies are willing to work with you/make exceptions if it means more business. [/QUOTE]

Now you see, HERE is a decent person. Instead of attacking me & accusing me of fraud, BOX13 actually tried to HELP ME with some useful advice.



Why can't the rest of you be FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL like Box 13?

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']Now you see, HERE is a decent person. Instead of attacking me & accusing me of fraud, BOX13 actually tried to HELP ME with some useful advice.



Why can't the rest of you be FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL like Box 13?

troy[/QUOTE]

Dont committ fraud. Dont have a sense of entitlement when you ARENT entitled to something. Try morals on for size, you might be surprised at how far they can take you.

Helpful.Friendly.Honest.Advice.
 
[quote name='electrictroy']Why can't the rest of you be FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL like Box 13?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, but I'm still a little ticked over you pointlessly dissing GCN a few days ago and then arguing about DC being "better" than PS2 (before completely changing the argument to specs.). As part troll and part fanboy, you may be best left to your own devices. Afterall, why would any rational person want to help you?
 
[quote name='shrike4242']Why're you bitching about it on here? Why not call/email Logitech and make you displeasure known with them? Since they're the ones who are putting out the rebate, they might actually do something about it.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='electrictroy']Now you see, HERE is a decent person. Instead of attacking me & accusing me of fraud, BOX13 actually tried to HELP ME with some useful advice.

Why can't the rest of you be FRIENDLY AND HELPFUL like Box 13?

troy[/QUOTE]

I guess he must have me on ignore, since I think that's what I suggested as well, call Logitech and make your displeasure known. And when did I attack you and call you out for fraud? :roll:
 
That is fraud man, dont do much of it because you will get in serious trouble , who am i to judge you but samurai x , so i won't , just be careful because they see things you don't think they see !
 
I was not excluding you shrike. I just didn't see your post.



I just called Logitech about the rebate, and talked calmly & rationally, explaining that I didn't see the "same receipt" in the fine print, but I still bought BOTH the Wheel + GT4.

They said "too bad".

I said, I consider putting *important info in fine print & hidden inside a long paragraph* to be dishonest. I said it's as though you're trying to deliberately trick the customer into buying a wheel + game, and then not giving "$20 off" as promised, because of a hidden technicality.

They said, "I'm sorry. We can do nothing."

I said, again calmly & rationally, I will return the wheel + game, and never buy Logitech again, if tricking customers (via hiding crucial information) is there usual method of business.

They said, "Okay. Anything else you need?"




Then I hung up.

troy
 
You mean...you couldn't even think of calling Logitech yourself?

And for future reference, most people know exactly how tricky rebates can be. Next time ask before you buy.
 
Don't let some folks bust your balls I would have done the same thing because that's a pretty lame restriction, rebates are already hard enough to get as it is, and since it really makes you no difference whether you went to one store or bought them at separate stores. You still gave them their money and legitimately bought their products, more power to you. For the moral portion of our show I guess you could have wasted more gas and time to return both and then ring both up at the same store. Alright now I'm going to my lunch break :lol:
 
Take the $20 loss as a lesson learned the hard way. I'm sure that you'll now read the "fine" print on all future documents. Just be glad that it was only a $20 rebate and not a job or loan contract, where not reading the fine print could cause serious financial ruin.
 
[quote name='opportunity777']I would have done the same thing because that's a pretty lame restriction, rebates are already hard enough to get as it is, and since it really makes you no difference whether you went to one store or bought them at separate stores. You still gave them their money and legitimately bought their products[/quote]Thanks!



For the moral portion of our show I guess you could have wasted more gas and time to return both and then ring both up at the same store.
HA! Funny. I would have had to waste $25 + $5 shipping the Wheel + Game to separate stores, and then another $25 re-ordering it & shipping it back as one purchase.

A total of $55 wasted in shipping costs.
troy
 
Well, atleast you called Logitech. I really doubt they said 'too bad'. They may have said 'Sorry, it clearly states ....", but I doubt it was just as simple as 'too bad'.

Take $20, go buy yourself a bag of candy and pop, and keep making these quality posts that we've all come to love.
 
The reason that they require you to buy both items on the same receipt and a t the same location is because the stores are buying both items at once, probably at a slightly reduced rate than they normally would pay. If you just buy one of the items from the store, the store may end up with excess of one of the items and want a refund for the excess from the manufacturer if they cannot sell it. Obviously the manufacturer does not want this to happen so they added that line to the rebate form. I doubt Logitech was intentionally trying to mislead anyone. There simply are a lot of legal disclaimers and requirements they need to spell out by law to prevent them getting sued. Its the nature of the beast sometimes.
 
Damn, sorry about that, I didn't mean to come off as useful...I was just showing the non dumbfuck approach. Sorry for the confusion troy.
 
[quote name='greendj27']The reason that they require you to buy both items on the same receipt and at the same location, is because the stores are buying both items at once, probably at a slightly reduced rate than they normally would pay. [/QUOTE]
Having worked in Retail for 10+ years, that's simply not true. The stores have no connection to this deal. None. This is a *manufacturer's sale* - direct from Logitech to the customer.

troy
 
[quote name='electrictroy']Having worked in Retail for 10+ years, that's simply not true. The stores have no connection to this deal. None. This is a *manufacturer's sale* - direct from Logitech to the customer.

troy[/QUOTE]

10 years? How old ARE you?
 
[quote name='shrike4242']I guess he must have me on ignore, since I think that's what I suggested as well, call Logitech and make your displeasure known. And when did I attack you and call you out for fraud? :roll:[/QUOTE]

:rofl: He can't shrike, it's the power of your modness.:bow:

And what a worthless thread, normally when you have problems like this you call the company and then later bitch when they don't kiss your pompous ass.
 
[quote name='electrictroy']I was not excluding you shrike. I just didn't see your post.[/QUOTE]

Does anyone else see the irony in this? Is it just me?
 
Man, it's people like you that make my customer service job shitty. You're the kind of person that has a problem with me telling you "only x can be done" when x is clearly stated in the gaurantee, terms, conditions, and warranty.

I suggest you go to the offtopic forum and find the "why do you yell at CSR?" thread and read my long rant there about how it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, as a CONSUMER, to inform YOURSELF BEFORE THE POINT OF SALE.

I'm done here.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']:rofl: He can't shrike, it's the power of your modness.:bow:

And what a worthless thread, normally when you have problems like this you call the company and then later bitch when they don't kiss your pompous ass.[/QUOTE]

Kinda OT - Can we ignore mods? I've never tried it before...hmmm...Regardless, I have no problems with any mods...just a few individuals...however, one just dissapeared (DennisDF), who knows where he went...mayb he got stuck in a 'suck vortex'?
 
[quote name='javeryh']Does anyone else see the irony in this? Is it just me?[/QUOTE]

Nope, I saw it too XD

The stores have no connection to this deal. None. This is a *manufacturer's sale* - direct from Logitech to the customer.

Yes, perhaps that's why they require it to be on the same receipt.
 
Since this has turned into another electrictroy vs. the world situation, plus he's called them and they've told him no, he can't get the rebate, further conversation on this point seems, frankly, pointless.

Thread locked.
 
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