House Members: $1,000,000+ For Personal Vehicle Leases

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WASHINGTON - Taxpayers paid more than $1 million last year for members of Congress to lease vehicles, including dozens of gas-guzzling SUVs and expensive luxury cars.

Some members of Congress use their office budgets to lease Lexuses, Lincolns, Cadillacs, an Infiniti, even a BMW 530i, which one auto critic called "one of the world's best sport luxury sedans." The lease prices of some cars topped $1,000 a month.

A few leased two cars on the taxpayers' dime; two lawmakers leased three.

Leasing cars is a little-known perk used by 136 members of the 435-member House of Representatives in 2005. The Senate doesn't allow its members to lease cars with their office budgets. Last year, the House leases cost at least $1.05 million. Taxpayers also paid for hundreds of thousands of dollars more in gas and insurance.

Defenders of the system say that leasing cars can be cheaper than reimbursing lawmakers for driving their own cars through districts that often sprawl over thousands of miles. If members and staff use their own cars on official business, the House reimburses them a maximum of 44.5 cents per mile.

Can be a good deal

Critics agree that the practice can be a good deal for taxpayers when members lease efficient, inexpensive cars.

For example, Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., leased a Honda Accord that cost less than $215 a month - and got good mileage to boot.

"She wanted something responsible with the taxpayers' dollars," said Andy Polk, Myrick's spokesman. "It's appropriate, and it gets the job done."

But too often, critics say, members of Congress choose luxury. They say that's especially troubling when lawmakers are dealing with soaring budget deficits by cutting dozens of popular federal programs, such as student loans.

"If they're telling everybody to tighten their belts and they're leasing these luxury cars, it just doesn't fly in Peoria," said Keith Ashdown, vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan watchdog group.

Indeed, members of Congress could lease less expensive - and less flashy - cars through the General Services Administration, the federal government's purchasing agency, which negotiates bulk lease prices for the federal government. SUVs can be leased through the GSA for as little as $300 a month, according to the GSA Web site. Four-door, midsize sedans cost $258 a month.

SUVs top list

The most expensive vehicle leased was a Ford Expedition for Rep. Michael Ross, D-Ark., for $1,248.31 a month. The cheapest: a Chevrolet Tahoe leased by Rep. John Carter, R-Texas, for $210.65 a month.

Many members report only the cost of a lease and not the make or model of the vehicle. The most popular models identified were SUVs: 19 members of Congress reported leasing the Chevrolet Tahoe or its twin, the GMC Yukon. They get about 15 miles per gallon in the city.

House Majority Whip Roy Blunt, R-Mo., whose district covers 5,500 oft-remote miles in southwestern Missouri, leases a Tahoe for $903.80 a month.

"Because his district is rather spread out and he frequently takes a lot of staff with him, this is the vehicle he's used for some time," spokeswoman Burson Taylor said.

Lawmakers in luxury

Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., tools around his 16-square-mile Manhattan district in a Cadillac DeVille that costs nearly $1,000 a month. In nearby Queens, Democratic Rep. Gregory Meeks chose a Lexus for $1,062.85 a month.

Neither Rangel's nor Meeks' office returned calls.

Ross, whose Arkansas district covers nearly 21,000 square miles, spent the most taxpayer money on cars in 2005: a total of $36,343.84 for an Expedition, a Ford 500 and a Ford Crown Victoria.

The median annual income of Ross' constituents is about $30,000, according to the U.S. Census.

Ross' leases are expensive because they're short-term and high mileage, said Rachel Kleinman, his spokeswoman - although so are most other lawmakers' leases. She said she didn't know whether Ross had shopped around for a better deal.

"He's done the math forward and backward, and this is what's most cost-effective for us," Kleinman said.

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/14077359.htm
 
Public servents? Pfft!

People wonder why the public hates politicians? Its this type of hypocrisy that leads to it. Now the question is, do these politicians also get a car/limo service in addition to their free rentals?
 
Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C., leased a Honda Accord that cost less than $215 a month - and got good mileage to boot.

"She wanted something responsible with the taxpayers' dollars," said Andy Polk, Myrick's spokesman. "It's appropriate, and it gets the job done."

:applause:
 
Awesome! Nothing like tax dollars well spent. I say let them lease an Enzo Ferrari! Not only are they stylish, these cars have a whopping 8 mpg in the city and 12 on the highway! WOW! Plus, the top speed is over 200 mph! Even better for these politicians since they could easily drive through their district in record time and be able to go home early because their job is just so stressful!
 
A luxury lexus IS a total waste of taxpayer money. There should be more congressional oversight on this type of waste.

American suvs such as the tahoe, though gas guzzlers, are supporting an american company without being too extravagent such as an escalade. Politicians may have staff members accompany him on trips, working out strategies or policies, so I'm okay with the tahoe, but not the escalade.

A solution is to publish a list of acceptable vehicles that can be leased with tax payer money.
 
Here is the list of who spends what on cars..

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwas...16.htm?source=rss&channel=krwashington_nation

Most Expensive Cars:
Rep. Mike Ross, D-Ark: Ford Expedition, $1,248.31
Rep. Howard P. "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif.: Acura, $1,231.51
Rep. Dennis Cardoza, D-Calif.: Chevrolet truck, $1,227.17
Rep. John Sullivan, R-Okla.: Chevrolet, $1,180.99
Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio: Lincoln, $1,078.21
Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif.: Toyota Highlander, $1,073.73
Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.: Lexus, $1,062.85
Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.: Cadillac DeVille, $998.48
Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C.: Ford Escape, $922.55
Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo.: Chevrolet Tahoe, $903.80
Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., Lincoln Town Car, $901.22
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Cheapest Cars:
Rep. John Carter, R-Texas: $210.65
Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C.: Honda Accord, $214.79
Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y.: Chevrolet Impala, $219
Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.: Nissan Altima, $256.74
Rep. Danny Davis, D-Ill.: Mercury, $266.55
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Drive American? Several lawmakers chose to lease foreign cars at taxpayers' expense. Among them:
Rep. Howard P. "Buck" McKeon, R-Calif.: Acura, $1,231.51
Rep. John Doolittle, R-Calif.: Toyota Highlander, $1,073.73
Rep. Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y.: Lexus: $1,062.85
Rep. Tom Feeney, R-Fla.: Nissan Pathfinder: $843.16
Rep. Alcee Hastings, D-Fla.: Infiniti M45: $799.77
Rep. John Linder, R-Ga.: Lexus, $508.41
Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.: BMW 530i, $499.93
Rep. Anna Eshoo, D-Calif.: Acura, $429.25
Rep. Maurice Hinchey, D-N.Y.: Nissan Altima, $256.74
Rep. Sue Myrick, R-N.C.: Honda Accord: $214.79
 
Shit, that Toyota John Dolittle drives probably had more American hands building it than the Impala driven by Weiner.

I'm just curious what one must do to spend $900 to $1200 on a *lease*. Are these calculations considering the amount of gasoline used, or do these people get cars with marble dashboards, gold-plated gas caps and blowjobs?
 
For the PA residents, AKA myself and PAD:

-Curt Weldon, $8,551.12, R-Pa., 1, Ford Expedition
$712/month

-Don Sherwood, $6,332.16, R-Pa., Chevy Impala
$527/month

-Bill Shuster, $7,489.68, R-Pa., Chrysler Town and Country
$624/month

John Peterson, $10,393.94, R-Pa., 1, GMC Yukon
$866/month

-Paul Kanjorski, $11,289.88, D-Pa., 1, GMC Yukon
$940/month

Michael Fitzpatrick, $4,349.61, R-Pa., Ford 500
$366/month

Chaka Fattah, $8,513.50, D-Pa., 1, GMC Envoy
$709/month
 
[quote name='mykevermin']Shit, that Toyota John Dolittle drives probably had more American hands building it than the Impala driven by Weiner.

I'm just curious what one must do to spend $900 to $1200 on a *lease*. Are these calculations considering the amount of gasoline used, or do these people get cars with marble dashboards, gold-plated gas caps and blowjobs?[/QUOTE]

from the article you didn't read said:
What you pay for when a member of Congress leases a car:

1. The monthly cost of the lease

2. Insurance

3. Excess mileage charges

4. Incidental operating expenses (gas, oil, general maintenance, etc.)

5. Registration fees

6. Property tax during the term of the lease

Apparently, we are not paying for blowjobs. Yet.
 
The buy American vs. foreign argument is getting trickier.

I know that Mercedes, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai (I may be missing some.) all have U.S. factories. However I don't really know what models are being made here from which lines.

If a Congresscritter is driving a BMW or Mercedes that's made in his/her district by his/her constituants I have zero problem with that. The same is true of an Escalade or any other high end vehicle. If it's made by the people you represent it's not a bad thing. Especially since a ton of lobbying was probably done at one point or another by that Representative to land the factory in the first place or keeping it there/open and modernized.

Acura, Infiniti and Lexus do not build cars here and the 5 series BMW is German built. BMW only builds the M, Z and X cars in South Carolina. The Honda Accord is built in Ohio or at least most of them are. It's hard to call that a "foreign" car.
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']The buy American vs. foreign argument is getting trickier.

I know that Mercedes, BMW, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Hyundai (I may be missing some.) all have U.S. factories. However I don't really know what models are being made here from which lines.

If a Congresscritter is driving a BMW or Mercedes that's made in his/her district by his/her constituants I have zero problem with that. The same is true of an Escalade or any other high end vehicle. If it's made by the people you represent it's not a bad thing. Especially since a ton of lobbying was probably done at one point or another by that Representative to land the factory in the first place or keeping it there/open and modernized.

Acura, Infiniti and Lexus do not build cars here and the 5 series BMW is German built. BMW only builds the M, Z and X cars in South Carolina. The Honda Accord is built in Ohio or at least most of them are. It's hard to call that a "foreign" car.[/QUOTE]

Even though the car isn't built by american hands doesn't change the fact that the foreign companies are getting heavy tax breaks and are getting around import fees. I saw a news program on this once and it was a while ago so I can't remember any specifics but I do remember that even if a foreign owned company produces their product here its still better for the American economy to buy an American product because the money stays in the US.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']People wonder why the public hates politicians? Its this type of hypocrisy that leads to it. Now the question is, do these politicians also get a car/limo service in addition to their free rentals?[/QUOTE]

Well, they do get drivers and personal assistants on their office payrolls. The former governor of Virginia and presidential hopeful (Mark Warner) used to be the driver for Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT), no joke.
 
[quote name='elprincipe']Well, they do get drivers and personal assistants on their office payrolls. The former governor of Virginia and presidential hopeful (Mark Warner) used to be the driver for Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-CT), no joke.[/QUOTE]


That's what I figured. What a bunch of bullshit.
 
[quote name='E-Z-B']A luxury lexus IS a total waste of taxpayer money. There should be more congressional oversight on this type of waste.[/QUOTE]

Someone please tell me this was sarcasm.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Someone please tell me this was sarcasm.[/QUOTE]

No, that's liberalism for you.

Congress should oversee congress on what congress spends on members of congress.
 
[quote name='RedvsBlue']What a bunch of bullshit.[/QUOTE]

+1. But that's nothing compared to pork barrel spending. Hell, their constant salary increases are more significant.
 
Let's not forget their office budget allowance, offical office expense allowance, postage allowance, travel allowance, milage allowance, mobile office space allowance, furniture allowance, and their retirement package and lifetime healthcare insurance and life insurance packages.

It's like winning the lotto and you get to be important too.
 
[quote name='bmulligan']Let's not forget their office budget allowance, offical office expense allowance, postage allowance, travel allowance, milage allowance, mobile office space allowance, furniture allowance, and their retirement package and lifetime healthcare insurance and life insurance packages.

It's like winning the lotto and you get to be important too.[/QUOTE]

They don't have a "postal allowance" per se; instead they have the franking privilege. For those who don't know what this is, it allows members of Congress to be exempt from postage by putting their name on the envelope. Basically free campaign mail to all their constituents on the taxpayers' dole. Given that they each have hundreds of thousands of constituents, this can be a significant sum.

And the retirement benefits for even a one-term congressman are just obscene. Read here for more:

http://www.fa-ir.org/alabama/corrupt/Congressional Retirement Benefits.htm
 
[quote name='PittsburghAfterDark']No, that's liberalism for you.

Congress should oversee congress on what congress spends on members of congress.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I guess that's too much to ask when they can't even stop lobbying corruption.
 
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