Cuba responds to u.s. lights highlighting detained dissidents

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I think they went a bit far with the swastika, but I thought this was pretty good. Nothing over the top, but I couldn't help but think this little squabble between the 2 nations was a little funny.

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Cuba has put up photos of abused Iraqi prisoners in front of the US interests section in Havana after the US displayed Christmas decorations there.
The Cuban display includes images of Iraqis at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad, and the word "fascists".

Cuba complained earlier this week to the US mission about its decorations which included a reference to 75 Cuban dissidents jailed last year.

The US says the decorations will remain in place until the end of the holidays.

Cuba's most senior US diplomat, James Cason, said earlier this week any action taken by Cuba against US personnel or the US mission in Havana would not affect his government's determination to draw attention to human rights.

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The display at the US interests section - so-called because the US and Cuba do not have diplomatic relations - includes a huge white Santa Claus, an image of galloping reindeer and a flashing sign wishing Cubans a Happy Christmas.


A large figure 75 is picked out in neon, inside a large circle.

Fourteen dissidents have been freed since the arrests took place in March 2003, in a major clampdown on political dissent
 
Yes, what did Bush's hero Jesus say?

"Let he who is without sin..."

(For the benefit of all, the quote is "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone")
 
[quote name='camoor']Yes, what did Bush's hero Jesus say?

"Let he who is without sin..."

(For the benefit of all, the quote is "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone")[/quote]

Todd: Got him dad!
 
[quote name='David85']The thing I don't get is why are we even in Cuba?

And shouldn't Cuba just kick us out then?[/quote]

It is a hold over from the Spanish American War. The US obtained a perpetual lease from the Cuban governement in 1903.

I am unsure how we are able to maintain the lease, however.

More info at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay
 
[quote name='David85']The thing I don't get is why are we even in Cuba?

And shouldn't Cuba just kick us out then?[/quote]

Because the government is very unstable and one day there may be a chance to help the people be free.

Fidel talks big, but he needs the US more than we obviously need him. He knows that if he kicks us out he won't get the aid and benefits that we give him. Besides he is hardly in a position to provoke or intimidate us.
 
[quote name='Scrubking'][quote name='David85']The thing I don't get is why are we even in Cuba?

And shouldn't Cuba just kick us out then?[/quote]

Because the government is very unstable and one day there may be a chance to help the people be free.

Fidel talks big, but he needs the US more than we obviously need him. He knows that if he kicks us out he won't get the aid and benefits that we give him. Besides he is hardly in a position to provoke or intimidate us.[/quote]

How is cuba unstable? What about castro's regime and the situation in Cuba suggests that? Look at the improvements of health care (far superior to the rest of the developing world, and equal or approaching first world nations in many aspects), education, food (so the poor don't starve), sanitation etc. since the fall of our batista. A dictator with none of these things is what our guy (batista) provided, a dictator with these advances is fidel. He still has decent support, more than most other dictators I can think of. It would be interesting if he would win an election, though I think he could, not due to majority support (which he doesn't have), but because of a lack of unified opposition. He is not nearly as despised in cuba as saddam is in Iraq, there are real improvements in cuba since he gained power, this why he still has support. Sure there are those who want his head and would like the u.s. assistance in overthrowing him, but they are not anywhere near the majority. While fidel has been cruel in many aspects, he does not deserve a place among saddam, kim jong il, karimov (uzbekistan), mugabe etc., and few outside the u.s. put him there. From what I've seen, the majority of cubans want to maintain their current system in terms of education and health care, while allowing more freedom of movement, political freedoms, trade liberalization, and democracy and human rights (though, sadly, fidel is an improvement over batista here). Whether this includes fidel or not isn't as important. Few cubans are longing for the days of Batista, but they aren't longing for fidel or u.s. intervention either.
 
Actually, no.

It is the result of an unbalanced treaty, the US owns part of Cuba.

The regime in Cuba is absolutely unstable, there is widespread dissent and most likely underground resistance movements.

The communist rule is temporary, but the US will support it because Democratic revolutionaries would bring human rights to Cuba, and the Guantanamo base would lose it's purpose.

Don't try and twist or rationalise the situation, communist propaganda has a single purpose: make the country look bettet than it actually is.

It is how the Soviets gained so many agents in the US and England, people bought the propaganda.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']Actually, no.

It is the result of an unbalanced treaty, the US owns part of Cuba.

The regime in Cuba is absolutely unstable, there is widespread dissent and most likely underground resistance movements.

The communist rule is temporary, but the US will support it because Democratic revolutionaries would bring human rights to Cuba, and the Guantanamo base would lose it's purpose.

Don't try and twist or rationalise the situation, communist propaganda has a single purpose: make the country look bettet than it actually is.

It is how the Soviets gained so many agents in the US and England, people bought the propaganda.[/quote]

The U.S. is supporting the Castro regime? Dude, you're high on crack right now, aren't you?
 
The US uses a base on Cuban soil to hold prisoners, and do things that are forbiden by the Geneva Convention.

One hand washes the other.
 
[quote name='Quackzilla']The US uses a base on Cuban soil to hold prisoners, and do things that are forbiden by the Geneva Convention.

One hand washes the other.[/quote]

Riiight, because the Cubans actually want the U.S. to be in Guantanamo in your fictional drug-induced dream world, right?
 
Good thing people around here don't do that kind of thing. If anyone put up pictures of people tortured under Saddam's regime around here during Rhambadon the left would go nuts.
 
[quote name='gamefreak']Good thing people around here don't do that kind of thing. If anyone put up pictures of people tortured under Saddam's regime around here during Rhambadon the left would go nuts.[/quote]

And rightfully so, since it would be linking saddam (who ran an essentially secular country) to Islam itself. The cubans didn't put up the pictures in response to christmas, or to link the abuses to christians, if they did then we'd have a right to complain. They put up pictures of our human rights abuses because we put up lights showing their human rights abuses.
 
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