Chris Mathews heard saying "Oh God" before RNC response speach

[quote name='thrustbucket']I don't hate MSNBC persay. I hate the fact that it's so trendy to pick on foxnews as somehow being the most slanted source of news, when it's clearly not. MSNBC is at least as bad, along with others. It's just trendy and cool to pick on them, and MSNBC (and especially NBC) happens to slant in a way that's more popular with the internet crowds, that's all.

They are both slanted, they are both more entertainment than news sources. In fact, I don't really believe in a "best news source" other than first person experience.


I've never been into 9/11 conspiracies. Awhile ago I did do some research on it, because I was bored. I concluded that the official report was very fishy and full of eyebrow raising holes; which is par for the course with almost any official government report - they are the opposite of independent. But that doesn't mean it was an inside job, nor does it necessarily mean anything. I certainly don't believe Bush headed up some type of secret cabal to perform 9/11 to beat the drums of war. It just means I believe there is likely more to the story than we are told.

But, unfortunately, you really can't do much research past that, because pretty much everyone willing to discuss it loves to jump to conclusions - which is exactly what I hate about 9/11 conspiracy theorists.[/quote]

Unfortunately a nuanced view is rare in the modern world. Americans love pigeon-holing people.
 
but.. wait, wut?

what are you saying?

you don't believe fire can cause a building to collapse?

skepticism's great and all, really (see #47 for acceptable skepticism).. but there's a limit..
 
[quote name='Koggit']but.. wait, wut?

what are you saying?

you don't believe fire can cause a building to collapse?

skepticism's great and all, really (see #47 for acceptable skepticism).. but there's a limit..[/QUOTE]

I agree with FOC, wtc 7 is the single biggest mystery of all of 9/11.

First of all, there is more evidence that a thermite like stubstance was used in it's collapse than there is for a regular fire.

Second of all, do you know how many buildings, in all of recorded history, have 100% collapsed due to just fire? Look it up, because you are certainly not going to believe me if I tell you.

Now, it's arguable that the twin towers fell due to other factors other than just fire, like impact, or their non-standard height. But WTC 7 was a very standard building.

Again, I am not trying to say it was an inside job. Given the sensitive departments that were contained in WTC7 it's not entirely wacko to think the building was rigged with a sort of 'self destruct' in the case of an emergency (like being ablaze). But that's just one theory.
 
[quote name='Koggit']but.. wait, wut?

what are you saying?

you don't believe fire can cause a building to collapse?

skepticism's great and all, really (see #47 for acceptable skepticism).. but there's a limit..[/quote]

I'm saying people call me a liar when I give them the government's version of the Building 7 collapse.
 
So how did this become yet another thread with the paranoid delusions of the mentally unstable Truthers?

I would like to once again point out that the best resources of our government could not cover up a simple burglary of a hotel. Willing destruction of giant-sized landmarks without the truth getting out? Good fucking luck.
 
[quote name='Survivor Charlie']So how did this become yet another thread with the paranoid delusions of the mentally unstable Truthers?

I would like to once again point out that the best resources of our government could not cover up a simple burglary of a hotel. Willing destruction of giant-sized landmarks without the truth getting out? Good fucking luck.[/quote]

Don't you recognize the parallels in the 9/11 Truth movement and believing in the Republican party?

EDIT: Did anybody think Matthew was finishing up when he exclaimed "Oh God!"?
 
[quote name='Survivor Charlie']So how did this become yet another thread with the paranoid delusions of the mentally unstable Truthers?

I would like to once again point out that the best resources of our government could not cover up a simple burglary of a hotel. Willing destruction of giant-sized landmarks without the truth getting out? Good fucking luck.[/QUOTE]

Nobody in this thread has claimed the government is guilty of anything beyond ineptitude.
 
I'll go ahead and blame the government for the post 9/11 anthrax attacks.

Two letters sent to the two people with the most potential to stall or kill the Patriot Act and were outspoken against it. Sole person responsible kills himself.
 
[quote name='thrustbucket']Nobody in this thread has claimed the government is guilty of anything beyond ineptitude.[/quote]

Now, now. If the government can't completely explain something, they're automatically guilty of causing that something.

That's how I killed the dinosaurs.
 
So they're replacing all the old white guys with young brown guys? Maybe Olbermann ate some nasty burritos right before the dude went to speak. It happens.
 
[quote name='Blackout']So they're replacing all the old white guys with young brown guys? Maybe Olbermann ate some nasty burritos right before the dude went to speak. It happens.[/quote]

It was Matthews. He had a bad bowl of curry with demon slaying sauce.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']That's how I killed the dinosaurs.[/quote]

If by 'killed' you mean 'used your evil progressive movement-funded science labratory to create dinosaur fossils which you secretly buried all around the world to bolster the myth of evolution' - well, then I agree.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Now, now. If the government can't completely explain something, they're automatically guilty of causing that something.

That's how I killed the dinosaurs.[/QUOTE]

I heard it was really the Federal Reserve. Oh, and the Jews got out of the Yucatan before the asteroid hit.
 
[quote name='Survivor Charlie']So how did this become yet another thread with the paranoid delusions of the mentally unstable Truthers?

I would like to once again point out that the best resources of our government could not cover up a simple burglary of a hotel. Willing destruction of giant-sized landmarks without the truth getting out? Good fucking luck.[/QUOTE]

Have you ever thought to pull your head out of your ass and hear of conditioning? There are definitely things that happen beyond the pale which we discard as being too out there. You see being conditioned to such relatively mundane lives and news compared to Government Conspiracy you either dismiss it off hand. The ordinary is extraordinary and the extraordinary is simply impossible. This is what we're conditioned to.
Look how long it's taken for people to see the FDA is full of shit and has been in bed with Big Pharma since the 80's or before. How long do you think it took MK ULTRA to be legitimized? For people to believe that the news was legit. The hotel break in was politics, not something as big as the previous mentionings. When it's really important our government will try as much as possible to cover their ass with some level of competence. I'm referring especially to when both parties are involved.
Do you think the German govt let it be known that the bombing of the Reichstag was by them or that the press reported on it? Yes 9/11 in my opinion was a False Flag Op. It could be for a multitude of reasons. I wouldn't be surprised if part of it was to cover the money story about the trillions or billions that went missing from the Pentagon before.
edit: Oh and the clip that I saw of Jinndahl. What an idiot, douche, tool. Pick your poison. What about that speech past all this about them not being Right enough? Not by Jinndahl but at CPAC I think. What nonsense. They need to dump the Religious Right, put Ron Paul in as their front runner. Seriously the Republicans going back to a Goldwater ideology would do them tremendous help. In the process they'd grab some Gay's, Black's, more Latino's. I mean certainly higher numbers then the Religious Right has ever yielded I believe.
 
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