Cops to Pull Teens Over ---- For Good Driving!

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As defenders of the Patriot Act would argue, "if you're not breaking the law, then you have nothing to worry about":

Beginning this fall Pinellas County Sheriff's Deputies will be pulling over teen drivers who haven't broken any traffic laws.

As part of a new program, deputies will be pulling over teens for safe driving and rewarding them with free movie theater and movie rental certificates.

Uniformed deputies driving unmarked cars will follow the drivers and give out the certificates.

"Deputies will follow them for a short distance, down a thoroughfare and we will watch their driving," said Sgt. Glenn Luben, Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. "Once we identify a good safe driver, we attempt to follow them to their house or open shopping area."

Some parents think it's a great idea to reward teens for safe, responsible driving. However, while most agree the reward is nice, some parents are concerned about this method of identifying safe drivers.

"I'd be concerned whether they'd think it's a real police officer pulling them over," says Jennifer Zeitler, parent of a teen driver. "It's scary for parents too. There's so many kidnappings and other things going on; I'd be concerned for my child."

The program was started by an Oldsmar, Fla. man whose son was killed in an accident involving a teen driver. After the program begins this fall, there is a possibility it will spread to other communities.

http://www.9news.com/acm_news.aspx?...MPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f-02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf
 
Oh yeah this would last long....

I rather get where I need to go then put up with the dumbass cops giving me a movie ticket. it's like going "You got a 100 on your spelling test, here's a sticker". We aren't fucking 5.

I hate cops.
 
Funny. It's been proven that positive recognition/reward of the action you want to continue, works much better to reinforce that behavior and keep it continuing, than punishment of negative behavior [ie, the ticket for speeding or whatever]. Isn't that one of the arguments liberals use in favor of 'rehabilitation' instead of 'punishment' in prisons?
Then again, the punishment thing merely helps to increase negativity, and negative bids for attention, which is a very common thing among liberals nowadays.

The only issue I have with it is the uniformed officer in unmarked cars. I can see where having an unmarked car following you could be unnerving; but then again, even the unmarked cars have the dash lights, and the officer would be in a uniform anyway. I wouldn't think the officer would require the driver to get out of the car; just open the window, say, I was following you and wanted to reward you, and give them the passes or whatever, so as long as the driver used common sense [door locked, gon't get out, open window just enough, etc], it shouldn't be a problem. Besides, unmarked cars are already allowed to pull people over; they usually don't, but they can in most communities.

What does the Patriot Act have to do with this? First, the PA is federal legislation, this thing is based on one community. Secondly, why do you care how one *state* or *community* handles its law enforcement, as long as its legal [like not beating suspects, etc]. This falls under states rights, which I seem to recall suddenly being important to liberals. Or is it only important if it's dealing with illegal drugs, but not okay regarding law enforcement?
 
[quote name='dtcarson']The only issue I have with it is the uniformed officer in unmarked cars.[/QUOTE]

That's why it's a horrible idea. 16 year-old Suzie who never breaks the speed limit gets pulled over by a unmarked car with a siren at dusk, thinking she's gonna get free passes to "Fever Pitch". Yet anyone can buy a siren.
 
Except for the fact that the only times I've seen a cop use his siren, marked or unmarked, is when they're trying to get someplace and traffic won't get out of the way. Once they get there, they usually cut the siren, and leave the lights on.
Not everyone can buy a bubble light, and a uniform, and a badge, and a gun. And again, simple common sense [apparently uncommon nowadays] can help to prevent any danger.
In fact, here's common sense right here in the article:

"we attempt to follow them to their house or open shopping area."

Which is exactly what they say to do when you have to pull over anyway; use common sense, go someplace public/busy/bright, etc.

This is not a horrible idea, I think it's a pretty damn good one, and even apart from reinforcing positive behavior [always a good thing], it could perhaps improve people's, especially young people's, perception of cops as The Man who's always trying to beat them down--as is evidenced in this very thread. Perhaps the implementation of the idea could use some improvement, but at its core, I think it's a good idea.
Sure, there are bad cops, just like there are bad everythings; but most cops are decent, hardworking people trying to do their part to make their part of the world a little safer, and they as a whole deserve more respect than they get. Plus, many of the things they're reviled for, they have nothing to do with--they are doing their job, as handed down to them by elected officials. Similar to berating a CSR or retail cashier for following a clearly stated policy, which many people here do.
 
My grandfather got pulled over in missouri cause he had a massachuesetts plate. You are supposed to stop at railroad crossings there, and he was the only out of state car the cop had ever seen do that (he grew up in missouri and moved, since my grandmother wouldn't leave MA, shortly after he returned home from WW2)

Though I hate this idea, people tell me I look very young, so my luck I'll get stopped. I'ver never been pulled over by an unmarked car, but I have been going 80-85 and then hit my breaks cause I noticed lights in the back window of the car in front of me.

Though an actual problem is that the kid may be going to school or work and may now be late due to no fault of there own. They should at least give them something to show their school/employer so they don't get in trouble for this.
 
The law enforcement arm of the government shouldn't abuse it's position of authority to please someone with "good intentions"

My tax dollars pay the police to keep the peace and enforce the law. Period.

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[quote name='daschrier']This is probably the most irresponsible program I've ever heard about...[/QUOTE]

You don't follow the government very closely, do you? :lol:
 
Being able to drive is its own reward. If you can't drive correctly you SHOULD get your license yanked. Now, instead of pulling over that asshole doing 90 and constantly lane hoping, police will be busy handing out movie passes! Yay!

Why the fuck has our society been turning so ass backwards the past few years? Its wrong to punish; you're supposed to reward them on the off chance they do something right....

I need to kill someone... :twoguns:
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']
Though an actual problem is that the kid may be going to school or work and may now be late due to no fault of there own. They should at least give them something to show their school/employer so they don't get in trouble for this.[/QUOTE]

They don't need license and registration, and they don't pull you over in the middle of nowhere. Chances are, you'd talk to the cop for a minute in the school parking lot. I hope you're not late for school!

Seriously, you guys are unappeasable.(not you, alonzo)
 
[quote name='Kayden']Being able to drive is its own reward. [/QUOTE]

Hell no. Driving is the most overrated, non-rewarding waste of money ever invented.

I enjoyed it for the first 2 weeks when I was 17. That was it. Now it's only good for finding new bands on XM.
 
[quote name='Rich']Hell no. Driving is the most overrated, non-rewarding waste of money ever invented.

I enjoyed it for the first 2 weeks when I was 17. That was it. Now it's only good for finding new bands on XM.[/QUOTE]

I meant that it is a privilege and NOT a right. Demonstraiting the capacity to drive properly earns you the ability to drive properly some more. A lot of people assume they should automatically be allowed to drive reguardless of their compotence or ability to pay things like insurance.
 
[quote name='dtcarson']Funny. It's been proven that positive recognition/reward of the action you want to continue, works much better to reinforce that behavior and keep it continuing, than punishment of negative behavior [ie, the ticket for speeding or whatever]. Isn't that one of the arguments liberals use in favor of 'rehabilitation' instead of 'punishment' in prisons?
Then again, the punishment thing merely helps to increase negativity, and negative bids for attention, which is a very common thing among liberals nowadays.

The only issue I have with it is the uniformed officer in unmarked cars. I can see where having an unmarked car following you could be unnerving; but then again, even the unmarked cars have the dash lights, and the officer would be in a uniform anyway. I wouldn't think the officer would require the driver to get out of the car; just open the window, say, I was following you and wanted to reward you, and give them the passes or whatever, so as long as the driver used common sense [door locked, gon't get out, open window just enough, etc], it shouldn't be a problem. Besides, unmarked cars are already allowed to pull people over; they usually don't, but they can in most communities.

What does the Patriot Act have to do with this? First, the PA is federal legislation, this thing is based on one community. Secondly, why do you care how one *state* or *community* handles its law enforcement, as long as its legal [like not beating suspects, etc]. This falls under states rights, which I seem to recall suddenly being important to liberals. Or is it only important if it's dealing with illegal drugs, but not okay regarding law enforcement?[/QUOTE]

So a cop pulls over a nervous 16-year old teen who's not breaking any laws. The cop sees that the kid's nervous, then asks to search his car. You don't see the police abusing this system?? You trash liberals with not supporting this, but I always thought conservatives stood for private life without big brother watching over your shoulder. Apparently, that was pre-Dubya days. It's all just neocons now.

And if you haven't been paying attention, the Patriot Act also intrudes into your private life by collecting information about you that previously needed court orders to allow. So much for our freedoms. As benjamin franklin said "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

BTW - here's something the police COULD be doing instead -- trying to find those 500 missing florida children from 3 years ago, instead of handing out movie tickets paid for by YOUR tax dollars.
 
[quote name='Rich']Hell no. Driving is the most overrated, non-rewarding waste of money ever invented.[/QUOTE]

With programs like this one, it looks like the Fla police department is trying to win the "overrated, non-rewarding waste of money" award.
 
I can see it now!
High speed chase ensues - 3 dead after teen refuses to stop to recieve his free movie tickets for good driving!!

:rofl:
 
Cute, this allows them to randomly stop teenagers and check them for alcohol and drugs without having to worry about explaining it to the courts.
 
I for one will be buying more clothes with "hidden pockets" if this hits AZ.

Shoes with hidden pockets.... Check.

Pants with hidden pockets..... Check!

Shirts with hidden pockets..... Check!!!!

Yea, I think I'm covered for a little while.
 
[quote name='David85'].

I hate cops.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, damn those men and women who volunteer to put their life on the line for America every day! Dispicable, how they go around arresting drug dealers, rapists and murders!. :roll: Not all cops are saints, but "Die pig" hippies are just moronic.

Kent State! Woo!

Anyway, I think this idea is unrealistic, and I believe having the cop talk to you later is a lame idea, pretty much for the reasons everyone gave earlier. Oh, and the title- You make it sound like what the cops are doing is negative, such as pulling someone over for speeding. Nice bait.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']So a cop pulls over a nervous 16-year old teen who's not breaking any laws. The cop sees that the kid's nervous, then asks to search his car. You don't see the police abusing this system?? You trash liberals with not supporting this, but I always thought conservatives stood for private life without big brother watching over your shoulder. Apparently, that was pre-Dubya days. It's all just neocons now.
[/QUOTE]

I acted really nervous and confused and it got me out of a ticket. I didn't see the cop for about 2 minutes, then when I did I was at my turn and figured it would be easier to turn and get out of the guys way instead of pulling over, then when I did go to pull over I turned left into the parking lot so to not block traffic in the main way. The cop felt bad I think cause I was so nervous and confused (first time I was ever pulled over).

Though going 90 (someone mentioned it) on a highway isn't that odd on some roads, though it is for a consistent speed. I was on I-95 in new hampshire once and people usually go 75-85 on that road (never see cops on it), but occasionally the cars drift up to 90 or drop to 70. I was driving with the cars and looked in my rear view mirror and saw a white car, looking down saw I was doing 90, looked back and saw it was a cop. I had no idea if I should slow down or stay at the speed like the 2 other cars near me (since he wasn't doing anything). I stayed at 90 and in a few seconds he changed lanes and went around me. He wasn't in a hurry either since I saw him pay the toll a few miles down.

Though I got a ticket for doing 75 in a 65 on the new york state thruway, you wouldn't get one for that around here.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']I acted really nervous and confused and it got me out of a ticket. I didn't see the cop for about 2 minutes, then when I did I was at my turn and figured it would be easier to turn and get out of the guys way instead of pulling over, then when I did go to pull over I turned left into the parking lot so to not block traffic in the main way. The cop felt bad I think cause I was so nervous and confused (first time I was ever pulled over).

Though going 90 (someone mentioned it) on a highway isn't that odd on some roads, though it is for a consistent speed. I was on I-95 in new hampshire once and people usually go 75-85 on that road (never see cops on it), but occasionally the cars drift up to 90 or drop to 70. I was driving with the cars and looked in my rear view mirror and saw a white car, looking down saw I was doing 90, looked back and saw it was a cop. I had no idea if I should slow down or stay at the speed like the 2 other cars near me (since he wasn't doing anything). I stayed at 90 and in a few seconds he changed lanes and went around me. He wasn't in a hurry either since I saw him pay the toll a few miles down.

Though I got a ticket for doing 75 in a 65 on the new york state thruway, you wouldn't get one for that around here.[/QUOTE]

I hate drivers these days. We were driving down 66 coming out of DC today and someone cut us the hell off, clipping our car. We pulled up, and gave the guy a finger, cut him off, and slowed way the hell down. Pot calling the kettle black, eh? :lol:

I suppose I shouldn't be suprised, as one of the dumb mottos of colorado drivers is "You know you're from Colorado if you're the fifth person through the red light."
 
[quote name='Tiphireth']Yeah, damn those men and women who volunteer to put their life on the line for America every day! Dispicable, how they go around arresting drug dealers, rapists and murders!. :roll: Not all cops are saints, but "Die pig" hippies are just moronic.

Kent State! Woo!

Anyway, I think this idea is unrealistic, and I believe having the cop talk to you later is a lame idea, pretty much for the reasons everyone gave earlier. Oh, and the title- You make it sound like what the cops are doing is negative, such as pulling someone over for speeding. Nice bait.[/QUOTE]

fuck every single Staten Island cop ever.
They don't volunteer to put their lives on the line for America. They fucking give speeding tickets. That's all. Ever. Crime here consists of 15 year old kids with spray paint.
And they give tickets for doing 10 over, like alonzo said.
 
[quote name='Rich']fuck every single Staten Island cop ever.
They don't volunteer to put their lives on the line for America. They fucking give speeding tickets. That's all. Ever. Crime here soncists of 15 year old kids with spray paint.
And they give tickets for doing 10 over, like alonzo said.[/QUOTE]

Ah, well, fuck you guys, I did say not every cop. I'd say the ones that are shot at, attacked with knives, ect are pretty damn heroic.
 
[quote name='suko_32']Getting pulled over for whatever reason would scare me. I'd rather not get pulled over even for a movie ticket.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

If I get pulled over, I'd be like "Thanks for the heart pounding out of my chest, the bile that's formed in the back of my throat, and the 'Sisters of Travelling Hot Pants" tickets. I don't know what's worse..."
 
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