Ex Navy SEAL restrained himself from shooting his dog's killer
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What the hell was the point of this interview? "A responsible gun owner"? The guy said at several points during his dumb story that he almost shot these people! Jesus 
ing christ, just when I think Glenn Beck can't get any stupider...
Also, I loved the "Teen Punks Murder American Hero's Dog" headline.
ing christ, just when I think Glenn Beck can't get any stupider...Also, I loved the "Teen Punks Murder American Hero's Dog" headline.
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Wait for it...
It is a dog and completely replaceable.
It is a dog and completely replaceable.
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Ya, I have 2 labs myself and love them like family, but murder is not the right word for what they did.
That being said, they people who did this do deserve to get the shit beat out of them so bad that they end up in the hospital for a week or so. I mean, why the hell do you shoot someones dog if it poses no threat?
That being said, they people who did this do deserve to get the shit beat out of them so bad that they end up in the hospital for a week or so. I mean, why the hell do you shoot someones dog if it poses no threat?
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[quote name='Koggit']restrained himself? sounds like he wanted to shoot them and would've done it if he had the chance
ridiculous that beck tried to spin that into a political pro-gun piece[/QUOTE]
Beck did spin it at one point, I'll give you that. He mentioned it one single time in a ten minute interview and didn't even wrap the interview up talking about guns.
Don't see you complaining about all the anti-gun spin with the two shooting sprees last week though.
Guess you see what you want to see.
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']What the hell was the point of this interview? "A responsible gun owner"? The guy said at several points during his dumb story that he almost shot these people! Jesusing christ, just when I think Glenn Beck can't get any stupider...
Also, I loved the "Teen Punks Murder American Hero's Dog" headline.[/QUOTE]
Clearly you don't watch/listen to Beck, so I'll help provide some context for this interview so you can better see it's "point".
Beck has been very close with Marcus, following his story (which is very heroic) ever since he got back from Afghanistan. He has Marcus on his radio show ALL the time. Often to just talk about mundane things. He's a friend. A buddy, and he has him on the tv show all the time too. They talk about his dating life. Play games trying to hook him up with dates etc. It's been going on for about 2 years. They work charities together, raising money, and it's been rumored that Beck helps him out financially with his injuries.
So Marcus is a "friend of the program" so-to-speak. Beck has about half a dozen like this. So the simple point of this interview was to relay a story to Beck fans about an incident that happened to someone that Beck fans all know.
Now, if he just had Marcus on for the first time on his show to try and make some kind of weird example of this story for an agenda, I'd have a similar reaction to yours. That's why I never would have made a thread about it though.
[quote name='HotShotX']Are you telling me that an Ex Navy Seal didn't have the option to simply beat the shit out of someone?
~HotShotX[/QUOTE]
[quote name='xycury']indeed, going the easy way out and shooting a person.... much more satisfying to his psyche if he would have just beat the living crap out of them.[/QUOTE]
If you listened to his story, he never got the chance in chasing them with his truck. By the time he had the chance, the Sheriff was there also. Not sure that, even in Texas, the Sheriff would have let a victim beat the shit out of perps in his presence.
ridiculous that beck tried to spin that into a political pro-gun piece[/QUOTE]
Beck did spin it at one point, I'll give you that. He mentioned it one single time in a ten minute interview and didn't even wrap the interview up talking about guns.
Don't see you complaining about all the anti-gun spin with the two shooting sprees last week though.
Guess you see what you want to see.
[quote name='Kirin Lemon']What the hell was the point of this interview? "A responsible gun owner"? The guy said at several points during his dumb story that he almost shot these people! Jesus
ing christ, just when I think Glenn Beck can't get any stupider...Also, I loved the "Teen Punks Murder American Hero's Dog" headline.[/QUOTE]
Clearly you don't watch/listen to Beck, so I'll help provide some context for this interview so you can better see it's "point".
Beck has been very close with Marcus, following his story (which is very heroic) ever since he got back from Afghanistan. He has Marcus on his radio show ALL the time. Often to just talk about mundane things. He's a friend. A buddy, and he has him on the tv show all the time too. They talk about his dating life. Play games trying to hook him up with dates etc. It's been going on for about 2 years. They work charities together, raising money, and it's been rumored that Beck helps him out financially with his injuries.
So Marcus is a "friend of the program" so-to-speak. Beck has about half a dozen like this. So the simple point of this interview was to relay a story to Beck fans about an incident that happened to someone that Beck fans all know.
Now, if he just had Marcus on for the first time on his show to try and make some kind of weird example of this story for an agenda, I'd have a similar reaction to yours. That's why I never would have made a thread about it though.
[quote name='HotShotX']Are you telling me that an Ex Navy Seal didn't have the option to simply beat the shit out of someone?
~HotShotX[/QUOTE]
[quote name='xycury']indeed, going the easy way out and shooting a person.... much more satisfying to his psyche if he would have just beat the living crap out of them.[/QUOTE]
If you listened to his story, he never got the chance in chasing them with his truck. By the time he had the chance, the Sheriff was there also. Not sure that, even in Texas, the Sheriff would have let a victim beat the shit out of perps in his presence.
[quote name='thrustbucket']Beck did spin it at one point, I'll give you that. He mentioned it one single time in a ten minute interview and didn't even wrap the interview up talking about guns.
Don't see you complaining about all the anti-gun spin with the two shooting sprees last week though.
Guess you see what you want to see.[/QUOTE]
If Beck weren't trying to make it pro-gun then why did he say "a responsible gun owner" in the middle of the piece? The ex-seal wanted to shoot them, and flat-out admitted if he had a clear shot he would've killed the driver.
Yeah, he mentioned it again at the end, but to me the "responsible gun-owner" comment in the middle was the most blatant and inappropriate attempt.
Don't see you complaining about all the anti-gun spin with the two shooting sprees last week though.
Guess you see what you want to see.[/QUOTE]
If Beck weren't trying to make it pro-gun then why did he say "a responsible gun owner" in the middle of the piece? The ex-seal wanted to shoot them, and flat-out admitted if he had a clear shot he would've killed the driver.
Yeah, he mentioned it again at the end, but to me the "responsible gun-owner" comment in the middle was the most blatant and inappropriate attempt.
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[quote name='HotShotX']Are you telling me that an Ex Navy Seal didn't have the option to simply beat the shit out of someone?
~HotShotX[/QUOTE]
How do you beat the shit out of someone during a car chase?
~Brak
~HotShotX[/QUOTE]
How do you beat the shit out of someone during a car chase?
~Brak
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[quote name='Brak']How do you beat the shit out of someone during a car chase?
~Brak[/quote]
I might be able to answer that in 3-7 hours.
~Brak[/quote]
I might be able to answer that in 3-7 hours.
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What? Are you gonna play Vin Diesel's Wheelman, or drive home from work?
He actually did kinda wrap it up talking about guns thrust, so it doesn't seem like some unimportant detail in the interview. But regardless, it would've been an entirely pointless interview with a side of "this is why we need guns" if it wasn't a dude Beck regularly talks to.
Anyway, not particularly amazing (violent and irresponsible teenagers in America?!), and it's weird that not shooting somebody is an accomplishment. I'm not going to dismiss his attachment to his dog, but really, not shooting somebody is what you're supposed to do.
Anyway, not particularly amazing (violent and irresponsible teenagers in America?!), and it's weird that not shooting somebody is an accomplishment. I'm not going to dismiss his attachment to his dog, but really, not shooting somebody is what you're supposed to do.
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Permeating the entire segment was the unspoken idea that vigilantism is ok, and drawing/firing on a person is also ok. It remains ok not only in the absence of imminent danger for the person holding the gun, but is admirable and noble - and "responsible" as it were.
Twoers shoot and kill a dog. That pulls my personal emotional heartstrings more than a lot of legally definable murders. But "justice" is unrelated to my emotions.
In response, this person pulls a gun on them, chases them, and pulls a gun on them again. Yet we praise him because he didn't fire at them despite his desire to do so?
First thing he should have done was call the police.
Two
ers shoot and kill a dog. That pulls my personal emotional heartstrings more than a lot of legally definable murders. But "justice" is unrelated to my emotions. In response, this person pulls a gun on them, chases them, and pulls a gun on them again. Yet we praise him because he didn't fire at them despite his desire to do so?
First thing he should have done was call the police.
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I restrain myself from murdering people every day. Where is my spot on Glenn Beck?
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[quote name='JolietJake']I restrain myself from murdering people every day. Where is my spot on Glenn Beck?[/QUOTE]
Hell, I restrain myself from murdering scores, or even hundreds, of annoying to assholish people every day. But I still would rather not have a spot on Glenn Beck, to be honest.
Hell, I restrain myself from murdering scores, or even hundreds, of annoying to assholish people every day. But I still would rather not have a spot on Glenn Beck, to be honest.
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Glenn Beck=Psycho.
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be nice to glenn beck or he will start crying again
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[quote name='elprincipe']Hell, I restrain myself from murdering scores, or even hundreds, of annoying to assholish people every day. But I still would rather not have a spot on Glenn Beck, to be honest.[/quote]
I just want to test myself to see if i can resist murdering him.
I just want to test myself to see if i can resist murdering him.
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[quote name='Brak']How do you beat the shit out of someone during a car chase?
~Brak[/quote]
Well, first you ram their vehicle until they lose control and have to stop, and if they are still alive from being hit, you drag their hopefully-mangled body out and beat them to within an inch of their life. =P
~Brak[/quote]
Well, first you ram their vehicle until they lose control and have to stop, and if they are still alive from being hit, you drag their hopefully-mangled body out and beat them to within an inch of their life. =P
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The story became overshadowed by stupid gun law rhetoric, and I saw no "restraint" being exercised at all; that dude was just lucky he wasn't given an opportunity to something he would regret.
Still though, I have to feel bad for the guy. I will never in my life understand how some people can beed up enough to drive around and kill family pets for kicks...
Still though, I have to feel bad for the guy. I will never in my life understand how some people can be
ed up enough to drive around and kill family pets for kicks...
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[quote name='Brak']What? Are you gonna play Vin Diesel's Wheelman, or drive home from work?[/quote]
I let my daughter leave school in somebody else's vehicle.
I let my daughter leave school in somebody else's vehicle.
I'd have opened fire on them immediately, armed men trespassing on my property, firing at my animals are an imminent threat to my life.
If he had shot them, Texas has a very broad castle law that would have almost certainly protected him from prosecution. He probably regrets not killing them at that time, and rightfully so.
Matter of fact, aside from the castle law, their other laws state that deadly force is justified in cases of arson, robbery, theft or criminal mischief at night. I'd imagine 1:30am is nighttime in Texas, he was 100% within his rights to shoot them at that point. So yes, I would say that restraining himself from killing these people when he was absolutely within his rights to do so is commendable.
If he had shot them, Texas has a very broad castle law that would have almost certainly protected him from prosecution. He probably regrets not killing them at that time, and rightfully so.
Matter of fact, aside from the castle law, their other laws state that deadly force is justified in cases of arson, robbery, theft or criminal mischief at night. I'd imagine 1:30am is nighttime in Texas, he was 100% within his rights to shoot them at that point. So yes, I would say that restraining himself from killing these people when he was absolutely within his rights to do so is commendable.
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[quote name='dafoomie']I'd have opened fire on them immediately, armed men trespassing on my property, firing at my animals are an imminent threat to my life.
If he had shot them, Texas has a very broad castle law that would have almost certainly protected him from prosecution. He probably regrets not killing them at that time, and rightfully so.
Matter of fact, aside from the castle law, their other laws state that deadly force is justified in cases of arson, robbery, theft or criminal mischief at night. I'd imagine 1:30am is nighttime in Texas, he was 100% within his rights to shoot them at that point. So yes, I would say that restraining himself from killing these people when he was absolutely within his rights to do so is commendable.[/QUOTE]
did you complete the miss the part where he wanted to shoot them, but never got the opportunity?
the only chance he had to (clearly) shoot them was after the cop had stopped them.
he clearly states this.. he wanted to shoot them, didn't get the chance.
the guy is a navy seal so autoprops to him but nothing about this story is heroic or commendable.. it's pretty sad that he lost his dog, even more sad that it was a dog given to him for rehabilitation from a traumatic event, even more sad that he lost the dog the way he did.. i don't mean to belittle the guy or anything, but he did nothing commendable in this story and did not exhibit responsible gun ownership.
If he had shot them, Texas has a very broad castle law that would have almost certainly protected him from prosecution. He probably regrets not killing them at that time, and rightfully so.
Matter of fact, aside from the castle law, their other laws state that deadly force is justified in cases of arson, robbery, theft or criminal mischief at night. I'd imagine 1:30am is nighttime in Texas, he was 100% within his rights to shoot them at that point. So yes, I would say that restraining himself from killing these people when he was absolutely within his rights to do so is commendable.[/QUOTE]
did you complete the miss the part where he wanted to shoot them, but never got the opportunity?
the only chance he had to (clearly) shoot them was after the cop had stopped them.
he clearly states this.. he wanted to shoot them, didn't get the chance.
the guy is a navy seal so autoprops to him but nothing about this story is heroic or commendable.. it's pretty sad that he lost his dog, even more sad that it was a dog given to him for rehabilitation from a traumatic event, even more sad that he lost the dog the way he did.. i don't mean to belittle the guy or anything, but he did nothing commendable in this story and did not exhibit responsible gun ownership.
[quote name='Koggit']did you complete the miss the part where he wanted to shoot them, but never got the opportunity?[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it was responsible. But I believe he would've been within his rights to kill those men. You have an overly broad right to use deadly force in Texas.
where are you getting that from? doesn't sound like his recollection..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvhMB2YoT6g
2:45 to 3:40
he very clearly states they took off "before i could get a shot off", then the chase ensued and that he "was gonna try to shoot the driver" but he "couldn't get a clean shot off"
how could it be more clear? where's the misunderstanding?
it wasn't until 4:15 he mentions a moment in which he could've shot them, but "the sheriff took over from there"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvhMB2YoT6g
2:45 to 3:40
he very clearly states they took off "before i could get a shot off", then the chase ensued and that he "was gonna try to shoot the driver" but he "couldn't get a clean shot off"
how could it be more clear? where's the misunderstanding?
it wasn't until 4:15 he mentions a moment in which he could've shot them, but "the sheriff took over from there"
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[quote name='dafoomie']Theres an article as well as a video.[/quote]
So why two different stories?
Also, who watches Glen Beck anymore? After his current Obama is leading us into fascism piece, I swore him off.
So why two different stories?
Also, who watches Glen Beck anymore? After his current Obama is leading us into fascism piece, I swore him off.
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This is one of the two douchebags:
The other guy is white trailer trash, but can't find the picture that was posted on another forum right now...but sorry these dipshits got off easy....
I hate lifeless little shits that think its "cool" to kill animals like that, but they killed a therapy animal. Hell I've been bitten by my JRT a couple times, the bastard has pissed me off, but I'm not gonna hurt him for no reason. The little guy has given much more comfort many a times that no human has ever given me
The other guy is white trailer trash, but can't find the picture that was posted on another forum right now...but sorry these dipshits got off easy....
I hate lifeless little shits that think its "cool" to kill animals like that, but they killed a therapy animal. Hell I've been bitten by my JRT a couple times, the bastard has pissed me off, but I'm not gonna hurt him for no reason. The little guy has given much more comfort many a times that no human has ever given me
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Reminds me of the movie Red. Rich punks kill some old retired dude's dog and everyone just looks the other way. Guy tries to get his father to take responsibility but he denies it all. Let's just say the kid and the dad end up dead and old dude gets a new dog.
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