Fire Pro Wreslting 1 & 2
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probably the best wrestling series out there.
if you have never played a fire pro game before, it might be a bit confusing. its not like your standard wrasslin game.
if you have never played a fire pro game before, it might be a bit confusing. its not like your standard wrasslin game.
Ok... where to begin?
Firepro is my favorite wrestling series of all time.
Yes they are worth getting.
Theres a bit of a learning curve/feeling out process when you first start to play. Even if you hate it first, I implore you to keep playing it. Once you get the hang of it its an amazing game.
All the wrestlers are fictitious, but theyre based on real wrestlers. They dont have the same costumes and coloring of their real life counterparts (they do in the japanese versions), but you can edit them to look like they do in real life. And you can tell who they are by their moves and taunts. Yes there are MMA fighters in the game. I believe theres even a multisided octagon like cage/ring in the game. I know there is in the console version, and Im pretty sure its in the gba games as well. The MMA aspects of the game arent as fleshd out as the pro wrestling, and they dont work as well as a result. If your only thinking of getting Fipro for the MMA stuff..... ehhh.... you might be dissapointed.
Its all sprite based 2D hand animated goodness. But that does give it a certain 'old school' look and feel, so be prepared for that. The gameplay is very deep, and the grappling system is timing based, its not about button mashing, and its not as random as a rock,paper.scissors type of game.
Theres an edit mode where you can make your own guys, and there are lots of edit formulas for your favorite wrestler or mma fighter available on the intarwebs. Lots of faqs too.
The first one can be had pretty cheaply, you can probably find it for under $10. So I suggest trying it out and if you like it pick up the second game. The games arent that different tho, so only get both if you really like firepro.
Firepro is my favorite wrestling series of all time.
Yes they are worth getting.
Theres a bit of a learning curve/feeling out process when you first start to play. Even if you hate it first, I implore you to keep playing it. Once you get the hang of it its an amazing game.
All the wrestlers are fictitious, but theyre based on real wrestlers. They dont have the same costumes and coloring of their real life counterparts (they do in the japanese versions), but you can edit them to look like they do in real life. And you can tell who they are by their moves and taunts. Yes there are MMA fighters in the game. I believe theres even a multisided octagon like cage/ring in the game. I know there is in the console version, and Im pretty sure its in the gba games as well. The MMA aspects of the game arent as fleshd out as the pro wrestling, and they dont work as well as a result. If your only thinking of getting Fipro for the MMA stuff..... ehhh.... you might be dissapointed.
Its all sprite based 2D hand animated goodness. But that does give it a certain 'old school' look and feel, so be prepared for that. The gameplay is very deep, and the grappling system is timing based, its not about button mashing, and its not as random as a rock,paper.scissors type of game.
Theres an edit mode where you can make your own guys, and there are lots of edit formulas for your favorite wrestler or mma fighter available on the intarwebs. Lots of faqs too.
The first one can be had pretty cheaply, you can probably find it for under $10. So I suggest trying it out and if you like it pick up the second game. The games arent that different tho, so only get both if you really like firepro.
Let me be the voice of dissention. Fire Pro Wrestling 2 on the GBA controls rather clunky and is a pretty ugly game to look at. It's got bad music, and it just felt like an unsatisfying experience. The GBA titles aren't up to snuff with the much better console versions of Fire Pro Wrestling.
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I'm really curious now thanks to this thread about this series. Is there a DS title available or just GBA? How about for the GC? I like older style 2D graphics and haven't liked many wrestling titles in years.
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I can kinda see this point. The gba games are alot like the old snes firepros, which were great in their time, and still playable, but have been eclipsed by the much, much better looking and playing versions of the game that have been released for the Dreamcast & PS2. I still think you will get enjoyment out of these titles tho, especially if you are into pro wrestling.
[quote name='furyk']Let me be the voice of dissention. Fire Pro Wrestling 2 on the GBA controls rather clunky and is a pretty ugly game to look at. It's got bad music, and it just felt like an unsatisfying experience. The GBA titles aren't up to snuff with the much better console versions of Fire Pro Wrestling.[/quote]
[quote name='furyk']Let me be the voice of dissention. Fire Pro Wrestling 2 on the GBA controls rather clunky and is a pretty ugly game to look at. It's got bad music, and it just felt like an unsatisfying experience. The GBA titles aren't up to snuff with the much better console versions of Fire Pro Wrestling.[/quote]
no DS game...yet. Were hoping for one tho!
There are the 2 GBA games for firepro on the go.
For the consoles, theres a bunch, but nothing for the cube unfortuantely. Keep in mind that all these console firpos are Japanese games, and you need to be able to play imports to play them.
Super Fire Prowrestling X Premium (snes)
Fire ProWrestling S: 6 Men Scramble (Saturn)
Fire ProWrestling G (PS1)
Fire ProWrestling D (Dreamcast)
Fire ProWrestling Z (PS2)
Fire ProWrestling Returns (PS2)
I would reccomend the Dreamcast version, and Firepro R, the second game for the PS2. Thats the latest and greatest game in the series (I play it nearly everyday).
[quote name='rscaramelo']I'm really curious now thanks to this thread about this series. Is there a DS title available or just GBA? How about for the GC? I like older style 2D graphics and haven't liked many wrestling titles in years.
thanks,
RC[/quote]
There are the 2 GBA games for firepro on the go.
For the consoles, theres a bunch, but nothing for the cube unfortuantely. Keep in mind that all these console firpos are Japanese games, and you need to be able to play imports to play them.
Super Fire Prowrestling X Premium (snes)
Fire ProWrestling S: 6 Men Scramble (Saturn)
Fire ProWrestling G (PS1)
Fire ProWrestling D (Dreamcast)
Fire ProWrestling Z (PS2)
Fire ProWrestling Returns (PS2)
I would reccomend the Dreamcast version, and Firepro R, the second game for the PS2. Thats the latest and greatest game in the series (I play it nearly everyday).
[quote name='rscaramelo']I'm really curious now thanks to this thread about this series. Is there a DS title available or just GBA? How about for the GC? I like older style 2D graphics and haven't liked many wrestling titles in years.
thanks,
RC[/quote]
[quote name='Cmoore58']are the ps2 versions us or japan only ????????[/QUOTE]
Japanese. However you can get an english patch for Fire Pro Returns to make most of it in english. You will need the proper PS2 mods to play that though.
The FPW series are good but overrated. They do have a tremendous ammount of wrestlers, moves, and options which is why people do like them.
The gameplay isnt so great (most people seem to just simulate CPU vs CPU matches most of the time because of this) and the graphics are simple. I personally enjoy the 2d sprites but I can easily see it turning some people off.
If you are a casual wrestling fan I wouldnt reccomend it, stick with the Smackdown series for PS2 or the DoR on Gamcube. If you are more then casual then definately check this out, its worth the $25 easily.
Japanese. However you can get an english patch for Fire Pro Returns to make most of it in english. You will need the proper PS2 mods to play that though.
The FPW series are good but overrated. They do have a tremendous ammount of wrestlers, moves, and options which is why people do like them.
The gameplay isnt so great (most people seem to just simulate CPU vs CPU matches most of the time because of this) and the graphics are simple. I personally enjoy the 2d sprites but I can easily see it turning some people off.
If you are a casual wrestling fan I wouldnt reccomend it, stick with the Smackdown series for PS2 or the DoR on Gamcube. If you are more then casual then definately check this out, its worth the $25 easily.
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I find the gameplay to be fantastic for the series. It has some small flaws (no dives off the top to guys lying on the floor), but nothing that takes away from my matches, and it accurately allows you to have matches in multiple styles - which can't be said for most stuff released now in the U.S. The GBA ones are a great starting point, and I'd also recommend the DC one if you want an inexpensive, but feature-laden Firepro.
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It's not everyone's cuppa tea, and it has a steep, but short, learning curve. Once you get the hang of the game, it isn't challenging at all. It's still very realistic and amazing.
I'd recommend, also, the King of Colosseum games for PS2. They are 3-D Fire Pro style wrestling games, but they also have a MMA aspect, which controls very differently (so it's like having two games in one). Now, I don't know so much about MMA games, save for DreamCast UFC, so I have little basis of comparison; I'd recommend it anyway.
I'd recommend, also, the King of Colosseum games for PS2. They are 3-D Fire Pro style wrestling games, but they also have a MMA aspect, which controls very differently (so it's like having two games in one). Now, I don't know so much about MMA games, save for DreamCast UFC, so I have little basis of comparison; I'd recommend it anyway.
Buy at least one of them (preferably 2). You can get it for next to nothing, so if you don't like it, no big loss. The Fire Pro games are impossible at first, but if you knock the difficulty way down to learn the timing and approach to the game, you'll never forget it, and can have some pretty damn exciting matches when you start cranking the difficulty up.
If you DO like it, pick up a copy of Fire Pro Wrestling D for Dreamcast (since imports are easy to get going on the DC...just get a Gameshark or boot disc). Fire Pro Returns for the PS2 is slightly better, but FPD is well worth your time if you don't want to mess with your PS2 to play imports.
King of the Colosseum isn't bad. Some of the loading times can be frustrating, but if you dig the Fire Pro games you'll probably like it. One thing that IS really cool about KotC is you can have CPU vs. CPU matches that are actually entertaining to watch, which is a rarity.
It drives me nuts that no DS version has been announced yet. They said a couple years back that Spike was working on a "wrestling game" for the DS, but nothing since then. There's a ton they could do with the dual screens...information for your wrestler's health (arm/leg/body/etc), how the crowd is reacting...sigh. Since the DS is kicking PSP ass in Japan I'm still holding out hope that one is eventually coming.
If you DO like it, pick up a copy of Fire Pro Wrestling D for Dreamcast (since imports are easy to get going on the DC...just get a Gameshark or boot disc). Fire Pro Returns for the PS2 is slightly better, but FPD is well worth your time if you don't want to mess with your PS2 to play imports.
King of the Colosseum isn't bad. Some of the loading times can be frustrating, but if you dig the Fire Pro games you'll probably like it. One thing that IS really cool about KotC is you can have CPU vs. CPU matches that are actually entertaining to watch, which is a rarity.
It drives me nuts that no DS version has been announced yet. They said a couple years back that Spike was working on a "wrestling game" for the DS, but nothing since then. There's a ton they could do with the dual screens...information for your wrestler's health (arm/leg/body/etc), how the crowd is reacting...sigh. Since the DS is kicking PSP ass in Japan I'm still holding out hope that one is eventually coming.
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The GBA versions capture the spirit of the Fire Pro series very well, but Fire Pro D and Fire Pro R are simply two of the best wrestling games out there. For $10, I can't see where you would go wrong. Just the movelist alone in the GBA version is impressive. If you're not familiar with Japanese wrestling, you'll be in for a treat when you see some of the moves.
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I have both the GBA games, and I can easily say that Fire Pro is overall superior to Fire Pro 2. Fire Pro uses the "Audience Mode," in which the objective is impressing the audience in each of the wrestling styles, as its career mode. Fire Pro 2's career mode is just the generic "win all the matches without getting injured."
However, Fire Pro 2 may be worth getting because of the training mode, more wrestlers, and, as a result, more CAW objects and moves.
However, Fire Pro 2 may be worth getting because of the training mode, more wrestlers, and, as a result, more CAW objects and moves.
[quote name='Cmoore58']I've heard some stuff about it, is it worth getting? I have heard it has MMA characters in it also.[/quote]
It's got Josh Barnett and Bas Rutten in it. Although they used made up names, you can tell its them.
I don't really like it, but my friend is a big fan of it.
It's got Josh Barnett and Bas Rutten in it. Although they used made up names, you can tell its them.
I don't really like it, but my friend is a big fan of it.
[quote name='Cao Cao']I have both the GBA games, and I can easily say that Fire Pro is overall superior to Fire Pro 2. Fire Pro uses the "Audience Mode," in which the objective is impressing the audience in each of the wrestling styles, as its career mode.[/QUOTE]
Can't agree there. While audience mode is a novel concept, in execution it is kind of hit-and-miss. I suppose it would help a bit of the game was in English, but even with the translation some of the more difficult tasks make it a bit more tedious than I'd like.
I'd argue that the heart of Fire Pro, once you get the hang of the gameplay, is the CAW mode. In that regard, FPW2 is superior....in regards to this series, more = better.
If only those lazy bastards had ported over the Management of Ring mode from the Japanese version....THEN I doubt there would be any debate.
One thing to definitiely keep in mind - unfortunately, the timing of the GBA games and the console incarnations is a bit different. When I went from FPD to the GBA games, I got destroyed on the low difficulty because you really have to reeducate yourself (the GBA games require you to excute the move a split second sooner than the console games).
Can't agree there. While audience mode is a novel concept, in execution it is kind of hit-and-miss. I suppose it would help a bit of the game was in English, but even with the translation some of the more difficult tasks make it a bit more tedious than I'd like.
I'd argue that the heart of Fire Pro, once you get the hang of the gameplay, is the CAW mode. In that regard, FPW2 is superior....in regards to this series, more = better.
If only those lazy bastards had ported over the Management of Ring mode from the Japanese version....THEN I doubt there would be any debate.
One thing to definitiely keep in mind - unfortunately, the timing of the GBA games and the console incarnations is a bit different. When I went from FPD to the GBA games, I got destroyed on the low difficulty because you really have to reeducate yourself (the GBA games require you to excute the move a split second sooner than the console games).
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This series is great. Fire Pro Wrestling S: 6 Men Scramble was my first import game. Really Awesome.
The first GBA 1 is good. It takes a bit to get used to the control playing with a GBA at first. (In other words you need to turn the difficulty down some). Once you get used to it, it is good.
I've not played the second one so I can't comment on it.
The first GBA 1 is good. It takes a bit to get used to the control playing with a GBA at first. (In other words you need to turn the difficulty down some). Once you get used to it, it is good.
I've not played the second one so I can't comment on it.
I have to agree with Kanerobot that Audience mode in the first gba game is a hit or miss proposition. The idea sounds great, but the reality is anything but.
I played thru it as HHH, and I'd have a long back n forth match in which I hit every possible move from every position, and the match would rate a 65%. Then I'd have a 5 minute squash where I quickly destroyed my opponent and it would get a 85% rating. I tried to experiment in matches by only utilising certain types of moves and I could never figure out what the game was looking for.
For a first time Firepro player, either game would be fine. I recccomend the first game because its like half the price of part 2.
I played thru it as HHH, and I'd have a long back n forth match in which I hit every possible move from every position, and the match would rate a 65%. Then I'd have a 5 minute squash where I quickly destroyed my opponent and it would get a 85% rating. I tried to experiment in matches by only utilising certain types of moves and I could never figure out what the game was looking for.
For a first time Firepro player, either game would be fine. I recccomend the first game because its like half the price of part 2.
Am I the only one who thinks FirePro 2 on GBA is really hard? Having to win 5 tag matches in a row, without regaining health between matches, is what really kills me. And when your health is at such a premium, it's a pain to lose matches because your CPU controlled tag-parter keeps getting his ass kicked (and since it's tornado rules, there's really no way around that). I've managed to beat that a couple of times but usually I just stick to easy mode because it's a lot less frustrating.
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Where can I get this for gba? I don't think it's available for any of my other systems - 360, GC, DS, PSP or PS1. I already posted in the deal request section.
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[quote name='rscaramelo']Where can I get this for gba? I don't think it's available for any of my other systems - 360, GC, DS, PSP or PS1. I already posted in the deal request section.[/quote]
- Your best bet is probably eBay for the GBA version.
As for a console version, out of the systems you listed, the PS1 has Fire Pro G. It is an import game, so you would need some way to play import games. That being said, Fire Pro G is one of the weaker games in the series. The Battle Royal mode only has 4 wrestlers at a time, compared to 6 for Fire Pro S (Saturn) and 8 for Fire Pro D (Dreamcast).
- Your best bet is probably eBay for the GBA version.
As for a console version, out of the systems you listed, the PS1 has Fire Pro G. It is an import game, so you would need some way to play import games. That being said, Fire Pro G is one of the weaker games in the series. The Battle Royal mode only has 4 wrestlers at a time, compared to 6 for Fire Pro S (Saturn) and 8 for Fire Pro D (Dreamcast).
Is there some sort of comprehensive guide for either of the GBA Fire Pro games that covers how to edit all the wrestlers so that they look like their real-life counterparts? I've found guides for what to change their names to, and guides that cover how to make all sorts of extra wrestlers from scratch, but never one that, say, tells you how to edit "Steve Steel" so that he actually looks like Steve Austin.
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[quote name='Cmoore58']I've heard some stuff about it, is it worth getting? I have heard it has MMA characters in it also.[/QUOTE]
For one thing they're both the same exact game, only part one has more modes, while part 2 has a few new moves. With that said, it's the second best portable wrestling title (right behind SD!vsRaw06 on PSP).
For one thing they're both the same exact game, only part one has more modes, while part 2 has a few new moves. With that said, it's the second best portable wrestling title (right behind SD!vsRaw06 on PSP).
I could be tempted to sell my Fire Pro Wrestling 2 if the right offer came along... it's not a bootleg and comes with cart + manual. Not sure if I want to go through with it, but I have more complete Firepro's on other systems... the ones for GBA are still pretty fun though.
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I'm gonna check out one of the GBA versions today... have been interested in the series for years but have yet to really play one.
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I'm still trying to get the hang of FPW1 for GBA 
I'm grabbing a PS2 soon. Are there any good wresting games that aren't imports. The system won't be outfitted for that, at least not until I learn how to.
RC
I'm grabbing a PS2 soon. Are there any good wresting games that aren't imports. The system won't be outfitted for that, at least not until I learn how to.
RC
[quote name='rscaramelo']I'm still trying to get the hang of FPW1 for GBA
I'm grabbing a PS2 soon. Are there any good wresting games that aren't imports. The system won't be outfitted for that, at least not until I learn how to.
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Theres the Smackdown games for the PS2. Im not a big fan but alot of people seem to like them. If you can deal with the hiphop themes, the first two Def Jam games are actually very good. Theyre made by AKI, the developer responsible for those great N64 wrestling games.
However, I strongly suggest you work out how to play imports on your ps2. Its not that hard at all. Because if you do, you can play the best wrestling games this gen (or is it last gen now?), and maybe the two best wrestling games ever, Fire Prowrestling R, and King of Colosseum II.
I'm grabbing a PS2 soon. Are there any good wresting games that aren't imports. The system won't be outfitted for that, at least not until I learn how to.
RC[/quote]
Theres the Smackdown games for the PS2. Im not a big fan but alot of people seem to like them. If you can deal with the hiphop themes, the first two Def Jam games are actually very good. Theyre made by AKI, the developer responsible for those great N64 wrestling games.
However, I strongly suggest you work out how to play imports on your ps2. Its not that hard at all. Because if you do, you can play the best wrestling games this gen (or is it last gen now?), and maybe the two best wrestling games ever, Fire Prowrestling R, and King of Colosseum II.
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Damn, Fire Pro Wrestling is pretty fun, and highly unique. The learning curve wasen't bad at all, but I didnt know what the hell to do at first :lol: It took me like an hour to get used to it and now I'm getting better... one thing though: can you recover stamina by taunting?
[quote name='Rozz']Damn, Fire Pro Wrestling is pretty fun, and highly unique. The learning curve wasen't bad at all, but I didnt know what the hell to do at first :lol: It took me like an hour to get used to it and now I'm getting better... one thing though: can you recover stamina by taunting?[/quote]
Taunting wont recover stamina, but it will lower your opponents spirit! lol
Theres a 'breathe' button that recovers stamina. You cant move or do anything while you hold it down, but you will recover some energy.
Taunting wont recover stamina, but it will lower your opponents spirit! lol
Theres a 'breathe' button that recovers stamina. You cant move or do anything while you hold it down, but you will recover some energy.
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[quote name='Puffa469']Taunting wont recover stamina, but it will lower your opponents spirit! lol
Theres a 'breathe' button that recovers stamina. You cant move or do anything while you hold it down, but you will recover some energy.[/quote]
.... so what's the breath button? Everything on the game is set to default if that helps. Also, thanks for helping out a Fire Pro n00b, I might actually import the PS2 versions as I hear it's easy to get imports up and running on the PS2...
Theres a 'breathe' button that recovers stamina. You cant move or do anything while you hold it down, but you will recover some energy.[/quote]
.... so what's the breath button? Everything on the game is set to default if that helps. Also, thanks for helping out a Fire Pro n00b, I might actually import the PS2 versions as I hear it's easy to get imports up and running on the PS2...
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The L trigger is the "breathe" button.
Thanks, its been awhile since I played the GBA versions and I wasnt sure which button was for breathing.
You'll know when your doing it right cos your guy will be immobile, and his stance will change, he will slump over a bit and be visibly breathing heavy.
You'll know when your doing it right cos your guy will be immobile, and his stance will change, he will slump over a bit and be visibly breathing heavy.
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[quote name='Puffa469']Thanks, its been awhile since I played the GBA versions and I wasnt sure which button was for breathing.
You'll know when your doing it right cos your guy will be immobile, and his stance will change, he will slump over a bit and be visibly breathing heavy.[/quote]
Yeah, I figured it out.
This is a really great wrestling game. I chose the first one over the second because it was cheaper, easier to track down and for the mode where you have to impress the audience sounded really cool (and it is!).
You'll know when your doing it right cos your guy will be immobile, and his stance will change, he will slump over a bit and be visibly breathing heavy.[/quote]
Yeah, I figured it out.
This is a really great wrestling game. I chose the first one over the second because it was cheaper, easier to track down and for the mode where you have to impress the audience sounded really cool (and it is!).
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I got Fire Pro 1 at launch and had a good time with it. Does Fire Pro 2 add enough features for it to be worth my while to track down at this late stage in the game?
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[quote name='DaBargainHunta']I got Fire Pro 1 at launch and had a good time with it. Does Fire Pro 2 add enough features for it to be worth my while to track down at this late stage in the game?[/quote]
According to hardcore fans it's basically more of the same.
According to hardcore fans it's basically more of the same.
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