Dowd, the perfect liberal defender

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Maureen Down, the ultra-liberal columnist appeared on the ultra-liberal keith olberman's show on Thursday to espouse her platform that democrats' lying makes people feel good, but republicans' lie just to get people killed :

http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2006/cyb20060127.asp#3

Dowd then got her chance to compliment Clinton's style of deception: "No, they're two entirely different things because when Bill Clinton would deceive, he would throw in a semantic clue that let you know he was deceiving. 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman.' We knew what he meant by that. You know, 'I did not,' about dope, 'I didn't break the laws of this country.' So it was sort of poignant and endearing. He would let you know he was lying, and then the right wing would come down so hard on him and over-punish him. And in the case of Bush, he's just in a completely different reality. You know, they call us the 'reality-based community,' and they create their own reality, and so Bush is just in a bubble. And when you're in the bubble, you don't know you're in the bubble."

Concluding her appearance, Dowd more directly accused Bush of lying as she contrasted Oprah's initial defense of the discredited Frey with Bush's defense of the Iraq invasion after the failure to find WMD: "When Oprah was clinging to supporting Frey, she was doing it for the reason of emotional truth, that millions of people could be helped by his story of redemption. And Bush, with Iraq, said that we, even if it turned out not to be true, the reasons we went to war, it was right because millions of Iraqis would be liberated. But you cannot, you know, do things that start with a lie, and they just lead to trouble down the road."

Dowd is the anti-Coulter. Thank god both of them exist so they can cancel each other out.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Dowd is the anti-Coulter. [/QUOTE]

As far as I know, Dowd hasn't suggested murdering Supreme Court justices who don't support her point of view, so I don't think she QUITE rises to Coulter's level.
 
Just for the record, bmulligan, you have frequently made mention of media bias that is apparent in the kind of things they say (or don't say). You, I believe, at one point made remark to how subtle is was, that the average dolt (who was, at the time, myself according to you) couldn't identify how labeling and agency, use of passive sentences etc. help construct a story that, when analyzed properly, clearly exposes the liberal bias of the media.

Now, having said that, I've been trying for roughly 4 weeks to read the MRC site "newsbusters." If you want to discredit the mainstream media for their implicit and subtle approached to brainwashing the masses into socialism, the least you could do is not cite the MRC as a trustworthy and valuable research. Olbermann managed to imply, quip, and mock the Bush administration in the first four paragraphs of this piece you cite - all subjectively decided by the MRC reporter's perception of the event (and, if we label ourselves conservative and Olbermann and Dowd liberal, they can bring boxes of kittens and candy on the show, and we'd still hate everything that comes out of their mouth). In short, the MRC makes no attempt to disguise the fact that most of the newsitems on their site are completely subjectively interpretable crap, the kind of stuff that reactionaries get their panties in a bunch about because somebody, anybody, anywhere, anytime, is criticizing this president, and that means the liberal MSM is at work doing their worst.

And while Dowd clearly wears her ideology on her sleeve, she is far more intellectual than Coulter could ever dream to be. Coulter's approach is like Hamas, to recommend the complete and utter elimination of anything and everything that disagrees with her; unlike Hamas, she tries to hide behind a shroud of "hyperbole" when called out on statements such as "we should kill their [Muslim] leaders and convert them to christianity." (I paraphrased that, FWIW).

Dowd, on the other hand, is more than happy to explain to you that the Bush administration is completely and totally full of shit, without needing to delve into the realm of a Hulk Hogan "I'm gonna kill you Iron Shiek" style interview that Coulter succeeds most at. Coulter is, for obvious reasons, the more entertaining of the two.
 
Just trying to imagine Dowd and Coulter in a oil wrestling mathc with me as the ref.... Such Happy Thoughts.
 
Coulter scares and disgusts me physically. I think I could stomach being with hugh hefner before I could be with coulter. I don't even like looking at her on tv, her giraffe neck and plastic face creep me out.
 
[quote name='Ikohn4ever']what the hell is an ultra liberal and do they have a cape?[/QUOTE]

I was curious about that too and wondered if she knows these guys:

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[quote name='mykevermin']Just for the record, bmulligan, you have frequently made mention of media bias that is apparent in the kind of things they say (or don't say). You, I believe, at one point made remark to how subtle is was, that the average dolt (who was, at the time, myself according to you) couldn't identify how labeling and agency, use of passive sentences etc. help construct a story that, when analyzed properly, clearly exposes the liberal bias of the media.

Now, having said that, I've been trying for roughly 4 weeks to read the MRC site "newsbusters." If you want to discredit the mainstream media for their implicit and subtle approached to brainwashing the masses into socialism, the least you could do is not cite the MRC as a trustworthy and valuable research. Olbermann managed to imply, quip, and mock the Bush administration in the first four paragraphs of this piece you cite - all subjectively decided by the MRC reporter's perception of the event (and, if we label ourselves conservative and Olbermann and Dowd liberal, they can bring boxes of kittens and candy on the show, and we'd still hate everything that comes out of their mouth). In short, the MRC makes no attempt to disguise the fact that most of the newsitems on their site are completely subjectively interpretable crap, the kind of stuff that reactionaries get their panties in a bunch about because somebody, anybody, anywhere, anytime, is criticizing this president, and that means the liberal MSM is at work doing their worst.[/quote]

I don't read MRC, it was just on the first page of my Google search. Biases aside from the article, The transcript of the interview speaks for itself. If you think Dowd is "intellectual", meaning a emotional reactionary zealot of her respective party, then I wold have to disagree, they are both equals. Coulter makes me ashamed to be associated with conservatives, and Down makes me want to vomit blood. But, I might pay to see that mud wrestle match...

And while Dowd clearly wears her ideology on her sleeve, she is far more intellectual than Coulter could ever dream to be. Coulter's approach is like Hamas, to recommend the complete and utter elimination of anything and everything that disagrees with her; unlike Hamas, she tries to hide behind a shroud of "hyperbole" when called out on statements such as "we should kill their [Muslim] leaders and convert them to christianity." (I paraphrased that, FWIW).

Don't be too sure about Dowd, I read her column and she's not above burning bridges, kicking ass, and taking names. She isn't a passive voice as you imply. She may not want to kill supreme court justices or radical muslims, but she'd take a crack shot at anyone in the Bush administration any day of the week.
 
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