China, the land of cannibalism

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Well, at least according to a recent japanese bestseller.

I've never looked at japan as a land of tolerance or acceptance, hell there seems to be a large acceptance of bigotry there(other asian countries, blacks etc.) and failure to concern themselves with past atrocities. Though this one kind of suprised me a bit. Not so much that it exists, but with how mainstream it is and that these books can make bestseller lists. I've always thought of the racism in japan as more covert, the type that isn't immediately apparent. Guess there's a lot more of the good ol american style racism than I thought:

Ugly images of Asian rivals become best sellers in Japan
TOKYO - A young Japanese woman in the comic book "Hating the Korean Wave" exclaims, "It's not an exaggeration to say that Japan built the South Korea of today!" In another passage the book states that "there is nothing at all in Korean culture to be proud of."

In another comic book, "Introduction to China," which portrays the Chinese as a depraved people obsessed with cannibalism, a woman of Japanese origin says: "Take the China of today, its principles, thought, literature, art, science, institutions. There's nothing attractive." ..........

The two comic books, portraying Chinese and Koreans as base peoples and advocating confrontation with them, have become runaway best sellers in Japan in the last four months.

In their graphic and unflattering drawings of Japan's fellow Asians and in the unapologetic, often offensive contents of their speech bubbles, the books reveal some of the sentiments underlying Japan's worsening relations with the rest of Asia.

They also point to Japan's longstanding unease with the rest of Asia and its own sense of identity, which is akin to Britain's apartness from the Continent. Much of Japan's history in the last century and a half has been guided by the goal of becoming more like the West and less like Asia. Today, China and South Korea's rise to challenge Japan's position as Asia's economic, diplomatic and cultural leader is inspiring renewed xenophobia against them here.

Kanji Nishio, a scholar of German literature, is honorary chairman of the Japanese Society for History Textbook Reform, the nationalist organization that has pushed to have references to the country's wartime atrocities eliminated from junior high school textbooks.

Mr. Nishio is blunt about how Japan should deal with its neighbors, saying nothing has changed since 1885, when one of modern Japan's most influential intellectuals, Yukichi Fukuzawa, said Japan should emulate the advanced nations of the West and leave Asia by dissociating itself from its backward neighbors, especially China and Korea.

"I wonder why they haven't grown up at all," Mr. Nishio said. "They don't change. I wonder why China and Korea haven't learned anything."

Mr. Nishio, who wrote a chapter in the comic book about South Korea, said Japan should try to cut itself off from China and South Korea, as Fukuzawa advocated. "Currently we cannot ignore South Korea and China," Mr. Nishio said. "Economically, it's difficult. But in our hearts, psychologically, we should remain composed and keep that attitude."

The reality that South Korea had emerged as a rival hit many Japanese with full force in 2002, when the countries were co-hosts of soccer's World Cup and South Korea advanced further than Japan. At the same time, the so-called Korean Wave - television dramas, movies and music from South Korea - swept Japan and the rest of Asia, often displacing Japanese pop cultural exports.

The wave, though popular among Japanese women, gave rise to a countermovement, especially on the Internet. Sharin Yamano, the young cartoonist behind "Hating the Korean Wave," began his strip on his own Web site then.

"The 'Hate Korea' feelings have spread explosively since the World Cup," said Akihide Tange, an editor at Shinyusha, the publisher of the comic book. Still, the number of sales, 360,000 so far, surprised the book's editors, suggesting that the Hate Korea movement was far larger than they had believed.

"We weren't expecting there'd be so many," said Susumu Yamanaka, another editor at Shinyusha. "But when the lid was actually taken off, we found a tremendous number of people feeling this way."

So far the two books, each running about 300 pages and costing around $10, have drawn little criticism from public officials, intellectuals or the mainstream news media. For example, Japan's most conservative national daily, Sankei Shimbun, said the Korea book described issues between the countries "extremely rationally, without losing its balance."

As nationalists and revisionists have come to dominate the public debate in Japan, figures advocating an honest view of history are being silenced, said Yutaka Yoshida, a historian at Hitotsubashi University here. Mr. Yoshida said the growing movement to deny history, like the Rape of Nanjing, was a sort of "religion" for an increasingly insecure nation. "Lacking confidence, they need a story of healing," Mr. Yoshida said. "Even if we say that story is different from facts, it doesn't mean anything to them."

The Korea book's cartoonist, who is working on a sequel, has turned down interview requests. The book centers on a Japanese teenager, Kaname, who attains a "correct" understanding of Korea. It begins with a chapter on how South Korea's soccer team supposedly cheated to advance in the 2002 Word Cup; later chapters show how Kaname realizes that South Korea owes its current success to Japanese colonialism.

"It is Japan who made it possible for Koreans to join the ranks of major nations, not themselves," Mr. Nishio said of colonial Korea.
But the comic book, perhaps inadvertently, also betrays Japan's conflicted identity, its longstanding feelings of superiority toward Asia and of inferiority toward the West. The Japanese characters in the book are drawn with big eyes, blond hair and Caucasian features; the Koreans are drawn with black hair, narrow eyes and very Asian features. ......

In 1885, Fukuzawa - who is revered to this day as the intellectual father of modern Japan and adorns the 10,000 yen bill (the rough equivalent of a $100 bill) - wrote "Leaving Asia," the essay that many scholars believe provided the intellectual underpinning of Japan's subsequent invasion and colonization of Asian nations.

Fukuzawa bemoaned the fact that Japan's neighbors were hopelessly backward.

Writing that "those with bad companions cannot avoid bad reputations," Fukuzawa said Japan should depart from Asia and "cast our lot with the civilized countries of the West." He wrote of Japan's Asian neighbors, "We should deal with them exactly as the Westerners do."

As those sentiments took root, the Japanese began acquiring Caucasian features in popular drawing. The biggest change occurred during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904 to 1905, when drawings of the war showed Japanese standing taller than Russians, with straight noses and other features that made them look more European than their European enemies.

"The Japanese had to look more handsome than the enemy," said Mr. Nagayama.

Many of the same influences are at work in the other new comic book, "An Introduction to China," which depicts the Chinese as obsessed with cannibalism and prostitution, and has sold 180,000 copies.

The book describes China as the "world's prostitution superpower" and says, without offering evidence, that prostitution accounts for 10 percent of the country's gross domestic product. It describes China as a source of disease and depicts Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi saying, "I hear that most of the epidemics that broke out in Japan on a large scale are from China."

The book waves away Japan's worst wartime atrocities in China. It dismisses the Rape of Nanjing, in which historians say 100,000 to 300,000 Chinese were killed by Japanese soldiers in 1937-38, as a fabrication of the Chinese government devised to spread anti-Japanese sentiment.

The book also says the Japanese Imperial Army's Unit 731 - which researched biological warfare and conducted vivisections, amputations and other experiments on thousands of Chinese and other prisoners - was actually formed to defend Japanese soldiers against the Chinese.

"The only attractive thing that China has to offer is Chinese food," said Ko Bunyu, a Taiwan-born writer who provided the script for the comic book. Mr. Ko, 66, has written more than 50 books on China, some on cannibalism and others arguing that Japanese were the real victims of their wartime atrocities in China. The book's main author and cartoonist, a Japanese named George Akiyama, declined to be interviewed.

Like some in Taiwan who are virulently anti-mainland, Mr. Ko is fiercely pro-Japanese and has lived here for four decades. A longtime favorite of the Japanese right, Mr. Ko said anti-Japan demonstrations in Chinese mainland early this year had earned him a wider audience. Sales of his books surged this year, to one million.
"I have to thank the mainland, really," Mr. Ko said. "But I'm disappointed that the sales of my books could have been more than one or two million if they had continued the demonstrations."


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-11/21/content_496553.htm

The article is not a chinese one, but from the new york times. I don't have a subscription to them and chinadaily simply posted the NYT article on its website.
 
Very ironic since that Japanese guy who ate a woman in France is treated as a Celebrity when he got back to Japan.
As for Chinese culture, it seems like they still cant get enough the stories of the Three Kingdoms, Suikoden, or Journy to the West.

Also Japan has no probelm with Tom Cruise and is second largest market for Hollywood, but some how has a problem with Bae Yong Jun (actor) or Rain (singer).

Koreans is the largest non Japanese people in Japan. In Japan, the Koreans are like the blacks of the USA. They are seen as not good student but good at sport. Until recently, all Koreans had to carry a black book that is very similar to the pass book that are used in the apartheid South Africa. If they dont have the book, they are arrested and given criminal record. This is very similar to a certain law with blacks in the US. As a result, a large % of Koreans youth have criminal record. Also you cannot get Japanese citizen by birth, so many Japanese born Korean are not citizen.
 
[quote name='62t']Very ironic since that Japanese guy who ate a woman in France is treated as a Celebrity when he got back to Japan.
As for Chinese culture, it seems like they still cant get enough the stories of the Three Kingdoms, Suikoden, or Journy to the West.

Also Japan has no probelm with Tom Cruise and is second largest market for Hollywood, but some how has a problem with Bae Yong Jun (actor) or Rain (singer).

Koreans is the largest non Japanese people in Japan. In Japan, the Koreans are like the blacks of the USA. They are seen as not good student but good at sport. Until recently, all Koreans had to carry a black book that is very similar to the pass book that are used in the apartheid South Africa. If they dont have the book, they are arrested and given criminal record. This is very similar to a certain law with blacks in the US. As a result, a large % of Koreans youth have criminal record. Also you cannot get Japanese citizen by birth, so many Japanese born Korean are not citizen.[/QUOTE]

If you're talking about the same guy I think you're talking about you're wrong. This is a man who is SHUNNED by almost his entire family, with the exception of his father. I don't think he's a celebrity at all.
Not to say I'm defending Japan but I don't think it helps much when one of the people who WANTS to speak about one of Japan's tragedies is summarily dismissed. It's perpetual.
 
[quote name='62t']Koreans is the largest non Japanese people in Japan. In Japan, the Koreans are like the blacks of the USA. They are seen as not good student but good at sport. Until recently, all Koreans had to carry a black book that is very similar to the pass book that are used in the apartheid South Africa. If they dont have the book, they are arrested and given criminal record. This is very similar to a certain law with blacks in the US. As a result, a large % of Koreans youth have criminal record. Also you cannot get Japanese citizen by birth, so many Japanese born Korean are not citizen.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? There is no US law that requires black people to carry around special identification.
 
[quote name='camoor']What are you talking about? There is no US law that requires black people to carry around special identification.[/QUOTE]
I am referring to the drug laws in US that criminalize many black youth in the US.
 
[quote name='62t']I am referring to the drug laws in US that criminalize many black youth in the US.[/QUOTE]

Yes, how dare the police enforce the law against blacks! It's racist, I tell you!

The only truth, it seems, to the ugly writing in the books is that South Korea got as far as they did in the World Cup by bullshit. They only got past Italy and especially Spain due to incredibly incompetent refereeing.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23'] Guess there's a lot more of the good ol american style racism than I thought:
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As if racism originated in Amreica and everyone is just borrowing from our example. You really have no concept of the world that exists out there apart from your own little special one. And Canada doesn't count as a foreign country.

Bravo Alonzo, you have finally rounded out your rough draft of your illogical and invalid reasons for hating america.
 
once again you make broad assumptions about a statement I made. America is known for vocal, in your face racism. That has nothing to do with inventing racism or being the only country likely that, that's just what we're known for.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']once again you make broad assumptions about a statement I made. America is known for vocal, in your face racism. That has nothing to do with inventing racism or being the only country likely that, that's just what we're known for.[/QUOTE]

I do have to disupte that. While racism does certainly exist here, we're amateurs compared to Europe. We don't like someone because of skin color. They have it refined almost to a science. Disliking based on nationality. Many centuries of practice, I guess.
 
[quote name='Quillion']I do have to disupte that. While racism does certainly exist here, we're amateurs compared to Europe. We don't like someone because of skin color. They have it refined almost to a science. Disliking based on nationality. Many centuries of practice, I guess.[/QUOTE]

So you don't think america is most famous for that form of racism? It has nothing to do with who is most deserving of that reputation, simply who has that reputation.
 
[quote name='Quillion']I do have to disupte that. While racism does certainly exist here, we're amateurs compared to Europe. We don't like someone because of skin color. They have it refined almost to a science. Disliking based on nationality. Many centuries of practice, I guess.[/QUOTE]

America has done that throughout its history, whether it's because they're Irish, Chinese, Japanese, German, Italian, Greek, etc.
 
I know that a lot of Chinese people still hold a grudge against Japan since 10 million Chinese were killed in World War 2 (funny how no one seems to care that the Japanese were as vicious against innocent people as the Germans.) Not that this matters but...hmm... *shuts up*
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']America has done that throughout its history, whether it's because they're Irish, Chinese, Japanese, German, Italian, Greek, etc.[/QUOTE]

And yet we are one of the most diverse nations in the world and live in virtual harmony compared to almost all others. If anything, we are a shining example to the rest of the world of a country dedicated to eliminating racism and not the architype of it's propagation as Alonzo believes. You watch too much TV and read too many liberal rags, Alonzo. I still don't know why you(alonzo) cling to this hatred of America, so much so you'll even make up reasons in your head of how shitty it is here. It must just be the rebellious youth phase of your late teens. Some are unlucky enough never to outgrow it.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']And yet we are one of the most diverse nations in the world and live in virtual harmony compared to almost all others.[/QUOTE]
We may be a diverse state, but the diversity is mixing together as well as water and oil. We aren't exactly a nation, since there's a lot of people out there that still hail customs back to their home countries where they immigrated from.

On top of which , racism is still quite rampant. France may have had their riots by muslims a few weeks ago, but we also had plenty of race riots, like the LA riots of 1992 sparked by Rodney King. The parallels are mind boggling. The LA riots were sparked by the beating of a black man by white police men. Symbolic of white supremacy over blacks dating back to slavery. In France, the riots were sparked by Cops running after and allegedly killing two African muslim boys. This was symbolic of French supremacy over Africans dating back to colonization (especially in Algeria).

Virtual is quite a key word. We aren't constantly slaughtering each other, but there's more than enough animosity for different races, ethnicities and cultures.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']We may be a diverse state, but the diversity is mixing together as well as water and oil. We aren't exactly a nation, since there's a lot of people out there that still hail customs back to their home countries where they immigrated from.

On top of which , racism is still quite rampant. France may have had their riots by muslims a few weeks ago, but we also had plenty of race riots, like the LA riots of 1992 sparked by Rodney King. The parallels are mind boggling. The LA riots were sparked by the beating of a black man by white police men. Symbolic of white supremacy over blacks dating back to slavery. In France, the riots were sparked by Cops running after and allegedly killing two African muslim boys. This was symbolic of French supremacy over Africans dating back to colonization (especially in Algeria).

Virtual is quite a key word. We aren't constantly slaughtering each other, but there's more than enough animosity for different races, ethnicities and cultures.[/QUOTE]

Yet racism did not originate here and was not honed and polished to perfection in America as alonzo wants to believe. It just seems to be part of human nature and not a uniquely American trait to be celebrated as a reason for other countries to hate us. No one can deny that racism exists, we can always find a reason to hate other people. Alonzo is just fascinated with self-hatred, which baffles me.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Yet racism did not originate here and was not honed and polished to perfection in America as alonzo wants to believe. It just seems to be part of human nature and not a uniquely American trait to be celebrated as a reason for other countries to hate us. No one can deny that racism exists, we can always find a reason to hate other people. Alonzo is just fascinated with self-hatred, which baffles me.[/QUOTE]

While I can't speak for Alonzo, his point seems to point to there being a certain "style" or racism.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']While I can't speak for Alonzo, his point seems to point to there being a certain "style" or racism.[/QUOTE]

Yes, here's his quote:

I've always thought of the racism in japan as more covert, the type that isn't immediately apparent. Guess there's a lot more of the good ol american style racism than I thought

American style as overt compared to hidden as in Japan. An unsubstantiated assumption from someone who has no concept of racism in other countries of the world as a basis. We are not known for our racism throughout the world as alonzo believes. We are many things to the world community, and racism is far down on the list as it exists in all countries and communities and America isn't singled out becuase of it.

In fact, in almost every other country in the world, racism is more in-your-face and openly practiced than it is here. In America, at least there's a discourse and a social conscience of racism being unjust and changable. In most countries it's just accepted and practiced as an immutable fact.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Yes, here's his quote:

I've always thought of the racism in japan as more covert, the type that isn't immediately apparent. Guess there's a lot more of the good ol american style racism than I thought

American style as overt compared to hidden as in Japan. An unsubstantiated assumption from someone who has no concept of racism in other countries of the world as a basis. We are not known for our racism throughout the world as alonzo believes. We are many things to the world community, and racism is far down on the list as it exists in all countries and communities and America isn't singled out becuase of it.

In fact, in almost every other country in the world, racism is more in-your-face and openly practiced than it is here. In America, at least there's a discourse and a social conscience of racism being unjust and changable. In most countries it's just accepted and practiced as an immutable fact.[/QUOTE]

You really shouldn't listen to alonzo, he's just some evil, tree hugging, short bus riding liberal wonder tard.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']American style as overt compared to hidden as in Japan. An unsubstantiated assumption from someone who has no concept of racism in other countries of the world as a basis. We are not known for our racism throughout the world as alonzo believes. We are many things to the world community, and racism is far down on the list as it exists in all countries and communities and America isn't singled out becuase of it.[/QUOTE]
More muslims and muslim states are becoming more scared of America, because of what they believe is a Racist sentiment or a War on Islam. Whether those fears are substantiated or not is irrelevent, since it's quite evident that many states out there firmly believe that.

[quote name='bmulligan'] In fact, in almost every other country in the world, racism is more in-your-face and openly practiced than it is here. In America, at least there's a discourse and a social conscience of racism being unjust and changable. In most countries it's just accepted and practiced as an immutable fact.[/QUOTE]
It seriously depends on the region. South Asian racism is far different than African racism. German racism is quite different than French racism which is different than British racism (read Jeremy Clarkson articles to get an idea).
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']More muslims and muslim states are becoming more scared of America, because of what they believe is a Racist sentiment or a War on Islam. Whether those fears are substantiated or not is irrelevent, since it's quite evident that many states out there firmly believe that.[/QUOTE]

Why are so many people under the erroneous assumption that Islam is a race?
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Why are so many people under the erroneous assumption that Islam is a race?[/QUOTE]
I must say, you're just arguing symantics. Obeying the letter of the law, if not the spirit.

Can you define what Race is? Anthropoligists like to tie common physical characteristics as belonging to a race. Meanwhile, these physical characteristics will not be tied to each other. They just flourish because there's little variation in a specific gene pool.

That being said, racism has taking on the eventual definition of discriminating against people based on their heritage, ethnicity, skin color, religion etc. People consider descriminationg against the Irish in 1800s America as "racism". However, the Irish aren't a race, they're an ethnic group.
 
[quote name='capitalist_mao']I must say, you're just arguing symantics. Obeying the letter of the law, if not the spirit.

Can you define what Race is? Anthropoligists like to tie common physical characteristics as belonging to a race. Meanwhile, these physical characteristics will not be tied to each other. They just flourish because there's little variation in a specific gene pool.

That being said, racism has taking on the eventual definition of discriminating against people based on their heritage, ethnicity, skin color, religion etc. People consider descriminationg against the Irish in 1800s America as "racism". However, the Irish aren't a race, they're an ethnic group.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps for YOU racism is the same as discriminating against people for things other than race, but in the real world it means discriminating based on race. As for a definition of race, the only relevant factor in discrimination would be an obvious physical trait, such as black skin or Asian-looking eyes, for example.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Perhaps for YOU racism is the same as discriminating against people for things other than race, but in the real world it means discriminating based on race. As for a definition of race, the only relevant factor in discrimination would be an obvious physical trait, such as black skin or Asian-looking eyes, for example.[/QUOTE]

As far as I can tell, there's no black skin race or asian-looking eyes race.

As for definition, this is the definition offered by many scholars. Unfortunately, I don't have my text books from last year, but the essays in them all point to racism being far more broad than what people perceive as a race of people solely based on physical characteristics.
 
Well, in the real world, racism is often used to describe a wide range of bigotry. Virtually any bigotry based on ethnicity, region, nationality etc. is often described as racism. Sometimes the wrod is intentionally expanded (most people don't interchange sexism and racism, but do it for effect occasionally) to include more. Basically, it has a very broad meaning and a more specific one.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Well, in the real world, racism is often used to describe a wide range of bigotry. Virtually any bigotry based on ethnicity, region, nationality etc. is often described as racism. Sometimes the wrod is intentionally expanded (most people don't interchange sexism and racism, but do it for effect occasionally) to include more. Basically, it has a very broad meaning and a more specific one.[/QUOTE]

I had no idea Massachusetts PC lingo had expanded the use of "racism" so much Alonzo :)
 
[quote name='elprincipe']I had no idea Massachusetts PC lingo had expanded the use of "racism" so much Alonzo :)[/QUOTE]

In the real world, liberals like alonzo just morph the definitions of words to their liking to use hyperbole to overemphasize a point that is usually erroneous but when spoken with enough force and conviction, can convince the uninformed that it 's the truth. . .

[quote name='alonzo']Well, in the real world, racism is often used to describe a wide range of bigotry. Virtually any bigotry based on ethnicity, region, nationality etc. is often described as racism. Sometimes the wrod is intentionally expanded (most people don't interchange sexism and racism, but do it for effect occasionally)[/QUOTE]
 
Anyone ever look into Chinese racism? During a war in Asia, if you happen not to be Han Chinese, Hui Muslims or Montagnard for example you my find you yourself and you people conveniently dead, and blamed on the war.
 
Did anyone ever look into Chinese Racisim? During a war in Asia if you happen not to be Han Chinese, but instead Hui Muslims or Montagnard, you may find yourself and your people conveniently dead, and blamed on the war.
 
Shut the fuck up, honkey bastards.

You act like Americans are so goddamn righteous, so what if there is a FICTIONAL COMIC that portrays CHinese as cannibals, YOU HAVE CHICK TRACKS AND THE MOTHERfuckING KU KUX KLAN!

You have no room whatsoever to get on your soapbox and claim the moral high ground.

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[quote name='Quackzilla']Shut the fuck up, honkey bastards.

You act like Americans are so goddamn righteous, so what if there is a FICTIONAL COMIC that portrays CHinese as cannibals, YOU HAVE CHICK TRACKS AND THE MOTHERfuckING KU KUX KLAN!

You have no room whatsoever to get on your soapbox and claim the moral high ground.

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Ah, the return of the famous Quackzilla "logic," where if someone else who happens to be from your country has done something wrong, you have no right to criticize anyone for anything. :roll:
 
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