Eb Gaming Guarantee (Now with release dates!)

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Eb is doing a new approach the to Gaming Guarantee, since it is so successful.

Apparently the titles below will all be GG's, have fun!

Preorder these games!!

Dirt 2 - September 8
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - September 15
Need for speed shift - September 15
Halo ODST - September 22
Star Wars Republic heroes (the clone wars) - October 6
Uncharted 2 - October 13

:applause::applause:
WAHOO!

I've seen it at 2 stores so far, I'm fairly positive about this but some more conformation would be amazing!
 
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MUA2 and NFSS come out on the 15th by the way, going to have to put a couple games on those tomorrow. Thanks gamer for the conformation, just wanted to be sure before I peed my pants!
 
sweet, i wasn't in the rush to play Uncharted 2 , but i might to the GG ( you have to pre-order it, right?) and return it for a full refund (if i pay cash, they'll give me back cash, not Gift card?) and play the game :) and than buy it for collector's sake in the later years....

thanks forthe info!
 
[quote name='Bencherstyle']sweet, i wasn't in the rush to play Uncharted 2 , but i might to the GG ( you have to pre-order it, right?) and return it for a full refund (if i pay cash, they'll give me back cash, not Gift card?)[/QUOTE]

No. No matter how you pay for it - Trade 3, cash, credit or Edge card - they'll refund you only with trade credit.

I was gonna hold off on Uncharted 2 and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 but now it looks like I'll be getting both.
 
Do you have to preorder the game in order for this to work? I'd like to pick up Wolfenstein this week and return it for one of the others.
 
[quote name='Angel Gamer']Do you have to preorder the game in order for this to work? I'd like to pick up Wolfenstein this week and return it for one of the others.[/QUOTE]
It has to be preordered
 
So I know all these games release in the same general time frame but could I:
Preorder Dirt 2, play it for a week, return and then preorder ODST which I could then return after a week? I've never done this Gaming Guarantee thing. Oh and would I have to pay taxes again for ODST?
 
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do whatever you like with the credit, it is tax free.

preorder marvel ultimate alliance 2, bring back, preorder dirt 2, bring back, preorder, odst, all on the same 69.99

(not sure when the last 2 come out but its an example)
 
How close to the release date does EB stop allowing preorders? I want to grab MUA2 and then bring it back to preorder Halo ODST but I need to know how much time I'm allowed to hang onto MUA2. I know I need to bring it back in a week no matter what for the deal but ODST is the week after. I doubt they let you preorder the day before the game is out.
 
Not sure if this will work but I have a copy of Wolfenstein pre-ordered, I want to keep it longer then 7 days and I have three games that work for trade three, I am hoping to do another trade 3 for a 2nd copy of Wolfenstein, returning my original copy for full dollar value (Gaming Guarantee promo) so I can pre-order a game that is not trade three like Assassins Creed 2 or Mass Effect 2, that way I can leave with Wolfenstein and a paid in full copy of something that is not on the list
 
Confirmed pre-order bonuses coming:

Dirt 2 - September 8 - DC something? It wasn't clear
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - September 15 - Juggernaut code
Need for speed shift - September 15 - BMW M3 code
Halo ODST - September 22 - Sgt Johnson code (available now if you've already ordered)
Star Wars Republic heroes (the clone wars) - October 6 - not sure
Uncharted 2 - October 13 - multiplayer demo code and revenge attribute
 
I was just on EBgames.ca website and I love how the person that updates it is so slack! Can you spot the cut and paste...

Wolfenstein - Gaming Guarantee!
EB Games / GameStop is so confident that you will love this game, we are willing to give you full in-store trade credit within one week of purchase. Only for those who pre-purchase Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen. Pre-purchase now!
 
So wait, does this gaming guarantee actually work? I mean, as long as I have $5 down on the titles I'm interested in I can pay off Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, then return it within 7 days and get Halo: ODST, then return that within 7 days and get Star Wars, and do it again for Uncharted 2?

There won't be any problems?
 
as long as the games are preordered, 5$ down minimum, you are safe. so if you dont like MUA, bring it back, put towards halo, bring it back, put towards star wars, bring it back for uncharted 2.
 
Multiple GGs is the best idea ever. Just reserve everything. I just wondered if they would be shooting themselves in the foot for having so many different GGs at different times though.
 
I don't think it's a terrible idea for them, most people are probably not doing T3 for this deal..

Eventually you have to spend your money on something there, plus EB gets a better selection of new releases games to sell used. Plus I bet it's easier to get people to pre-order if they feel that they can return the game for full price if they don't like it. (although it's still not clear to me why they push pre-orders so much)

Then on the used side, they're only selling them for $5 off, and I believe that's approx the margin on games (10% ish?) they're not losing anything.. just not making anything until the original buyer uses up his credit. And even better if that original buyer spends it on a used game, which has even higher margins.
 
Here's how pre-orders work for them and makes them a TON of money. Trust me, it's really shady. What they do is take that money you put down on a pre-order ($5, $10, or even the whole thing) and put it in a huge interest gaining bank account. That money sits in there and gains interest for the retailer months and sometimes years (Duke Nukem Forever anyone?) until the game is released.

So basically EB is making money off of everyone putting money down from not only selling the game when it's released but by the interest made off of it. That's why employees are pretty much forced to push preorders. I'm not sure how it is for employees at EB but I'm sure if they don't have a good number of pre-orders they start getting shifts cuts for people that do.
 
I took a quick look through their financials and I didn't see anything specific to pre-orders or whatever from customers. But they have a huge interest expense (from all the debt they issue), so I guess all the pre-orders are helping finance their operations even if its technically not earning them interest.

Some other interesting tidbits.. nothing new but interesting to see it laid out:

Gross Profit Margins:
Hardware: 6%
New Software: 21%
Used Software: 48%
Other: 33% (not sure what other is.. accessories I guess)

Also Canada is about 5% of their revenue...

Alright, that's enough of a threadjack...
 
I have a question.

Has anyone ever bought a game that was listed as a Gaming Guarantee game, then took it back after a week and put it on another GGG? Is it possible to bounce one GGG onto another so you can play all these games for $80? All those games are coming weekly.
 
[quote name='lustyhitter']I have a question.

Has anyone ever bought a game that was listed as a Gaming Guarantee game, then took it back after a week and put it on another GGG? Is it possible to bounce one GGG onto another so you can play all these games for $80? All those games are coming weekly.[/QUOTE]

I haven't done it in such a short time (mainly because they used to be like 1-2 months apart) but it was suggested to me to do that by a non-manager EB employee recently. He said all of them did it before.
 
[quote name='TripleQ']I haven't done it in such a short time (mainly because they used to be like 1-2 months apart) but it was suggested to me to do that by a non-manager EB employee recently. He said all of them did it before.[/QUOTE]

I'll ask my EB on Tuesday when I pick up Batman then. I can go from Dirt 2 to Need For Speed and then put the credit on a Edge card and buy Uncharted 2 when it arrives, which I will keep.
 
[quote name='telepathy']Multiple GGs is the best idea ever. Just reserve everything. I just wondered if they would be shooting themselves in the foot for having so many different GGs at different times though.[/QUOTE]

They would have been shooting themselves in the foot a few months back with all the crap they were GGing, but with these titles? They're guaranteed to sell their used inventory.
 
[quote name='lustyhitter']I have a question.

Has anyone ever bought a game that was listed as a Gaming Guarantee game, then took it back after a week and put it on another GGG? Is it possible to bounce one GGG onto another so you can play all these games for $80? All those games are coming weekly.[/QUOTE]

Yes, this works, for the 2nd time.

You can play a dirt 2, bring it back within a week, put it on NFS, put 5$ on MUA2, play NFS and beat it in a couple days, than return it for MUA2 (but you must have at least 5$ down on MUA), return MUA2 after the week put it on ODST
 
I was told release date of October 20 for Uncharted 2 when I pre-ordered it today. I know most gaming sites say Oct 13, but I was told 2-3 times Oct 20 (the guy insisted it seems). Maybe the guy was wrong.
 
[quote name='JnJosh']Yes, this works, for the 2nd time.

You can play a dirt 2, bring it back within a week, put it on NFS, put 5$ on MUA2, play NFS and beat it in a couple days, than return it for MUA2 (but you must have at least 5$ down on MUA), return MUA2 after the week put it on ODST[/QUOTE]

Sounds good. However, I'll probably play Dirt 2 then Need For Speed and then save the credit for Uncharted 2, which I plan to keep. I'll ask the guys at my EB Tuesday just to be sure. However, I really like the PSN demo of Dirt 2 I got off of the UK PSN. It might be hard for me to part with it.
 
Actually that's not a typo. A lot of people are in for a rude awakening when they try to take advantage of the Wolfenstein guarantee :p

"Wait a minute... you didn't prepurchase Transformers...! No Guarantee For You!"
 
[quote name='lustyhitter']Sounds good. However, I'll probably play Dirt 2 then Need For Speed and then save the credit for Uncharted 2, which I plan to keep. I'll ask the guys at my EB Tuesday just to be sure. However, I really like the PSN demo of Dirt 2 I got off of the UK PSN. It might be hard for me to part with it.[/QUOTE]

If you like the game, i would bring it back for GG then buy it back used w/edge card w/the credit u obtained from the GG. In theory, your basically getting a new game w/stickers on it for $10 off then
 
yes but he has to wait a month...so why not just keep it and make 10$ some other way in a months time.

Lusty you don't need to ask, if they don't let you go from Dirt, to NFS, to Uncharted (why not try halo, if no xbox, try star wars) to uncharted, than they're doing something wrong. Just make sure you take dirt back in before a week because you technically need a preorder on NFS, and they sometimes stop preorders after a shipment comes in, shipment of NFS will come in with NHL which is usually early. So play dirt from tuesday-thursday, :)
 
You guys are absolutely sure that those are GGs right ? Cause I'm planning on doing this for Marvel:UA2 and returning it and getting Demon's Souls, Alpha Protocol or perhaps MW2.
 
[quote name='Gamin_Guru']You guys are absolutely sure that those are GGs right ? Cause I'm planning on doing this for Marvel:UA2 and returning it and getting Demon's Souls, Alpha Protocol or perhaps MW2.[/QUOTE]

Yes, and if you don't trust us, there should be a mini rack (maybe 5 tall x 3 wide) near the front of the store with display cases for GG pre-orders (which makes me wonder why they can't have display cases for new releases :roll:)
 
Actually, IT IS NOW ON

www.ebgames.ca

trade_gg_en.jpg

Gaming Guarantee!
EB Games / GameStop is so confident that you will love this game, we are willing to give you full in-store trade credit within one week of purchase. Pre-purchase now!

Dirt 2
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
Need for Speed: Shift
Halo ODST
Star Wars Clone Wars: Heroes of the Republic
Uncharted 2

Limited quantities. Pre-purchase Dirt 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, Need for Speed: Shift, Halo ODST, Star Wars Clone Wars: Heroes of the Republic, Uncharted 2 at any EB Games or GameStop Canada location and receive full in-store credit back when you trade Dirt 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, Need for Speed: Shift, Halo ODST, Star Wars Clone Wars: Heroes of the Republic, Uncharted 2 in within one week of the product’s pickup date. Dirt 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, Need for Speed: Shift, Halo ODST, Star Wars Clone Wars: Heroes of the Republic, Uncharted 2 must be picked up within one week of release date. In-store credit is a trade in credit valued at the pre-tax purchase price at the time of pick-up of Dirt 2, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2, Need for Speed: Shift, Halo ODST, Star Wars Clone Wars: Heroes of the Republic, Uncharted 2. The receipt from the pick-up transaction must accompany the game when traded in to receive the full in-store credit. The game will trade in at its' regular trade value if traded in after 7 days from the date of pick up. Game must be returned in good condition with instruction manual and case. Refurb charges may apply. Offer may be discontinued at any time. Ask sales associate for full details.
 
I guess Gamin_Guru was not convinced, so gamer was providing the information directly from the source. No worries Josh, I believed ya from the get-go...got pre-orders on Uncharted 2, MUA2 and Halo 3:ODST :D; the only one I may even bring back is MUA2.
 
It's not that I dont believe you but the store I go to is strange and they didnt have any new signs up and also they stick to the book. Thanks for confirming it though.
 
Really? Here in Calgary, the EBGames at ******* Mall is by the book strict, but the one at ******* mall is awesome. I got my pre-orders for ME2 and Modern Warfare 2 using T3G1F through them. Love that store.

*Rescinded store name. Don't want some dumb manager to read this thread and screw up my relaxed, anything goes store.
 
[quote name='Afrodiziak']Here's how pre-orders work for them and makes them a TON of money. Trust me, it's really shady. What they do is take that money you put down on a pre-order ($5, $10, or even the whole thing) and put it in a huge interest gaining bank account. That money sits in there and gains interest for the retailer months and sometimes years (Duke Nukem Forever anyone?) until the game is released.

So basically EB is making money off of everyone putting money down from not only selling the game when it's released but by the interest made off of it. That's why employees are pretty much forced to push preorders. I'm not sure how it is for employees at EB but I'm sure if they don't have a good number of pre-orders they start getting shifts cuts for people that do.[/QUOTE]

That's not how it works at all, where's this magical bank that gives giant interest? Because I'll put down a few hundred bucks down every week. Or course on a HUGE scale (such as Gamestop's like 5000 stores) you can make some decent scratch on it but there's a bigger picture.

Also games that will never be released (DN:F) wouldn't be on the list, company doesn't put vaporware on the list, just stuff that's coming out within the next 6-8 months (furthest I've seen is FFXIII or GoW3 around March 2010).

What preorders help more is with this:

It keeps the company from overspending and over-ordering games, so if we know approximately how many games we're looking at selling it gets easier to actually order X amount so we don't fall short or have WAY too much overstock.

That's why they push preorders, there's nothing shady about it (it's business after all), would you want to be stuck with 20 copies of Crimson Gem Saga that won't ever sell (my store's sold less than 4 exactly). Or remind (or bug people, depending on your prespective) to preorder certain things so that you (the store owner let's say, 'cause EB is corporate not franchised) can actually NOT be stuck with a bunch of useless extra copies (which you'd have to sell at a discount later and lose money because of the very reason that they're NOT selling)?

The math usually goes like this for most games:

P/2+P=X

P being the number of preorders and X the number of games we order. So if we got 10 Halo preorders we'll get 5 extras to sell to the public, that way we have a good idea of what the certain store will be able to sell before a price drop (thus losing money).

EX: 2 Wolfenstein preorders, so we got 3. One extra.

[quote name='lustyhitter']I have a question.

Has anyone ever bought a game that was listed as a Gaming Guarantee game, then took it back after a week and put it on another GGG? Is it possible to bounce one GGG onto another so you can play all these games for $80? All those games are coming weekly.[/QUOTE]

Yes you can my friend, yes you can.

[quote name='Gamin_Guru']Fairview Mall one.
The workers there are really cool and all, but usually they are strict in following their rules.[/QUOTE]

We all have to, it's not like we don't have a choice, we do sort of want to keep our jobs.

[quote name='game_fanatic']Yeah apparently the EBs located in the malls are more strict and 'by the book'[/QUOTE]

In my particular district the mall ones are pretty chill and the outside ones get super butthurt when they get a whiff of t3.

[quote name='Ulchie']Really? Here in Calgary, the EBGames at ******* Mall is by the book strict, but the one at ******* mall is awesome. I got my pre-orders for ME2 and Modern Warfare 2 using T3G1F through them. Love that store.

*Rescinded store name. Don't want some dumb manager to read this thread and screw up my relaxed, anything goes store.[/QUOTE]

Yes, thank you Ulchie. Please do not mention your local store by name unless they did something super stupid (like be rude to you or something) because forums do get watched. Probly the EB employees on CAG haven't been posting with as much frequency.
 
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