Did Nintendo FINALLY hit the nail on the head?

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WARNING: THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT A CONSOLE WAR THREAD.

I think Nintendo finally hit the nail on the head. They have talked about gaming and what they think it will need so on and so forth. After them being wrong a few times it seems to me they hit the nail on the head this time. Why?

The lead that the XBOX 360 has is slowly fading away because they can't get enough systems on the shelves. A lot of the games are being pushed back as development times will continue to be longer until they can take advantage of the new hardware. Gears Of War is a game people were drooling over at launch and ebgames now has it coming out around 7/01/06. Graphically the games out now are only a bit better than the XBOX. I'm sure over time a lot of this will change but it puts them at less of an early advantage.

The PS3 will most likely suffer from the same types of problems that the XBOX360 is facing. Shortages of consoles and longer development cycles.

Now here comes the revolution. Almost a polar opposite of the 2 more powerful machines. The difference however will be in its content. Most developers are hitting their stride with the PS2, XBOX, and Cube. So now take that development add a little more horsepower and graphic capability and you'll get some really sweet looking games. Not only will development most likely be fast it will have the knowledge of the 5 or 6 years that the Cube was around. They could also keep their game costs down.

Obviously Nintendo needs to have a few things to really give it an edge. Get Zelda, Mario, Metroid, and Smash Bros. ready at launch like has been rumored. Have more than enough consoles on the shelves. Just like the DS give us free Wi-Fi and a nice interface to use it. Old school content will be an added bonus. Prove your point with the new controller....like you did with the DS. Give us both options....new controller + old controller similar to the DS (stylus/d-pad).

A lot of people and companies talk about the future of gaming being HD. The thing is I can't play HD. I can however play Zelda. So how does High Def = the future of gaming?

THOUGHTS???
 
[quote name='the3rdkey']If the Revolution spits out games like the DS has I will be in heaven!!![/QUOTE]

Amen, brother.
 
[quote name='jkam']WARNING: THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT A CONSOLE WAR THREAD.

I think Nintendo finally hit the nail on the head. They have talked about gaming and what they think it will need so on and so forth. After them being wrong a few times it seems to me they hit the nail on the head this time. Why?

The lead that the XBOX 360 has is slowly fading away because they can't get enough systems on the shelves. A lot of the games are being pushed back as development times will continue to be longer until they can take advantage of the new hardware. Gears Of War is a game people were drooling over at launch and ebgames now has it coming out around 7/01/06. Graphically the games out now are only a bit better than the XBOX. I'm sure over time a lot of this will change but it puts them at less of an early advantage.

The PS3 will most likely suffer from the same types of problems that the XBOX360 is facing. Shortages of consoles and longer development cycles.

Now here comes the revolution. Almost a polar opposite of the 2 more powerful machines. The difference however will be in its content. Most developers are hitting their stride with the PS2, XBOX, and Cube. So now take that development add a little more horsepower and graphic capability and you'll get some really sweet looking games. Not only will development most likely be fast it will have the knowledge of the 5 or 6 years that the Cube was around. They could also keep their game costs down.

Obviously Nintendo needs to have a few things to really give it an edge. Get Zelda, Mario, Metroid, and Smash Bros. ready at launch like has been rumored. Have more than enough consoles on the shelves. Just like the DS give us free Wi-Fi and a nice interface to use it. Old school content will be an added bonus. Prove your point with the new controller....like you did with the DS. Give us both options....new controller + old controller similar to the DS (stylus/d-pad).

A lot of people and companies talk about the future of gaming being HD. The thing is I can't play HD. I can however play Zelda. So how does High Def = the future of gaming?

THOUGHTS???[/QUOTE]

Dreamcast had some pretty good launch titles but 6 months down the road the support started to dwindle and than not long after that the system died out. It's important for nintendo to have great third party support because without it the Revolution will suffer the same way the Cube has.
 
You had me until the HD part. The revolution would be PERFECT if it had HD support and its omission is a HUGE oversight, IMO. I'll still be buying one so I guess Nintendo doesn't lose out on my sale but HD is not only the future of everything (not just games), it is the present.
 
[quote name='the3rdkey']If the Revolution spits out games like the DS has I will be in heaven!!![/QUOTE]

u might be in heaven, I will be poor
 
Revolution could have similar problems to what you mentioned for the 360 though. I would guess that designing a game for such a different controller could take a lot of adjusting by the game developers and thus could slow them down.
 
[quote name='kill3r7']Dreamcast had some pretty good launch titles but 6 months down the road the support started to dwindle and than not long after that the system died out. It's important for nintendo to have great third party support because without it the Revolution will suffer the same way the Cube has.[/QUOTE]
i think that support is even less important with this console.
nintendo continues to push out fantastic games consistanly.
with the game obrary the rev will offer i imagine the console will be very
appealing even if third party support somewhat mirrors that of the cube.

i planned on buying it at launch as well as at least one of the other big 2, however with my backlog ill stick with the rev for a while.
 
ps3 won't make the same mistakes at launch. they'll have plenty of systems available. so kiss your ebay pipe dreams goodbye!
 
[quote name='javeryh']You had me until the HD part. The revolution would be PERFECT if it had HD support and its omission is a HUGE oversight, IMO. I'll still be buying one so I guess Nintendo doesn't lose out on my sale but HD is not only the future of everything (not just games), it is the present.[/QUOTE]
But the question is, if they aren't going for graphical superiority in their games, is the additional cost to support HD worth it, in terms of hardware, software, and costs passed on to the consumer? I don't want the $50->$60 increase to extend to Nintendo's next console.

Third party support I certainly agree will be necessary. We've seen that somewhat with the DS. If Nintendo was the only developer releasing games (though they've certainly released a lot), we wouldn't see nearly the awesome library that exists right now, whether that be because of a slow drain on the developers creativity or simply a lot slower release cycle (due to few developers doing the releasing). Nintendo has released some great GC games, but without the support, releases seem few and far between.
 
It will be another system that has Nintendo's exclusive first party games so they can't go too wrong there. This isn't competing against the X360 and the PS3 though. Graphics and third-party support will ensure that the Revolution will not challenge the other two systems here in North America. Simply put, you're not going to be able to play the most realistic version of Madden on the Revolution.

I'm sure the Revolution will be an extremely fun system and I think it was smart of Nintendo to not try and compete with the other two systems. So I guess they hit the nail on the head in that regard.
 
[quote name='javeryh']You had me until the HD part. The revolution would be PERFECT if it had HD support and its omission is a HUGE oversight, IMO. I'll still be buying one so I guess Nintendo doesn't lose out on my sale but HD is not only the future of everything (not just games), it is the present.[/QUOTE]

You kind of missed my whole point in the statement. HIGH DEF is not a game you can play. It doesn't change anything in gaming. A great game in black and white is still a great game. A shitty game in HIGH DEF is still a shitty game. You wouldn't play your SNES emulator on your PSP if the only reason you were playing was for an HD picture. If Tetris DX was in HD would it be a better game?
 
[quote name='botticus']But the question is, if they aren't going for graphical superiority in their games, is the additional cost to support HD worth it, in terms of hardware, software, and costs passed on to the consumer? I don't want the $50->$60 increase to extend to Nintendo's next console.[/QUOTE]

I'd pay an extra $10 for a game to play it in 16x9 high definition without even blinking. It makes the entire experience better and if a game takes 20 hours to complete I don't think the extra $0.50 per hour is too much to ask. Besides, you could always wait for the inevitable price drop before buying it...
 
[quote name='javeryh']I'd pay an extra $10 for a game to play it in 16x9 high definition without even blinking.[/QUOTE]
Then you're a better man than I, javeryh. Or more accurately, a much more perverted videophile ;)
 
[quote name='jkam']WARNING: THIS IS JUST A THOUGHT PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT A CONSOLE WAR THREAD.

The lead that the XBOX 360 has is slowly fading away because they can't get enough systems on the shelves. A lot of the games are being pushed back as development times will continue to be longer until they can take advantage of the new hardware. Gears Of War is a game people were drooling over at launch and ebgames now has it coming out around 7/01/06. Graphically the games out now are only a bit better than the XBOX. I'm sure over time a lot of this will change but it puts them at less of an early advantage.

A lot of people and companies talk about the future of gaming being HD. The thing is I can't play HD. I can however play Zelda. So how does High Def = the future of gaming?

THOUGHTS???[/QUOTE]

I don't see how you can ask to not make this a console bashing thread, when you are taking shots at the other companies in your argument. I guess I have no fucking clue what you mean when you say the leat that the xbox 360 has is slowly fading. First off there is no competition for it in the next gen market, so the lead isn't fading, as no one is gaining ground. Gears of war has been know for awhile to not be a launch title, it has even been considered a fall/holiday next year title for a little while now. Some games have been pushed back, but 19 were out on launch, 1 has come out since, and there are several games in febuary and march.

Most of the nintendo info that you have posted in order for it to be sucessful has been talked about several times in different threads.
 
[quote name='kill3r7']Dreamcast had some pretty good launch titles but 6 months down the road the support started to dwindle and than not long after that the system died out. It's important for nintendo to have great third party support because without it the Revolution will suffer the same way the Cube has.[/QUOTE]

nah, people think nintendo suffers because the cube wasnt a huge hit in the states. but they own japan, even if the revolution is as lackluster as the cube, theyll still be making money. nintendo is the only one that pulls in profits year in and year out.
 
I would love to get excited over the Rev but I am sick of all the hype from the Big N then only to be disapointed with the home consoles since N64. Nintendo please prove me wrong but I am not spending that kind of money @ launch for 4 games in the consoles lifetime like the GCN and N64 again.
Also I have a HD TV and it is a kick in the face to have no HD support. The Rev seems more like an add on then a new console. And am I the only one that is sick of buying/playing the Nintendo games of the past. I have been a Hardcore gamer since I got my NES in the mid 80s I have played the hell out of all the classics before they were even classics.
The lead that the XBOX 360 has is slowly fading away because they can't get enough systems on the shelves. Graphically the games out now are only a bit better than the XBOX.
Now here comes the revolution. Almost a polar opposite of the 2 more powerful machines. T and you'll get some really sweet looking games.
Click to expand...

The 360 is only a bit better then the Xbox but the Rev is going to have some really sweet looking games??? I am confused, you are bashing the 360s graph...:error:
 
[quote name='ryanbph']I don't see how you can ask to not make this a console bashing thread, when you are taking shots at the other companies in your argument. I guess I have no fucking clue what you mean when you say the leat that the xbox 360 has is slowly fading. First off there is no competition for it in the next gen market, so the lead isn't fading, as no one is gaining ground. Gears of war has been know for awhile to not be a launch title, it has even been considered a fall/holiday next year title for a little while now. Some games have been pushed back, but 19 were out on launch, 1 has come out since, and there are several games in febuary and march.

Most of the nintendo info that you have posted in order for it to be sucessful has been talked about several times in different threads.[/QUOTE]

The whole idea behind launching before everyone else is to get a large install base of systems out before the competition is even out of the gate (hence a lead). Microsoft would be selling more consoles if they were available in stores. This is merely fact. As for the games I was only using this because Nintendo has the potential to push games out at a much faster rate. I just like you don't know if that will happen but that was more or less what I was getting at.
 
[quote name='jkam']The whole idea behind launching before everyone else is to get a large install base of systems out before the competition is even out of the gate (hence a lead). Microsoft would be selling more consoles if they were available in stores. This is merely fact. As for the games I was only using this because Nintendo has the potential to push games out at a much faster rate. I just like you don't know if that will happen but that was more or less what I was getting at.[/QUOTE]

360's are starting to appear in stores more regularly though, so if anything they are BUILDING on that lead, not losing the lead at this point. It's impossible to start losing that lead until the other systems come out.
 
[quote name='spoo']I would love to get excited over the Rev but I am sick of all the hype from the Big N then only to be disapointed with the home consoles since N64. Nintendo please prove me wrong but I am not spending that kind of money @ launch for 4 games in the consoles lifetime like the GCN and N64 again.
Also I have a HD TV and it is a kick in the face to have no HD support. The Rev seems more like an add on then a new console. And am I the only one that is sick of buying/playing the Nintendo games of the past. I have been a Hardcore gamer since I got my NES in the mid 80s I have played the hell out of all the classics before they were even classics.


The 360 is only a bit better then the Xbox but the Rev is going to have some really sweet looking games??? I am confused, you are bashing the 360s graph...:error:[/QUOTE]

I never said the 360 games weren't sweet looking even if they only are a bit better than the XBOX stuff. It's probably somewhere around where the Revolution will fall into as well.
 
DS SuXors - PSP RoXors!1!!!!!1

WOOOO!!!

Actually, I'm very impressed with nintendo these days. I just wish they wouldnt of given up on the Gamecube a friggin year ago.
 
[quote name='greendj27']360's are starting to appear in stores more regularly though, so if anything they are BUILDING on that lead, not losing the lead at this point. It's impossible to start losing that lead until the other systems come out.[/QUOTE]

True. I guess I should have said they are missing out on building up their lead.
 
[quote name='spoo']Nintendo please prove me wrong but I am not spending that kind of money @ launch for 4 games in the consoles lifetime like the GCN and N64 again.[/QUOTE]

If you were only able to enjoy 4 games for the GCN and N64 you are not going to like the Revolution.
 
Here's basically the advertising I think Nintendo should go with this time around:

Introducing the Nintendo Revolution: The system you have to buy if you want to play Nintendo franchises. Eat it.
Click to expand...

(Yes, I'm buying one.)
 
[quote name='javeryh']If you were only able to enjoy 4 games for the GCN and N64 you are not going to like the Revolution.[/QUOTE]

Furthermore, if he only bought a Gamecube and 4 Gamecube games, he couldve instead bought a 360 with NO GAMES.

[quote name='shipwreck']Graphics and third-party support will ensure that the Revolution will not challenge the other two systems here in North America. Simply put, you're not going to be able to play the most realistic version of Madden on the Revolution.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think that unless you are in the minority of people who own a fancy TV, the overwhelming and vast majority of people arent going to be able to to tell a significant difference, graphically, between the Revolution version of Madden and any other version. The difference is going to be MUCH less than the XBOX 1 to 360 Madden, and naturally THAT difference is already very small.

Now what WILL distinguish between the different versions of Madden, are the control schemes

HDTV is the future of TV, not the future of gaming. And even then, we're talking distant future.

Ninja Edit: Also, we dont know what the future is of this new platform from a third party perspective. If its as robust as the DS, then we wont be having a problem.
 
The major point I have to disagree with is the "developers are hitting their stride" comment about the PS2, Xbox and GCN.

Developers have blown these machines apart technically. There was nothing left for them to do. The PS2 is going to be going on its 7th holiday season when replaced. The Xbox is maxed as Far Cry and Half Life 2 both demonstrated. The only machine that really doesn't seem to have been maxed is Nintendo's current little diddy. Though I suspect the RE 4 came pretty damn close to maxing it capabilities.

Nintendo is on the verge of greatness again. Not from a technical standpoint but a $200 Revo is going to look a hell of a lot sweeter to people than a $500 PS3 or $400 360 if they know the games and the control concept comes even close to being cool.
 
[quote name='greendj27']360's are starting to appear in stores more regularly though, so if anything they are BUILDING on that lead, not losing the lead at this point. It's impossible to start losing that lead until the other systems come out.[/QUOTE]
my point exactly
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']Actually, I think that unless you are in the minority of people who own a fancy TV, the overwhelming and vast majority of people arent going to be able to to tell a significant difference, graphically, between the Revolution version of Madden and any other version. The difference is going to be MUCH less than the XBOX 1 to 360 Madden, and naturally THAT difference is already very small.

Now what WILL distinguish between the different versions of Madden, are the control schemes

HDTV is the future of TV, not the future of gaming. And even then, we're talking distant future.[/QUOTE]

I think you are wrong here, but I guess time will tell. I don't think the Revo's versions of Madden will be able to come anywhere near close to the graphics in the future X360 and PS3 versions. It just doesn't have the specs the other machines do.
 
[quote name='shipwreck']I think you are wrong here, but I guess time will tell. I don't think the Revo's versions of Madden will be able to come anywhere near close to the graphics in the future X360 and PS3 versions. It just doesn't have the specs the other machines do.[/QUOTE]


I think I agree with you. The 360/PS3 version of, well anything, WILL look significantly better.....ON a high end TV.

My concern is how pronounced the difference will be on the regular Joe Tv that most everyone will be having for what should be the duration of this generation.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I think I agree with you. The 360/PS3 version of, well anything, WILL look significantly better.....ON a high end TV.

My concern is how pronounced the difference will be on the regular Joe Tv that most everyone will be having for what should be the duration of this generation.[/QUOTE]
I guess that will kinda depend on how TV technology progresses over the next few years. If HDTVs get anywhere near the cost where non-HDs are right now in the next couple years, I'll get one for sure. But the point is Nintendo is not going for the audience who goes for graphics above all. And there will certainly be people who can only buy one console and will go for the one with the best graphics. But we've seen just in this thread that people will buy a Rev in addition to the 360 or PS3. And that's where Nintendo has a chance of improving their performance this generation. People won't buy a Rev just for those one or two great first-party games that they want a few years into the system's lifestyle like they did with GameCube. Hopefully. They'll get one early on since it's cheap and will be something new.
 
I'm sure gonna love having to put up infrared sensors all around my TV to make my revolution controller work. Or did they finally nix that idea and decide just to make it seizuretastic with screen flashes. Anybody remember how well the power glove worked? With having to reset your position every 7 seconds? Granted that was triangulation through RF and infrared should have a bit more resolution, but still the sensor problem remains.

Anyone else laughing at the 104 MB of accessable ram that the revolution is supposed to have? That doesn't make for very expansive or immersive worlds. Also the processor and GPUs are almost laughable. Seriously makes me wonder why they don't just make an addon for the cube for the new controller, which is what this thing basically amounts to.

If you think xbox 360 games look like xbox 1.5, I doubt the revolution will even have noticeable improvement. Maybe less aliasing. Maybe. I predict horrible amounts of pop-up on all multi platform games that come to the revolution.

Hope nintendo's gamble pays off though. Some innovation would be nice.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I think I agree with you. The 360/PS3 version of, well anything, WILL look significantly better.....ON a high end TV.

My concern is how pronounced the difference will be on the regular Joe Tv that most everyone will be having for what should be the duration of this generation.[/QUOTE]

I bought my 30" WS HD CRT ($600 on sale) for the price my friend bought a SD 32" CRT ($600 on sale) 5 years ago. You don't have to spend big money on a good HD CRT and get a hell of a gaming/movie TV. On top of that the price is only going to go down from here.
 
[quote name='paz9x']i think that support is even less important with this console.
nintendo continues to push out fantastic games consistanly.
with the game obrary the rev will offer i imagine the console will be very
appealing even if third party support somewhat mirrors that of the cube.

i planned on buying it at launch as well as at least one of the other big 2, however with my backlog ill stick with the rev for a while.[/QUOTE]

You my friend are clueless. If in fact the Revolution gets little to no third party support there is no way in hell it can succeed. Look at the 'Cube you get at most 5 good games a year. Don't get me wrong I like what nintendo is doing but they have to get support from the EA/Rockstar's of the world.
 
[quote name='spoo']I would love to get excited over the Rev but I am sick of all the hype from the Big N then only to be disapointed with the home consoles since N64. Nintendo please prove me wrong but I am not spending that kind of money @ launch for 4 games in the consoles lifetime like the GCN and N64 again.
Also I have a HD TV and it is a kick in the face to have no HD support. The Rev seems more like an add on then a new console. And am I the only one that is sick of buying/playing the Nintendo games of the past. I have been a Hardcore gamer since I got my NES in the mid 80s I have played the hell out of all the classics before they were even classics.

[/QUOTE]

You have a good point given that you played the classics and were satisfied. Still I started gaming at the end of the Super Nes, so I missed out on alot of good games and didn't have alot of money in the N64 era so I missed out on alot. Basically it's time to play all those sweet games I've only heard about but never touched.
 
I really wouldnt bring rumored specs into this. They generally get disproven at least logically pretty quick. I think there are other threads that already detail why rumored specs have thus far been bogus, so I dont really feel like getting into that.

As is stands, I think the vast majority of people who have actually gotten hands on time with the Revolution only have exceedingly positive things to say, unless they work for Sony or MS.

On the same note. The vast majority of criticism of the Revolution comes from people who HAVENT NOT TOUCHED THE THING, or work for Sony or MS.

[quote name='"Scott Miller, CEO - 3dRealms"'] "Perhaps this will be the last console from [Nintendo]."[/quote]

[quote name='"Also Scott Miller"'] "I cannot comment on the Revolution's controller until I try one,"[/quote]
 
I am not trying to start any system flame wars, on that note;

I am sick of hearing this from Big N fans[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']On the same note. The vast majority of criticism of the Revolution comes from people who HAVENT NOT TOUCHED THE THING, or work for Sony or MS.[/QUOTE]
Have you touched the "thing"? This argument goes both ways. Why is ok to praise something you haven't experience but it is not ok to bash?
 
What was the technology that the Rev is supposedly going to have graphically? Wasn't there a buzz over textures (bump mapping?) I can't remember exactly, but isn't it possible that the graphics could be on par with the other two systems (minues support above 480p)?
 
[quote name='thagoat']ps3 won't make the same mistakes at launch. they'll have plenty of systems available. so kiss your ebay pipe dreams goodbye![/QUOTE]

i dont know if someone answered this already but after the markup on DS systems and the shortage there everyone said the same for the 360 and look at what happened.
 
Rev should at least have 480p, which isn't terrible.

The real concern of Nintendo fanboys should be the rumored lack of RAM. That, more than the controller, lack of high resolutions, and weaker processors will keep the third party developers away.
 
[quote name='magikman']What was the technology that the Rev is supposedly going to have graphically? Wasn't there a buzz over textures (bump mapping?) I can't remember exactly, but isn't it possible that the graphics could be on par with the other two systems (minues support above 480p)?[/QUOTE]

Nowhere near possible. They can try all the different graphics tricks they want, but the 360 and PS3 can use the same tricks and are already vastly more powerful (both cpu and gpu wise). There's a reason Nintendo is going to charge less for their system.
 
well if you go with that logic, you could also say no one here can comment on how great it will be, as no one has touched it. I will most likely pick one up at launch, but I barely have touched my cube, and the amount of games I have for it is about 1/3rd to 1/4th of what I have for my ps2 and xbox. It comes down to nintendo making good first party games on a regular basis, not 1 a year. And for third parties to make either solid ports with functionality of the rev controller, or solid exclusive titles.
 
I accept the following:

Out of the group of people who have played around with it
a) nearly all of them have good things to say
b) there is almost no outspoken negative criticism.

Therefore, if you trust those people, until we do get our hands on it, I would be quicker to reference their praise than to cite the negative things coming from people with no first hand experience.

I think that is fair.
 
[quote name='Dr Mario Kart']I accept the following:

Out of the group of people who have played around with it
a) nearly all of them have good things to say
b) there is almost no outspoken negative criticism.

Therefore, if you trust those people, until we do get our hands on it, I would be quicker to reference their praise than to cite the negative things coming from people with no first hand experience.

I think that is fair.[/QUOTE]

Yet its ok for people to bash the PS3 for being too expensive even though they have never played it?

The point is no one knows if the system will be good or bad until more info is released, so people who criticize the Revolution are as right as the people saying the Revolution will be great.
 
Does anyone know how big of a clarity difference there is between Progressive Scan and High Definition?

Personally, I was perfectly happy playing Resident Evil 4 in Progressive Scan on my PS2 and think anything more that would increase cost may be more than I personally need.
 
[quote name='ryanbph']I don't see how you can ask to not make this a console bashing thread, when you are taking shots at the other companies in your argument. I guess I have no fucking clue what you mean when you say the leat that the xbox 360 has is slowly fading. First off there is no competition for it in the next gen market, so the lead isn't fading, as no one is gaining ground. [/QUOTE]

ryanbph

This is just one example of Microsoft "losing ground" you are correct in saying no one is gaining. Maybe even more correct than you realize... I read the OP's comment as Microsofts potential lead is getting smaller.

The exact same thing happened with the dreamcast. In my opinion it would be very close graphically to the PS2 if development would have continued but thats another topic.

The point being that people who would have jumped all over a 360 may now wait (in March when they are potentially more readily available) for the next system.

More and more hype is building for the other machines and a lot of people may wait for a 360 price drop and then be sucked into the hype of the next machine.

So with that being said heres the link of my take on Microsoft "Losing ground"

http://www.gametab.com/news/478712/

Do I believe it... no not really but someone somewhere does and thats what Sony wants.
 
personally, I think most people who own a console can't afford HD gaming anway, so I can't see why Sony/M$ think it's the future.

Ever since Nintendo started to shift their focus on more creative properties (ie. the launch of DS) they have automaticly gained my respect.

In the next two years my sisters and I plan on working on a huge art project invloving development on the Revolution and then displaying it in various art gallerys. We are also considering the DS since development will be alot cheaper. In some ways Nintendo is really attracting people in the creative realms of our modern world and keep it in a package everyone can seem to agree on.
 
[quote name='Ecofreak']Does anyone know how big of a clarity difference there is between Progressive Scan and High Definition?[/QUOTE]

Going from 480p to 1080i is like going from black & white TV to color. It's that drastic.
 
[quote name='greendj27']Yet its ok for people to bash the PS3 for being too expensive even though they have never played it?

The point is no one knows if the system will be good or bad until more info is released, so people who criticize the Revolution are as right as the people saying the Revolution will be great.[/QUOTE]

What kind of comparison is that?

In the gaming world things are getting to expensive or outside our realm of "normal" It has nothing to do with us playing it. If it is even as good as sony claims (and historically they have always overclaimed) then its not worth $500+ to me. And I mean it is basically a hotter looking gaming system.

That doesnt mean I wouldnt want one or it wouldnt be fun.

The people who have criticized it NEVER touched or played it.... so for them its "unreleased"

The people who have praised it have played a prototype (normally things are improved upon from prototypes) and they ALL liked it.

So no its not the same. Unless you have a link of someone who played it and DID not like it for the most part?
 
[quote name='Snake2715']What kind of comparison is that?

In the gaming world things are getting to expensive or outside our realm of "normal" It has nothing to do with us playing it. If it is even as good as sony claims (and historically they have always overclaimed) then its not worth $500+ to me.

That doesnt mean I wouldnt want one or it wouldnt be fun.

The people who have criticized it NEVER touched or played it.... so for them its "unreleased"

The people who have praised it have played a prototype (normally things are improved upon from prototypes) and they ALL liked it.

So no its not the same. Unless you have a link of someone who played it and DID not like it for the most part?[/QUOTE]

You completely missed my point. The point is you've never played the PS3 and therefore according to Dr Mario Kart can't criticize it. I didn't use the 360 because people have played that. Also, no one knows if the price of the PS3 is gong to be over $500. We won't know for awhile, but you don't seem to mind criticizing that system without ever having touched it yourself.

Basically I just get annoyed when someone throws out the "you haven't played it so you can't criticize it arguement." Face it, we haven't heard anything negative about the PS3 at this point in time either, but the OP is ok with criticizing that to make his point. Why should it be any different with the Revolution?
 
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