I was wondering what people think of George W. using images of 9/11 in television ads for his re-election. Considering in 2002 he said he would not use 9/11 for political gain, I believe it is a cheap shot and an insult to all of the families who lost loved ones during the attack.
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magilacudy
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I hate Bush, but looking at the possible candidates for next election I don't think there could be any possible improvement.
Both sides are going to use 9/11 to their advantages. If you guys don't like Bush, then I suggest you don't vote for Kerry, considering he voted for every measure that Bush put through Congress -- tax cuts, Iraq war, patriot act, no child left behind. He also voted for NAFTA back in 1994. It wil be a long election year.
Well, the line on betonsports.com has it like this:
Which candidate will win the U.S. Presidential Election in 2004?
George W. Bush -200
John Kerry +150
Who will win the next US Presidential election?
Republicans -200
Democrats +150
For the non-gamblers that give a shit I will explain how to read the lines after lunch.
Which candidate will win the U.S. Presidential Election in 2004?
George W. Bush -200
John Kerry +150
Who will win the next US Presidential election?
Republicans -200
Democrats +150
For the non-gamblers that give a shit I will explain how to read the lines after lunch.
The-Bavis
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I think it was done as tastefully as possible, and it calls to mind the fact that he was a strong leader during the defining moment of his presidency. It should be the most important issue of this election. Has Bush handled the situation well? Will Kerry(or Nader, I guess) handle it as well or better? Yes, other issues are important, but before I care about getting a small check in the mail when I retire or getting cheap drugs, I want to feel as confident as possible that some Jihad @sshole ain't gonna be blowin' up our cities!
E-Z-B
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If bush stays in office another four years, you won't have to worry about that small check in the mail when you retire. First, social security will be gone, second, the economy and the stock market will be in the crapper, and third, you won't be able to retire until you're 80 at this rate. Chances are, you'll be dead before then.
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Nader may end up ruining it again for the democrats. I don't understand the people that will vote for him...they must be either too dense to realize or too idealistic to care that Nader can't win, and that his entering the race only makes it more likely that the lesser-of-two-evils is going to lose.
Bonesman vs. bonesman. Bad vs. worse. Is this what we've come to?
Bonesman vs. bonesman. Bad vs. worse. Is this what we've come to?
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[quote name='Atreadon']Is this what we've come to?[/quote]
I'm afraid so, and remember that nearly half the country voted for the bonehead currently in office in the last election, and he's enjoyed a republican congress and mostly record-high approval ratings since then. You too can be a C student at a college your parents bought your way into and go on to become president. Or, you could be a steroid-using musclehead from Austria and go on to become a multi-million dollar action movie star and governor of California. Love the opportunity here!
I'm afraid so, and remember that nearly half the country voted for the bonehead currently in office in the last election, and he's enjoyed a republican congress and mostly record-high approval ratings since then. You too can be a C student at a college your parents bought your way into and go on to become president. Or, you could be a steroid-using musclehead from Austria and go on to become a multi-million dollar action movie star and governor of California. Love the opportunity here!
BABETOOTH
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I hope that Nader doesnt ruin it for the Dems as he did last time. He knows he cant win but he could get enough votes to make a difference. I hope people dont fall for that again. If you do not want the "Religious Right" running this country vote for Kerry. He is not my favorite but now a days you have to choose between the lesser of 2 evils.
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Bonesman vs. bonesman. Bad vs. worse. Is this what we've come to?[/quote]
Are you just now realizing this? We got lucky with Clinton. Everyone voted for him because Bush Sr. was a washout. (Like father like son?) Our country prospered under Clinton despite the various scandals. Let's just hope that Kerry is as good as Clinton, or at the very least, half as bad as Bush Jr.
FYI: I voted for Bush Jr. and he let me (and this country) down so I can rip on him all I want.
Bonesman vs. bonesman. Bad vs. worse. Is this what we've come to?[/quote]
Are you just now realizing this? We got lucky with Clinton. Everyone voted for him because Bush Sr. was a washout. (Like father like son?) Our country prospered under Clinton despite the various scandals. Let's just hope that Kerry is as good as Clinton, or at the very least, half as bad as Bush Jr.
FYI: I voted for Bush Jr. and he let me (and this country) down so I can rip on him all I want.
optimusprime
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[quote name='E-Z-B']That was disgusting using the images of the murder of 3,000 people to launch & promote a re-election campaign.[/quote]
And how do you feel about Kerry using his Vietnam service as an issue? How many Americans died there? 50,000?
And how do you feel about Kerry using his Vietnam service as an issue? How many Americans died there? 50,000?
The-Bavis
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[quote name='E-Z-B']If bush stays in office another four years, you won't have to worry about that small check in the mail when you retire. First, social security will be gone, second, the economy and the stock market will be in the crapper, and third, you won't be able to retire until you're 80 at this rate. Chances are, you'll be dead before then.[/quote]
Oh, I'll be retiring long before 80. I consider social security to be non-existent and take care of myself without the government holding my hand, thank you very much.
The rest of your predictions are just kooky.
Oh, I'll be retiring long before 80. I consider social security to be non-existent and take care of myself without the government holding my hand, thank you very much.
The rest of your predictions are just kooky.
E-Z-B
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[quote name='optimusprime'][quote name='E-Z-B']That was disgusting using the images of the murder of 3,000 people to launch & promote a re-election campaign.[/quote]
And how do you feel about Kerry using his Vietnam service as an issue? How many Americans died there? 50,000?[/quote]
The difference is he's not showing people being slaughtered for his own political gain in his election bid.
And how do you feel about Kerry using his Vietnam service as an issue? How many Americans died there? 50,000?[/quote]
The difference is he's not showing people being slaughtered for his own political gain in his election bid.
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[quote name='ZForce317']George W. Bush is the worst president we've ever had. [/quote]
That's a pretty bold statement.....there have been some pretty crappy presidents: Jimmy Carter (double-digit inflation, gasoline lines, Iran hostage crisis), Nixon (impeached-Watergate), Andrew Johnson (impeached, quasi-white supremacist), Clinton (impeached, worst moral/ethical example to hold office ever - somehow he gets a free pass as a result of the great economy he presided over, but that was basically all driven by Y2k capital spending and the .com boom).
Care to back it up?
That's a pretty bold statement.....there have been some pretty crappy presidents: Jimmy Carter (double-digit inflation, gasoline lines, Iran hostage crisis), Nixon (impeached-Watergate), Andrew Johnson (impeached, quasi-white supremacist), Clinton (impeached, worst moral/ethical example to hold office ever - somehow he gets a free pass as a result of the great economy he presided over, but that was basically all driven by Y2k capital spending and the .com boom).
Care to back it up?
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[quote name='optimusprime'][quote name='ZForce317']George W. Bush is the worst president we've ever had. [/quote]
Care to back it up?[/quote]
Love to!
GEORGE W. BUSH RESUME (2003)
The White House, USA
* ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
* I attacked and took over two countries.
* I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
* I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
* I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
* I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
* I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
* I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV.
* I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history.
* I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
* I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
* I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
* I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
* I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
* I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
* I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* I withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
* I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
* I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
* I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
* I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.
* I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
* I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
* RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
* I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
* I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
* I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father¹s library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
* PERSONAL REFERENCES:
* For personal references, please speak to my dad or uncle James Baker (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle Group where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and plan for the next one.)
Care to back it up?[/quote]
Love to!
GEORGE W. BUSH RESUME (2003)
The White House, USA
* ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
* I attacked and took over two countries.
* I spent the U.S. surplus and bankrupted the Treasury.
* I shattered the record for biggest annual deficit in history.
* I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period.
* I set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
* I am the first president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
* I am the first president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
* In my first year in office I set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
* After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, I presided over the worst security failure in US history.
* I set the record for most campaign fund raising trips by any president in US history.
* In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
* I cut unemployment benefits for more out-of-work Americans than any other president in US history.
* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period.
* I appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
* I set the record for the fewest press conferences of any president since the advent of TV.
* I signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any other president in US history.
* I presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
* I cut health care benefits for war veterans.
* I set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
* I dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
* I've made my presidency the most secretive and unaccountable of any in US history.
* Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (The 'poorest' multimillionaire, Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her).
* I am the first president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
* I presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud in any market in any country in the history of the world.
* I am the first president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation, and I did so against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
* I have created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
* I set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any other president in US history.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Human Rights Commission.
* I am the first president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the Elections Monitoring Board.
* I removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
* I rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
* I withdrew from the World Court of Law.
* I refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
* I am the first president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors access during the 2002 US elections.
* I am the all-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
* The biggest lifetime contributor to my campaign, who is also one of my best friends, presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
* I spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
* I am the first president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied, saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
* I am the first US president to establish a secret shadow government.
* I took the world's sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
* I am the first US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
* I am the first US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than by their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
* I changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
* I set the all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling their huge investments in corporations bidding for gov't contracts.
* I have removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history. In a little over two years I have created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided that the US has been since the civil war.
* I entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
* RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
* I have at least one conviction for drunk driving in Maine (Texas driving record has been erased and is not available).
* I was AWOL from the National Guard and deserted the military during a time of war.
* I refuse to take a drug test or even answer any questions about drug use.
* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas have been spirited away to my father¹s library, sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All records of any SEC investigations into my insider trading or bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* All minutes of meetings of any public corporation for which I served on the board are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view.
* Any records or minutes from meetings I (or my VP) attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review.
* PERSONAL REFERENCES:
* For personal references, please speak to my dad or uncle James Baker (They can be reached in their offices at the Carlyle Group where they are helping to divide up the spoils of the US-Iraq war and plan for the next one.)
optimusprime
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Anyone can cut and paste from an anti-Bush website. I wanted to see if you had a brain, Mr. Scarecrow.
No way is Bush the worst president.
Anyway, I don't want to vote for either Kerry or Bush. From what I've seen and heard, I just don't like Kerry that much or his stances on certain issues. I'm not gonna get specific, but I usually lean towards the Democratic party in regards to issues but I dunno, I don't really want to see either of them as president.
Maybe I'll just write my name in on that ballot...
Anyway, I don't want to vote for either Kerry or Bush. From what I've seen and heard, I just don't like Kerry that much or his stances on certain issues. I'm not gonna get specific, but I usually lean towards the Democratic party in regards to issues but I dunno, I don't really want to see either of them as president.
Maybe I'll just write my name in on that ballot...
Who's the idiot that compared Nam to 911? Instead of pointing out all the things wrong with this, I'll just do the most obvious one.
911 happened a few years ago, Nam 40 years ago. Do you see the difference? People are still actively grieving 911, it's not a piece of history just yet.
911 happened a few years ago, Nam 40 years ago. Do you see the difference? People are still actively grieving 911, it's not a piece of history just yet.
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[quote name='optimusprime']Anyone can cut and paste from an anti-Bush website. I wanted to see if you had a brain, Mr. Scarecrow.[/quote]
Referring to genuine information is out of the question? Would it have been better if he had put his own spin on it? What am I missing here? If a person supports their argument, that's all that matters. Does it matter how they choose to do it?
Referring to genuine information is out of the question? Would it have been better if he had put his own spin on it? What am I missing here? If a person supports their argument, that's all that matters. Does it matter how they choose to do it?
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Oh, and it came from Snopes which investigates urban legends and the sorts: http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/resume.asp
Their verdict? "A mixed bag of entries of varying degrees of truthfulness, many of them quite complex and/or subjective in nature. We haven't had the time to properly delve into the multiplicity of claims contained in it yet.
Their verdict? "A mixed bag of entries of varying degrees of truthfulness, many of them quite complex and/or subjective in nature. We haven't had the time to properly delve into the multiplicity of claims contained in it yet.
I also love how republicans like to call Clinton a bad president. Republicans tend to judge him based on his moral character, which is the WRONG way to judge a president. I think it's because of the times we live in, because Kennedy didn't face any of that scrutiny. People who don't give Clinton any credit for the prosperous economy are just really ignorant. Over 8 years we had the best economy we've ever had, and you're telling me that it was just a coincidence? Then Bush comes in and after 4 years, our country is in horrible shape. Another coincidence right?
No, Bush wasn't the worst president we've ever had, but he's definately in the bottom 5 or 10. I think the worst president we've ever had would probably be Hoover.
No, Bush wasn't the worst president we've ever had, but he's definately in the bottom 5 or 10. I think the worst president we've ever had would probably be Hoover.
er is killing young americans lives everyday in iraq for his political gain. remember what he said before the war it shouldnt take more than 6 months and were out.
E-Z-B are you drinking the clinton kool aid...you have so many loosely based idea's their it is crazy...gas prices were higher before/during 2000, at the time i was in maine and paying close to $2/gallon for regular..i pay less then that for premium now...you want to trust the un, then move to a country that supports them..the un recently said that they couldn't handle hati...if they can't handle hati, how the hell can they handle any other country..the recession started in clintons term, their has been documentation about how greenspan met with clinton, and clinton said not to touch it..and americains deserve to loose jobs, we produce shitty products that are overpriced...the deficit always goes up in a war..and we are fighting an international war on terror, but i guess you wouldn't want to pay for that...yeah ss is going to go down in 2024, but it was going down then when clinton was in office..so it should not be much of a surprise..how would you propose fixing it...ahh taxing us more..great idea
The UN is a useless body, much like the league of nations before ww2, we can't even get people in this country to decide how to do things, and you want to give our freedoms to the control of the un, what the hell are you thinking..they rendered them selves useless after warning iraq numerous times...you want to talk shit about enron, take a look at the donations they made to clinton and gore..they played both sides of the fence..don't be preaching shit about how bad the other side is, when your side of the fence is doing the same thing
The UN is a useless body, much like the league of nations before ww2, we can't even get people in this country to decide how to do things, and you want to give our freedoms to the control of the un, what the hell are you thinking..they rendered them selves useless after warning iraq numerous times...you want to talk shit about enron, take a look at the donations they made to clinton and gore..they played both sides of the fence..don't be preaching shit about how bad the other side is, when your side of the fence is doing the same thing
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Woah.....sorry this turned so ugly. I'm really getting ganged up on here (where are the rest of the sane people here?).
Anyhow, I'll answer a few points, and then let it rest.
1. ezb - As far as the cutting and pasting thing, I just hate it when people regurgitate other peoples arguments instead of constructing their own. Maybe there would be no difference, but it would seem like some thought went into it.
2. evilmax - Nobody compared 911 directly to Nam, so easy, tiger. My point was that using a tragedy to garner support is either bad or its not. Anything beyond that is splitting hairs. You think there aren't people today whose lives are affected (or haven't been ruined) by Vietnam? Again, I have no moral authority, because I didn't have a family member die in 911 (one college friend, though) and I wasn't in Nam. It just seems like criticizing Bush for this is more partisan politics.
3. ezb - If Snopes (good site, by the way...I use it a lot)
didn't verify your claims, then why point it out?
4. ezb - Why does Firebrand feel compelled to defend you?
Again....I'm not taking any of this too seriously....I was just looking for some friendly debate. I hope you take no offense.
Anyhow, I'll answer a few points, and then let it rest.
1. ezb - As far as the cutting and pasting thing, I just hate it when people regurgitate other peoples arguments instead of constructing their own. Maybe there would be no difference, but it would seem like some thought went into it.
2. evilmax - Nobody compared 911 directly to Nam, so easy, tiger. My point was that using a tragedy to garner support is either bad or its not. Anything beyond that is splitting hairs. You think there aren't people today whose lives are affected (or haven't been ruined) by Vietnam? Again, I have no moral authority, because I didn't have a family member die in 911 (one college friend, though) and I wasn't in Nam. It just seems like criticizing Bush for this is more partisan politics.
3. ezb - If Snopes (good site, by the way...I use it a lot)
didn't verify your claims, then why point it out?
4. ezb - Why does Firebrand feel compelled to defend you?
Again....I'm not taking any of this too seriously....I was just looking for some friendly debate. I hope you take no offense.
optimusprime
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[quote name='"E-Z-B"'][quote name='ryanbph']americains deserve to loose jobs, we produce shitty products that are overpriced...[/quote]
I think its more the fact that American workers get paid too much to produce said products. It makes it hard to stay competitive when your labor expense is 500% higher than your competition (who outsources jobs).
I think its more the fact that American workers get paid too much to produce said products. It makes it hard to stay competitive when your labor expense is 500% higher than your competition (who outsources jobs).
for economic policy set in place by a govt to take effect, it takes between 3-4 years, so clinton came into office as the economy was on its way up, bush's tax cuts from his first year should start effect this fall..also the president really doesn't do much..they are a figure head..they appoint judges, and during recess they get some extra powers, the presidency is a spot for a party to constantly be voicing their opinions, which we haven't had in a president since regan..bush is just as mediocre as clinton was, the democratic congress and republican congress are pathetic, and weak...blaming bush on the poor economics of the country, which to be honest with you really is doing very well right now..is like getting a job as a boss, and having the country go bankrupt 4 months later, is it your fault if you didn't even have a budget in place, for the companies failure, no it isn't...the wmd, the un, france, germany, president clinton, and every one in this world said he had them...how can you hold bush responsible for that, he had 12 years to hide them...
E-Z-B
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[quote name='"optimusprime"'][quote name='E-Z-B'][quote name='ryanbph']americains deserve to loose jobs, we produce shitty products that are overpriced...[/quote]
I think its more the fact that American workers get paid too much to produce said products. It makes it hard to stay competitive when your labor expense is 500% higher than your competition (who outsources jobs).[/quote]
How can you agree with that? This is the reason WHY 2.5 million jobs have disappeared since 2001. The republican party needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Outsourcing jobs will help corporate executives buy that second 7 series beemer, not help a family of four forced to work at wal-mart because their job was outsourced.
I think its more the fact that American workers get paid too much to produce said products. It makes it hard to stay competitive when your labor expense is 500% higher than your competition (who outsources jobs).[/quote]
How can you agree with that? This is the reason WHY 2.5 million jobs have disappeared since 2001. The republican party needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Outsourcing jobs will help corporate executives buy that second 7 series beemer, not help a family of four forced to work at wal-mart because their job was outsourced.
MaxBiaggi3
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A few things I don't like about Bush:
1) Tax cuts for the wealthy. Someone please explain to me why rich people need a tax cut. It's not like their kids won't eat dinner tonight or go to a good school without one. I don't want Social Security to go down the toilet tomorrow so a bunch of fat cats can get a tax break today.
2) Lies. WMDs, chemical/biological weapons, al Qaida ties, imminent threat to the U.S., etc. This load of BS created a culture of fear to justify finishing what Bush Sr. didn't do in Iraq, and countless innocent Iraqi civilians and American soldiers continue to die as a result.
3) $500+ billion dollar deficit. A basic rule of accounting is that you don't spend more than you earn, and yet Bush somehow managed to go from a budget surplus in 2000 to today's record-high deficit in barely three years' time, a debt we and our children will have to pay for years to come.
This administration has acted in a completely reckless and arrogant manner far beyond anything I simply disagree with. The Bush White House and its policies are inherently evil and must be stopped.
1) Tax cuts for the wealthy. Someone please explain to me why rich people need a tax cut. It's not like their kids won't eat dinner tonight or go to a good school without one. I don't want Social Security to go down the toilet tomorrow so a bunch of fat cats can get a tax break today.
2) Lies. WMDs, chemical/biological weapons, al Qaida ties, imminent threat to the U.S., etc. This load of BS created a culture of fear to justify finishing what Bush Sr. didn't do in Iraq, and countless innocent Iraqi civilians and American soldiers continue to die as a result.
3) $500+ billion dollar deficit. A basic rule of accounting is that you don't spend more than you earn, and yet Bush somehow managed to go from a budget surplus in 2000 to today's record-high deficit in barely three years' time, a debt we and our children will have to pay for years to come.
This administration has acted in a completely reckless and arrogant manner far beyond anything I simply disagree with. The Bush White House and its policies are inherently evil and must be stopped.
1.)Why should the rich pay over 38% of their income to the federal govt to subsidize programs that have failed for 30 plus years..I personally believe in a 15% flat tax..russia put it in in 2000, and they had their gov't grow and the economic conditions have improved greatly
2.) yeah i guess the al queda terrorist that have been pick up in iraq, show no link..everone, including the dems in 1998, and in the fall b4 the war said we should go..
3.) we had a deficit when bush took office, clinton and the republicain house balanced the budget, and were paying down our deficit, but we weren't in a surplus..that was projected surplus, and you can't predict things like 9/11 that will damage the economy, when people are scared, they don't spend..that isn't something you can predict..
2.) yeah i guess the al queda terrorist that have been pick up in iraq, show no link..everone, including the dems in 1998, and in the fall b4 the war said we should go..
3.) we had a deficit when bush took office, clinton and the republicain house balanced the budget, and were paying down our deficit, but we weren't in a surplus..that was projected surplus, and you can't predict things like 9/11 that will damage the economy, when people are scared, they don't spend..that isn't something you can predict..
Some more FACTS about GW Bush
Has not raised Minimum wage once (Clinton did this 3 times during his 8 years)
2. Taxation for the "rich" was at 70% when Reagan came into office. He slashed it to 35%. Clinton came into office and raised it to 39%. The FIRST thing, not second or third, that Bush did was to lower it back to 35%
3. He lied about his military service and created faux documents stating he did serve.
4. The National Debt clock in Times Square was turned back on after it had been off during the Clinton Administration. We are now losing MUCH more money than in the past.
5. Clinton became presiident through merit and hard work, not because his dad was a a U.S. Senator and Presidnet, which is also why he got into all those ivy leauge schools, Yale, etc.
6. Just hearing the guy talk, you know that he is an idiot
Has not raised Minimum wage once (Clinton did this 3 times during his 8 years)
2. Taxation for the "rich" was at 70% when Reagan came into office. He slashed it to 35%. Clinton came into office and raised it to 39%. The FIRST thing, not second or third, that Bush did was to lower it back to 35%
3. He lied about his military service and created faux documents stating he did serve.
4. The National Debt clock in Times Square was turned back on after it had been off during the Clinton Administration. We are now losing MUCH more money than in the past.
5. Clinton became presiident through merit and hard work, not because his dad was a a U.S. Senator and Presidnet, which is also why he got into all those ivy leauge schools, Yale, etc.
6. Just hearing the guy talk, you know that he is an idiot
BABETOOTH
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[quote name='optimusprime'][quote name='E-Z-B']That was disgusting using the images of the murder of 3,000 people to launch & promote a re-election campaign.[/quote]
And how do you feel about Kerry using his Vietnam service as an issue? How many Americans died there? 50,000?[/quote]
Here is the difference, Kerry fought in the Vietnam War and survived. Bush during 9-11 flew around the country like a coward until it was safe to land. If he would have been inside that inferno trying to save lives then it would`ve been okay I guess.
And how do you feel about Kerry using his Vietnam service as an issue? How many Americans died there? 50,000?[/quote]
Here is the difference, Kerry fought in the Vietnam War and survived. Bush during 9-11 flew around the country like a coward until it was safe to land. If he would have been inside that inferno trying to save lives then it would`ve been okay I guess.
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[quote name='Lstorm34']dont be suprised if bush is loosing in the election and out of nowhere he says we have caught osam bin laden. i have a feeling they have his ass but holding out till the time is right[/quote]
You know, I've been thinking that since they caught Saddam. Did you notice that today, two days after Super-Tuesday, now that Kerry is the clear nominee, the Bush administration announces that they've set up surveillance to watch the afghan mountains 24/7 now. Why didn't we do this a year ago? Because it's an election year, of course!
You know, I've been thinking that since they caught Saddam. Did you notice that today, two days after Super-Tuesday, now that Kerry is the clear nominee, the Bush administration announces that they've set up surveillance to watch the afghan mountains 24/7 now. Why didn't we do this a year ago? Because it's an election year, of course!
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[quote name='ryanbph']1.)Why should the rich pay over 38% of their income to the federal govt
2.) everone, including the dems in 1998, and in the fall b4 the war said we should go..
3.) you can't predict things like 9/11 that will damage the economy, when people are scared, they don't spend..that isn't something you can predict..[/quote]
1) To those who much is given, much is expected in return. It's in the bible, you selfish $#*%. Try reading it sometime.
2) Democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich didn't vote for war.
3) 33% of the current budget deficit is a result of the Bush tax cut for the wealthy. If 10% of the U.S. population earns 90% of the wealth, then 90% of Bush's tax cut went to just 10% of the population. Don't even try to convince me that Cheney "earned" his $36 million per year as head of Halliburton a few years ago. That's just a load of garbage.
2.) everone, including the dems in 1998, and in the fall b4 the war said we should go..
3.) you can't predict things like 9/11 that will damage the economy, when people are scared, they don't spend..that isn't something you can predict..[/quote]
1) To those who much is given, much is expected in return. It's in the bible, you selfish $#*%. Try reading it sometime.
2) Democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich didn't vote for war.
3) 33% of the current budget deficit is a result of the Bush tax cut for the wealthy. If 10% of the U.S. population earns 90% of the wealth, then 90% of Bush's tax cut went to just 10% of the population. Don't even try to convince me that Cheney "earned" his $36 million per year as head of Halliburton a few years ago. That's just a load of garbage.
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Why can't people see the bright side of the elections, there is no Hillary Clinton anywhere near the ballot right now.
Also note during GW's presidency, the price of video games and systems have fallen. Coincidence?
Also note during GW's presidency, the price of video games and systems have fallen. Coincidence?
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[quote name='Doylerulez']Why can't people see the bright side of the elections, there is no Hillary Clinton anywhere near the ballot right now.
Also note during GW's presidency, the price of video games and systems have fallen. Coincidence?[/quote]
That's because people don't have jobs and can't pay $70 anymore.
Also note during GW's presidency, the price of video games and systems have fallen. Coincidence?[/quote]
That's because people don't have jobs and can't pay $70 anymore.
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