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It seems like everyone on this board is going crazy over this Wii system. Too me it is over priced for what it's going to produce. Maybe I am missing something that you all could help me out on. First there is no High Definition support, secondly it has about the same specs as an old xbox. I also think that after awhile the remote thing will get old in a hurry. Who know why Iam not too excited about this thing. Any ways I am putting up a new sealed copy of Metroid Prime(PC)for the gamecube for why I should buy one at launch. I will only ship to the states and Canada so if you live else where you kinda out of luck. Please dont turn this contest into a flame war. Thanks

***Contest is OVER!!!! MSI MAGUS Wins
 
[quote name='dmes65']It seems like everyone on this board is going crazy over this Wii system. Too me it is over priced for what it's going to produce. Maybe I am missing something that you all could help me out on. First there is no High Definition support, secondly it has about the same specs as an old xbox. I also think that after awhile the remote thing will get old in a hurry. Who know why Iam not too excited about this thing. Any ways I am putting up a new sealed copy of Metroid Prime(PC)for the gamecube for why I should buy one at launch. I will only ship to the states and Canada so if you live else where you kinda out of luck. Please dont turn this contest into a flame war. Thanks[/quote]

Just because the graphics aren't the best or amazing, doesn't mean it's bad. Tons of people still play and buy Snes games and stuff, and they're still fun. Do you have a handheld? If you do, have you ever played while sitting on the couch or somewhere where you AREN'T in line or in the car? If you do that, it's because the games are fun, even though the graphics aren't as good. I know I play DS while on the couch a lot. Sorry if that hasn't made much sense, but what I'm trying to say, is lots of people still play handhelds at home when they could easily play something with way better graphics, which means you play the games for how fun they are, not how they look. I don't want to convince you to buy one, I just want to tell you to give it a chance when the games come out, look at reviews, play demo stations at EB or somewhere and if you like the games, go for it.

/end wall of text.
 
Overall, the game experience you get on a Wii will greatly differ than of that you'll get on a 360 or a PS3. Not saying the PS3 and 360 are bad per say, but if you want a console that has huge potential to give people a different way to play games (and previews are showing that it will) if they are either tired of the old way of playing, want another way, or are going to try for the first time.
 
no need of the prize for me.

I think the Wii is a wait and see; let's wait for the store demos, and see what Big N cooks up.

If the Zelda: Collector's Edition promo disc was to test the waters for the Wii, then we've got something good coming along.

Either way, consumers win (that's you and me).
 
Two easy reasons:

1. Nintendo exclusive franchises: Super Smash Bros Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, better version of Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess, and on and on.

2. Virtual console will let you download any games for nostalgia or games you missed along the way. Nintendo has to make this cheap, though, to be cool, but I can think of quite a few games I would want. I love the new Paper Mario games, and I want to play Super Mario RPG for SNES which started it all. There are other franchises that might be fun for some people to see where they started, or play ones that haven't had a sequel in awhile if at all (like Solomon's Key and Kid Icarus).

I wouldn't worry about the controller getting old and lack of hi-def. Smart companies will give you a choice (and drop support for it if it becomes tedious), and the GC graphics are already pretty good, so a souped-up GC will be good enough for fun games.
 
OMG NO HIGH DEF? IT MUST SUCK!

Wii is overpriced for what it does? Reality check please.

Wii = $250 - Does all over previous posts

360 = $400 if you aren't a chump - Halo 3 is about it for me, oh god do I want it.

PS3 = $600 - Waffle iron and MGS4?
 
Basically..

Everyone thought the touch screen thing was gonna get old after a while. Myself included. Nobody expected it to be more than a gimmick.

Nintendo is just a magical company. The Wii remote seems like the same thing - a gimmick - but their runaway success with the DS instills a sense of faith in a Nintendo that's been faltering a little bit since the N64 days.. I just feel like they did so well with the DS that it's nearly gauranteed that they're gonna rock the Wii.

Plus, WarioWare: Twisted! was awesome.
 
Think of it like this:

-Xbox Live type capabilites, only family friendly (which is the worst part about it... ie, friend code exchanging) but everything is totally free of charge.

-Cheapest way to go semi-next gen.

-It already has a better game download library than what Xbox Live Arcade is offering. Plus backwards compatability fo Gamecube games incase there were some GC games you wanted to play, but you never owned the system like me.
Also note that Nintendo is producing controlers of their old systems (N64 controller, NES contoller, etc.) that can be used with the Wii to play games.

-If you've played the DS for a while and liked it for its innovative gameplay interaction, same for the Wii then.

-Customized personal controller that system will recognize who is playing based on what controlelrs are being used.

-SD cards are probably the cheapest form of portable memory and the Wii uses them. They are superbly cheap with large amounts of capacity.

-Wii games will most likely be the cheapest titles in about the year alongside portable games.

-Game demos can be downloaded free of charge to the Wii as well as your DS for DS Demos. Also note, the DS is already being planned as an extension for controlling certain Wii games.

-It's small and will probably fit almost anywhere you put it.

-Multiple colors to choose, so you can distinctly seperate it from your 360/PS3/PS2 or make it look exactly alike.

-Best first party game support for any system

-Some virtual Console games won't only be old games, but new games built based off old system hardware (ie, maybe a new RPG on the Genesis).

-Opera web browser, though it's really not necissary

-In about a month (september Tokyo game show) or sooner you'll get the whole lowdown on why a Wii is good or bad for your tastes. Don't decide now really until you really know what Nintendo is trying to do. E3 only showed what they can do and have in store for us in terms of games, but nothing really console systems sofware/OS related.
 
Well, looking at your XBL gamertag info, your last 5 games played are all older arcade games. Clearly you're more interested in great gameplay than in Hi-Def goodness. If your gamertag info is to be believed, I think you'd be a good match with what the Wii has lined up.
 
Because Nintendo Fanboys are hot ;)
If I win the game, then I'll recommend you keep it and play it yourself on your brand-spankin new Wii.
 
Think about this: You wouldn't have posted this topic if you weren't already interested in the Wii. You're even giving away a game just for someone to say the right combination of words. If I were to believe anything right now, it's that you want the Wii, and you're looking for some support on your decision to buy it. You want to want it, or else you wouldn't have done this contest. :)
 
[quote name='Jek Porkins']Well, looking at your XBL gamertag info, your last 5 games played are all older arcade games. Clearly you're more interested in great gameplay than in Hi-Def goodness. If your gamertag info is to be believed, I think you'd be a good match with what the Wii has lined up.[/QUOTE]
Yes I do love the old games and I own every piece of Nintendo hardware out there. The old games are fun for me for about 20 mins. I just bought a $2000 tv today and cant believe the wii wont support hd. It's like there taking a step back on this one, the cube had hd so why cant this one have it. As far as the old games, there nice but I believe there counting on them way to much to sell me a next gen console. As far as the remote there even saying to use a gamecube controller for smash bros. This thread should get a little more lively in the next few days.
 
Whats the point of this thread? If you dont want one, dont buy one. How are people providing you with facts that you probably already know going to convenice you to purchase something that you don't want in the first place.
 
[quote name='RandyTsai']Whats the point of this thread? If you dont want one, dont buy one. How are people providing you with facts that you probably already know going to convenice you to purchase something that you don't want in the first place.[/QUOTE]
Though it would be fun to run a contest and find out why everyone is so interested in this system! Everyone has there reason for buying whichever system they want. You never know I might want one but need some info. Dude it's just for fun.
 
[quote name='chodax']IF you add 60 to the end of the title. It ryhmes with 360! What could be a better reason to get it?[/QUOTE]


any word with 60 added to it can ryhme with 360. >_
 
[quote name='dmes65']It's like there taking a step back on this one, the cube had hd so why cant this one have it. [/QUOTE]

The cube did not have HD. It had ED (480p) and the Wii supports that too. HD is 720p or higher.
 
You SHOULDN'T buy one at launch. There will be much better stuff to play on the 360 so just put your money towards that and wait for a deal on a Wii after the game list grows. :D
 
Wii + 4 games (poss. 5 if Wii sports is included) = $450

Xbox 360 + 1 game (maybe 2 with that PGR bunddle) =$450

PS3 - a quarter of the system = $450

Choice is obvious for me. Truly innovative gameplay at a much cheaper price, or same old same old (look at the current games and how they play) at a much higher price.
 
[quote name='dmes65']Too me it is over priced for what it's going to produce. Maybe I am missing something that you all could help me out on. [/QUOTE]

What you're missing is that it will be priced accordingly, or so Nintendo said. The only words of wisdom Nintendo gave with regard to the price is "lower than $250".

Just because Nintendo isn't willing to lose money on the hardware does not mean that it is overpriced.

[quote name='dmes65']secondly it has about the same specs as an old xbox.[/QUOTE]

No official specs were released. Sure, it won't be better than the PS3, but they aren't supposed to be.

What you really need to do is look at Nintendo's offering for what it is, not for what it isn't.
 
Well lets see..

360-Horrible backward compatibility, Not a huge library by the time Wii comes out.

Wii- Backward compatible with gamecube games and virtual console. This means that at launch it will have the entire gamecube library AND games from the previous nintendo systems PLUS the innovative games for the Wii. Its Going to have one of the biggest libraries of any console the day it comes out. Just imagine when its been out for a while...

PS3- Way too expensive. You probably wont even be able to find one for atleast 6 months to a year unless you have some crazy connections at like walmart or something.
 
It's quite simple really.

LIGHTSABERS

SUre the game hasn't been announced yet BUT that's like Kutagari not stealing the lunch money off a seven year old OR Peter Moore not using Lemon Pledge for that shiny head look.

Imagine finally being able to actually use a lightsaber........ think of all the dead Jawas........... so sweet.

Now if you are not a big Star Wars fan.....mmmm well other thing that havent' been mentioned are....

Heroes- Sweet Suda 51 will make me hate and love video games all over again. Plus you can still play Killer 7 on the Wii

Miyamoto- Seriously this guy is..... a living legend and if he had a daughter my age.......you bet I'd try to marry her.

Full Ubisoft Support- well not officially but every day we hear about Ubisoft annoucing more and more games. Far Cry, Red Steel, Raymond and four other games. I'm sure Prince of Persia, Splinter Cell and I HOPE the sequel to Beyond Good and Evil will surface on the Wii.

The best machine for porn- Now Nintendo probably wont do it but the possibility is there. It's perfect for us perverts....... it'll make the Hot Coffee scandal look like squirrel ran over by a car.

7 Game machines in one- SURE you think it's overpriced, what with Sony and Microsoft taking hundreds of dollars in losses on each console.......but you are getting 7 CONSOLES! (Wii, Gamecube, N64, SNES, NES, Genesis, TurboGraphix) ALL IN ONE. It'd be really expensive to buy all of these machines.

RTS, FPS Heaven- let's face it these two genres could be perfect on the Wii........ this machine was made for games like Starcraft 2 and Half Life 3...... let's face it........ this is their true home away from the PC. But since those will take forever to come out......... (if they do)....... think of all glorious original games that will come to existance..........pretty

Peace of Mind- The Wii will be the least likely to give you hardware troubles.

I could go on forever but I'm going to leave you with one last idea

In an industry of big business, shallow graphics, forced convergence and uninspired sequels, Nintendo represents a testament to a new future that combines both the simpleness and beauty of the past with a bold and somewhat dangerous direction of a new world.

The Wii will be fun and gaming will never be the same again.
 
Four reasons (and price ain't one of them):

1. Console exclusives now will be just important in terms of the back catalogue as new releases. While the Playstation has some great games, most of those great games were made by other companies. With Konami's recent announcement to port Castlevania: Symphony of the Night to Xbox Live, that tosses all of the "this game was only on Playstation therefore it'll be only a PS3 download" to the wind. The only games that will be 100% guaranteed to remain exclusive are first party games. While Microsoft has the support of indy developers and Sony has the support of it's catalogue of PS1 games (which may or may not remain exclusive), Nintendo has the full support of its character library. Coupled with what has to be a very close relationship with Sega and Hudson and that gives Nintendo a few exclusives from them. With this news, and the news that Nintendo may be bundling in downloads with the latest generation games (Super Mario Galaxy may come with Super Mario Brothers, etc) the Nintendo Wii will be the best system to play your old games on, period.

2. Arguably the best 3rd party developer of the last five years, Ubi Soft, shit a brick when seeing and playing with the Wii. When I see the maker of the Splinter Cell games, Prince of Persia, Farcry, Rayman, and a host of other great titles pledging 7 games at launch, that leads me to believe this system is something that has developers excited about. Considering it'll be much cheaper to develop games for the Wii then any other platform, developers can produce better games quicker for this system then ever before.

3. What great games did the PS2 launch with? Are you still playing anything from the 360 launch? How about I ask a different question. How many hours did you log on Super Mario World, Super Mario 64, Duck Hunt, Wave Race, Donkey Kong, Hogan's Alley, Kung Fu, Ice Climber, Mach Rider, Excitebike, Clu Clu Land, 10 Yard Fight, F-Zero, Pilotwings, Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader, and Super Monkey Ball? All of those games were Nintendo launch titles. The simple fact of the matter is that Nintendo Launch titles hold up incredibly well especially considering how poorly most systems launch titles do.

4. Let's face facts. Nintendo hardware doesn't typically have that many problems at launch unlike the flaming XBox 360 and the almost inevitable problems of the PS3. Nintendo has made one single flub in launch with the DS Lite cracking and they fix that for free. What everyone is concerned about is whether or not the Wii will get a redesign two years down the road. The simple answer is no, the Wii will not get upgraded. Even though Nintendo is notorious about selling different generations of systems on the handhelds, there has never been a significant redesign of their home consoles that has been anything but cosmetic. For 200, you're getting a complete system that you can pop a game into and play and enjoy. People who will be waiting for a Wii re-design will be waiting for quite some time because it isn't happening.

Coupled with the price, the launch games, the Cube backwards compatability, and all of the other points made about the Wii, you should get one at launch.
 
Basically, put aside the graphics concern, cause yes, the graphics won't be a big improvement compared to the likes of the 360 and PS3. But anyway, Wii will have great games, and if you can't afford them, just buy some SNES, N64 or any old game for a good 5-10 bucks. Don't like the Wii games, turn to the GC again and buy those since majority are 20 bucks or less these days. If you don't like the Wiimote, you can always turn to your GC controller. Basically, this is one of the first systems where if you don't like change, then go back to the GC style of things without HAVING to get a Gamecube again. The games will be there, I mean we have Zelda, Mario, SSBB, Red Steel, Call of Duty 3, Marvel Ultimate Alliance and alot more. With cheap publishing costs, we'll definitely see alot of games for the Wii in the future. I mean Hideo Kojima showed alot of interest in the Wii so you never know what he might bring to the table. Get a Wii, and you won't talk about how mediocre the graphics are, you'll be talking about how great everything else is.
 
Pros:

1. It's cheaper then everything else.

2. It should have some nice games made for it.

3. The controller will add immersion into the games.

4. It should be the best console ever for multiplayer local games... eg 4 ppl playing smash brothers while flinging controllers around.

5. The supposed online thing for ppl like me who didn't buy a 64 or a gamecube.

Cons:

1. Controller is for the non super lazy. I don't see myself being able to play it a 4 in the morning while kicked back in bed. Too much arm flinging.

2. Lesser Graphical quality.

I think the pro's outweigh the cons on this. I'm not so much into super huge graphics personally. I'd rather play something with quality storyline and controls over something that is pretty. Games that have all of the above are few and far between.
 
[quote name='$hady']You SHOULDN'T buy one at launch. There will be much better stuff to play on the 360 so just put your money towards that and wait for a deal on a Wii after the game list grows. :D[/QUOTE]

Are you kidding?? The Wii is arguably going to have the BEST launch library in history! Zelda, Metroid Prime, Rayman 4, Red Steel, Excite Truck, Wii Sports, Wario Ware....how can you NOT get one at launch?!
 
The reason to buy a Wii is really the same reason to buy a DS over a PSP. Look at the DS vs. the PSP, the PSP is capable of running higher end games, playing movies, has a larger screen and a built in joystick while the DS offers a second touch screen. Yet despite this the DS has outsold the PSP worldwide in large part because of the innovations gamewise that Nintendo produced.

The graphics on the Wii will never be as good as those on a 360 or PS3, but you will be guaranteed innovative gameplay.
 
[quote name='dmes65']It seems like everyone on this board is going crazy over this Wii system. Too me it is over priced for what it's going to produce. Maybe I am missing something that you all could help me out on. First there is no High Definition support, secondly it has about the same specs as an old xbox. I also think that after awhile the remote thing will get old in a hurry. Who know why Iam not too excited about this thing. Any ways I am putting up a new sealed copy of Metroid Prime(PC)for the gamecube for why I should buy one at launch. I will only ship to the states and Canada so if you live else where you kinda out of luck. Please dont turn this contest into a flame war. Thanks[/quote]

I am quite convinced this is a fool's errand.
Most of your arguments are purely opinion based, and more likely that not, no amount of evidence or logic is likely to shake that.

As the lion's share of your opinions seem to be mainly based on emotion and "gut" feelings, which rarely are well confronted by logic and reason, only emotion-based pleas or statements will likely have any effect, and more likely that not, they'll just come off as offputting to you.
 
Metroid Prime 3 is coming out on it...nuff said. But if you want my opinion its because...well nintendo is innovative and fun, I cant believe people actually care for graphics, it has to be fun for me otherwise its not worth buying. Just get it..now can I have my game now?
 
It's not about the graphics. With this system you can let go of those notions of power and performance and just have fun with it. Swinging a controller around sounds totally sweet! Plus there's 20 years worth of games from the past that you can explore. It'll never get old with all there is to download.
 
For the ladies, dmes, for the ladies.

"Come over and play on my 360."

No.

"Come over and play on my PS3."

No.

"Come over and play on my Wii."

Yes!
 
Yukine's got a good point... the Wii is friendlier towards non-gamers than the other systems. This is just as relevant as all the other good points that have been raised. We all have one or two non-gamer friends or family members, and now here's our chance to drag them into the fold.
 
This post assumes you have friends/family who are willing to play video games and find social, multi-player gaming especially fun.

Until I sold off my GC, I used it almost exclusively for playing with friends and family. I bought a ton of goofy accessories (bongos, extra contollers) simply for the sake of the one or two times a month I'd have more than 3 people in the house interested in killing some time with gaming.

I'm planning on the Wii taking the place of my GC. A stand-alone price of $149 and bundle price of $199 seem like reasonable price points to me for what I get in return:

1. So-called party game console with library of multi-player games that appeal to all shapes and sizes
2. Virtual Console backlog of games--for nostalgia's sake
3. Access to newest Mario Kart and Mario platformer

I am willing to pay the rumored prices for the sake of those three points. I understand that you may not be as interested if one of the three isn't important to you.

An important point is that, at this point, the wand controller is a novelty. It may be fun, but it may suck. However, this isn't a concern, as it is apparent that Nintendo realizes some gamers may prefer more standard controllers and are working toward that in parallel with the features of the wand interface. I only mention this because a lot of gamers who are uncertain about the Wii mention the wand as though gamers are forced to use the wand, and it's clear from what Nintendo has said that that this isn't necessarily so.
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Wii + 4 games (poss. 5 if Wii sports is included) = $450

Xbox 360 + 1 game (maybe 2 with that PGR bunddle) =$450

PS3 - a quarter of the system = $450

Choice is obvious for me. Truly innovative gameplay at a much cheaper price, or same old same old (look at the current games and how they play) at a much higher price.[/QUOTE]

You seem to forget that this is Cheap Ass Gamer. Right now you can get a XBOX 360 for $350 at Overstock and most games are $40 at Playasia.

Xbox 360 + 3 games (2 from Play-Asia and 1 cheaper game (Kameo is an excellent choice)) =$450.

Plus the 360 was $307 at Overstock a few weeks ago and there's nothing to say it won't show up that cheap again before the Wii launches.
 
Well using that logic then (overstock will get it to you much cheaper).

Make it the Wii plus like 8 or 9 games for $450 (since it obviously won't be just an xbox 360 thing)
 
[quote name='schuerm26']Well using that logic then (overstock will get it to you much cheaper).

Make it the Wii plus like 8 or 9 games for $450 (since it obviously won't be just an xbox 360 thing)[/QUOTE]

Obviously everything will become cheaper later, but I assume we're talking about buying the Wii at launch, not 6 months later. Therefore I'm comparing the price the 360 is now and could be before the Wii's launch to the price the Wii will be at launch, which undoubtedly will be MSRP.
 
One word: Shenmue. (the first one). If you play it now, it's nothing that spectacular (about equivelent with current gen), but when it came out for the Dreamcast, it was hot shit; one of the most visually realistic games of the time, with incredibly effort put into character and environmental realism. It even had some Hi-def, in the form of VGA support.
But it SUCKED! One of the worst games I've ever played, and I'm pretty sure the worst game that I own. The control scheme was awful, the plot was freaking boring, and the gameplay was absolutely monotonous. You spent most of your time running around and asking people stupid questions, or driving a forklift as a part-time job. They made it to look like this awesome kung-fu game, but there are only like 3 battles in the whole freaking game, and you could learn and practice a whole bunch of different moves, but it was pointless, because every battle could be beaten by just repeating the punch-punch-punch combo ad nausium, until you win. And at the end of the game, how are you rewarded for making it through all that crap? Your character gets on a boat, to go to China, to continue his journey (undoubtedly finding a part time job driving a Chinese fork-lift, as he asks Chinese people stupid questions in his spare time).

Now, what does this have to do with the Wii, you ask? Everything. Current gaming in standards are that graphics are what's important. Rather than working on developing new genres or control schemes, all game developers work on doing is making thier product more visually appealing, and crappy games like Shenmue are the biproduct of that thinking.

But Nintendo is breaking away from that, with the Wii. They're showing that there's more to upgrade in a system, than how many pixels it can pump out per second, they're finally doing what every game company should: they're breaking away from the norm of focusing on graphics, they're trying something different, and so far, the results look like they're going to be great. If you want to see something that just looks good, then go to a movie, but if you want to play a game that's actually fun, get a Wii.
 
Bah, Shenmue is a great game that is only marred (or in some people's opinions made a ton better) by the subpar voice acting.
 
[quote name='furyk']Bah, Shenmue is a great game that is only marred (or in some people's opinions made a ton better) by the subpar voice acting.[/quote]
Any game where you need to get a part-time moving boxes around is not a good game.
 
[quote name='KABUKISTAR']One word: Shenmue. (the first one). If you play it now, it's nothing that spectacular (about equivelent with current gen), but when it came out for the Dreamcast, it was hot shit; one of the most visually realistic games of the time, with incredibly effort put into character and environmental realism. It even had some Hi-def, in the form of VGA support.
But it SUCKED! One of the worst games I've ever played, and I'm pretty sure the worst game that I own. The control scheme was awful, the plot was freaking boring, and the gameplay was absolutely monotonous. You spent most of your time running around and asking people stupid questions, or driving a forklift as a part-time job. They made it to look like this awesome kung-fu game, but there are only like 3 battles in the whole freaking game, and you could learn and practice a whole bunch of different moves, but it was pointless, because every battle could be beaten by just repeating the punch-punch-punch combo ad nausium, until you win. And at the end of the game, how are you rewarded for making it through all that crap? Your character gets on a boat, to go to China, to continue his journey (undoubtedly finding a part time job driving a Chinese fork-lift, as he asks Chinese people stupid questions in his spare time).

Now, what does this have to do with the Wii, you ask? Everything. Current gaming in standards are that graphics are what's important. Rather than working on developing new genres or control schemes, all game developers work on doing is making thier product more visually appealing, and crappy games like Shenmue are the biproduct of that thinking.

But Nintendo is breaking away from that, with the Wii. They're showing that there's more to upgrade in a system, than how many pixels it can pump out per second, they're finally doing what every game company should: they're breaking away from the norm of focusing on graphics, they're trying something different, and so far, the results look like they're going to be great. If you want to see something that just looks good, then go to a movie, but if you want to play a game that's actually fun, get a Wii.[/QUOTE]


Shenmue does not have Hi-Def. It has Enhanced Definition (480p) the only other system besides 360 or PC to have Hi-Def is about 20 XBOX games. Check here to see which ones (the ones with 720p or 1080i):

http://www.hdtvarcade.com/hdtvforum/index.php?autocom=custom&page=xboxa

Also, everyone fails to realize that more power does not just mean better graphics. It means more realistic physics (which can add a lot to the game), bigger enviroments, better AI, and much more. You can't tell me that PS2, XBOX, and GC are just graphically better versions of PS & N64 games. Nor can you say that all of the current generation games could have been ported to older systems by just downgrading the graphics (and keeping everything else exactly the same).
 
Because you can tell you friends:

I spent the entire weekend with my wii- and I discovered so many new pleasurable and enjoyable things. I love to play with my wii. I play with my wii so much that my wife is leaving me. I like to have big fat men over who are good at manipulating my wii- they help me increase my pleasure playing with my wii.
 
Your original question was "Why I should buy one at launch?".

Answer: If not, your only option is ebay and the price will be at least $400.
 
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