Chris matthews says

[quote name='Strell']At this point, I'm thinking alt account.[/QUOTE]

I think it's FoC playing a trick on us, right before his triumphant return.
 
[quote name='Strell']At this point, I'm thinking alt account.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, I'm getting a very "rumblebear" feeling from this guy. Not to say that they're one and the same, just that both characters have a similar purpose.
 
I'm curious if all this RP stuff on various boards is some kind of underground movement to bring attention to the name.
 
[quote name='nasum']I'm curious if all this RP stuff on various boards is some kind of underground movement to bring attention to the name.[/QUOTE]

Its just that Liberty is popular and has Ron Paul as a spokesmen; is kind've the Thomas Paine of our day.
Those that see what he is talking about understand that he has appeal across the board to the left and right though that means he has enemies on both sides as well his main goal is liberty for the individual and to help us rediscover what liberty is.
 
[quote name='nasum']I'm curious if all this RP stuff on various boards is some kind of underground movement to bring attention to the name.[/QUOTE]
I don't think this moron is part of any large concerted effort to bring more attention to Paul, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was participating on other nutjob boards talking about how persecuted was.

Although, I can't help but wonder about the comparative lack of intelligence and logic with turbochicken. It's the same kind of crazy expressed the same way. Not even bob and knoell are that close in ideology and the way they express it. Kinda creepy if you ask me.
 
[quote name='solid snake']Its just that Liberty is popular and has Ron Paul as a spokesmen; is kind've the Thomas Paine of our day.
Those that see what he is talking about understand that he has appeal across the board to the left and right though that means he has enemies on both sides as well his main goal is liberty for the individual and to help us rediscover what liberty is.[/QUOTE]

Thomas Paine cared about the poor.
 
[quote name='solid snake']Its just that Liberty is popular and has Ron Paul as a spokesmen; is kind've the Thomas Paine of our day.
Those that see what he is talking about understand that he has appeal across the board to the left and right though that means he has enemies on both sides as well his main goal is liberty for the individual and to help us rediscover what liberty is.[/QUOTE]
Paine supported aggressively progressive taxation, subsdized minimum living wage, and social security. You might even call him a proto-socialist. He was a revolutionary of the communist stripe and secular humanist, not some right-wing religious tight wad. If he lived today, the right would've labeled him a goddamn commie. Hell, YOU would've called him a guy with white guilt that was indoctrinated by the Black Panthers.

Paine is a very influential man, but he's the exact opposite of who you think he is. And it's even more ludicrous that you think he's similar to Paul.

Please stop eating those paint chips. It's fucking up what's left of your brains.
 
[quote name='dohdough']Paine supported aggressively progressive taxation, subsdized minimum living wage, and social security. You might even call him a proto-socialist. He was a revolutionary of the communist stripe and secular humanist, not some right-wing religious tight wad. If he lived today, the right would've labeled him a goddamn commie. Hell, YOU would've called him a guy with white guilt that was indoctrinated by the Black Panthers.

Paine is a very influential man, but he's the exact opposite of who you think he is. And it's even more ludicrous that you think he's similar to Paul.

Please stop eating those paint chips. It's fucking up what's left of your brains.[/QUOTE]

I read Paines writings i know he had many views but when it came to personal liberty and the way he inspired many is the same as what Paul is doing. Your simply being petty and trying to nit pick everything you can , you are a fail troll.
 
[quote name='camoor']Thomas Paine cared about the poor.[/QUOTE]
So dose paul, the poor should be free too... the poor are poor because of the laws. I know...
 
[quote name='solid snake']I read Paines writings i know he had many views but when it came to personal liberty and the way he inspired many is the same as what Paul is doing. Your simply being petty and trying to nit pick everything you can , you are a fail troll.[/QUOTE]

[quote name='solid snake']So dose paul, the poor should be free too... the poor are poor because of the laws. I know...[/QUOTE]
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[quote name='solid snake']I read Paines writings i know he had many views but when it came to personal liberty and the way he inspired many is the same as what Paul is doing. Your simply being petty and trying to nit pick everything you can , you are a fail troll.[/QUOTE]
The writings of Thomas Paine are not close to Paul. The closet would would probably be somewhere John Rawls' views on liberalism combined with F.A. Hayek's views. Paul is neither and his view on the poor contradicts your very narrow reading of him.
 
[quote name='cindersphere']The writings of Thomas Paine are not close to Paul. The closet would would probably be somewhere John Rawls' views on liberalism combined with F.A. Hayek's views. Paul is neither and his view on the poor contradicts your very narrow reading of him.[/QUOTE]
Thomas Paine was very much in favor of personal liberty, as is paul...
And his words inspire people in the same way common sense did.
 
[quote name='solid snake']Thomas Paine was very much in favor of personal liberty, as is paul...
And his words inspire people in the same way common sense did.[/QUOTE]
And? What besides personal liberty is Thomas Paine like. Hell I like home improvement, but that does not make me like Bob Villa.
 
You see snake, the reason I made a sarcastic comment in the other thread about freedom is because you use terms like "personal liberty" in a way that implies that there is actually somebody around who isn't in favor of personal liberty.
 
[quote name='SpazX']You see snake, the reason I made a sarcastic comment in the other thread about freedom is because you use terms like "personal liberty" in a way that implies that there is actually somebody around who isn't in favor of personal liberty.[/QUOTE]
Screw personal liberty, I am a believer in secular liberty.
 
I think no one should have personal liberty except for me. You guys can all deal with my impersonal liberty at the expense of your own personal liberty by making your personal liberty impersonal.

Suck it.
 
[quote name='SpazX']You see snake, the reason I made a sarcastic comment in the other thread about freedom is because you use terms like "personal liberty" in a way that implies that there is actually somebody around who isn't in favor of personal liberty.[/QUOTE]
That's because he thinks he's the only one that's in favor of "true personal freedom." You see, it's kinda like religion for him. He doesn't need to "know" what Paine really wrote or what Paul really stands for or how twisted his views are. For him, it's all about what he thinks and how he feels about it instead. Facts be damned.
 
[quote name='dohdough']That's because he thinks he's the only one that's in favor of "true personal freedom." You see, it's kinda like religion for him. He doesn't need to "know" what Paine really wrote or what Paul really stands for or how twisted his views are. For him, it's all about what he thinks and how he feels about it instead. Facts be damned.[/QUOTE]


What is it you think Paul really stands for then?
 
[quote name='solid snake']What is it you think Paul really stands for then?[/QUOTE]
I don't need imagine what he stands for and I've pretty much summed it up over 3+ threads including the ones that you've spammed us with. fucking do some reading.
 
[quote name='dohdough']I don't need imagine what he stands for and I've pretty much summed it up over 3+ threads including the ones that you've spammed us with. fucking do some reading.[/QUOTE]

than there is no backing to what you are trying to argument if you care not to know.
 
I don't need (to) imagine what he stands for (which you've been doing and because it's pretty much outlined everywhere) and I've pretty much summed it up over 3+ threads including the ones that you've spammed us with.
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ing do some reading.
 
Both made valid points. Where Matthews and many others get Paul is on civil rights. With all the cases of employment discrimination going on still today, not having these laws would create zero accountability. The market does not and never has created a system of accountability from buyers. The market is always manipulated by those that have the most power(money).

People who don't think there would be "white only" establishments are living in a fantasy (a "free market fantasy" as Chomsky says). A minority family is taking a road trip and stop for gas and food in the middle of east bumblefuck, Missouri. The clerk says "we don't serve your kind." In this climate of fear, you think that Muslims, Latinos, or gays could be refused??!?!? They in fact have been.

Here's the reality check for libertarian utopians...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jnfg9i4IsE
 
[quote name='cindersphere']And? What besides personal liberty is Thomas Paine like. Hell I like home improvement, but that does not make me like Bob Villa.[/QUOTE]

More like Christopher Lowell?
 
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