Game Boy Evolution, the DS Palm Pilot, and Spong...

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http://news.spong.com/detail/news.asp?prid=8385

I mean, you've got to give it to Spong. They've successful merged like 4 different rumors into a cohesive whole... that actually makes a lot of sense. Truth or lies... that doesn't matter... this kind of stuff takes talent.

If it is true, Nintendo is a lot smarter in the handheld market then they ever put on. Take an idea that a smaller company without influence made (Tapwave...), put your own spin on it... spin it off ass its own product line. For us gamers that grew up with Nintendo and are now about to enter the professional world... this make a crap load of sense. Not mature in the blood and guts sense, but mature in the productivity and functionality sense. Good god I hope this is true.

**THIS IS A RUMOR... SPECULATION... PROBABLY UTTER CRAP... REMEMBER THAT**
 
Also, if it built with GCN hardware (but not necessarily using the mini discs) I can totally see why Nintendo is insisting Mario 128 and the new Zelda are GCN games and not for the Revolution... I'd gladly pay $20 or so for older GCN games in GBE format to play on the go if the saves were compatible... this could be some sweet shit.
 
stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket
stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket!!!!!!

They JUST released the DS. This is unbelievable.
 
This is what I've been expecting all along. This is pretty much the DS' nail in the coffin. Instead of becoming a revolutionary handheld, it's now reduced to nothing more than a fancy PDA and N64 emulator. I'm sure that's what we all wanted when we through down $150, eh?

But I am excited about the GBE. I always wanted Nintendo to just give us a straight forward and advanced handheld that does nothing more than just play great games.

The addition of the Cube library would be very cool, but I wonder what kind of format it will come in.

I'm sure it would still be too expensive to try to fit huge games on any kind of SD card, especially some the size of Gamecube games. So I wonder if Nintendo will opt to go with a mini disc. If so, then I don't see why they couldn't use the Cube's software format and go from there.

It would probably be the least expensive way to go.
 
Even if this is true, I am still thrilled with my DS. I have two games now and have at least a half dozen more that I want to get.

The next Gameboy will be a must-buy for me, no matter what. Probably not at launch, though, but I'll get one sometime or another.
 
[quote name='Scorch']stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket
stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket!!!!!!

They JUST released the DS. This is unbelievable.[/quote]

Yeah, its funny how reps at nintendo were quick to point the finger at microsoft and accuse them of hurting the videogame industry by releasing a next gen system too early. Sorry but releasing three handhelds in three years
does not sound like it helps the market either.
 
Also, I wonder what this news will signal for some of the games in development for the DS. I'm sure most companies will now opt to wait and develop their games for the GBE.

That would be the smarter thing to do, especially now that the DS is dead.
 
[quote name='basketkase543'][quote name='Scorch']stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket
stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket!!!!!!

They JUST released the DS. This is unbelievable.[/quote]

Yeah, its funny how reps at nintendo were quick to point the finger at microsoft and accuse them of hurting the videogame industry by releasing a next gen system too early. Sorry but releasing three handhelds in three years
does not sound like it helps the market either.[/quote]IMO the microsoft thing only hurts microsoft
 
[quote name='javeryh']Also, if it built with GCN hardware (but not necessarily using the mini discs) I can totally see why Nintendo is insisting Mario 128 and the new Zelda are GCN games and not for the Revolution... I'd gladly pay $20 or so for older GCN games in GBE format to play on the go if the saves were compatible... this could be some sweet shit.[/quote]

The 2005 Zelda will have to be GCN due to the timeframe of its release. However, Mario 128 I have a feeling will be a Revolution title. Maybe they'll shock us and have it out by the year's end, though.
 
If this means a price drop for the SP in May I'll be pissed! I just bought an SP and probably could have waited another couple months to save another $30. If the price drop doesn't come until the system is released though it won't be a big deal. The addition of the GC library doesn't excite me too much cause it won't be like you can use your current games. Sure it would be cool to play all those games on the go, but buying the games twice does not appeal to this cheapass.
 
This is very interesting, but since I am getting the PSP I wont be getting the GBE for awhile, because I don't need anymore handhelds for a long while. I'll probably think about getting the GBE around a year after it comes out.
 
[quote name='chickenhawk']If this means a price drop for the SP in May I'll be pissed! I just bought an SP and probably could have waited another couple months to save another $30. If the price drop doesn't come until the system is released though it won't be a big deal. The addition of the GC library doesn't excite me too much cause it won't be like you can use your current games. Sure it would be cool to play all those games on the go, but buying the games twice does not appeal to this cheapass.[/quote]

they could simply use gamecube disks, its not like they're big or anything...
 
[quote name='basketkase543'][quote name='Scorch']stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket
stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket!!!!!!

They JUST released the DS. This is unbelievable.[/quote]

Yeah, its funny how reps at nintendo were quick to point the finger at microsoft and accuse them of hurting the videogame industry by releasing a next gen system too early. Sorry but releasing three handhelds in three years
does not sound like it helps the market either.[/quote]

3 Handhelds in 3 years? Um, last time I checked GBA came out in 2001 and technically GBASP wasn't a NEW system (which came out in 2002 if I remember correctly), just a "Deluxe" version of the GBA (kinda how Sony introduced the PSTwo.....its a slight UPGRADE, not necessarily a new system). And the DS has been repeatedly touted as a 3rd Pillar, DIFFERENT FROM THE GAMEBOY LINE OF PRODUCTS. And just because DS CAN play GBA games, that doesn't make it a Gameboy. Gamecube can play GBA games via the GBA Player, so does that make Gamecube a Gameboy system?

So getting a COMPLETELY NEW Gameboy system, FOUR YEARS after the release of the latest Gameboy upgrade is not a bad thing IMO.

And DS is great. I'm thouroughly enjoying the 4 games I have, and I'm looking forward to just about all the other games that have been announced.

Some people need to think this through a bit......would you rather have a system with 300 rehashed and essentially similar games, or a system with 50 new and original games? :wink:
 
i will honestly shit my pants if microsoft unveils a handheld thats as powerful as the new xbox and have the games compatible between the two of them. cuz then u could go from the console to the handheld hmmm...maybe thats y its called 360. yea i can dream
 
[quote name='Scorch']lol @ pumbaa reposting a topic he had already replied in..[/quote]

In my defense... the OP o' the other thread edited the damn thing. Lock it up if need be.
 
I wish stupid people people would learn the difference between throw and through.

and spong is totally unreliable

and next gameboy better be 2D only.

none of this stupid psp 3d crap
 
[quote name='DenisDFat']I wish stupid people people would learn the difference between throw and through.[/quote]

Yeah, me too, but you forgot thru and threw.
 
[quote name='Gameboy415'][quote name='basketkase543'][quote name='Scorch']stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket
stopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarketstopfloodingthemarket!!!!!!

They JUST released the DS. This is unbelievable.[/quote]

Yeah, its funny how reps at nintendo were quick to point the finger at microsoft and accuse them of hurting the videogame industry by releasing a next gen system too early. Sorry but releasing three handhelds in three years
does not sound like it helps the market either.[/quote]

3 Handhelds in 3 years? Um, last time I checked GBA came out in 2001 and technically GBASP wasn't a NEW system (which came out in 2002 if I remember correctly), just a "Deluxe" version of the GBA (kinda how Sony introduced the PSTwo.....its a slight UPGRADE, not necessarily a new system). And the DS has been repeatedly touted as a 3rd Pillar, DIFFERENT FROM THE GAMEBOY LINE OF PRODUCTS. And just because DS CAN play GBA games, that doesn't make it a Gameboy. Gamecube can play GBA games via the GBA Player, so does that make Gamecube a Gameboy system?

So getting a COMPLETELY NEW Gameboy system, FOUR YEARS after the release of the latest Gameboy upgrade is not a bad thing IMO.

And DS is great. I'm thouroughly enjoying the 4 games I have, and I'm looking forward to just about all the other games that have been announced.

Some people need to think this through a bit......would you rather have a system with 300 rehashed and essentially similar games, or a system with 50 new and original games? :wink:[/quote]


Rehashed like Mario 64 DS? I'm not seeing how the PSP is anymore or less a rehash system than the DS is.
 
This is utter nonsense. The cost of the GameCube hardware with the addition of a substantial battery and a 640x480 screen would be VERY pricey compared to the required $100 ceiling for a GameBoy. Keep in mind that the GC chipset was not engineered with low power draw as a primary issue. On top of this we're supposed to throw in a drive to handle existing GC discs which would be quite power hungry and bulky compared to the PSP's UMD mechanism. This unit would cost more than the DS and have a battery life that made the PSP seem like an endurance champion by comparison.

NFW. This is just rumor building on yet another rumor. I've yet to see a shred of evidence Nintendo was ever seriously looking at the GameCube as the basis of a handheld platform. At best they may have pursued more penetration into the vehicular entertainment merket. That would be a far cry fromt he requirements for a handheld.
 
[quote name='jimbodan'][quote name='evilmax17']:roll: Spong :roll:[/quote]

My thoughts exactly

Take what they say with a HUGE grain of salt[/quote]

dont you mean TINY grain of salt?
 
It turns out that PJ McNealy has been wildly misquoted by the idiots at CNN.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=7073

What he actually suggested was that Nintendo will probably have another model of the GBA with added features to fill the $99 slot. This could have an improved screen like that of the DS and wireless built-in. All features that are backward compatible to earlier models and don't required developers to treat it as a new platform.
 
[quote name='epobirs']This is utter nonsense. The cost of the GameCube hardware with the addition of a substantial battery and a 640x480 screen would be VERY pricey compared to the required $100 ceiling for a GameBoy. Keep in mind that the GC chipset was not engineered with low power draw as a primary issue. On top of this we're supposed to throw in a drive to handle existing GC discs which would be quite power hungry and bulky compared to the PSP's UMD mechanism. This unit would cost more than the DS and have a battery life that made the PSP seem like an endurance champion by comparison.

NFW. This is just rumor building on yet another rumor. I've yet to see a shred of evidence Nintendo was ever seriously looking at the GameCube as the basis of a handheld platform. At best they may have pursued more penetration into the vehicular entertainment merket. That would be a far cry fromt he requirements for a handheld.[/quote]

I thought all this talk was for a system that was going to use Gamecube hardware but not necessarily the discs - maybe a 1.8GB card or something that has the exact GCN games on it. This way they could sell more software and have the saves be compatible. That would be sweet...
 
[quote name='punqsux'][quote name='chickenhawk']If this means a price drop for the SP in May I'll be pissed! I just bought an SP and probably could have waited another couple months to save another $30. If the price drop doesn't come until the system is released though it won't be a big deal. The addition of the GC library doesn't excite me too much cause it won't be like you can use your current games. Sure it would be cool to play all those games on the go, but buying the games twice does not appeal to this cheapass.[/quote]

they could simply use gamecube disks, its not like they're big or anything...[/quote]

True. If they use GC discs then I am excited. If not, than I'm not. :)
 
[quote name='javeryh'][quote name='epobirs']This is utter nonsense. The cost of the GameCube hardware with the addition of a substantial battery and a 640x480 screen would be VERY pricey compared to the required $100 ceiling for a GameBoy. Keep in mind that the GC chipset was not engineered with low power draw as a primary issue. On top of this we're supposed to throw in a drive to handle existing GC discs which would be quite power hungry and bulky compared to the PSP's UMD mechanism. This unit would cost more than the DS and have a battery life that made the PSP seem like an endurance champion by comparison.

NFW. This is just rumor building on yet another rumor. I've yet to see a shred of evidence Nintendo was ever seriously looking at the GameCube as the basis of a handheld platform. At best they may have pursued more penetration into the vehicular entertainment merket. That would be a far cry fromt he requirements for a handheld.[/quote]

I thought all this talk was for a system that was going to use Gamecube hardware but not necessarily the discs - maybe a 1.8GB card or something that has the exact GCN games on it. This way they could sell more software and have the saves be compatible. That would be sweet...[/quote]

No, that would be outrageously expensive. You're talking about a format with a manufacturing cost considerably greater than the retail price of top console releases.

Nintendo is sharply aware of mask ROM costs and every company with a proposed alternative in solid state memories is knocking on their door with samples in hand. (One of the problems is that many of these concept require and expensive read mechanism, especially when compared to just mapping ROM directly to the system bus.) So far, none of those alternative has proven viable for game systems. The DS currently has a ceiling of 128 MB for games not because of any technical limitation but because it is incredibly unlikely any publisher will come up with a product that merits the cost of a larger capacity.

DS games may reach up to 512 MB in the system's lifetime, if you figure about five years for the product. Matching the capacity of GC discs is much further down the road than GameCube development support will continue. At that point there may be a portable game system that gets ports of a lot of the GC library but it isn't going to be a version of the GameCube any more than the GBA is a version of the SNES.
 
[quote name='Grave_Addiction']Also, I wonder what this news will signal for some of the games in development for the DS. I'm sure most companies will now opt to wait and develop their games for the GBE.

That would be the smarter thing to do, especially now that the DS is dead.[/quote]

Why do people keep saying the DS is dead? Is it the sales??? NO. The DS has an overall sales lead on the PSP by quite a large margin. The PSP sells like 60,000 units while the DS sells like 40,000-45,000 units. Expected as the PSP is newer. Is it the feedback?? NO. Everyone that I know is more than happy with their purchase and eagerly await the upcoming titles. But, the DS is dead.....out since November, has sales approaching 3,000,000 units worldwide, if I'm doing my math correctly, and a library of great titles forthcoming.

Two completely different handhelds capable of doing different things. The DS is NOT the follow-up to the GBA, so why does the next GameBoy put the nail in the coffin of the DS. I know I'll continue to buy for both and I'm sure that's what Nintendo is banking on. Your purchases will depend on what games you're into. Stating that the DS is dead or dying is extremely shortsighted and rather ignorant of the facts prevalent in the market.
 
People keeps saying the DS is dead because they dont want it to succeed, simple as that.

A lot of people feel that by saying it alot it will magically come true but all that happens is they end up beleiving their own lie.
 
Yawn... We hear this rumour all the time now, and I still do not believe it.

Nintendo couldn't figure out what to do right with two systems nevermind 5.
 
[quote name='David85']Yawn... We hear this rumour all the time now, and I still do not believe it.

Nintendo couldn't figure out what to do right with two systems nevermind 5.[/quote]

The GBA was really such a mishandled system.
 
[quote name='pumbaa'][quote name='David85']Yawn... We hear this rumour all the time now, and I still do not believe it.

Nintendo couldn't figure out what to do right with two systems nevermind 5.[/quote]

The GBA was really such a mishandled system.[/quote]

I'm sensing sarcasm.
 
[quote name='Alpha2']People keeps saying the DS is dead because they dont want it to succeed, simple as that.

A lot of people feel that by saying it alot it will magically come true but all that happens is they end up beleiving their own lie.[/quote]

I'm inclined to agree and I find it to be incredibly strange. What do people care if the DS succeeds or fails, which it is far from doing? Can't we all just enjoy the games and the consoles that are released. The DS provides a unique experience and I think there are truely few gamers that would honestly HATE it if they sat down with one for some time.

It's sad. As gamers, we should pray that all the consoles do good, because the only thing that spurs an industry such as this forward is competition. We all want better games and new experiences....thats the point of gaming and that cannot be done if one company is doing whatever they want.
 
GUH!? You have to look at it this way:

in the forum microcosm of CAG...

'FOMG DS IS DEAD FOREVAR.'

in the real world...

'3,000,000'

Looking at this title list for 2005, i cant really tell that its a dead system.
Cheap ass link

Got to look at the big picture here. Alot of people seem to make stupid statements all the time here regarding the DS. Im guessing they dont have the system or the full picture. Frustrating-but i shouldnt give a crap.Cheap ass link
 
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