Catholics go bananas over a cracker!

He went into someone else's religious services and acted very disrespectfully. This is not an appropriate way to protest how these organizations are being funded.

Its not about the wafer, he's ridiculing their religious beliefs. They believe it represents the body and blood of Christ. He's basically spitting on those people.
 
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cracker, huh?

Well, we certainly can leave it up to VG to get to the heart of the matter and deliver the news with pride, objectivity, nuance, and sensitivity towards the victim.

The eucharist is much more than just a fuckin' triscuit. It's classless to act like it isn't, and to belittle its symbolic relevance is childish, incorrect, and naive.

But, hey, this is the internet, where it's only appropriate to be an insensitive asshole at every turn along the way! I'm anonymous! So ha-ha to you, dead soldier! fuck you, dumb queer/cunt/"coon"! Oh, I see you're handicapped because of your job; guess you should have called in that day, ha-ho! Oh, man, those wacky Catholics get awfully protective of their simple carbohydrates!

Some days I hate the internet on the whole; it's much more complex than a moving collection of jaded piss-takers and morons, but some days it takes a lot of patience to realize that.
 
That Eucharist is officially blessed to become the body...and while we all know that it isn't human flesh, it's a real assholish thing to do. You can't even throw out the Eucharist- you have to like burn it or something.

Haha he probably took it because it tastes good...

[quote name='Webster Cook']Cook said he'd consider returning the Eucharist if he gets an apology and a meeting with the Bishop's office to discuss the Diocese's policy on physical force.[/quote]

Wow...this guy's a real pussy...I go to a public school (my choice) but my brother's in a Catholic school, and he gets hit almost daily by the nuns for seemingly nothing...if this asshole actually sues...then just wow.
 
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I don't really believe in religion either, but not agreeing with something is no excuse to go desecrating another group's beliefs or symbols.
 
What he did was very disrespectful, but then again so is Catholic priests molesting children, but I guess 2 wrongs don't make a right.

And no, I don't believe that just because there was an episode of Southpark about it.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']
But, hey, this is the internet, where it's only appropriate to be an insensitive asshole at every turn along the way! I'm anonymous! So ha-ha to you, dead soldier! fuck you, dumb queer/cunt/"coon"! Oh, I see you're handicapped because of your job; guess you should have called in that day, ha-ho! Oh, man, those wacky Catholics get awfully protective of their simple carbohydrates!

Some days I hate the internet on the whole; it's much more complex than a moving collection of jaded piss-takers and morons, but some days it takes a lot of patience to realize that.[/quote]HA! I like how you somehow felt it neccessary to put coon in quotations. Worried you might call YOURSELF a racist for using it if you don't? But hey, you didn't use them for "dumb queer", so you must be cool with coming off like a homophobe, I guess?

Some days I love the internet on the whole; it's much more complex than a moving collection of overly serious blowhards who take posting on a video games forum so serious, but some days, it takes a lot of patience to realize that.
 
And now you know why I hate this fucking school so much. Everyone who sets foot on that campus is quickly driven insane with no escape in sight.

*rocks back and forth in the corner*
 
I think it's being over blown, the guy wanted to show someone what it was, what's so wrong with that? If anyone did actually grab him like that, apparently more than once, it's far worse than anything he did. If they'd just let him show it to the other person, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead they had to start getting physical and escalating the situation.
 
[quote name='lordwow']I don't really believe in religion either, but not agreeing with something is no excuse to go desecrating another group's beliefs or symbols.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I hate when religious people shove their beliefs down others throats, so it's absurd for a non-religious person to do the same thing in such a disruptive and offensive manner.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I think it's being over blown, the guy wanted to show someone what it was, what's so wrong with that? If anyone did actually grab him like that, apparently more than once, it's far worse than anything he did. If they'd just let him show it to the other person, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead they had to start getting physical and escalating the situation.[/QUOTE]

the only reason anyone layed a hand on him is because he disrupted the serivce. if hes upset about religious organizations receiving student funds there are far better ways to go about protesting.
 
[quote name='dmaul1114']Exactly. I hate when religious people shove their beliefs down others throats, so it's absurd for a non-religious person to do the same thing in such a disruptive and offensive manner.[/quote]

That's basically it. For an athiest this is like the guy who comes into work sprinkling holy water on everyone or the HS teacher who lectures about the bible as if it's a scientific account of how the world was formed.

Plus the story is boring. Wake me when someone steals something weird like a Scientology ee meter machine, a ritual sword from the Masonic temple, or the Pope's hat.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I think it's being over blown, the guy wanted to show someone what it was, what's so wrong with that? If anyone did actually grab him like that, apparently more than once, it's far worse than anything he did. If they'd just let him show it to the other person, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead they had to start getting physical and escalating the situation.[/QUOTE]

If he went there and intended to just show his friend, he would've been much better off asking the priest after the mass. Priests are usually happy to oblige those showing an interest in his faith. Definitely seems to me he went there intent on causing some trouble.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I think it's being over blown, the guy wanted to show someone what it was, what's so wrong with that? If anyone did actually grab him like that, apparently more than once, it's far worse than anything he did. If they'd just let him show it to the other person, there probably wouldn't have been a problem. Instead they had to start getting physical and escalating the situation.[/QUOTE]
He could've acted with respect and asked for a wafer that had not been blessed. Might've also been nice if he hadn't disrupted the service in the first place. He went there with the intent to cause trouble.

Would you goose step into a synagogue? I don't think so. This guy deserves a good smack upside the head for being an asshole.
 
[quote name='dafoomie']He went into someone else's religious services and acted very disrespectfully. This is not an appropriate way to protest how these organizations are being funded.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']So ha-ha to you, dead soldier! [/quote]

:rofl:

[quote name='VanillaGorilla']HA! I like how you somehow felt it neccessary to put coon in quotations. Worried you might call YOURSELF a racist for using it if you don't? [/quote]

:rofl:
 
I'll say it:

fuck Bill Donahue, fuck the Catholic Church, and fuck religion. I really don't give a rat's ass if someone things a gert-damned cracker is somehow magically the body of a long-dead (and maybe even nonexistant) prophet. IT'S JUST A CRACKER. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. An absolute, unequivocal fool.
 
[quote name='evanft']I'll say it:

fuck Bill Donahue, fuck the Catholic Church, and fuck religion. I really don't give a rat's ass if someone things a gert-damned cracker is somehow magically the body of a long-dead (and maybe even nonexistant) prophet. IT'S JUST A CRACKER. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. An absolute, unequivocal fool.[/quote]

So you think it's a cracker and Catholics think it's the body of Christ. What does it hurt you to leave their private ritual practice alone?

You and VG have a pretty fascist attitude about this case. I don't like the idea of any one group going in and disrupting the private religious practices of another, whether it's atheist on Christian, Muslim on Muslim, or Communist on Buddhist.
 
Getting all butt hurt over some Ritz..pfftt..

But seriously, as much as a I detest religions on a whole, that kids a dick. They were doing their thing in peace, not bothering a soul. Let them be.

I'm 28, is it to early to say I hate the younger generation?
 
Sure it's just a cracker. Leave the people and their crackers the hell alone.

[quote name='homeland']I'm 28, is it to early to say I hate the younger generation?[/QUOTE]

They won't be half as bad in youth as the boomers will be in old age.
 
1st thing: Im Catholic, but not one of those psycho super religious people.

2: it is wrong to run in and do that during communion. That's not argueable. If you have a problem, do I some other time.

3. Personally, the "cracker" is just a cracker. Of course I don't actually believe it magically turns into the body of Christ. But that's not the point. It supposed to be a show of faith, that's it.

There are a whole bunch of things wrong with the Catholic faith, but this isn't one of them.
 
I didn't read this nd I don't care but a friend of mine showed me a video of some grumpy blck man going "Jesus Christ is a homosexual cracker!" I should find that video.
 
I didn't really even say anything about this or express an opinion one way or another. It IS a cracker. I could get the Pope himself to bless a half eaten polska kielbasa, and get him to call it "The Cock of Christ", but either way, it's still just a sausage.
 
[quote name='camoor']So you think it's a cracker and Catholics think it's the body of Christ. What does it hurt you to leave their private ritual practice alone? [/quote]

I frankly don't care what they think or feel it is. It clearly just is what it is, and that's a cracker. Period. The fact that any reasonable human being would respond to this the way some Catholics have is absolutely appalling.
 
Do not try to bend the spoon; that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth. There is no spoon. Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
 
[quote name='camoor']Do not try to bend the spoon; that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth. There is no spoon. Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.[/QUOTE]

yeah! and if you have a fork, then you can use it to eat meat or a salad!
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Or better yet, stick it in this thread.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='VioletArrows']And now you know why I hate this fucking school so much. Everyone who sets foot on that campus is quickly driven insane with no escape in sight.

*rocks back and forth in the corner*[/quote]I'm with violet on this one. UCF blows pretty hard.

There's always this one really old guy near the library giving out these crazy religious speeches about going to hell or something. It usually gathers a crowd, but most likely because they're there to see the clown show rather than being interested in the religious message. I don't think he's all that well in terms of his brain because of his age.
 
[quote name='evanft']I'll say it:

fuck Bill Donahue, fuck the Catholic Church, and fuck religion. I really don't give a rat's ass if someone things a gert-damned cracker is somehow magically the body of a long-dead (and maybe even nonexistant) prophet. IT'S JUST A CRACKER. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. An absolute, unequivocal fool.[/QUOTE]
Thats not the point. This guy walked into somebody elses religious services, disrupted them, and abused a religious symbol (the wafer). I wouldn't walk into a synagogue and extinguish their Hanukkah candles. Its just a silly candle to me, but it means something to them. That is the point.

You don't have to agree with what they believe, but let them worship in peace. If you enter someone's place of worship, you should abide by their rules and customs as best you can, or get out.

This person has a gripe about how religious services are funded on campus, and he went there with the intent of causing a scene. This wasn't some innocent misunderstanding - he has stated his agenda and he knew what he was doing when he went there.
 
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[quote name='homeland']I'm 28, is it to early to say I hate the younger generation?[/quote]

I'm 24 and have been saying it for the last two years. :whistle2:#

Is there a market for blessed foods?

*ponders opening up an eBay store*
 
[quote name='evanft']I'll say it:

fuck Bill Donahue[/QUOTE]

I'll give ya that. He's increasingly the Catholics' very own Al Sharpton.
 
I once read a survey that said that something like 40% of people actually don't consume the Eucharist, doing the same thing he does taking it back to there seat and then putting it on the ground or sticking it under neath the seats.

Either way I agree with Dafoomie, if he wanted to teach his friend about his religion why didn't he show him the most important item, the bible.
 
[quote name='JolietJake']I think it's being over blown, the guy wanted to show someone what it was, what's so wrong with that? If anyone did actually grab him like that, apparently more than once, it's far worse than anything he did.[/quote]

Have you ever even been in a Catholic school? Sure, the nuns are really strict...and they'll beat your ass if you do the smallest thing...but they're also the people that will always help out the needy when they can.

It's been known and accepted for centuries that nuns (and even Catholics) grab, smack, hit, and punch their students and younger members of their parish.

Of course, if it gets taken too far then there has to be some discipline or reprimanding, but honestly...this guy's a pussy. No other word for it, maybe asshole.

[quote name='dafoomie']He could've acted with respect and asked for a wafer that had not been blessed. Might've also been nice if he hadn't disrupted the service in the first place. He went there with the intent to cause trouble.

Would you goose step into a synagogue? I don't think so. This guy deserves a good smack upside the head for being an asshole.[/quote]

EXACTLY

[quote name='evanft']I'll say it:

fuck Bill Donahue, fuck the Catholic Church, and fuck religion. I really don't give a rat's ass if someone things a gert-damned cracker is somehow magically the body of a long-dead (and maybe even nonexistant) prophet. IT'S JUST A CRACKER. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool. An absolute, unequivocal fool.[/quote]

You don't sound like you're worth a rat's ass...but seriously, you can't deny whethe or not Jesus existed- he did. The question is whether or not he's the Son of God (Christian belief), a prophet (Muslim belief), or just a nice guy with some friendly beliefs (most atheists).

And these same Catholics are the ones helping out the poor while you sit back in your mom's basement and enjoy life without God...
 
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Being ignorant of Catholic rituals, the waffer is suppose to represent jesus's flesh. If he was alive would he be canibilized? Of course this comes off as sarcastic, but it isn't. I really don't understand the whole "flesh" waffer aspect. Seems abit primative.
 
[quote name='homeland']Being ignorant of Catholic rituals, the waffer is suppose to represent jesus's flesh. If he was alive would he be canibilized? Of course this comes off as sarcastic, but it isn't. I really don't understand the whole "flesh" waffer aspect. Seems abit primative.[/quote]

[quote name='Matthew 26'] While they were eating, Jesus took some bread, and after a blessing, He broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is My body.” 27 And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. 29 “But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.” [/quote]

Yep.
 
[quote name='Unickuta']You don't sound like you're worth a rat's ass...but seriously, you can't deny whethe or not Jesus existed- he did. The question is whether or not he's the Son of God (Christian belief), a prophet (Muslim belief), or just a nice guy with some friendly beliefs (most atheists).

And these same Catholics are the ones helping out the poor while you sit back in your mom's basement and enjoy life without God...[/quote]

I like how your post started off reasonable and then veered way off into the deep end.

There's no consensus among historians that Jesus existed (serious historians demand more then a few stories in a book and alot of people who believe said stories on a "faith" basis)

Also wtf is up with the last sentence? Catholics are the only ones who help the poor? You come off as pretty ignorant.
 
[quote name='homeland']Being ignorant of Catholic rituals, the waffer is suppose to represent jesus's flesh. If he was alive would he be canibilized? Of course this comes off as sarcastic, but it isn't. I really don't understand the whole "flesh" waffer aspect. Seems abit primative.[/quote]

Christians have been coopting "Pagan" beliefs for centuries. Did you think it's a coincidence that Jesus died in the middle of winter and rose to heaven in the middle of spring (death/rebirth cycles of agrarian societies)? Or that the pantheon of gods has been replaced with a pantheon of saints? Or that cultish devotion to Mary often resembles the respect once paid to the mother goddess? Or the easiest of the bunch - Halloween - they didn't even bother to give this one a very good BS Christian backstory.
 
The school paper (which should be taken with a shaker of salt, I swear middle schoolers could do better journalism) has been going back and forth between him and the SGA trying to figure out what to do with him and his post; he'll probably be impeached. Everyone keeps changing their stories. Best part is reading all the threats he keeps getting.
 
[quote name='camoor']I like how your post started off reasonable and then veered way off into the deep end.

There's no consensus among historians that Jesus existed (serious historians demand more then a few stories in a book and alot of people who believe said stories on a "faith" basis)

Also wtf is up with the last sentence? Catholics are the only ones who help the poor? You come off as pretty ignorant.[/QUOTE]

All good points. I'm perfectly content to say that whether Jesus existed or not isn't even all that important, but the evidence that he *did* exist is far from conclusive. The Romans kept such meticulous records that even today, we can tell how much an individual legionnaire owed the government for the lease of his armor, but there's NO record of such an important troublemaker, a huge thorn in the side of the empire? I find that unlikely.
 
[quote name='trq']The Romans kept such meticulous records that even today, we can tell how much an individual legionnaire owed the government for the lease of his armor, but there's NO record of such an important troublemaker, a huge thorn in the side of the empire?[/quote]

Which would you rather have for someone who basically turned hundreds of thousands of people against you, your god(s) and your way of life? Infamy in the form of hundreds of public records stating some guy with charisma out the ass didn't have to lift a finger to start massive change, or to destroy all reference to everything he cared about, feed some dissenters to the lions and hope it fades away?
 
Ah yes, let's argue about matters of faith. It couldn't possibly end badly, and is sure to be productive.

How about we agree that Jesus is locked in a semi-perpetual state of both existence and non-existence? You know, Schrödinger's Messiah and all that.
 
[quote name='VioletArrows']Which would you rather have for someone who basically turned hundreds of thousands of people against you, your god(s) and your way of life? Infamy in the form of hundreds of public records stating some guy with charisma out the ass didn't have to lift a finger to start massive change, or to destroy all reference to everything he cared about, feed some dissenters to the lions and hope it fades away?[/quote]

You may have had a point if there were no public records of dissenters throughout all of history. However, the facts seem to disagree with you. ;_;

Please try again. :)
 
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