Do you ever wish someone would die?

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Not talking about famous people who you don't know, but people who you know from day to day life but just despise. Be it that they're cruel, liars, thieves, whatever. Do you ever seriously wish they would die, or simply don't care if they died.

Myself, I can't say I know anyone like that now, but in high school there were 2 people who I just wanted gone, I didn't really care how. I wouldn't have said I wanted them to die, but I wouldn't have been unhappy if they did. I did wish one of them some torment though.
 
i dont wish for death but i do wish karma on the jerk who ran me off the road and destroyed my fender and bumper...i hope life tortures that stupid fuck to hell
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Uh, no? Cause, you know, that's insane and all?[/QUOTE]

I'm not known for my sanity.

But, what if you're married with a daughter and one of your close friends decides your wife is hot and he has to have her. He does everything possible to seduce her and, finally, he succeeds. Your wife divorces you and takes your kid away from you and goes to marry your friend, but after a month of marriage your friend becomes abusive, is found cheating on your ex wife and divorces her, deciding he can't stand having to raise a kid.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Excuse me, but is this thread asking "What situation would make you wish someone dead?" No, I'm afraid it isn't (your hypothetical situation is lame, anyway). It's asking HAVE YOU. Thus far into my life, I'm mentally stable enough as to where I wouldn't want anyone around me dead.

Oh, and to the kid below me: cute. Try harder next time, Mr. Scary Internet Man.[/QUOTE]

You said that it never happened because you were mentally stable, so I presented a hypothetical situation to argue against that.

Though, as for lame, you haven't ventured into many OTT's have you?
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']
And really, I don't intend to enterain further hypothetics, so go bother someone else about what would drive them to such hateful extremes.[/quote]

:rofl: I have no idea why, but after reading your entire post it has made me laugh.

Though, I don't see how I'm bothering you, considering you did click my topic, and you did type a response all of your own free will.

Also, unlike some people seem to think, there are people who, no matter what, would never wish harm or death upon another:

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I hope I don't have to explain what that is.


I think you do. This is the dalai lama:
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The other one looks nothing like him.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']I'm guessing it was because you realized what a brick wall you'd hit.

Also, where did I say that was the Dalai Lama? It's just a good ol' fashioned, at-peace-with-the-world Buddhist monk. Unfortunatly, I can't count on everyone to know that these days. I actually have always had a couple little quibbles with the Dalai Lama (as I do with most leaders), so I went with a standard monk. ;)[/QUOTE]

You made it sound like you were referring to a particular person, I have no idea how good of a monk that buddhist monk is. Maybe he's fighting hidden desires (like priests struggle against pornography). He could be the monk from hell, raping little boys, just like those pedophile priests, for all I know.
 
This conversation is getting insane.

Wishing death upon somebody is pretty far out there, too.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Again with the hypothetics. ;) You seem to have a knack for the bad side of things....well, this thread's borin'. Bye-bye.[/QUOTE]

Just out of curiosity, you're not chunk's second name, are you?
 
I would, except that death is a release, not a punishment.

A punishment is "dying" as long as you dont actually die.
Or just being alive, thats a punishment.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Again with the hypothetics. ;) You seem to have a knack for the bad side of things....well, this thread's borin'. Bye-bye.[/QUOTE]

For someone who claims to wish avoiding these type of topics, you seem to keep coming back... I think you have some unresolved issues you haven't dealt yet.
 
ive wished some people would die...not that id like them to be tortured or any thing...just that, if their time were to come sooner than later...id be happier

id never wish torture or anyone...unless they did anything to hurt children or harmless animals....if they've done that, its open season on pool-sticks in the ass

but as far as this whole topic goes...it' a case by case basis.....i can think of many situations that would make someone wish someone else would die...i can also think of many situations that would make someone do the killing....i can also think of many situations that would make someone laugh while doing the killing....it all depends on just how rough someone has it and how badly that person deserves to die....im talking extreme stuff though, of course....nothing like being cut off or stepping on my err force 1s...for that, you just get punched
 
Here's 6,830 people I wish would die, though I don't know them:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002239863_cats13.html

I'm appaled at killing either pet or feral cats, and until a few hours ago the concept of possible laws like this were beyond me. It just wasn't something I could comprehend as even a remote possibility in this country. There are multiple cats on my street that are pets, that could be shot, and none of them are feral. Most indoor/outdoor cats run off and aren't friendly when approached by strangers. Besides, anyone really believe that someone who wants to shoot them is going to take the time to see if its friendly and has a collar? And what about indoor cats who escape? My cat got out about 4 times, none of it intentional. And again, all those stupid people who think cats should be able to roam outdoors (ask any vet and they strongly warn against it) would risk having them shot.
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Actually, no, I avoid the OTTs, by and large. Now, moving on.

I've never wanted as such because, quite frankly, no one has made anywhere near a great enough trespass against me to warrent such grave feelings from me (worth noting is my belief that feelings of hatred hurt the hater more than the hatee). Sure, there are hypothetical situations, but they are NOT what we are talking about.[/QUOTE]

So you are fortunate in that no one has spurned one in an unfashionable term such as child abuse, rape, murder, unjustified death, etc. The question at hand is wishing someone death, not whether you were caring out that wish or have it cared out. It's just a thought. A billion random thoughts pass through my head, regardless of their morality. Morality is only an issue when thoughts of immorality are made incarnate. Yes, I have wished someone dead - not once have I cared it out. There are consequences to actions so it is logic, not emotion that guides me. Sure, I have hatred but I don't let it overwhelm me. It is through rational understanding of the world around me that I am able to moral. Strange? Not really. Rationally, it is given in the society we currently live in that were you to kill someone, you would pay the consequences - jail, vengence by a relative of the wronged party, or simple karmic balancing.

[quote name='CoffeeEdge'] My original comment was perhaps a criticism of a feeling I see held by many youth: the idea that they wish people dead over petty little things...parents trying to raise them, girl/boyfriends that leave them, things like that. I think that such feelings, over such things, are crazy. That's what I meant to say.[/QUOTE]

Then why didn't you say that exactly? The way you said it made it sound like you were speaking of personal experience - that you spoke for all of us.

[quote name='CoffeeEdge'] Hypothetics are pointless. They are bridges not crossed, and that by many, will never be crossed. A situation like the one you outlined will befall so few people, that I see it pointless to consider. Though I'll do this.[/QUOTE]

How are hypothetics pointless? Without hypothetics we would not have philosophy, invention, and ingenuity. Do you think Edison would have invented the lightbulb without conceptualization of the idea of a lightbulb? Or Ford thinking of a better way to get around instead of using a horse cart? Or yes, if the Devil himself, Bill Gates didn't buy back his technology so he could develop it the way he wanted? Regardless of the morbidity of the question, hypothetics, I must disagree, are NOT pointless.

[quote name='CoffeeEdge'] Let's say that that situation you described befell me. Now, if I have the power to simply wish someone dead, I suppose that I have the power to wish for other things, too. In that case, I would wish for peace for this "friend" of mine, and for the hatred that lead him to his acts to be lifted from him. I would like to leave him a better person, for those involved to be where they want to be (who does the girl/children want to live with, if anyone? I would let here decide), and to get on with things. And while I'm at it, I'd like to make the world a perfect place (no war, hunger, hate, violence, pollution, etc). :D And if I don't have such wish powers...then I guess I will have to rely on the law. ;) [/QUOTE]

The question only asked if you ever wished someone dead. It did not ask 'if you had wishing powers what would you do with them?' Case in point, the ability to wish someone dead does not preclude the idea that you can wish for anything else. And if you were to rely on the law all the time, you would most definitely start wishing someone dead. It was THE LAW at one point during WWII that US citizens who were ethnically Japanese were held in internment camps. For what? For BEING Japanese. Even when the government had no reason to lock them. They were becoming almost as bad as the Nazis! A formal apology hasn't even been given to those ppl until earlier this year! It was THE LAW at one point in which it was legal for another man to own another man as a pet to do hard manual labor. Even after it was abolished, ppl still told these ppl that you were 'separate but equal'. That's bullshit talk into suggesting that they were free when in fact they were lingering resentment from both sides. If you even want to try the Dalai Lama route, let's see. It was THE LAW that said that he was a dissenter trying to cause mayhem and destruction when he preached non-violent protest at the Chinese government. Irrespective of his divinity, he just voiced his opinion and they threw him out of the country! There's justice and there's the law. They're not always the same thing. Fact of the matter is, there won't be such a thing as total peace because there is always someone who will be dissatisfied with how things are done. Fortunately, it is also in the human capacity for compassion that there won't also be such a thing as total war. Even the atrocities of the World Wars didn't touch the whole world. Most of it but not all.

[quote name='CoffeeEdge'] And really, I don't intend to enterain further hypothetics, so go bother someone else about what would drive them to wanting others dead.[/QUOTE]

Except you respond several times after this particular post suggests otherwise so obviously you're still bothered.

[quote name='CoffeeEdge'] Also, unlike some people seem to think, there are people who, no matter what, would never wish harm or death upon another:

monk2cn.jpg


I hope I don't have to explain what that is.[/QUOTE]

Even using a picture of a Buddhist monk doesn't negate thought. How naive of you to think that just because they are trying to break the cycle of rebirth and achieve nirvana doesn't mean that a stray thought (of hatred or love) can't possibly enter their mind. Dharma is still something to be observed and practiced but it doesn't mean they can stop their own thoughts.
 
[quote name='alonzomourning23']Here's 6,830 people I wish would die, though I don't know them:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002239863_cats13.html

I'm appaled at killing either pet or feral cats, and until a few hours ago the concept of possible laws like this were beyond me. It just wasn't something I could comprehend as even a remote possibility in this country. There are multiple cats on my street that are pets, that could be shot, and none of them are feral. Most indoor/outdoor cats run off and aren't friendly when approached by strangers. Besides, anyone really believe that someone who wants to shoot them is going to take the time to see if its friendly and has a collar? And what about indoor cats who escape? My cat got out about 4 times, none of it intentional. And again, all those stupid people who think cats should be able to roam outdoors (ask any vet and they strongly warn against it) would risk having them shot.[/QUOTE]

Well, let me ask you a few questions then. Are you a vegetarian or vegan? If you're not, this may not apply to you. Why do cats have advocates and creatures such as prairie dogs and platypuses (or is it platypi?) have less publicity? Is it because cats are cute and prairie dogs are not? Is it because cats are a generally accepted form of pet in contrast to exotics such as prairie dogs? You must answer those questions before wishing for those people's genocide. I've had dogmeat before, visiting family in Asia. Not the greatest I'll admit but it made me think about why certain animals are favored while others are not. Logically speaking those cat hunters are just trying to thin the herd so that the population is managable. People may think that's cruel but what if it was a pride of lions of the same number in the same area? I don't know about you, but I'd be buying those guys spare bullets (loathe though I am to firearms) to make sure that if those lions aren't put down with tranqs, then they better make sure that the lethal force they will employ will be enough.
 
[quote name='jaykrue']Well, let me ask you a few questions then. Are you a vegetarian or vegan? If you're not, this may not apply to you. Why do cats have advocates and creatures such as prairie dogs and platypuses (or is it platypi?) have less publicity? Is it because cats are cute and prairie dogs are not? Is it because cats are a generally accepted form of pet in contrast to exotics such as prairie dogs? You must answer those questions before wishing for those people's genocide. I've had dogmeat before, visiting family in Asia. Not the greatest I'll admit but it made me think about why certain animals are favored while others are not. Logically speaking those cat hunters are just trying to thin the herd so that the population is managable. People may think that's cruel but what if it was a pride of lions of the same number in the same area? I don't know about you, but I'd be buying those guys spare bullets (loathe though I am to firearms) to make sure that if those lions aren't put down with tranqs, then they better make sure that the lethal force they will employ will be enough.[/QUOTE]

It isn't that Pairie Dogs aren't cute, just that they present a different problem and different solutions. Like the Prairie Dog Vacuum that sucks them out of their burrows and harmlessly deposits them in a holding tank until they can be freed in an open wilderness area or sold as raptor food, which is often their natural role.

http://www.cnn.com/EARTH/9612/16/sucking.dogs/

Overbreeding cats in an urban environment present another level of difficulty. Those who cannot deal with the consequences of an uncontrolled pet population shouldn't own any pets themselves or they'll probably make things worse.
 
[quote name='epobirs']Overbreeding cats in an urban environment present another level of difficulty. Those who cannot deal with the consequences of an uncontrolled pet population shouldn't own any pets themselves or they'll probably make things worse.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Any unregulated population can be bad. Too many herbivores and you have a natural deforestation. Too many predators and you have a natural localized extinction event. But it's a 'feel good' society we live in not a practical one :bomb:
 
While I do wish people dead, I think a prolonged life of pain is more than sufficient. Robert Novak doesn't deserve to die, but he does deserve to get kicked in his bad hip with some steel-toed boots every hour, on the hour.

Except for Fred Phelps. He needs to die. Real fuckin' bad, too.
Robert Mugabe is much higher on the "needs" to die list.

In my own life (that is, people I encounter)? I dunno, there are a lot of stupid people. Few deserve to die, though.

myke.
...can't say I've never wished it upon them, though.
 
God forgive me, but I contemplated the thought in the 3rd & 4 th grade with the class bully! He was a cliché, big, massive a$$hole that got his kicks pickin' on us skinny, scrawny guys. I actually thought he should die or something back then.

i regret thinking that now.
 
I was in someones front yard with a shotgun once, calling him on my cell telling him to look outside....

But I thought against it and dont own any guns now.
 
I've definitely wished death on people - but only those I've loved like a sick grandparent where you know they are better off and the quality of life just isn't there anymore. As for wishing death on people around me? Um, no - the world is a big enough place and if I don't like someone I just don't interact with that person...
 
I try not to wish death upon Peter Angelos, owner of the Baltimore Orioles, but it's a losing fight. Besides him, I only wish death upon the truly horrible, rapists, murderers, and terrorists
 
[quote name='CoffeeEdge']Also, unlike some people seem to think, there are people who, no matter what, would never wish harm or death upon another:

monk2cn.jpg
[/QUOTE]

And that's why they don't have a country.

I keed, I keed...
 
there these 2 families on my block , they do nothing but make life miserable. Their kids are bad and they're just not clean, i dont necesssarily need death but i would like for them to go FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR away.
 
Can I vote multiple times since I want to kill many people?

I don't like stupid people, or people without commonsense, or people that doesn't even no how 2 speke or tipe... So... I'm going to need about 1-3 billion more votes.
 
I've almost wished death upon someone, but I realized that I was being petty and it was pointless "wishing" for it. I was but a young, stupid school kid back then, and I knew that I would eventually realize the wrong of my thoughts.
 
[quote name='mykevermin']While I do wish people dead, I think a prolonged life of pain is more than sufficient. Robert Novak doesn't deserve to die, but he does deserve to get kicked in his bad hip with some steel-toed boots every hour, on the hour.

Except for Fred Phelps. He needs to die. Real fuckin' bad, too.
Robert Mugabe is much higher on the "needs" to die list.

In my own life (that is, people I encounter)? I dunno, there are a lot of stupid people. Few deserve to die, though.

myke.
...can't say I've never wished it upon them, though.[/QUOTE]


I saw Fred Phelps make a speech outside the DNC, he's a real psycho. When people walk around carrying signs saying "thank god for 9/11", you know they're a little insane. Check his website, he's glad the tsunamai killed all those people, particularly swedes.

Well, let me ask you a few questions then. Are you a vegetarian or vegan? If you're not, this may not apply to you. Why do cats have advocates and creatures such as prairie dogs and platypuses (or is it platypi?) have less publicity? Is it because cats are cute and prairie dogs are not? Is it because cats are a generally accepted form of pet in contrast to exotics such as prairie dogs? You must answer those questions before wishing for those people's genocide. I've had dogmeat before, visiting family in Asia. Not the greatest I'll admit but it made me think about why certain animals are favored while others are not. Logically speaking those cat hunters are just trying to thin the herd so that the population is managable. People may think that's cruel but what if it was a pride of lions of the same number in the same area? I don't know about you, but I'd be buying those guys spare bullets (loathe though I am to firearms) to make sure that if those lions aren't put down with tranqs, then they better make sure that the lethal force they will employ will be enough.


There is a different reaction in different circumstances, and its partially based on whether it is percieved as an advancement in animal rights (ie. cutting down on killing lions), or a major step back (shooting domestic cats). If I was in certain countries that ate dog I'd be revolted and wouldn't go anywhere near those restaurants or markets, and likely think negatively of those who did (really couldn't help it to an extent, but the logical side I'd control), but I wouldn't hate them since it's just part of their culture (though I know vietnam has made it illegal, it's not very popular among youth and those who do eat it tend to be older). Now if I'm in a country that treats dogs like they do in the u.s., or anything close (like Japan), then I would apply the same standard as I would to u.s. people eating dog or cat. It's being realistic over when and where I can apply certain standards.

Though, for the type of animals being mentioned here I'm a vegetarian, but not completely. I'm moving closer and closer though, and at this point I only eat shrimp and salmon, not other kind of meat. I also only by free run chicken eggs because it's more humane.

Though I have a problem with hunters to begin with, the cat just makes it worse. It would be different if they needed to do it for food, but they don't, and they're not even going to use cats for food at all, it's just to kill. The fact that people know they could be shooting someones pet, either a cat that escaped or one that is allowed to run outside, is sickening. It also would likely make it more difficult to prosecute animal cruelty against cats, since I doubt they're going to pay much attention to someone shooting their own cat (or other forms of killing), at least they'd get some attention in most other states (ranging from fines to some jail) for doing that.

Though other animals have advocates, the difference is one group is listened to more than the others. When people can look on the floor and see that the type of pet they have an emotional bond with may risk being shot, people take more notice. If my cat ran away (or dog, since I no longer have a cat), I am concerned about it getting run over, lost, or killed by a raccoon or something. I have no concern over whether someones going to kill it, in fact I hope someone finds it since people often keep strays, or call their owners if they have tags. Now people have to worry whether someones going to shoot it.

I don't like the way other animals are treated, and I almost bought a prarie dog as a pet until I realized how they were caught and that they weren't raised in captivity. It's just the average person doesn't care, the advocates are still there though, spend some time on rmca or a rat club website and you'll see people are just as angry about using rats for food, it's just that other people often don't care.

Besides, if you want to stop overbreeding set up a program to tranquilize and neuter the cats (some areas already do this), and require domestic cats to be neutered unless you have a breeding license.
 
I can't say I've ever wished someone would die. If that sounds too Boy Scoutish, sorry, but it's the truth. That's why I'm anti-abortion and anti-death penalty.**

**not wanting to get in a flame war on either subject, please.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']I can't say I've ever wished someone would die. If that sounds too Boy Scoutish, sorry, but it's the truth. That's why I'm anti-abortion and anti-death penalty.**

**not wanting to get in a flame war on either subject, please.[/QUOTE]

Then edit out the anti-abortion part and I'm sure your ass will be quite safe, oh and you'd better go deposit those sperm in your wife's belly no reason to waste millions of potential lives.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Then edit out the anti-abortion part and I'm sure your ass will be quite safe, oh and you'd better go deposit those sperm in your wife's belly no reason to waste millions of potential lives.[/QUOTE]

He said he had no interest in a flame war. What's the point of posting these ridiculous snide comments? And not to get dragged into this myself, but I think there's a difference between killing sperm (which do not become a human life on their own) and a fertilized egg (which will become a human being).
 
[quote name='Pylis']He said he had no interest in a flame war. What's the point of posting these ridiculous snide comments? And not to get dragged into this myself, but I think there's a difference between killing sperm (which do not become a human life on their own) and a fertilized egg (which will become a human being).[/QUOTE]

Firstly, hes zion, he doesn't know how to not be snide. Secondly, until that egg is out of the womb, its technically a parasite. I don't feel bad about tearing leeches off my ass.
 
this world is overpopulated thats why china, though poor and communist, has a good system

parasite, now thats a nasty sounding word, reminds me of that rockos modern life mini show about the ringworm, nasty stuff
 
Should I make a list...

Bush
Kerry
Kennedy
The rest of the politions.
All Popes
The "leaders" of most African countries.
The "presidents" of Cuba, China, North Korea, Iran, and many more I can't remember.
Many of the people here.
Most everyone in the Nintendo forums on ANY site. (Crazy fuckers)

Forgot one...

Madden - Anyone from the New England area will understand why.
Oh and also in the New England area, priests, no need for them.
 
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