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DEFCON Has Launched! See page 2 for more details.

Would you like to play a game of Global Thermonuclear War?

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DEFCON by Introversion Software is an RTS of paranoia, alliances and of course, massive massive nuclear explosions. Instead of having the super high detailed battles of something like Company of Heroes, you play on a Global scale on a map that looks like it's out of Wargames. It's a game where instead of being concerned about resources and macros, you're far more worried about where the enemy has placed his units....and if an ally is about to turn on you.

The game plays out in a series of stages. In DEFCON 5, all you can do is place your units. In DEFCON 4, you can begin sending out recon missions. This keeps on going down until DEFCON 1, where you can launch nukes. It's designed for a very tense countdown to armageddon.

Check out the trailer here:

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=3133

The main DEFCON webpage is located at:

www.everybody-dies.com

First review is up from IGN. 8.8

http://pc.ign.com/articles/732/732711p1.html

Here's a link to the Wikipedia article on DEFCON.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defcon_(computer_game)

Last link, here's a good interview with the main DEFCON developer.

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=62477

They're taking pre-orders for the game now, which launches on September 29th. It's $17.50 and you get a digital download the day of launch and a printed box with manual shipped free. (Normally the box + manual is $8.50 more, after the pre-orders.) If you want, you can buy it on Steam for $10, but there's some kind of weird situation going on with it. Boxed copies can not be tied to a Steam account (as in, you can't download it through Steam, though you can still download it at Introversion's site.) Boxed copies WILL be able to play with Steam copies. Anyway, Introversion's a small time developer with weird ideas, they deserve the extra cash.


In case anyone's still a little confused on how the game situations will play out, here's a nice quote from the interview, talking about Alliance games.

[quote name='Interview Thingy']Eurogamer: Unlike the real Cold War, the game supports more than two superpowers. How does that operate?

Chris Delay: We're also building a fairly complex Alliances system. If six players fight each other it tends to end up a shambles, so we're permitting players to form alliances and play (say) three versus three. Each individual player is still playing to win - their score is independent of their alliance's progress, and players can betray their alliances and switch to the opponent's teams if they choose to and are able to convince the enemy to permit it. (This is determined by a vote of all the players in the destination alliance). We're predicting its going to get quite ugly, with players attempting to line up the perfect attack on a team-mate before betraying them and striking at a key moment. There's going to be a lot of paranoia in alliance games. We've got in-game IRC between players (public and private) and we've noticed lots of "wheeling and dealing" in the games we've played, with players desperately trying to secure their alliances.

Eurogamer: Care to give an example of the sort of Machiavellian disasters we can see?

Chris Delay: We've seen alliance members shooting overhead friendly planes down because they believed the planes were scouting the area for targets in preparation for a strike. This results in arguments in the chat channels, followed by skirmishes at sea, followed by retaliation, before finally the whole alliance collapses and everyone starts nuking the hell out of each other. It's awesome. [/quote]


Anyway, I've already gone off and pre-ordered the box copy. Hopefully, I'll see some of you guys online....so I can blast the unliving crap out of your population.
 
Yep, been waiting for this one for a while.

Not sure if I'll preorder it through STEAM or what... I might just get it directly from the makers. They definitly deserve to be supported with titles like Darwinia and Uplink.
 
[quote name='P dad']preordered off of steam for $9.95. IGN has review up....[/QUOTE]

Thanks! Forgot about the review. I've added the link to the OP.
 
Just got clarification on the STEAM issue. Boxed copies CAN play with Steam copies, but you can't register your boxed copy on to Steam. OP updated.
 
I'd like to get a boxed copy, but Steam is just too convenient to pass up, especially when it's the cheaper option. I'll probably get it through Steam. Then

Everybody Dies.
 
although this looks like a fun game.... what's the point? MAD pretty much says everyone looses :| Please say there is online multiplayer :)
 
[quote name='mercilessming']not that it is bad but isn't this game Online only? or is it single player also.[/QUOTE]

There is A.I. support for multiplayer and single player.
 
This game is all about the online multiplayer. There's an A.I. to play single player against, but it wont hold a candle to a human.


The point of this game is to nuke your opponent's civilian population while protecting yours. You get 2 points per opponent's population unit killed and -1 per your population unit killed. (Units are probably 1 million people per, but only beta testers know.) It's all about Mutually Assured Destruction and paranoia, since your allied players could turn against you at any point.


And the game is won by the single player with the highest score, not the highest alliance.
 
Wow, you know I bought this just by looking at the screen shots. Now those videos show me that what I bought is worth 3x what I paid.
 
This game looks really sweet, and I have it pre-ordered through Steam. Only thing that sucks is that its midterm time, so yeah.
 
Got mine preloaded and awaiting to get off work, ready to learn and save my country from Global Thermo Nuclear War.

"I want, what they want, and every other guy who came over here and spilled his guts and gave everything he had, wants! For our country to love us as much as we love it! That's what I want!"
 
makes me wonder, in one of the modes, everyone starts as allies, but its a matter of time before alliances are broken and war errupts..ok...so how can you piss off your allies? can you "invade" another country to gain its supplies (oil?) because you are running low on yours? Or will it take some teenage fucker to start nuking everyone just for kicks?
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']makes me wonder, in one of the modes, everyone starts as allies, but its a matter of time before alliances are broken and war errupts..ok...so how can you piss off your allies? can you "invade" another country to gain its supplies (oil?) because you are running low on yours? Or will it take some teenage fucker to start nuking everyone just for kicks?[/QUOTE]


Basically, it can be as Machivellian as you want. You can break an alliance cause you think the enemy is a bad typist, or you can talk to a guy, butter him up, throw him against another player (who you've also been coordinating negotiations with to attack the first enemy) and once he's in combat, break the alliance and stab him in the back.
 
[quote name='Logain8955']Basically, it can be as Machivellian as you want. You can break an alliance cause you think the enemy is a bad typist, or you can talk to a guy, butter him up, throw him against another player (who you've also been coordinating negotiations with to attack the first enemy) and once he's in combat, break the alliance and stab him in the back.[/QUOTE]


hmmm... Now see that's going to cause a lot of griefing. There should be options where you can invade and capture a country to gain its resources if you have the forces to do so. If the country you invade is protected by one of your allies, then yes it would be enough for them to have just cause to respond in force. Its like if the US invades and captures most of southern asia, you think China and the Soviet Union is going to sit back and do nothing? They have a reason to strike back..not like "oh ok..today I am going to Nuke Asia, just because I feel like it."
 
It wouls be awsome if there was voice comms in the game, so at the begining, someone would be like "So, how bout them (insert sport team here)?", and someone else is like "OMGWTFBBQ, they suck, im gonna nuke your ass *****" and all out nuclear war starts.
 
DEFCON Has launched! Shortly, we'll all be sending nukes over in an effort to utterly destroy what mankind has created.

Of course, there are problems. DEFCON is very popular right now, and it's overloaded the crap out of Introversion's site. They've disabled the store, forums are offline and it's taking longer than expected to get the emails with your download keys out. Just be patient, and you'll get them.
 
i wonder how slow the download speeds will be once people get on to download the game..I got my key already but no game :( Also what if the connection times out during download..will I be able to try again later or am I fucked?
 
Thanks, ITDEFX :D I was just about to post the mirrors. I kinda got sidetracked though, as I was busy blowing up Mexico.

It's a very tense game. I just played a game that started off as East vs West, and ended up with me (playing the U.S.)backstabbing South America, nuked them to hell, Asia went after Russia and then we teamed up and took on everyone. I actually made it through the game without losing a single person :D

If you're having auth problems, put in your key and just let it sit for like 5-10 minutes. Alt-tab and dick around on the internet. There's also an mIRC channel going on, it's at

server: irc.uplinkcorp.net
channel: #defcon
 
[quote name='Logain8955']Thanks, ITDEFX :D I was just about to post the mirrors. I kinda got sidetracked though, as I was busy blowing up Mexico.

It's a very tense game. I just played a game that started off as East vs West, and ended up with me (playing the U.S.)backstabbing South America, nuked them to hell, Asia went after Russia and then we teamed up and took on everyone. I actually made it through the game without losing a single person :D

If you're having auth problems, put in your key and just let it sit for like 5-10 minutes. Alt-tab and dick around on the internet. There's also an mIRC channel going on, it's at

server: irc.uplinkcorp.net
channel: #defcon[/QUOTE]


Sure no problem..just don't hit ESC twice or it will Quit to desktop :(
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']Sure no problem..just don't hit ESC twice or it will Quit to desktop :([/QUOTE]

Actually, double ESC is the Boss Key. It minimizes the game, and puts it in the system tray. You still keep playing, you just need to pull it back up from there.
 
[quote name='dtarasev']I can't connect to a server as of know but damn, that tutorial was fun. Asia is dead.[/QUOTE]

yea very intresting game... music sucks.......
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']yea very intresting game... music sucks.......[/quote]

I don't think the music sucks, I think it fits very fell with the game's setting. I mean it is a global thermonuclear war. What kind of music did you expect? High speed techno?
 
[quote name='dtarasev']I don't think the music sucks, I think it fits very fell with the game's setting. I mean it is a global thermonuclear war. What kind of music did you expect? High speed techno?[/QUOTE]


how did i know someone was going to say that? To be honest..... I would prefer just sound effects. Now if only I had the score to wargames :)
 
is it just me, or are there hosts who just sit on there ass and don't start a game :| ??? I have been trying to get into a game for almost an hour and hosts don't do shit or I can't even get into a game :(
 
The metaserver (ze thing that tracks the games) is super monkeyed up right now. Basically, DEFCON's sold way more than Introversion was expecting, and it's overloading systems. Introversion's scrambling right now to upgrade it to handle everything. Just be patient, it'll all get fixed.

And I've found the music to be very appropriate. It's subtly creepy. (Of course, when the woman begins sobbing hysterically just as you send off nukes, it's not so subtle.)
 
[quote name='Logain8955']The metaserver (ze thing that tracks the games) is super monkeyed up right now. Basically, DEFCON's sold way more than Introversion was expecting, and it's overloading systems. Introversion's scrambling right now to upgrade it to handle everything. Just be patient, it'll all get fixed.

And I've found the music to be very appropriate. It's subtly creepy. (Of course, when the woman begins sobbing hysterically just as you send off nukes, it's not so subtle.)[/QUOTE]


sobbing? I hear more like Coughing :| This game needs tanks and troop movements :)
 
[quote name='ITDEFX']sobbing? I hear more like Coughing :| This game needs tanks and troop movements :)[/QUOTE]

Actually, there's both. There's 3 major "talking" sound effects. The person coughing, the woman crying, and some guy saying the Lord's Prayer.
 
[quote name='Logain8955']Actually, there's both. There's 3 major "talking" sound effects. The person coughing, the woman crying, and some guy saying the Lord's Prayer.[/QUOTE]


I started hearing the crying only twice yesterday, but more coughing.... haven't heard the lords prayer YET. And yes I have played around 14 games since launch lasting 2-3 hrs.
 
[quote name='moojuice']I;d be up for it. I still am horrible at this game though.[/QUOTE]

i'm more of a win some loose some player... or more like win 1, loose 1, win 1, loose 1.
 
The trick is to force the other player to show you his hand first by letting him come to you... most of the time he will launch most of his ICBM's at you... in almost all cases seabattles usually wipe each other out. :)

i usually have two fleets , one consisting of mostly battleships to pound the hell of out there navy, and then a secondary group of subs coming from behind. then when things are set, hit them from the front and back.
 
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