Favourite news source?
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There is a channel on my cable that offers foreign news services (BBC, China, France, India...) all in English. I watch that channel, the nightly news, and the Sunday morning news programs.
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BBC is nothing like Fox. They are a radical left wing bomb throwing orginization. Fox doesn't go around attacking people simply because of their party affiliation unlike the BBC and most other liberal news media.
Seriously, I am tired of you idiots attacking and labeling Fox simply because they decided that they wanted to have a different leaning than the rest of major media. God forbid that people and news organizations have a different opinion that you liberal wackos.
Not to mention the major intollerance this shows from the "side of tollerance" - that liberals can't handle and won't accept an opinion or view other than theirs so they have to go out and attack it.
Seriously, I am tired of you idiots attacking and labeling Fox simply because they decided that they wanted to have a different leaning than the rest of major media. God forbid that people and news organizations have a different opinion that you liberal wackos.
Not to mention the major intollerance this shows from the "side of tollerance" - that liberals can't handle and won't accept an opinion or view other than theirs so they have to go out and attack it.
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[quote name='Mike23']Mine is the BBC. They seem to have less of an agenda and are the most subjective in their coverage.[/quote]
I hope you mean objective...News is really supposed to be objective.
Unfortunately that doesn't really exist so I always find a good mixture of vairous news sources is always best.
I hope you mean objective...News is really supposed to be objective.
Unfortunately that doesn't really exist so I always find a good mixture of vairous news sources is always best.
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Seriously, I am tired of you idiots attacking and labeling Fox simply because they decided that they wanted to have a different leaning than the rest of major media. God forbid that people and news organizations have a different opinion that you liberal wackos.
Not to mention the major intollerance this shows from the "side of tollerance" - that liberals can't handle and won't accept an opinion or view other than theirs so they have to go out and attack it.[/quote]
I don't fault Fox for having an agenda, it is just that they are so dishonest about it. Even their weather guys calls democrats names. I don't recall Al Roker ever calling Bush an idiot.
They over-represent conservatives on nearly every issue, overplay democrats/ liberals/ the UN are bad stories, ass kiss Republicans until their lips are chapped, and on and on; then declare how "honest" and "fair" they are. Limbaugh/ Hannity/ O'Reilly do the same thing. They don't do the hard work or research. They seemingly take information straight from the GOP and present it as news. So not only are they dishonest, they are exceedingly unprofessional.
The intolerance card is laughable. First of all we are tolerating Fox News. It is not like liberals are calling for Fox to be shut down. We are just voicing our opposition to it's dishonesty. Besides, There is nothing in the "liberal bible" that says we have to tolerant crap. We will stand up and point out when it's there.
Seriously, I am tired of you idiots attacking and labeling Fox simply because they decided that they wanted to have a different leaning than the rest of major media. God forbid that people and news organizations have a different opinion that you liberal wackos.
Not to mention the major intollerance this shows from the "side of tollerance" - that liberals can't handle and won't accept an opinion or view other than theirs so they have to go out and attack it.[/quote]
I don't fault Fox for having an agenda, it is just that they are so dishonest about it. Even their weather guys calls democrats names. I don't recall Al Roker ever calling Bush an idiot.
They over-represent conservatives on nearly every issue, overplay democrats/ liberals/ the UN are bad stories, ass kiss Republicans until their lips are chapped, and on and on; then declare how "honest" and "fair" they are. Limbaugh/ Hannity/ O'Reilly do the same thing. They don't do the hard work or research. They seemingly take information straight from the GOP and present it as news. So not only are they dishonest, they are exceedingly unprofessional.
The intolerance card is laughable. First of all we are tolerating Fox News. It is not like liberals are calling for Fox to be shut down. We are just voicing our opposition to it's dishonesty. Besides, There is nothing in the "liberal bible" that says we have to tolerant crap. We will stand up and point out when it's there.
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You forgot an option for Comedy Central. The Daily show - without a doubt, the best news program on Television 
Actually, I get most of my news information from the internet. Google's news service is a great resource for finding a lot of different sources for any given story, so you can easily find out a lot of different viewpoints on a subject. In my opinion, international news sources tend to be the most objective. American news sources seem to find it impossible to report on anything without putting their own spin on it (both for the left and right, though the right is far more blatent about it.)
Actually, I get most of my news information from the internet. Google's news service is a great resource for finding a lot of different sources for any given story, so you can easily find out a lot of different viewpoints on a subject. In my opinion, international news sources tend to be the most objective. American news sources seem to find it impossible to report on anything without putting their own spin on it (both for the left and right, though the right is far more blatent about it.)
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http://www.moveon.org/fox/
PWNED!!!!111!!
And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
And liberals are the one's who preach tolerance so YES you have to practice what you preach. Don't preach to me about how we have to be more tollerant of gays, illegals, drugs and other crap and then not be able to tollerate a different view point by constantly trying to shut them up by attacking them.
I swear you idiots are a joke. Where was the outrage when CNN made deals with Saddam to get exclusive interviews? Where were the liberal websites calling for CNN to shut down? Fox hasn't done anything remotely close to that and all you idiots want is to shut them up and shut them down.
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I don't get this. Liberals preach tolerance so therefore they are supposed to love and support every political idea? Politics is politics, liberals and conservatives attack each other. Though lately it seems more mainstream conservatives decided to get macho and start chest thumping and calling people traitors and such.
Don't you see the difference between attacking a political viewpoint or a political person, and attacking a person based on race, sexual orientation etc? Though out of all the things you could have linked to on moveon that was a poor one, they're calling for impartial reporting and on the corner is O'reilly, a conservative, telling people to shutup.
Don't you see the difference between attacking a political viewpoint or a political person, and attacking a person based on race, sexual orientation etc? Though out of all the things you could have linked to on moveon that was a poor one, they're calling for impartial reporting and on the corner is O'reilly, a conservative, telling people to shutup.
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[quote name='Scrubking']http://www.moveon.org/fox/
PWNED!!!!111!![/quote]
They're not calling for Fox to be shut down: they're calling for Fox to stop their false and misleading advertising by claiming to be fair and balanced. If they want to be the Republican News Network, they should certainly be free to do so, but as long as they claim be unbiased so they can sucker people into believing their claims, there's a problem.
Fox news heavily promotes themselves as an unbiased news source, a claim which is entirely untrue.
PWNED!!!!111!![/quote]
They're not calling for Fox to be shut down: they're calling for Fox to stop their false and misleading advertising by claiming to be fair and balanced. If they want to be the Republican News Network, they should certainly be free to do so, but as long as they claim be unbiased so they can sucker people into believing their claims, there's a problem.
Really? Every hear the catchphrase 'Fair and Balanced', a claim which implies that they present both sizes of the argument without bias? How about 'We report, you decide'? How exactly does one 'decide' when only one side of an argument is presented? Or the 'No spin zone', which is made up entirely of conservative spin?
Fox news heavily promotes themselves as an unbiased news source, a claim which is entirely untrue.
That's called 'reporting reality'. As Bush would say, though, the facts are biased against them.
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And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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Fox is unprofessional not because they lean right, but they don't do the research and put out a crappy product. Many times they merely accept GOP talking points uncritically. They cheerlead conservative causes. They generally show a lack of good journalism. They aren't even close to being objective.For example... A recent report on the guests on Special Report with Brit Hume showed that in 2001 Conservatives outnumbered liberals 8 to 1, in 2002 it was 3 to 2 and by 2003 it was back to 5 to 1. That is a joke. That is unprofessional especially after Brit Hume said in 2001 "if it is a reasonable question[a majority of conservative guests], and we find that there is some imbalance, then we’ll correct it.”
This is a great issue about the lack of professionalism in all of journalism as well. The standards of mainstream media are in a free fall. There is a huge bias towards big business, sound bite, sensationalism, happy new and celebrity worship.
And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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Fox is unprofessional not because they lean right, but they don't do the research and put out a crappy product. Many times they merely accept GOP talking points uncritically. They cheerlead conservative causes. They generally show a lack of good journalism. They aren't even close to being objective.For example... A recent report on the guests on Special Report with Brit Hume showed that in 2001 Conservatives outnumbered liberals 8 to 1, in 2002 it was 3 to 2 and by 2003 it was back to 5 to 1. That is a joke. That is unprofessional especially after Brit Hume said in 2001 "if it is a reasonable question[a majority of conservative guests], and we find that there is some imbalance, then we’ll correct it.”
This is a great issue about the lack of professionalism in all of journalism as well. The standards of mainstream media are in a free fall. There is a huge bias towards big business, sound bite, sensationalism, happy new and celebrity worship.
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[quote name='usickenme'][quote name='Scrubking']
And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
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Fox is unprofessional not because they lean right, but they don't do the research and put out a crappy product. Many times they merely accept GOP talking points uncritically. They cheerlead conservative causes. They generally show a lack of good journalism. They aren't even close to being objective.For example... A recent report on the guests on Special Report with Brit Hume showed that in 2001 Conservatives outnumbered liberals 8 to 1, in 2002 it was 3 to 2 and by 2003 it was back to 5 to 1. That is a joke. That is unprofessional especially after Brit Hume said in 2001 "if it is a reasonable question[a majority of conservative guests], and we find that there is some imbalance, then we’ll correct it.”
This is a great issue about the lack of professionalism in all of journalism as well. The standards of mainstream media are in a free fall. There is a huge bias towards big business, sound bite, sensationalism, happy new and celebrity worship.[/quote]
I think you also have to look at the quality of liberals on fox too. For example, take a look at hannity books then look at colmes book. I almost starting laughing reading the intro to colmes book, then I realized he wasn't joking.
And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
.[/quote]
Fox is unprofessional not because they lean right, but they don't do the research and put out a crappy product. Many times they merely accept GOP talking points uncritically. They cheerlead conservative causes. They generally show a lack of good journalism. They aren't even close to being objective.For example... A recent report on the guests on Special Report with Brit Hume showed that in 2001 Conservatives outnumbered liberals 8 to 1, in 2002 it was 3 to 2 and by 2003 it was back to 5 to 1. That is a joke. That is unprofessional especially after Brit Hume said in 2001 "if it is a reasonable question[a majority of conservative guests], and we find that there is some imbalance, then we’ll correct it.”
This is a great issue about the lack of professionalism in all of journalism as well. The standards of mainstream media are in a free fall. There is a huge bias towards big business, sound bite, sensationalism, happy new and celebrity worship.[/quote]
I think you also have to look at the quality of liberals on fox too. For example, take a look at hannity books then look at colmes book. I almost starting laughing reading the intro to colmes book, then I realized he wasn't joking.
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And liberals are the one's who preach tolerance so YES you have to practice what you preach. Don't preach to me about how we have to be more tollerant of gays, illegals, drugs and other crap and then not be able to tollerate a different view point by constantly trying to shut them up by attacking them.
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Don't preach to me PERIOD
I don't care what any one book says, even if most (51%) of Americans think it is a really great book. I am going to make up my own mind about how good people in America should be treated, and what rights they should be afforded.
And liberals are the one's who preach tolerance so YES you have to practice what you preach. Don't preach to me about how we have to be more tollerant of gays, illegals, drugs and other crap and then not be able to tollerate a different view point by constantly trying to shut them up by attacking them.
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Don't preach to me PERIOD
I don't care what any one book says, even if most (51%) of Americans think it is a really great book. I am going to make up my own mind about how good people in America should be treated, and what rights they should be afforded.
Of the choices, Fox News.
I also hit Drudge and MSNBC.com, it offers a lot of news headlines very quickly.
Sure FNC is biased. OReilly, Hannity, Greta, etc. THOSE PEOPLE AREN"T JOURNALISTS. They are commentators/opinion. I have no problem with them expressing their opinion/bias. The issue is when a straight 'news' program shows its bias, *while reporting the news*. Every time I've been listening to FNC during the weekday, if they have a Republican politician giving his opinion, they also have a Democrat.
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
The "no Spin zone" refers to the fact that when OReilly has a guest on who starts reading off their spin, whatever it is, OReilly asks questions to cut through the spin. Again, sure OReilly is biased, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with Rather being biased when reporting the news.
I also hit Drudge and MSNBC.com, it offers a lot of news headlines very quickly.
Sure FNC is biased. OReilly, Hannity, Greta, etc. THOSE PEOPLE AREN"T JOURNALISTS. They are commentators/opinion. I have no problem with them expressing their opinion/bias. The issue is when a straight 'news' program shows its bias, *while reporting the news*. Every time I've been listening to FNC during the weekday, if they have a Republican politician giving his opinion, they also have a Democrat.
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
The "no Spin zone" refers to the fact that when OReilly has a guest on who starts reading off their spin, whatever it is, OReilly asks questions to cut through the spin. Again, sure OReilly is biased, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with Rather being biased when reporting the news.
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[quote name='dtcarson']Of the choices, Fox News.
I also hit Drudge and MSNBC.com, it offers a lot of news headlines very quickly.
Sure FNC is biased. OReilly, Hannity, Greta, etc. THOSE PEOPLE AREN"T JOURNALISTS. They are commentators/opinion. I have no problem with them expressing their opinion/bias. The issue is when a straight 'news' program shows its bias, *while reporting the news*. Every time I've been listening to FNC during the weekday, if they have a Republican politician giving his opinion, they also have a Democrat.
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
The "no Spin zone" refers to the fact that when OReilly has a guest on who starts reading off their spin, whatever it is, OReilly asks questions to cut through the spin. Again, sure OReilly is biased, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with Rather being biased when reporting the news.[/quote]
Well Said!
I also hit Drudge and MSNBC.com, it offers a lot of news headlines very quickly.
Sure FNC is biased. OReilly, Hannity, Greta, etc. THOSE PEOPLE AREN"T JOURNALISTS. They are commentators/opinion. I have no problem with them expressing their opinion/bias. The issue is when a straight 'news' program shows its bias, *while reporting the news*. Every time I've been listening to FNC during the weekday, if they have a Republican politician giving his opinion, they also have a Democrat.
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
The "no Spin zone" refers to the fact that when OReilly has a guest on who starts reading off their spin, whatever it is, OReilly asks questions to cut through the spin. Again, sure OReilly is biased, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with Rather being biased when reporting the news.[/quote]
Well Said!
usickenme
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What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
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you would lose that wager..while a majority of reporters are "liberal" (although I have yet to see a liberal sports or business reporter), majority of editors are conservative. The majority of media owners are conservative. Guess who make the decisions in newsrooms? That's right editors and owners. It is like autoworkers...they might be liberal but the product they put together is dictated by owners and managers. Additionally w
5 to 1?? Not even close. I'll bet you believe Limbaugh when he told you liberals took the word guillible out of the dictionary. It is just a ruse dreamed up by the GOP in the early 90's so that they may claim some sort of oppression. (the kind of stuff they decry minorities for)
read and learn kids...
http://www.fair.org/reports/journalist-survey.html
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
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you would lose that wager..while a majority of reporters are "liberal" (although I have yet to see a liberal sports or business reporter), majority of editors are conservative. The majority of media owners are conservative. Guess who make the decisions in newsrooms? That's right editors and owners. It is like autoworkers...they might be liberal but the product they put together is dictated by owners and managers. Additionally w
5 to 1?? Not even close. I'll bet you believe Limbaugh when he told you liberals took the word guillible out of the dictionary. It is just a ruse dreamed up by the GOP in the early 90's so that they may claim some sort of oppression. (the kind of stuff they decry minorities for)
read and learn kids...
http://www.fair.org/reports/journalist-survey.html
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http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/libemral.htm
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/143lkblo.asp
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040713c.asp
Just in case the constant bashing of Bush, Fox news, conservative authors and other conservatives in the majority of the major news media isn't enough to point you to reality.
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/143lkblo.asp
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040713c.asp
Just in case the constant bashing of Bush, Fox news, conservative authors and other conservatives in the majority of the major news media isn't enough to point you to reality.
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[quote name='Scrubking']http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/libemral.htm
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/143lkblo.asp
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040713c.asp
Just in case the constant bashing of Bush, Fox news, conservative authors and other conservatives in the majority of the major news media isn't enough to point you to reality.[/quote]
You need better sources. I love the first one in particular, where I found this statement (on the main page, not what you linked)
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/143lkblo.asp
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040713c.asp
Just in case the constant bashing of Bush, Fox news, conservative authors and other conservatives in the majority of the major news media isn't enough to point you to reality.[/quote]
You need better sources. I love the first one in particular, where I found this statement (on the main page, not what you linked)
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[quote name='alonzomourning23'][quote name='Scrubking']http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/libemral.htm
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/143lkblo.asp
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040713c.asp
Just in case the constant bashing of Bush, Fox news, conservative authors and other conservatives in the majority of the major news media isn't enough to point you to reality.[/quote]
You need better sources. I love the first one in particular, where I found this statement (on the main page, not what you linked)
Not to mention he links up to CBN.
You know, CBN, the network that brings you the hard truth about "Dreams and Visions: Understanding Your Dreams and How god Can Use Them to Speak to You Today" and "The Ten Offenses: In a rediscovery of the personal and national benefits of honoring the commandments and a piercing look at America’s rejection of them, Pat Robertson examines recent court decisions regarding public display of the ten commandments and explores... "
Oh yeah. That's where I want to get my news...
http://secure.mediaresearch.org/news/MediaBiasBasics.html
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/143lkblo.asp
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040713c.asp
Just in case the constant bashing of Bush, Fox news, conservative authors and other conservatives in the majority of the major news media isn't enough to point you to reality.[/quote]
You need better sources. I love the first one in particular, where I found this statement (on the main page, not what you linked)
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Not to mention he links up to CBN.
You know, CBN, the network that brings you the hard truth about "Dreams and Visions: Understanding Your Dreams and How god Can Use Them to Speak to You Today" and "The Ten Offenses: In a rediscovery of the personal and national benefits of honoring the commandments and a piercing look at America’s rejection of them, Pat Robertson examines recent court decisions regarding public display of the ten commandments and explores... "
Oh yeah. That's where I want to get my news...
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[quote name='dtcarson']Of the choices, Fox News.
I also hit Drudge and MSNBC.com, it offers a lot of news headlines very quickly.
Sure FNC is biased. OReilly, Hannity, Greta, etc. THOSE PEOPLE AREN"T JOURNALISTS. They are commentators/opinion. I have no problem with them expressing their opinion/bias. The issue is when a straight 'news' program shows its bias, *while reporting the news*. Every time I've been listening to FNC during the weekday, if they have a Republican politician giving his opinion, they also have a Democrat.
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
The "no Spin zone" refers to the fact that when OReilly has a guest on who starts reading off their spin, whatever it is, OReilly asks questions to cut through the spin. Again, sure OReilly is biased, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with Rather being biased when reporting the news.[/quote]
That's a wager you would lose. Look at the coverage of Bush's inauguration. The cable networks featured more rep/conservatives than dem/liberals. In CNN's case it was 10 to 1.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200501210001
I also hit Drudge and MSNBC.com, it offers a lot of news headlines very quickly.
Sure FNC is biased. OReilly, Hannity, Greta, etc. THOSE PEOPLE AREN"T JOURNALISTS. They are commentators/opinion. I have no problem with them expressing their opinion/bias. The issue is when a straight 'news' program shows its bias, *while reporting the news*. Every time I've been listening to FNC during the weekday, if they have a Republican politician giving his opinion, they also have a Democrat.
What are the ratios of liberals to conservatives in the MSM? I'd wager it's more than 5 to 1.
The "no Spin zone" refers to the fact that when OReilly has a guest on who starts reading off their spin, whatever it is, OReilly asks questions to cut through the spin. Again, sure OReilly is biased, I don't have a problem with that. I have a problem with Rather being biased when reporting the news.[/quote]
That's a wager you would lose. Look at the coverage of Bush's inauguration. The cable networks featured more rep/conservatives than dem/liberals. In CNN's case it was 10 to 1.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200501210001
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http://www.moveon.org/fox/
PWNED!!!!111!!
And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
And liberals are the one's who preach tolerance so YES you have to practice what you preach. Don't preach to me about how we have to be more tollerant of gays, illegals, drugs and other crap and then not be able to tollerate a different view point by constantly trying to shut them up by attacking them.
I swear you idiots are a joke. Where was the outrage when CNN made deals with Saddam to get exclusive interviews? Where were the liberal websites calling for CNN to shut down? Fox hasn't done anything remotely close to that and all you idiots want is to shut them up and shut them down.[/quote]
Have you actually read the Times or the Post? The Times spends more time kissing Bush's ass than you would believe. The times gave Kerry and Gore in the last two elections far more negative coverage than Bush.
http://www.moveon.org/fox/
PWNED!!!!111!!
And fox doesn't hide the fact that they lean conservative. Oreilly practically says it every night on his show. And you saying that their leaning conservative is unprofessional is laughable. What about every other media station that leans liberal? Are they unprofessional too? When the NY and Washington times bash Bush and conservatives every other day are they unprofessional? Give me a break - you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
And liberals are the one's who preach tolerance so YES you have to practice what you preach. Don't preach to me about how we have to be more tollerant of gays, illegals, drugs and other crap and then not be able to tollerate a different view point by constantly trying to shut them up by attacking them.
I swear you idiots are a joke. Where was the outrage when CNN made deals with Saddam to get exclusive interviews? Where were the liberal websites calling for CNN to shut down? Fox hasn't done anything remotely close to that and all you idiots want is to shut them up and shut them down.[/quote]
Have you actually read the Times or the Post? The Times spends more time kissing Bush's ass than you would believe. The times gave Kerry and Gore in the last two elections far more negative coverage than Bush.
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There's no Big Liberal Media conspiracy. It's a myth like the Loch Ness Monster and Ashlee Simpson's singing ability. Did you miss Clinton, Gore and Kerry getting raked over the coals in all media outlets not just Fox News? A good liberal media never would have let Dubya off the hook in 2000 for his lack of Guard service. A good liberal media would have demanded 9/11 hearings and it wouldn't have taken victims families to shame Bush into holding them. A good liberal media wouldn't fall for all the Janet Jackson boobie nonsense. They would be calling for universal health care, gay marriage, abortion rights, an end to war, etc. There's no Tooth Fairy either.
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I don't disagree that journalists are more liberal than the public at large. (Then again people who are college educated are more liberal as well)
But these surveys don't show any coorelation between a liberal journalist and an overall liberal press. My brother was a reporter for many years. He used to laugh that the notion that he was incapable of doing his job because of his politics. 95% they didn't even come into play. The other 5% he was easily able put his politics aside and write an objective story. It is part of being a professional. In my job I am certain that the vast majority of architects are liberal. Yet, no one cries about a liberal architecture bias. I also know that most contractors are conservative. Yet no one whines about the conservative construction bias. It is because we know people can set aside their politics and do the job at hand. I hate to disappoint you but journalists (outside the opinion pages) are the same way. Rush Limbaugh has said for many years that people become journalist because "they want to change the world". I asked my brother to take an informal poll at his school. He didn't get one 'change the world' answer but the answer he got the most was simply "I like to write".
But these surveys don't show any coorelation between a liberal journalist and an overall liberal press. My brother was a reporter for many years. He used to laugh that the notion that he was incapable of doing his job because of his politics. 95% they didn't even come into play. The other 5% he was easily able put his politics aside and write an objective story. It is part of being a professional. In my job I am certain that the vast majority of architects are liberal. Yet, no one cries about a liberal architecture bias. I also know that most contractors are conservative. Yet no one whines about the conservative construction bias. It is because we know people can set aside their politics and do the job at hand. I hate to disappoint you but journalists (outside the opinion pages) are the same way. Rush Limbaugh has said for many years that people become journalist because "they want to change the world". I asked my brother to take an informal poll at his school. He didn't get one 'change the world' answer but the answer he got the most was simply "I like to write".
bread's done