CoD: Modern Warfare 2 - Gen. Discussion & Info-New Map Pack out June 3 (1200MSP)

If you're looking for a less frustrating experience play Team Deathmatch Express. I started playing a little after a two month hiatus and haven't run into many issues. I was actually surprised that I was still able to play as well as I was. I decided I wanted to try to get two EMPs and it only took me a few hours to do so.
 
On PC, all of the cheaters played FFA or Ground War. Sometimes Team Death Match. If you avoided those, you were golden, it seemed. I pretty much never ran into cheaters (despite hearing people complain about them constantly on the forums).

EX: Try Merc Team Deathmatch instead of TDM, or Third Person Team Tactical! (
 
Infinity Ward and Activision are to blame somewhat, but I blame the cheaters who feel the need to hack the game to win. To win at a video game!?!? Yes, just because you have the Nuke emblem and the 10th prestige title, went 25-0 and your friend on the other team went 0-25, you like to try to charge people for 10th prestige lobbies, and you are #1 on the leaderboards with 1000000 kills and 0 deaths you win. You win at life.

Who actually feels the need to do all that? They must have soooo much time on their hands that they get bored.
 
I do t care about most cheaters. At first I was intimidated by 10th 70s. Then I figured out most of them cheated and actually suck at the game. Most people with modded controllers suck too and think it will make them better. Those don't bother me either.

What I hate are the lazy fucking spawn campers. That's a sure fire boner killer in Domination. I'll dashboard anytime someone pulls this shit tactic out and hope I'm the host so it ends the game.
 
[quote name='Ziv']I do t care about most cheaters. At first I was intimidated by 10th 70s. Then I figured out most of them cheated and actually suck at the game. Most people with modded controllers suck too and think it will make them better. Those don't bother me either.

What I hate are the lazy fucking spawn campers. That's a sure fire boner killer in Domination. I'll dashboard anytime someone pulls this shit tactic out and hope I'm the host so it ends the game.[/QUOTE]

Do you know how to play Domination? You're not one of those guys who goes and caps the third flag are you?
 
I don't go for it until our team is about to win (less than 10 pts away). But I don't trap the other team at their spawn. That's boring. It was on Trailer Park, which I like for FFA, but it's really tight for Domination. The team I play with (we're not teh proz, or a clan) just plays for fun. Some people take this way to seriously. We still win most of the time.
 
I'm just sayin'.

The definition of Domination is spawn trap. Get two flags and close in as close as you can without flipping the spawns.
 
[quote name='Trakan']I'm just sayin'.

The definition of Domination is spawn trap. Get two flags and close in as close as you can without flipping the spawns.[/QUOTE]

Exactly... I absolutely love playing Domination and doing this to a team only to have them complain afterwards that we were camping... No, we were playing the game mode and you just happened to suck.
 
Black Ops is likely gonna go the same way
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I'm hoping it doesn't because WORLD AT WAR still plays pretty well online. In fact, I went back to it after getting frustrated with MW2's MP, and was surprised at how well it holds up, particularly after seeing what MW2 turned into. The maps are solid, the movement feels a bit smoother...I know Treyarch takes a lot of crap at times, lately unwarranted IMO, but WAW was pretty cool and if anything its MP has held up its end of the bargain better than IW's did.
 
[quote name='LinkinPrime']Did they announce MW2 GOTY edition yet? The packaging on next weeks Best Buy ad looks different and has a $59.99 price tag:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/movie-tv-deals/150132-best-buy-media-prices-august-22-28-2010-a.html[/QUOTE]

Hm, I'd be surprised if they already put out another version of the game (no GOTY has been announced) and since no GOTY has been announced I doubt it is anything special.

Including that, if it were a GOTY version it would probably have the map packs on the disc which I doubt.

Nonetheless I agree it does look different and I can't read what it says at the top.
 
It's no different. They just updated the boxart an the quotes on the back of the box. I saw it at Gamestop about a month ago. No free maps or any bonus of any kind.
 
Just popped this in after a long break...crazy they haven't nerfed the OMA noob toob combo yet. Guy went 35 and 3 protecting the flag in CTF. As smooth as this game runs..the glitches have ruined for me.
 
I would like some advice guys about the 2 map packs. I'm getting back into MW2 soon and would like to purchase 1 of the map packs. I have about 2400 microsoft points to spend. My 3 choices that I'm looking at are:

1.) I buy the stimulus map pack and monday night combat

2.) I buy the resurgence map pack and monday night combat

3.) I buy both map packs and skip monday night combat(unlikely but still a possibility)

so I would like your guys opinion on which is the better map pack 1 or 2? This would really help me out, cause I'm kinda stuck on what to do.
 
[quote name='JohnBoy1280']I would like some advice guys about the 2 map packs. I'm getting back into MW2 soon and would like to purchase 1 of the map packs. I have about 2400 microsoft points to spend. My 3 choices that I'm looking at are:

1.) I buy the stimulus map pack and monday night combat

2.) I buy the resurgence map pack and monday night combat

3.) I buy both map packs and skip monday night combat(unlikely but still a possibility)

so I would like your guys opinion on which is the better map pack 1 or 2? This would really help me out, cause I'm kinda stuck on what to do.[/QUOTE]

If your not getting Black Ops, then probably go w/ option 2 b/c you get the newer maps (IMO are better than stimulus) and you would be getting a new game in MNC. But if you are getting Black Ops,i'd say screw the maps and get MNC.
 
[quote name='nycmetsfan']If your not getting Black Ops, then probably go w/ option 2 b/c you get the newer maps (IMO are better than stimulus) and you would be getting a new game in MNC. But if you are getting Black Ops,i'd say screw the maps and get MNC.[/QUOTE]
Awesome thanks man, yeah I wanted to know if the resurgence map pack was better. I might be getting black ops, but probably not right away, so this plus monday night combat should tide me over.
 
Ugh I broke down and bought the two map packs finally. My friends and I have gotten back into MW2 heavily and every time we meet a glitcher or cheater, we leave and report immediately. The new maps are good for the most part. They certainly add a different type of play style than the original maps.

However, a friend and I ran into a very, very weird moment that maybe someone can explain to me. We were playing on Carnival and there were two guys who were obviously using modded controllers. They both used one of the sniper rifles (can't remember which one but it was a semi auto) with silencers. On one of my kill cams, the guy was shooting the sniper rifle like it was a damn full auto with barely any recoil. Not only that, but they called in about 4 harriers, a chopper gunner, a pave low, and an airstrike within 3 minutes. Mind you, this is all in a public TDM Express game. Before the game ended, we experienced extreme lag and then my game backed out to the main login screen with an error that said something about the client service was running full or something. As a network guy, I figured it was a lag switch.

BUT...my friend, who was in a private chat with me was like, "WTF dude?? What just happened?" I asked what he was talking about and he said that he was in a private match all of sudden with two guys he has never played with and didn't do anything. He invited me into the room and as soon as I showed up, both guys left immediately. Was this a massive hack or a glitch or something? I've never seen something like that happen before...
 
I need to vent...

I just totally raged quit on a game and here's why:

While playing on a team that had guys literally running the complete opposite way of where the enemy was, I came across a stand off with a guy. We've all been there. The guy shoots you, you get into cover, and now it's a game of patience or chicken. He was hiding behind the corner of a building and I was hiding behind some concrete half wall. I threw 2 stun grenades and got huge hit markers so I know I got him dead on. I threw my frag grenade and only got a hit marker, no death. Ok. So I run towards his wall since he's not coming out to get me. I see his head from an arm's length away and fire my silenced UMP into his dome. 2 hit markers and then, boom, I'm dead. The hell? A guy came from behind me and took me out. Fine. But here's why I'm pissed. I was 0-6 with 3 assists. I hit this guy with 2 stun grenades, a frag grenade, and 2 shots from close range to the head and he's alive? Are you kidding me here? Why is this game SO unbalanced? Why is it that in some games it takes me a whole clip to kill someone, but when I don't play for a week, it only takes a few shots with the same layout? It doesn't make sense.

IW royally fucked this game. It fucked this game 2 ways from Sunday and no one cares. No one seems to be asking why it seems so unbalanced. It's as if one team already has the advantage before the game begins. At this point, it feels like a collective and collaborative fuck up from the idiots at IW. At least COD4 was somewhat balanced save for some of the guns. However, we all knew what guns were overpowered and just went along with it. I bought the maps to try and bring a bit more variety and fun to the game, but screw it. What a garbage game. I can't wait for COD: Black Ops because it's not from IW. I know Activision doesn't have the best track record, but they could poop in every box, charge double the price, and spam my email box with gay porn and the experience would still be better than the ripe dog turd that is MW2.

End rant.
 
^Eh question were you using a ump with stopping power, cause that thing drops peeps with only a few shots.

anyway just wanted to give ya a piece of advice, if things aren't going your way dont push it, quit the room and find another, or just put another game in. That helped me through many moments of frustration. I'm getting back into Modern Warfare 2 as well, so i'll hook you up with a f/r when I get the game this or next week.
 
[quote name='JohnBoy1280']^Eh question were you using a ump with stopping power, cause that thing drops peeps with only a few shots.

anyway just wanted to give ya a piece of advice, if things aren't going your way dont push it, quit the room and find another, or just put another game in. That helped me through many moments of frustration. I'm getting back into Modern Warfare 2 as well, so i'll hook you up with a f/r when I get the game this or next week.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I sure was. Sleight of Hand, Stopping Power, Commando Pro with Ump silenced, Raffika (spelling?) silenced, 2 stun grenades, and 1 frag grenade is the layout I was using at the time. Usually the UMP drops people like no other, like you said, but apparently I got the nerf edition tonight.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not that great at the game. I'm more than willing to admit that. I don't pretend to be good and I don't really try to be good. I play just to hang out with friends and relax. I normally go 1:1 ratio with same games doing better and some not so much lol. However, I know when I've pumped enough lead into a guy to pull up that +100 on my screen. And when it takes almost an entire clip (short round bursts for accuracy) with hit markers and the guy still doesn't go down, something is really wrong. Especially when that same guy hits me a few times and I lose the shoot out.

Of course send me a FR! My friends and I play just about every night except for weekends. Thanks!
 
[quote name='Trakan']Semtex >>>>> Frag[/QUOTE]

Really? Why is that? Maybe I'll change to Semtex if that's the case.

[quote name='kklems']It is also possible there was more than one guy behind that wall.[/QUOTE]

I would think so too, but that wasn't the case. Unless the other guy didn't shoot at all and/or had cold blooded on with the UAV above.

This isn't the first time something like this has happened either. I have actually pumped nearly an entire clip into someone only to have them shoot me a few times and I die. I verify all of this on the kill cam by the way. A majority of the time, it's my stupid ass who isn't shooting straight or the guy was shooting me before I shot him and I didn't know due to lag.

However, with my experience last night, I also verified it on the kill cam as well. I saw and heard my guy take two shots before he shot me in the back. I know for a fact that I got hit markers on the stun grenades and frag grenade. I also know I got two hit markers with two shots to the head and the guy was still alive. Makes no sense.
 
Semtex have the chance to stick them, they seem to have a little bit more damage dealt to them too. The only time I use frags is if it is a map I can get a grenade far at the start to get a kill (Semtex blow up a little sooner than the frags IMO). I can't even count the times I have had the same thing happen to me that has happened to you though, there is some ridiculous things that happen due to lag which keeps me away from playing the game as much as I normally would.
 
Semtex does twice as much damage but you can't cook it and it doesn't roll. That doesn't matter, it's way better. Use the semtex.

You can also cancel the semtex while holding RB by pushing Y. You can't do that with the frag.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']Semtex have the chance to stick them, they seem to have a little bit more damage dealt to them too. The only time I use frags is if it is a map I can get a grenade far at the start to get a kill (Semtex blow up a little sooner than the frags IMO). I can't even count the times I have had the same thing happen to me that has happened to you though, there is some ridiculous things that happen due to lag which keeps me away from playing the game as much as I normally would.[/QUOTE]

Glad I'm not the only one! I feel like a crazy person when I tell my friends what happened. They usually give me shit about being bad the game and we all laugh, but still. I know I had this guy dead to rights and it sucks not being able to get the points due to the game's balancing issues.

[quote name='Trakan']Semtex does twice as much damage but you can't cook it and it doesn't roll. That doesn't matter, it's way better. Use the semtex.

You can also cancel the semtex while holding RB by pushing Y. You can't do that with the frag.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know any of that actually. I will change to the Semtex asap lol.
 
^^^ Definitely agree with Trakan here (take that surprised look of your face Trak). Semtex is a lot better. If you can hit the broad side of a barn you will more than likely get the kill 9/10 time.

In addition to the pro of being able to cancel out the Semtex like Trak said I have seen a few times where if you are getting ready to throw one and get shot it may act like a martyrdom grenade and is a lot more effective since the fuse seems to be shorter. Every once in a awhile you might even get a stick if you are getting ready to throw one and get knifed. If the person runs through you it may drop and stick to their arm, leg, chest, etc. I have actually had this happen to me and it is always funny and shitty at the same time.
 
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[quote name='mvp828']^^^ Definitely agree with Trakan here (take that surprised look of your face Trak).[/QUOTE]

Nah, we're cool. We misunderstood each other before.
 
[quote name='Trakan']Nah, we're cool. We misunderstood each other before.[/QUOTE]

I know... I was just messing around with you.

[quote name='Pck21']Well you guys were right. The sextex helps out big time and I didn't run into any glitchers tonight to my surprise.[/QUOTE]

Yea it really does make a difference.

P.S. I just realized what your GamerTag is... That is absolutely great.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']Anyone else run into cheaters that can shoot multiple javelins out of the ground? I saw that yesterday for the first time.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you were in a modded lobby. Did you get invited by a friend or something?

[youtube]Id6-Pw5n5jU[/youtube]
 
[quote name='Ronzilla']Yeah you were in a modded lobby. Did you get invited by a friend or something?

[youtube]Id6-Pw5n5jU[/youtube][/QUOTE]


No, I just went to "find match". It was Team Death Match. I actually recorded what I could with my cell phone so I got the gamertag of the fool that was doing this. I also reported him.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']No, I just went to "find match". It was Team Death Match. I actually recorded what I could with my cell phone so I got the gamertag of the fool that was doing this. I also reported him.[/QUOTE]

Hmm. Did your stats get affected or reset? One of my friends was playing a random TDM that was modded and it ended up resetting his stats back to zero :bomb:.
He was PISSED to say the least. Hopefully it didn't effect any of your unlocks or stats.
 
[quote name='Ronzilla']Hmm. Did your stats get affected or reset? One of my friends was playing a random TDM that was modded and it ended up resetting his stats back to zero :bomb:.
He was PISSED to say the least. Hopefully it didn't effect any of your unlocks or stats.[/QUOTE]

that happened to a friend of mine as well (and 5 of his friends as well, one of them doesnt play anymore because of that), well it didnt reset his lvl. or prestige (56 lvl. 6th prestige at the time... or something like that) he also still had all his guns, just no attachments. he was mad he lost all his titles and what-not. so glad i wasnt in that game.
 
[quote name='Ronzilla']Hmm. Did your stats get affected or reset? One of my friends was playing a random TDM that was modded and it ended up resetting his stats back to zero :bomb:.
He was PISSED to say the least. Hopefully it didn't effect any of your unlocks or stats.[/QUOTE]

I didn't see any change this morning. I'll check again though.

You know, IW/Activision could have remedied this by having a record function like Halo 3. I don't remember seeing anywhere near the amount of shenanigans on Halo 3 as I do MW2.
 
[quote name='GuilewasNK']I didn't see any change this morning. I'll check again though.

You know, IW/Activision could have remedied this by having a record function like Halo 3. I don't remember seeing anywhere near the amount of shenanigans on Halo 3 as I do MW2.[/QUOTE]

Again... This doesn't have as much to do with the publisher as it does the system. Jtag hack didn't really surface until Sept. - Oct. 09 and hackers didn't really utilize its full abilities until late Nov. - Dec. 09. So the reason you don't see that stuff in Halo is for a few reasons...

1) Halo's updating system doesn't leave a lot to be tinkered with. IW's does because they wanted to be able to incorporate on the fly changes in the system and playlist.

2) Hackers want the glory... Glory in hacking Halo isn't nearly as rewarding as doing it to CoD since more gamers play MW2 over Halo.

3) You have to blame Microsoft for a big portion of these hacks seeing as they left the system open to the Jtag hack and still haven't made that big of efforts towards shutting it down. There aren't nearly as many glitches, hacks, etc on the PS3 version of the game... So to point the finger at IW and Activision isn't very fair. Also, since Microsoft really has no reason to help out hacks in CoD why should they. They have an interest as to how Halo does, and so they are probably a lot more focused on preventing that type of stuff in the Halo games.
 
[quote name='mvp828']Again... This doesn't have as much to do with the publisher as it does the system. Jtag hack didn't really surface until Sept. - Oct. 09 and hackers didn't really utilize its full abilities until late Nov. - Dec. 09. So the reason you don't see that stuff in Halo is for a few reasons...

1) Halo's updating system doesn't leave a lot to be tinkered with. IW's does because they wanted to be able to incorporate on the fly changes in the system and playlist.

2) Hackers want the glory... Glory in hacking Halo isn't nearly as rewarding as doing it to CoD since more gamers play MW2 over Halo.

3) You have to blame Microsoft for a big portion of these hacks seeing as they left the system open to the Jtag hack and still haven't made that big of efforts towards shutting it down. There aren't nearly as many glitches, hacks, etc on the PS3 version of the game... So to point the finger at IW and Activision isn't very fair. Also, since Microsoft really has no reason to help out hacks in CoD why should they. They have an interest as to how Halo does, and so they are probably a lot more focused on preventing that type of stuff in the Halo games.[/QUOTE]

You are wrong on point 3 there mvp. All the stuff you see from Jtags on the 360 can be done on the PS3 as well without even modding the system. Microsoft bans Jtag'd 360's within 4-5 hours of them popping online (I know someone that has one), he has to pay money for something that unbans it for a few hours at a time which is the reason why there are so many 10th prestige lobby messages, it is how they can make their money back on unbanning it. I think you can even unban a gamertag with the Jtag, but I am not sure since I don't have one, so even if the system and gamertag gets banned they can just take both bans off.
 
[quote name='SlimJim0725']You are wrong on point 3 there mvp. All the stuff you see from Jtags on the 360 can be done on the PS3 as well without even modding the system. Microsoft bans Jtag'd 360's within 4-5 hours of them popping online (I know someone that has one), he has to pay money for something that unbans it for a few hours at a time which is the reason why there are so many 10th prestige lobby messages, it is how they can make their money back on unbanning it. I think you can even unban a gamertag with the Jtag, but I am not sure since I don't have one, so even if the system and gamertag gets banned they can just take both bans off.[/QUOTE]

Some of the hacks have been on both systems... But a majority of 360 ones have been exclusive, or barely existent on the PS3.

As for banning the Jtags, it is completely random. I know a few different people that have them, and one has had his since Dec. and has yet to be banned. Another one was banned about a week after and the third was banned about a month after.

As for unbanning the system, all the person needs is a clean system and they just have to extract the serial encryption from the good system and inject it into the banned one.

You cannot unban a Gamertag though. You can remove the flags that are put on a GT from a banned system so that you can use it on a clean one, but that is all. Once a GT is banned there isn't anything you can do.
 
the unbanning part you all are talking about is called a key vault. which in case, it just puts a new console id and such to let it go online and be normal again instead of banned and yeah, the game is fun until you run into cheaters. aimbots, wall hacks, glitchers, modders, etc. are still a regular on mw2 and alot of people dropped the ball on this plus they have only put out 2 map packs to whereas treyarch put out 3 map packs and all with zombie modes in them too.
 
[quote name='intoxicated662']the unbanning part you all are talking about is called a key vault. which in case, it just puts a new console id and such to let it go online and be normal again instead of banned and yeah, the game is fun until you run into cheaters. aimbots, wall hacks, glitchers, modders, etc. are still a regular on mw2 and alot of people dropped the ball on this plus they have only put out 2 map packs to whereas treyarch put out 3 map packs and all with zombie modes in them too.[/QUOTE]


Let's not forget that while Treyarch put out 3 map packs the game still has the glitch where you have to download them over and over again.
 
I'm currently playing MW2 with the intention of completing the Hijacker III secret challenge (Steal 200 enemy care packages) and I've run into some info I need clarification on. I'm already clear on which care packages are eligible, but I'm confused as to what level I should be at. I know your supposed to be at lvl 61 to get steals credited, but I recently read that you should also be at least at 1st prestige. I'm currently on my original playthrough at lvl 70 and have never prestiged in the game because I know that the counter for the steals resets if you prestige. Thanks to anyone who has tackled this challenge that can clarify this for me.

*Note: I'm not looking to complete this via modded lobbies, so "Thanks, but no thanks" in advance.
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']Mw2?[/QUOTE]

LOL, yes, MW2. I'll move to Black Ops in time, but MW2 is where I'm at for the time being. Help if you can. Thanks.
 
I can't... I played through the single player mode and then got to level 70 twice.. then I stopped playing. I'm sure it's on the MW2 wiki though. Have you checked there?
 
[quote name='PhrostByte']I can't... I played through the single player mode and then got to level 70 twice.. then I stopped playing. I'm sure it's on the MW2 wiki though. Have you checked there?[/QUOTE]

That's where I initially looked, but there was no mention of what level is required. I read about that part somewhere else, hence the confusion.

Funny thing, I've never played through the single player mode in the year I've owned the game. Only completed Spec Ops and reached lvl 70 on my original multiplayer run. Guess I should try it some time.
 
anyone played this recently? is the community "better" now? I hear the PS3 version is all hell due to the security problems so maybe glitchers switched over (or in Black Ops)

I usually go solo and jump into matches mid match, probably why never got high killstreak or nuke but now might have more fun since not as many people playing.
 
I'm actually scared to go play this again, I cherish my stats and the 21 or so days I've logged into MW2, along with all of those titles I've gotten, mostly because it's all legitimate and I've never logged that much time into a video game before.
 
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