My friend recently got married so another friend & I are looking to get him a 360, yes he calls himself a gamer & doesn't have a 360 yet, lol. So I'd say that the best deal, greatest value for your money, is the one Best Buy has going on where you get the 60gb 360, which I believe already come with 2 game, & you get 2 more games for free at it's normal price point of $299.99. This is also nice so he can have more games to play & earn Achievement Points. So I'll be looking at that for him, his wife also likes to game too. So it's a great deal. For me I think that Burnout Paradise at Target for $20 would work just fine.