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fatherofcaitlyn

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Howdy, folks.

I'm a small independent retailer with a small problem.

I can't find steady suppliers.

Some weeks, I buy and sell dozens of games. Other weeks, I buy and sell a handful.

To increase my sales, I need to increase my purchases.

So, I'm looking to purchases games from CAG members.

Here are the rules:

1. Send me a list of games you are looking to unload. Give me a short description of each item (ie disc only, complete, mint, heavily damaged, etc). You can contact me through private message on this website. I'm a little too new to be posting my email address.

2. I'll attempt to respond within a few days with a price for each game.

3. After we settle on a price, I pay you half before you ship and half after I receive the games as described. Payment is through Paypal. I'll probably be using a credit card, but I do keep some money in the account. You might be able to squeak by with an unregistered Paypal account, but only a fully registered account will work all of the time.

Here's a FAQ that might be helpful:

Q: What games are you looking to buy?

A: Anything from Nintendo to current generation. However, NTSC (US, Canada) format is preferred.

Q: How much are you willing to give per game?

A: I'll tell you after I look over the list of games you submit. Suffice to say, I can probably beat any major retailer's trade-in price on most games.

Q: How should I mail my games to you?

A: Any way you like, but here's a suggestion: use a flat rate priority mail box with delivery confirmation. For $8.15, you can cram about 18-21 PS2 or Xbox games into one box and the delivery confirmation keeps both parties (you and me) honest. Also, you won't get your other half of funds until I receive the shipment. Priority mail averages 2 days in the US. Also, a shipping manifest inside the box will be helpful.

Q: Who pays for shipping?

A: That's the beauty of negotiation. If you're selling me one game, I probably won't pay $2-3 to get it here. If you're selling me several dozens games, $24-25 in postage won't break me.

Q: I don't use Paypal. Can you pay me some other way?

A: I prefer Paypal. Let's keep it simple for now. Money orders, checks and cash tend to get lost in the mail.

If you have more questions, I'll try to keep up and answer them.
 
Any references on your part so we might have an inkling you're not trying to rip people off? Also, why buy games from people on here? If you're a retailer you should be able to get games cheap from suppliers.
 
What type of games do you sell? Maybe $5 CC or GC games? Maybe $1.99 CC games? 90% TRU games? Just curious ...
 
[quote name='DreamSymphony']Any references on your part so we might have an inkling you're not trying to rip people off? Also, why buy games from people on here? If you're a retailer you should be able to get games cheap from suppliers.[/QUOTE]

1. I'm verified through Paypal with a rating of 567. Considering a deal will take several emails, there's a huge paper trail. Paypal and CAG have my personal information. I'd be pretty easy to track down, sue in civil court or slap a criminal complaint against.

2. I'm paying people half up front on the first transaction. There's a greater chance for me to be ripped off. On future transactions with the same person, I'll pay everything up front.

3. People are constantly bragging about their fabulous trade-ins to retailers. I think I can match or beat them.

4. I'm a small time retailer. I constantly exhaust the suppliers I have. Finding more suppliers takes a lot of effort. The path of least resistance could be private individuals like CAGers.

5. Regarding your other post ... If the moderator thinks this post is in the wrong area, I won't cry if it's moved to the right area.
 
[quote name='bradr']What type of games do you sell? Maybe $5 CC or GC games? Maybe $1.99 CC games? 90% TRU games? Just curious ...[/QUOTE]

I sell whatever I can (hopefully) make a profit with.

Here's what I've sold this year so far.

2 slim PS2s​

3 Max Payne 2s​

Red Dead Revolver * 25​

6 Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven​

3 Medal of Honor: Frontline​

35 GTA: SAs​

5 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3​

15 GTA: SAs​

2 slim PS2s​

1 Sapphire Video Card​

Broken PS2 * 2​

Gamestop Resident Evil 4​

Burnout 3: Takedown * 17​

Madden 2005 * 24​

Leisure Suit Larry * 23​

Star Wars: Battlefront * 20​

Def Jam: Fight For New York * 21​

Jak 3 * 5​

Prince of Persia: Warrior With * 5​

Mortal Kombat: Deception * 22​

Conflict: Vietnam​

Fable​

Pikmin 2 * 10​

Eternal Darkness * 3​

2 * Tiger Woods 2005​

Broken PS2s * 24​

KOTOR 2 * 9​

Maximo​

Battlestar Gallactica * 3​

Nascar Thunder 2004​

Nascar Thunder 2005 *2​

Gauntlet: Dark Legacy​

Halo 2 * 100​

Killzone * 10​

Guilty Gear X2 * 12​

Resident Evil​

Prince of Persia: Sands of Time​

Splashdown: Rides Gone Wild​

Halo: Combat Evolved * 2​

Burnout 2: Point of Impact​

Star Wars: Jedi Academy​

Ninja Gaiden * 7​

Need for Speed Underground 2 * 5​

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas * 21​

Pikmin​

Nintendo DS​

Half-Life * 2​

Mafia​

Final Fantasy IX​

Suikoden IV * 26​

Spider-man 2 * 8​

Mercenaries: Playground of Des * 104​

Star Trek: Shattered Universe * 4​

Call of Duty: Finest Hour​

Manhunt * 5​

Syphon Filter: Omega Strain * 4​

Wario World​

Transformers * 4​

Sonic Heroes * 2​

Intellivision Lives * 2​

Resident Evil: Outbreak * 15​

Driv3r * 11​

Champions of Norrath​

Armored Core: Silent Line * 2​

Dark Cloud 2 * 6​

Hitman: Contracts * 10​

Twisted Metal: Black​

Dark Cloud​

Broken PS2 * 2​

Ephemeral Fantasia​

Final Fantasy X-2 * 2​

Silent Hill 3​

Onimusha 3: Demon Siege​

Robotech: Battlecry​

Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams​

Lara Croft Tomb Raider: AOD​

Paper Mario: the 1000 yo door *5​

Dead or Alive Ultimate * 4​

Yugioh: Capsule Monster Coli * 7​

WWE: Smackdown vs. RAW * 3​

Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorr * 3​

Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles * 5​

Midway Arcade Treasures * 2​

NCAA Football 2005 * 6​

Saturday Night Speedway * 3​

Spongebob Squarepants movie​

Psi-Ops: Mindgate​

Ring of Red​

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes​

Godzilla: Save the Earth * 3​

Mario Party 4​

Medabots: Infinity * 3​

Resident Evil Zero​

Soul Calibur 2 * 2​

MLB 2005​

Star Wars: Obi-Wan​

Need for Speed Underground * 2​

Zone of the Enders​

Mobile Suit Gundam: Journey to​

Mister Mosquito * 2​

Resident Evil 3: Nemesis​

Hot Shots Golf FORE!​

Tony Hawk's Underground 2​

Vagrant Story​

War of the Monsters​

Sony PS2 & 20 games​

2 broken PS2s and 1 broken Xbox​

SOCOM 2​

Mario Party 6​

Tenchu: Return From Darkness * 2​

Pokemon Colloseum * 7​

Harry Potter & the Chamber of Secrets​

True Crime: Streets of LA​

Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter​

Tak 2: Staff of Dreams * 8​

Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 3 * 11​

Fisherman's Bass Club​

25 broken PS2s​

Sony PSPs * 2​

1 returned PSP​

saw and the grudge​

Star Fox: Assault * 12​

NBA Street V3 * 29​

Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath * 15​

Gran Turismo 4 * 41​

Playboy: The Mansion * 67​

The Punisher * 5​

Project: Snowblind * 7​

Resident Evil 4 * 7​

Fight Club * 1​

25 Broken PS2s​

Mario Party 5 * 2​

25 broken PS2s​

Tekken 5 * 2​

Judge Dredd: Dredd Vs. Death​

Van Helsing​

Metroid Prime​

Wholesale lot - 45 games​

4 Returned games​

Dragonball Z: Sagas * 18​

Brother in Arms: Road to Hill 30 * 2​

MVP Baseball 2005 * 19​

Siren​

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater * 6​

Secret Weapons Over Normandy​

Resident Evil: Dead Aim​

Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel * 2​

Monster Hunter​

2 broken PS2s​

Lupin the Third: Treasure of the Sorc​

20 broken PS2s​

25 games bulk lot​

Shadow of Rome​

Star Wars: Rogue Squadron​

 
Go away hoarder!!! This site is Cheap Ass Gamer Not Cheap Ass Hoarder!! This site is for gamers not to make a cheap buck off of ebay. Keep Hoarding in your corner of the world and stay out of my corner, so I can walk into a store and buy a CAG that I want to play Not a CAG to saleon evay to make a buck so I don't have to get a real job.

Grrr every time you hoard a game takes that game out of a CAGs hand.

I know this site has a shit load of closet hoarders and if I could I would smack every single one. Go away and never show your face again.
 
Still a parent. How about you?

[quote name='mtxbass1']Funny how in your other thread you boasted about how your supplies were so great and you made so much money on eBay. I also remember you distinctly saying how great it was to buy games at wholesale and to resell them on eBay.
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Do you remember me saying this as well?

"I run my business out of my house (tax incentive), constantly run out of inventory throughout the year and sell hundreds of video games per month for a fraction of retail prices and a tidy profit."

In the current month, I've sold 204 items on eBay.

So, you're right. It is great to buy games at wholesale and to resell them on eBay.

Now, let's turn our attention to the matter at hand.

Some CAGers like to trade in their games to various game stores. They think they're getting great deals on their tradeins. I suggest that they can get more money for their games through me.

Instead of driving to the store and taking whatever is offered. They can negotiate with me through email and get a better bargain. There's still a drive involved: to the post office.
 
[quote name='spoo']Go away hoarder!!! This site is Cheap Ass Gamer Not Cheap Ass Hoarder!! This site is for gamers not to make a cheap buck off of ebay. Keep Hoarding in your corner of the world and stay out of my corner, so I can walk into a store and buy a CAG that I want to play Not a CAG to saleon evay to make a buck so I don't have to get a real job.

Grrr every time you hoard a game takes that game out of a CAGs hand.

I know this site has a shit load of closet hoarders and if I could I would smack every single one. Go away and never show your face again.[/QUOTE]

If you have enough authority to define how this website is to be used, you should ban me.

When I go to my suppliers, they're happy to see me. Without me, their product would rot on their shelves. Apparently, CAGers haven't heard of my suppliers. Of course, CAGers like you are waiting for the last day of the sale before making purchases, right?

I bet you would be fun to take into retail stores. You probably flip out and accuse them of being hoarders as well. If you don't accuse retail stores of being hoarders, why not?

As far as a real job, buying, listing, testing, mailing and providing customer service for hundreds of games per month seems to be a real job to me.

As far as taking deals out of CAGers' hands, I usually sell for less than retail. For example, I'm selling used Gran Turismo 4 for $34 after shipping. Gamestop is selling it used for $45 before shipping. Even with those great CAG coupons won't make it cheaper than me.

Let's talk tradeins. I could probably give $22 or so cash for it. How much is Gamestop giving right now? I'm betting $20 store credit or less.

Regarding the threat of physical violence, PM me if you live in the Louisville area. I'd be more than happy to trade contact information with you. Additionally, you could make specific threats of violence against me and my family. Afterwards, you could have the pleasure of answering the terrorist threatening complaint I file against you. If you showed up at my house, I'd even let you throw the first punch.

As far as the rest of you in the CAG, PM if you have a list of games you're looking to unload. If you don't like the prices I'm offering, you can always get less for them from your local retail store.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Still a parent. How about you?[/QUOTE]

Are you talking to me?


[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']
Do you remember me saying this as well?

"I run my business out of my house (tax incentive), constantly run out of inventory throughout the year and sell hundreds of video games per month for a fraction of retail prices and a tidy profit."

In the current month, I've sold 204 items on eBay.

So, you're right. It is great to buy games at wholesale and to resell them on eBay.

Now, let's turn our attention to the matter at hand.

Some CAGers like to trade in their games to various game stores. They think they're getting great deals on their tradeins. I suggest that they can get more money for their games through me.

Instead of driving to the store and taking whatever is offered. They can negotiate with me through email and get a better bargain. There's still a drive involved: to the post office.[/QUOTE]

Of course I remember you saying all that. I brought up your old post didn't I?

I would hardly consider buying games from others as "wholesale", and that's certainly what you are implying here. I think you belong over at fatwallet where people think it's perfectly okay to buy 30 of one product then resell it for some minute amount. I know for a fact that after your eBay fees and paypal fees that you aren't making very much money.

Lets break this down even further if you will: Here's a little mathematical breakdown for you. (these are all generous estimates)

204 games sold averaging say 10.00 profit each. = 2040
eBay listing fees = say an average of 55 cents per item = 112.50
eBay final value fees = say another average of 1.25 per item = 250
cost of the 204 games, say you purchased them for 5 bucks each = 1020
paypal fees = say an average of 1.30 an item here = 265.2

so your final "profit" is = $392.30

Wow man...seriously. 20 days work and you made $392.30. And lets just be generous and say that you only put in 40 hours of work for this small profit. WOW. You are making a whole $9.81 an hour. Way to go man, you are really making a killing. Even if you double my above numbers you are not doing what anyone would consider "well". I mean, maybe it's just me, but my time is worth a little more than 10 bucks an hour.

Now before you bash me and tell me that my numbers are all off, I am lowballing all of these figures. I've been selling on eBay myself since 2000 and I know how the system works. If you sell 1000.00 of items ebay is roughly going to get you for around 100.00 in fees. I didn't even mention the number of items that you listed that DIDN'T sell and the fees that you lost there. Not to even mention the number of buyers that buy and don't pay, and all the assholes that you have to deal with. I hope you are happy with the time and effort you put into your eBay selling just to make such a small amount of money. If you came to this site looking for "cheap ass games" and you complain in your other thread about the prices at retail stores, then something else tells me that you certainly are paying more than $5.00 a game. Even if you are selling new release titles you STILL aren't making that much. You may buy a new release for 35, sell it for 42, but after fees you are still making a whopping 5 bucks, if that.

This site is not about hoarding games. You also seem to think that most of our members feel they are getting a great deal when they trade games in to retail stores. Have you even read the numerous threads on trade in values around here? Most of our users look out for themselves and are not stupid enough to trade in brand new games for next to nothing. The FYE and Gamerush threads are proof of that. Our users are not as stupid as you assume.

Even if users did decide to sell them to you, you aren't going to offer them much more than they can get somewhere else, and if you do then I feel sorry for your "business" when you look at the bottom line a few weeks from now and realize that you aren't doing as hot as you think you are.

To sum this all up, go away hoarder. There are plenty of sites out there that cater to people like you. I would suggest going to Fatwallet if you want to boast about hoarding your games and reselling them on eBay. Your kind is not welcome around these boards.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']If you have enough authority to define how this website is to be used, you should ban me.

When I go to my suppliers, they're happy to see me. Without me, their product would rot on their shelves. Apparently, CAGers haven't heard of my suppliers. Of course, CAGers like you are waiting for the last day of the sale before making purchases, right?

I bet you would be fun to take into retail stores. You probably flip out and accuse them of being hoarders as well. If you don't accuse retail stores of being hoarders, why not?

As far as a real job, buying, listing, testing, mailing and providing customer service for hundreds of games per month seems to be a real job to me.

As far as taking deals out of CAGers' hands, I usually sell for less than retail. For example, I'm selling used Gran Turismo 4 for $34 after shipping. Gamestop is selling it used for $45 before shipping. Even with those great CAG coupons won't make it cheaper than me.

Let's talk tradeins. I could probably give $22 or so cash for it. How much is Gamestop giving right now? I'm betting $20 store credit or less.

Regarding the threat of physical violence, PM me if you live in the Louisville area. I'd be more than happy to trade contact information with you. Additionally, you could make specific threats of violence against me and my family. Afterwards, you could have the pleasure of answering the terrorist threatening complaint I file against you. If you showed up at my house, I'd even let you throw the first punch.

As far as the rest of you in the CAG, PM if you have a list of games you're looking to unload. If you don't like the prices I'm offering, you can always get less for them from your local retail store.[/QUOTE]

yeah but the only time CAGs usually trade in games is when there are incentives.. are you giving 10 dollars bonus for every game we 'trade in' to you on a future purchase (like the 10 for preorder PSP games) and when we get the PSP game for full retail value will you take it back to refund our money for "full retail value"?... I don't think so.. EB and GS are better places to trade because they won't do this "half now half later" approach. and they also have better deals then you could ever afford. sorry.. but you suck.
 
If you and nwaugh aren't the same person, my mistake.

2915 is roughly my profit for the year after my mileage and other legitimate business expenses have removed a few thousand dollars in profit. Of course, mileage is pretty funny. You can claim 37.5 cents per mile, but only spend 10 cents per mile on gas.

Anyways, the profit does suck for a full time job. As far as a side business, it's pretty good. I'm trying to increase my business into a full time job. Plain and simple.

Now, I'm not going to bash you. Your numbers aren't too far off, but I've taken steps to mitigate eBay and Paypal fees. I sell at fixed prices in multiple items lots. So, an item with a typical listing fee of $1.20 can be reduced to 30 or 40 cents if you have enough of them. Paypal fees drop if you pass enough money through the system. I haven't quite figured out how to reduce the eBay final value fees. I suppose there isn't a way around that 5.25%.

Regarding tradeins, I haven't read every post. If the vast majority of CAGers don't like what retail stores give them for tradeins, good for them. For those CAGers that trade their games in regularly, I believe I can offer them more.

Regarding hoarding, I'm honestly having a disconnect. I don't see how buying 100 games and selling 99 of them in a week or so is hoarding. Is the simple act of buying 100 games hoarding regardless of future actions? If so, I got you. Am I insulted? Not in the slightest bit. Just curious ... retail stores buy hundreds and thousands of games. Do you accuse them of hoarding as well?

Also, is it hoarding when nobody buy the item? I watched an used copy of Resident Evil 4 sit on a shelf for 6 weeks at one of my suppliers. It could have been bought for $28 at any time. They were happy to sell it to me for $21.20.

I'm a pretty nice guy. If you and I hit the same place at the same time, I'd let you grab whatever you wanted first. If you hit the place as I was leaving, I'd sell you anything I bought AT COST if you asked me for it.

You keep mentioning the fatwallet website. I've never heard of it, but I'll look into it. If they've got useful information, you have my thanks.
 
I dunno if I call this hoarding... to me, hoarding would would be replying 1 minute after Shrike puts up his trade thread and saying "I'll take all of it." Or buying every copy of a certain game that comes up in the trade forum because it's 'rare and valuable'. Asking us to sell all our games to him doesn't seem like hoarding to me. It seems like...

:spam: !

Cheapy D made this place for us to talk games and let each other know when sales are going down, and let us help each other find games we want (your GC has My Want? My GC has your want- wanna trade? or something similar.)

This is not a place for people to start up their own business and have their own private customer base already gathered for them... nor are we sitting here with mountains of games, waiting for some self-employed game dealer to come along so we can be a private supply base.

Umm, how about starting a website of your own? You could list games you'll pay top dollar for on it, and have the link in your sig, for us to discover on our own (if we care to.) Or put an ad in your paper looking for games to buy- it would cut down on shipping, and you could inspect the titles in person before buying.

But posting here... I dunno.... it seems so... dishonest, and cheap. (the bad kind of cheap.)
 
[quote name='urzishra14']yeah but the only time CAGs usually trade in games is when there are incentives.. are you giving 10 dollars bonus for every game we 'trade in' to you on a future purchase (like the 10 for preorder PSP games) and when we get the PSP game for full retail value will you take it back to refund our money for "full retail value"?... I don't think so.. EB and GS are better places to trade because they won't do this "half now half later" approach. and they also have better deals then you could ever afford. sorry.. but you suck.[/QUOTE]

You trade in 4 preowned games and effectively get a PSP game for free? Then, you return the sealed game(s) unopened and get $10 profit per trade-in game? If the $10 is cash, that's a good racket (if you didn't spend more than $10 on each game). I'll have to remember that one.

Do they offer this deal every day? If so, I'm thinking about a reloading trip to BB.

The "half now, half later" approach would be for the first transaction. It would be pretty stupid of me to pay everything up front when the potential seller could conveniently forgot to ship my purchase.

Are you sure you can't get a better deal from me? I haven't seen a list of games you're trying to trade in. That game you're willing to part with for $10 might get you $15 from me. I suppose we'll never know.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']If you and nwaugh aren't the same person, my mistake.

2915 is roughly my profit for the year after my mileage and other legitimate business expenses have removed a few thousand dollars in profit. Of course, mileage is pretty funny. You can claim 37.5 cents per mile, but only spend 10 cents per mile on gas.

Anyways, the profit does suck for a full time job. As far as a side business, it's pretty good. I'm trying to increase my business into a full time job. Plain and simple.

Now, I'm not going to bash you. Your numbers aren't too far off, but I've taken steps to mitigate eBay and Paypal fees. I sell at fixed prices in multiple items lots. So, an item with a typical listing fee of $1.20 can be reduced to 30 or 40 cents if you have enough of them. Paypal fees drop if you pass enough money through the system. I haven't quite figured out how to reduce the eBay final value fees. I suppose there isn't a way around that 5.25%.

Regarding tradeins, I haven't read every post. If the vast majority of CAGers don't like what retail stores give them for tradeins, good for them. For those CAGers that trade their games in regularly, I believe I can offer them more.

Regarding hoarding, I'm honestly having a disconnect. I don't see how buying 100 games and selling 99 of them in a week or so is hoarding. Is the simple act of buying 100 games hoarding regardless of future actions? If so, I got you. Am I insulted? Not in the slightest bit. Just curious ... retail stores buy hundreds and thousands of games. Do you accuse them of hoarding as well?

Also, is it hoarding when nobody buy the item? I watched an used copy of Resident Evil 4 sit on a shelf for 6 weeks at one of my suppliers. It could have been bought for $28 at any time. They were happy to sell it to me for $21.20.

I'm a pretty nice guy. If you and I hit the same place at the same time, I'd let you grab whatever you wanted first. If you hit the place as I was leaving, I'd sell you anything I bought AT COST if you asked me for it.

You keep mentioning the fatwallet website. I've never heard of it, but I'll look into it. If they've got useful information, you have my thanks.[/QUOTE]

While I applaud you for trying to produce a sucessful business, you are going about it completely the wrong way. You cannot honestly call 2915 very profitable considering the amount of work you put into everything. I would commend you if that was for say 100 hours of work, but honestly, for an entire year? That's pretty horrible.

Look man, I have nothing wrong with you reselling on eBay, I'm just pointing out that you aren't doing as well as you think you may be, nor will you ever unless you devote all your time to it, start a website, and really find the "good" deals. One thing I hate to break to you is that you will never make a ton of money reselling games like you are trying to do. Believe me, people have and will continue to try and do so, but they are almost always ousted by other commericial entities.

People on this site take great offense to someone who sees a deal, goes and buys every single copy of the game, then resells it. It's plain and simple. My definition of hoarding is buying every single game (or a mass quantity of games) that is on sale, only to then resell them later. You are preventing others from getting in on a deal.

I think you need to realize one thing. You are not a huge business. You are doing this as a side job and really aren't doing it that well. Do I think large businesses hoard games? Certainly not. The entire purpose of a retail store is to provide a product and service to a consumer. A store is not preventing anyone from getting in on a great deal because they provide the deal themselves. Resellers like yourself will soak up a good deal and possibly prevent others from getting in on the said deal. Believe me, I've been around long enough and I know how things work. The second that word gets out, resellers swoop in and it's all over. A store in no way, shape, or form can be considered "hoarding" when they are the primary marketplace for providing a product. You, nor your business are not an instance of this. You provide a few games to a few people but in no way provide a full retail service at stores offer.

Like I said earlier, I have no problem with you personally and mean no ill will. However, when you come on these boards and brag about how you think you are doing so well, only to state later that you are running out of supplies, prepare for people (myself included) to jump in on you. This is a site about finding the best deals on games. This includes trading games and general game discussion. The goal here is not to purchase every single game in site only to resell them later for a profit. Plain and simple.
 
[quote name='DuelLadyS']I dunno if I call this hoarding... to me, hoarding would would be replying 1 minute after Shrike puts up his trade thread and saying "I'll take all of it." Or buying every copy of a certain game that comes up in the trade forum because it's 'rare and valuable'. [/QUOTE]

I pretty sure I haven't done either of these acts. I think I'm a little too new here.

I don't grab food out of people's mouths. I give the general public days, weeks or even months (maybe even years) to buy what they want.

Even after I swoop down on a place, I only grab what will fetch a quick profit.

Unfortunately (for CAGers), I watch great buys sit on shelves for months.

Of the games I buy, I tend to sell them on eBay for $3-8 less than the average selling price. By doing so, I exert downward pressure on prices.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']While I applaud you for trying to produce a sucessful business, you are going about it completely the wrong way. You cannot honestly call 2915 very profitable considering the amount of work you put into everything. I would commend you if that was for say 100 hours of work, but honestly, for an entire year? That's pretty horrible.
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It's May. I still have seven months of the year left. Additionally, I don't put anywhere near 40 hours. It's probably 10-15 hours a week averaged out. There have been weeks of 60-80 hours, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Also, 2915 is profit after business expenses. I can claim some of my normal living expenses such as a mortgage, ISP, etc. as legitimate expenses.

[quote name='mtxbass1']You are preventing others from getting in on a deal.[/QUOTE]

No, I'm not. By the time I walk into a place, the items I buy have been available to the general public for days, weeks, months and even years. Everything I have bought could have been bought for roughly the same price. The general public ignored it.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']I think I'm a little too new here.[/QUOTE]

1.) I appreciate your ability to keep your posts civil despite the animosity you've encountered here.

2.) The vocal minority notwithstanding, your thread has still been seen and if anyone here is interested in taking you up on your offer, then they'll be in contact with you...so your thread was not in vain.

3.) I don't like game hoarders or ticket scalpers more than anyone else, but I express this dislike by doing my best not to (directly) support their efforts. I regret that "the average consumer" doesn't know or care enough to try to do the same, and thus hoarders & scalpers continue to fluorish. However, the offer you've made here has nothing to do with hoarding (obviously this doesn't include your other, non-CAG "suppliers," which I know nothing about,) and so I'm fine with it. It's one thing to walk into a retail store, fill several shopping carts with merchandise on sale, and then re-sell them to the public without having provided any service other than inserting yourself as a meaningless middle-man....and a different thing altogether to offer to buy games which we the users want to get rid of (presumably after failing to find suitable trade/buyers for these titles on our own & not wanting to keep them.)

4.) I don't have a Paypal account, so your offer to buy titles doesn't effect me. If you mediate trades, that would certainly be great!
 
Check the sale/trade list in my signature. It's not huge, but there are prices and descriptions up for every item I still have.

Also, seeing as many posts in the trading forum regard buying and selling, this should probably get moved there. It's not that it doesn't belong here, but I think you'd get more business over there. Good luck!
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']It's May. I still have seven months of the year left. Additionally, I don't put anywhere near 40 hours. It's probably 10-15 hours a week averaged out. There have been weeks of 60-80 hours, but they're the exception rather than the rule. Also, 2915 is profit after business expenses. I can claim some of my normal living expenses such as a mortgage, ISP, etc. as legitimate expenses.



No, I'm not. By the time I walk into a place, the items I buy have been available to the general public for days, weeks, months and even years. Everything I have bought could have been bought for roughly the same price. The general public ignored it.[/QUOTE]

Exactly my point though. It's May and you have made 2915.00. Even if you put in an average of 15 hours a week (which is a lowball estimate) you still aren't even making $10.00 an hour. If you had 2 weeks where you spent 60 hours a week, that's 120 hours total. Add that to a low assumption of 15 hours a week for the remaining weeks and you have a total of (270)+(120) = 390 hours. That roughly equals out to $7.50 an hour, if that. Not worth it IMO.

Odds are if by the time you walk into the place, something has been sitting there for "months or years", it's likely a crap game that no one wants in the first place. You may luck up and find a gem here or there, but you can't say you are doing anyone a service by buying a game and reselling it that has been sitting on a stores shelves for months. Odds are if it didn't sell at the store, it's not going to sell for a decent price on eBay. The "general public" is not out to find the best deal. This site represents a minority of gameres who in fact are though. We as a group seek the best deals and spread this among members. This site is not meant to be a service to provide you (or anyone else) a low price on games so they can be resold in the future.
 
[quote name='RBM']1.) I appreciate your ability to keep your posts civil despite the animosity you've encountered here.

2.) The vocal minority notwithstanding, your thread has still been seen and if anyone here is interested in taking you up on your offer, then they'll be in contact with you...so your thread was not in vain.

3.) I don't like game hoarders or ticket scalpers more than anyone else, but I express this dislike by doing my best not to (directly) support their efforts. I regret that "the average consumer" doesn't know or care enough to try to do the same, and thus hoarders & scalpers continue to fluorish. However, the offer you've made here has nothing to do with hoarding (obviously this doesn't include your other, non-CAG "suppliers," which I know nothing about,) and so I'm fine with it. It's one thing to walk into a retail store, fill several shopping carts with merchandise on sale, and then re-sell them to the public without having provided any service other than inserting yourself as a meaningless middle-man....and a different thing altogether to offer to buy games which we the users want to get rid of (presumably after failing to find suitable trade/buyers for these titles on our own & not wanting to keep them.)

4.) I don't have a Paypal account, so your offer to buy titles doesn't effect me. If you mediate trades, that would certainly be great![/QUOTE]

My god, somebody is being polite. Thank you.

Even if you don't have a Paypal account, you can negotiate how we will trade. I'm not opposed to buying with a money order, but I'd have to send it certified mail with a return receipt requested. It costs about $5 more than a Paypal transaction. So, putting forth that much expense for a single game is silly. For several hundred games, I might notice. Paypal is just incredibly easy and safe for both buyer and seller.

BTW, I started reading over the "Fatwallet" FAQ. Here's an interesting bit:

"Flaming, Discouraging others
FatWallet forums exist for the benefit of interested consumers. We expect comments to be positive and constructive to the topic being discussed, and to help others make informed decisions. Please refrain from flaming, name-calling or otherwise discouraging our members. If you see something offensive, please alert moderators from the offending post rather than commenting yourself.

Personal Attacks
Please help us foster a smart, fun community by focusing your comments at products, deals and retailers rather than individual forum members or groups. If you find another member is offensive or unreliable, please alert moderators from one of the offender’s posts. Thank you!"
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Even if you don't have a Paypal account, you can negotiate how we will trade. I'm not opposed to buying with a money order, but I'd have to send it certified mail with a return receipt requested. It costs about $5 more than a Paypal transaction.[/QUOTE]

...oh, no. I meant trade as in trading one game for another. It sounds like you only buy/sell, however. Guess I'm out of luck. Unlike some of the others here, my game collection doesn't run into the hundreds (much less thousands) of titles, and thus I only ever have a handful of titles to swap. Small fry, as it were.
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I've found this thread pretty amusing.

fatherofcatlyn: More power to you if you can find a way to go into business for yourself. Sure beats working for someone.

All of this thread dumping sounds like the same crap that goes on at the digitalpress board, people complaining on how eBay sellers are ruining their turf (local flea markets and yard sales where people are either charging too much for games or where people are snagging up all the deals and reselling them on eBay for megabucks). But what is nice about these message boards is that it's a good venue for intelligent discussion.

mtx makes some valid points. Personally, I wouldn't want to sell things in a forum such as eBay where they have a complete monopoly on online auction pricing. What is to stop them from slowly driving up fees on their end and Paypal's end to the point where they keep eating away at your profits like a cancer? Seems to me that its more than once a year that fees are raised for whatever reason. And the reason they do it, is because they can and will.

Selling on eBay is akin to swimming with sharks. True you get much more selling exposure than you would having a website, but there are many other thousands of sellers who are doing the same thing. Sellers on eBay are pretty devious. How many times have you paid more than $6 to have a game shipped to you only to find it was sent media mail and the remainder of the shipping was a "handling fee" of throwing it into a box without any care of the condition it would arrive in?

If I were to go into some sort of online video game business, I would try and set up my own website and sell through word of mouth and advertising rather than have to cling onto eBay and let them manhandle my wallet. It would be a considerable amount of work to get running, but in the long run 2+ years, you would be much better off than being in the rat race. Think about how much money you would save on eBay and Paypal fees if you didn't have to deal with them.
 
ATTN: hoarder, this IS NOT FATWALLET we do not go by the same rules they do. If you find thier rules better then ours, please exit this forum immediately and do not come back. We won't miss you. I promise. :)

Thanks!
 
[quote name='spoo']
Grrr every time you hoard a game takes that game out of a CAGs hand.

I know this site has a shit load of closet hoarders and if I could I would smack every single one. Go away and never show your face again.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']
Regarding the threat of physical violence, PM me if you live in the Louisville area. I'd be more than happy to trade contact information with you. Additionally, you could make specific threats of violence against me and my family. Afterwards, you could have the pleasure of answering the terrorist threatening complaint I file against you. If you showed up at my house, I'd even let you throw the first punch.
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First off the you are going overboard with my threat (Wanting to slap you is not the same as threating your family and being a terrorist :roll: ). Second off I said If I could I would smack every hoarder on this site. Are you admiting to being a hoarder then? *ding*ding*ding*

[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']
I bet you would be fun to take into retail stores. You probably flip out and accuse them of being hoarders as well. If you don't accuse retail stores of being hoarders, why not?[/QUOTE]


What don't you understand about retail stores getting their supplys wholesale from legit supliers? Not from the CC, TRU... sale. I hate that if I lived in your neck of the woods and you got to the latest sale and bought the store out just to sell on ebay. I walk in wanting to buy one game "to play" but the store has been cleaned out by you or some one buying games for you. Why would I call a retail store a hoarder? Damn do you say this stuff so you can sleep better at night?

I have nothing wrong with Follandboy who has a small retail store in his home town asking to buy certain games and I have sold him a game before but asking CAGs to raid sales for you seems low.

I say goodluck to you if I am wrong and you are an honest nonhoarding CAG. Otherwise...
 
Would you guys stop crapping on this thread? You don't have to like what he is doing, but he's clearly not out to destroy CAG. He wants to make a buck and you can't blame him. And I think he is doing it in a way that we should appreciate...

Lets say I bought a copy of I-Ninja at the CC 1.99 sale. I bought 2, one for me, one to trade. We all do that. But no one is biting...I'm stuck with a second copy. EB offers $5 for it, this guy offers $8. Seems to me the only one to gain is me.

So as long as this guy is civil and offers us more for our games than the local gamestores, then I say welcome. What he does with the game after I sell it to him is none of my concern.
 
[quote name='DuelLadyS']I dunno if I call this hoarding... to me, hoarding would would be replying 1 minute after Shrike puts up his trade thread and saying "I'll take all of it." [/QUOTE]

Thought I felt my ears burning for some reason. :whistle2:s

People, I'd appreciate it if you could keep it civil in this thread.

You may not like what the OP is doing, though it's his right to do so. If you don't want to have dealings with him, don't post in here.

If people wish to sell him games, it's their option, and if they don't, that's also their option.

Take this as a gentle reminder that threadcrapping isn't approved of, regardless of the reason. I'd appreciate people remembering that.

And if it comes down to it, this thread can always be locked by the OP's request.
 
this is bad news imo, and it's not threadcrapping

i think mods should seriously consider what it is to bring someone's private business into the community.

I also think that business proposals like this should be seperate from the trade forum, in the same way that the conga lines are.

Bringing stuff like this in fosters the idea that the trade forum is for profit, as opposed to trading and reasonable selling.

I'm all for profit, but that's reserved for ebay and a bonafide business.
 
[quote name='Sleepkyng']this is bad news imo, and it's not threadcrapping

i think mods should seriously consider what it is to bring someone's private business into the community.

I also think that business proposals like this should be seperate from the trade forum, in the same way that the conga lines are.

Bringing stuff like this in fosters the idea that the trade forum is for profit, as opposed to trading and reasonable selling.

I'm all for profit, but that's reserved for ebay and a bonafide business.[/QUOTE]

The trade forum is for people trading, buying and selling. "Reasonable" is in the eye of the beholder. Profit is also in the eye of the beholder. If someone here wants to pay a large amount for something, that's their choice. If he's not trying to scam money out of people or break the law, then there isn't an issue.
 
Hey, iheartmetal or other people with a IGN list. Is there a way to check for individual game prices through IGN? Do they price the games acurately? I wanted to see how accurate their estimated value of collections are.
 
[quote name='mkg12']Hey, iheartmetal or other people with a IGN list. Is there a way to check for individual game prices through IGN? Do they price the games acurately? I wanted to see how accurate their estimated value of collections are.[/QUOTE]

i hope nobody thinks i was thread crapping, i was dead serious.... and as far as i know there isnt a way of checking each individual game, and I have no idea how accurate it is, or where they get the values. A lot of people have thrown around the site http://www.digitpress.com/ .... I believe .... to gauge the value of their games
 
Call it threadcrapping if you want, but I still stand behind my original point. The OP stated in another thread how his business was booming and how he loved buying at wholesale, and how retailers charge too much for games. He then makes it a point to make this thread, stating that "his suppliers have run out". The rest speaks for itself.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']Call it threadcrapping if you want, but I still stand behind my original point. The OP stated in another thread how his business was booming and how he loved buying at wholesale, and how retailers charge too much for games. He then makes it a point to make this thread, stating that "his suppliers have run out". The rest speaks for itself.[/QUOTE]

People don't have to sell him anything here. No one's being forced to make sales.

If you don't want to deal with him, then don't.
 
[quote name='mkg12']Hey, iheartmetal or other people with a IGN list. Is there a way to check for individual game prices through IGN? Do they price the games acurately? I wanted to see how accurate their estimated value of collections are.[/QUOTE]

Not really, all they do is give games the prices that Gamestop.com has listed for them, so you're not getting a fair estimate.
 
I made my collection list through 1up... they do individual prices. But as for how accurate they are, I dunno. Which reminds me, must take Phantasy Star 2 & 3 off list, as I traded those.

What? I don't like them and I've got PSCollection on the GBA.
 
[quote name='Derwood43']OP,

Who is your supplier? I'd like to go direct if I could.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind knowing this as well. Doubtful he'll give it up though.
 
[quote name='chickenhawk']I wouldn't mind knowing this as well. Doubtful he'll give it up though.[/QUOTE]


He's not hoarding, so it should be free reign...
 
thanks, imetalheartmetal, i know about digitalpress already, i just wanted to enter all my games into something and have it bust out some number for my collection that is semi accurate.


[quote name='supermariomelee']Not really, all they do is give games the prices that Gamestop.com has listed for them, so you're not getting a fair estimate.[/QUOTE]
In my experience on gamestop.com, it seems they tend to semi-accurate prices on a bunch of games. Except for the higher priced games like suikoden II for $49.99. But at the same time there are a bunch that are overpriced like breath of fire 2(SNES) for $47.99. So now that i think of it i dont know what to think of gamestop pricing.
 
[quote name='shrike4242']People don't have to sell him anything here. No one's being forced to make sales.

If you don't want to deal with him, then don't.[/QUOTE]

I understand that completely, however, you should read the other thread to understand the full context of this discussion. This guy brags that he can get games for so cheap "wholesale" and now he's backpeddling and saying his supplies have run out. Amusing if I do say so.
 
[quote name='mtxbass1']I understand that completely, however, you should read the other thread to understand the full context of this discussion. This guy brags that he can get games for so cheap "wholesale" and now he's backpeddling and saying his supplies have run out. Amusing if I do say so.[/QUOTE]

I read the other thread, and I'm sure others will as well. If they want to deal with someone who's said one thing in one spot and another here, it's their choice.

People need to occasionally use their brain before doing something and if they don't, that's their choice.
 
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