Did our company spill nuclear waste then lie about it under oath? Our bad.

Harumph harumph deregulation and competition.

Those people left from the nuclear fallout will simply switch energy providers, and the invisible hand of the free market will reign supreme!
 
It's okay, when the lack of proper regulation destroys the entire planet, customers can just vote with their wallet and move to a different one.
 
[quote name='willardhaven']It's okay, when the lack of proper regulation destroys the entire planet, customers can just vote with their wallet and move to a different one.[/QUOTE]

God bless the free market!
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Nuclear power is safe. It has always been safe. It will always be safe. Never question this or else.[/QUOTE]

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[quote name='dmaul1114']God bless the free market![/QUOTE]

Exactly. Nobody has ever died from radiation. Even if somebody was slightly injured from radiation, money would fix it.
 
Punish the company to the maximum extent allowed by law.

Now, what about all that nuclear radiation our wonderful government *deliberately* blasted over Japan?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Now, what about all that nuclear radiation our wonderful government *deliberately* blasted over Japan?[/QUOTE]

you're right. exactly the same.
 
Anyone else read the cursing thread and think "hey maybe liberal CAGs wouldn't curse so much if Bob just stopped posting"?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Not the same at all.

Worse, I'd say.[/QUOTE]

I spilled a glass of water on my floor and didn't move my dog out of the kitchen.

I know what hurricane katrina was like now.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']I spilled a glass of water on my floor and didn't move my dog out of the kitchen.

I know what hurricane katrina was like now.[/QUOTE]

Sure, Mr. Hoekstra.

These guys lied under oath and should have the book thrown at them for that, no question. However, the amount of radiation that leaked was an incredibly small amount that could never realistically harm anyone. It's another scare story about nuclear power, the same scare stories that make people so crazy about Three Mile Island (where failsafes functioned effectively and there was no danger at all) and unwilling to accept more nuclear power and breeder reactors, which could have reduced our oil problem long ago.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Sure, Mr. Hoekstra.

These guys lied under oath and should have the book thrown at them for that, no question. However, the amount of radiation that leaked was an incredibly small amount that could never realistically harm anyone. It's another scare story about nuclear power, the same scare stories that make people so crazy about Three Mile Island (where failsafes functioned effectively and there was no danger at all) and unwilling to accept more nuclear power and breeder reactors, which could have reduced our oil problem long ago.[/QUOTE]

Hear, Hear!

And we'll figure out what to do with the nuclear waste ... eventually.

And we'll replace oil with uranium over the resource we kill millions or billions to secure.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']And we'll replace oil with uranium over the resource we kill millions or billions to secure.[/QUOTE]
...
I should probably move, then...
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Something isn't right about that guy. I'd wave a geiger counter at him.[/QUOTE]
FoC, do you think everyone is a tranny?
 
[quote name='The Crotch']FoC, do you think everyone is a tranny?[/QUOTE]

Only the one who set off the Trannydar.

As a sidenote, I went into the Gaydar Station while evading the cops in San Andreas. Stupid cop for standing next to the car when I was shooting its gas tank.

BTW, I had a lot of fun launching rockets at Ryder's getaway boats. So much easier than chasing him.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Hear, Hear!

And we'll figure out what to do with the nuclear waste ... eventually.

And we'll replace oil with uranium over the resource we kill millions or billions to secure.[/QUOTE]

Nuclear waste is a relatively small problem compared to fossil fuels. Fossil fuels produce air pollution (especially coal), and of course oil causes geopolitical complications. Nuclear is tailor-made to provide cover while economic renewables are developed.
 
http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/0...slashdot+(Slashdot)&utm_content=Google+Reader

"Following the Vermont Senate's 26-to-4 vote not to approve a 20-year license extension for the Vermont Yankee nuclear power plant, the Vermont Public Service Board will consider revoking its operating license as well. Meanwhile, the plant continues to operate without its Director of Nuclear Safety Assurance, who has been placed on administrative leave; the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has merely issued a Demand for Information rather than shutting down a plant that is lacking a full complement of safety personnel. It may be that the NRC is not capable of doing what is needed with regard to Entergy, the plant owner, which is also facing prosecution by the Mississippi Attorney General."
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[quote name='elprincipe']Nuclear waste is a relatively small problem compared to fossil fuels. Fossil fuels produce air pollution (especially coal), and of course oil causes geopolitical complications. Nuclear is tailor-made to provide cover while economic renewables are developed.[/QUOTE]

Chernobyl fa la la la la.

I know it would never happen here, but it damn near happened in Sweden and damn near happened again in Russia at this place called Chernobyl.

Radiation doesn't respect lines drawn on a map. Carbon dioxide doesn't either, but a houseplant can remove it.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Chernobyl fa la la la la.

I know it would never happen here, but it damn near happened in Sweden and damn near happened again in Russia at this place called Chernobyl.

Radiation doesn't respect lines drawn on a map. Carbon dioxide doesn't either, but a houseplant can remove it.[/QUOTE]

You should read in the latest National Geographic about mini-nuclear power plants that can last 30 years without refueling and can't meltdown. Definitely something you'd be interested in.
 
Don't nuclear power plants release an incredible amount of water vapor from the cooling towers? Because despite what we usually hear on the news, water vapor is actually the bigger green house gas.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']You should read in the latest National Geographic about mini-nuclear power plants that can last 30 years without refueling and can't meltdown. Definitely something you'd be interested in.[/QUOTE]

I'll click the link if you provide it.

Otherwise ...

1. Are we building these mininukular plants?

2. Is the cost/kWh for those 30 years greater or less than the cost/kWh for those >80 years a solar array would produce energy or the ~20 years a wind turbine would produce energy?

3. Is there any nuclear waste after these plants stop working and is there a plan to store it?

4. Are the costs associated with 3 include in the calculation of 2?
 
I'd like to think humankind is capable of coming up with power solutions that are:

1. Not nuclear.

2. Not coal.

3. Renewable and clean.

I mean if they can cram all of that graham into Golden Grahams, this should be easy.
 
To heavily edit a Barack Obama quote, the desire to create non nuclear, non coal, renewable, clean jobs is rarely enough to achieve it.
 
Find me a quote from someone who isn't interested in maintaining the status quo. Seriously though, just because it seems unlikely doesn't mean it isn't worth pursuing. Imagine what will happen financially to the country or corporation that masters clean energy first.
 
Barack Obama wasn't exactly the maintain status quo guy I thought he was the hopey changey fella. I could've been brainwashed by the mainstream media though.

I never said it was worth pursuing, but hope isn't enough.
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']I'll click the link if you provide it.

Otherwise ...

1. Are we building these mininukular plants?

2. Is the cost/kWh for those 30 years greater or less than the cost/kWh for those >80 years a solar array would produce energy or the ~20 years a wind turbine would produce energy?

3. Is there any nuclear waste after these plants stop working and is there a plan to store it?

4. Are the costs associated with 3 include in the calculation of 2?[/QUOTE]

A quick search did not yield the article (I read the print version). But this article talks about it:

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/theg...ing-down-nuclear-it-only-takes-a-village.aspx

Sure, the waste is a problem. But it's a small problem compared to those associated with other realistic options, and one that we can store safely until we find an ultimate solution to it (recycling, dumping it into the sun, or whatever we end up wanting to do to get rid of it). Of course, if busybodies would get of the way and allow breeder reactors, we'd have 90% less waste.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Sure, the waste is a problem. But it's a small problem compared to those associated with other realistic options, and one that we can store safely until we find an ultimate solution to it (recycling, dumping it into the sun, or whatever we end up wanting to do to get rid of it).[/QUOTE]

To be fair, this sounds a lot like our National Debt problems... Wonder if we could just dump that into the sun?
 
[quote name='UncleBob']To be fair, this sounds a lot like our National Debt problems... Wonder if we could just dump that into the sun?[/QUOTE]

LOL...not really things you can conflate. Unless, of course, you were suggesting we dump our politicians (and especially political party power structures) into the sun. That would do much to alleviate the debt problem.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']LOL...not really things you can conflate. Unless, of course, you were suggesting we dump our politicians (and especially political party power structures) into the sun. That would do much to alleviate the debt problem.[/QUOTE]

Can we strap them to the outside of the rocket? :D
 
[quote name='fatherofcaitlyn']Exactly. Nobody has ever died from radiation. Even if somebody was slightly injured from radiation, money would fix it.[/QUOTE]

Does dying from cancer from radiation count?
 
I'm going to be a Negative Nelly.

[quote name='elprincipe']Sure, the waste is a problem. But it's a small problem compared to those associated with other realistic options, and one that we can store safely until we find an ultimate solution to it (recycling, dumping it into the sun, or whatever we end up wanting to do to get rid of it). Of course, if busybodies would get of the way and allow breeder reactors, we'd have 90% less waste.[/QUOTE]

1. If nuclear waste could be recycled, it would be recycled. There is 50 years of it already and more of it being created daily.

2. Moving nuclear waste usually isn't calculated into its cost per kWh. If it was, solar, wind and geothermal would look better.

3. I'm a fan of breeder reactors, but the US isn't a fan of them. So, there is a chance the US and another other country pursuing nuclear power will build anything other than breeder reactors. Waste levels go up and uranium reserves keep circling the drain.

4. Not everybody has electricity, but everybody wants it. If the US pursues nuclear power, the rest of the world will follow our lead. If you have 5 to 10 times as many people using nuclear plants to have something similar to our standard of living, you have 50% to 1000% of the nuclear waste of today. Of course, achieving the 50% requires the US to enforce the production of only breeder reactors on the rest of the world. That means more endless wars and occupations.

Sorry. We can't afford nuclear power.
 
[quote name='UncleBob']Can we strap them to the outside of the rocket? :D[/QUOTE]

I know you are kidding but think about what you are saying. :cool:
 
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