How to Trade Successfully

jclast

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I know that most (if not all) of us have traded/bought other places before, but we need to put a good image forward, and if we want the trade section to work smoothly, us newbs (both to CAG and to trading in general) need a good place to start.

Hopefully, these tips are good ones (and others will be added). If this gets good enough, I think it (or something official) should be made into a sticky.

1) I know that the deal you're looking at is phenomenal and you want to jump on it right now, but head on over to the feedback thread and check out your trading partner's feedback. A safe trade is a good trade.

2) If money is involved, figure out what the acceptable forms of payment are. "PayPal accepted" doesn't neccessarily mean "Credit Card via PayPal okay."

3) Ask for a detailed description of the item if you're not sure what it looks like by this point. If your counterpart is serious about trading, odds are they'll describe it to you.

4) Trades are (in my opinion) a private thing. Communicate via PM. This way the whole world doesn't have to watch you haggle, and you have a record of what went down in case it turns south. It'll also come in handy when you're filling out feedback.

5) Speaking of feedback, leave some. What? LEAVE FEEDBACK! For good, neutral, and horrible experiences. You look for good feedback in a trader, so leave good feedback for your counterpart when the trade goes well. And leave neutral or negative feedback when it is warranted. If you're not sure, PM a mod or experienced trader. I'm sure they'll help.

6) Use delivery confirmation. You now have proof that the item arrived (or didn't as the case may be). Cover your ass. You're dealing with people on the Internet. CD may not be perfect, but it's better than nothing, and at least you know if/when your counterpart shipped his/her item.

7) Be honest! If you're posting the initial trade thread, describe the item(s) in detail. Post pictures if you can. Treat it like an eBay auction. You'll get more offers than questions if you have a kick-ass, honest description. Mint means perfect, like it just came from the mint. Use this word if it's appropriate, otherwise say something like "great condition, box scuffed in lower right corner."

8) Don't be a dick. Respond to your PMs. Don't assume everybody is a scammer, and treat your counterpart like a real person. We're not bots, and I know I'm more prone to deal with a person again (even if the transaction didn't go as planned) if they were pleasant to work with.

9) Talk to each other. If you're nervous, talk to your counterpart. Maybe you (or s/he) has a bunch of feedback someplace else (eBay, GameTZ, etc.). Read through their CAG feedback and PM others they have traded with. PM a mod. Hopefully, this is sinking in. Communication is good. Mods are your friends (as long as you don't prove to them that they shouldn't be). Traders are usually friendly. After all, they're getting something out of this, too. What's most important here is for both parties to be comfortable with the trade.

10) Start small. You'll worry a lot less about a $15 game than a $100 system.
(thanks, DuelLadyS)
 
One change/edit I would make (and I don't think this is necessarily what you meant, but that's how it comes out) is that for item #5 you say leave neutral or negative feedback if the trade was less than phenomenal. I'd disagree with that. A trade can still be positive without being perfect.

Overall, good pointers though. Especially about suggesting people actually leave feedback! :)
 
My advice to wary newer traders: Start small. You won't worry as much about a $15 dollar game deal than a $100 system deal. Not to mention the bigger numbers are where the scammers really start to pop out. Get a bit of experience for how a trade should go before you put the big stuff on the line.
 
A more formalized guide is in the works between myself and others, and I'm sure your tips could easily be incorporated into that guide.

We did have a thread about that, and it was sticky, though mave have disappeared in the migration to vBulletin.
 
my advice to newbs..trade with people with good feedback...aka shrike or nachezer or someone of equal prestige...life is so much easier
 
Regarding #6 in your list above, note that delivery confirmation does not necessarily prove that the item was delivered to your address. Over the course of the approximately 1000 DVD and video game trades I have done on various trading sites, once or twice the item was delivered to my neighbor or the neighbor of the guy I was trading with and the tracking still shows the item as being delivered.

That said, the real reason I use/require DC is that it shows that the trader has actually shipped the item and when.
 
[quote name='blackjaw']my advice to newbs..trade with people with good feedback...aka shrike or nachezer or someone of equal prestige...life is so much easier[/QUOTE]

Eh, skip nach and shrike altogether and go with the best....

(ME!)

:lol: Take that, nach and shrike! :razz:

Oh, and speaking of trades, shrike, Taiko came today! w00t! (Too bad I can't play it until I go home from college...)
 
[quote name='Rig']Eh, skip nach and shrike altogether and go with the best....

(ME!)

:lol: Take that, nach and shrike! :razz:

Oh, and speaking of trades, shrike, Taiko came today! w00t! (Too bad I can't play it until I go home from college...)[/QUOTE]

ive had a few trades with yah rig...id say they were subpar at best



LOL hahahahahahah...i kid ;)
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']I'd disagree with that, we haven't had many cases and outside of the whole lostworld deal nothing has really been much over $20.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that. Even if there were a bunch of scammer threads, negativity probably isn't the best way to start a Trading 101 thread.

Edited...and hopefully better.
 
[quote name='blackjaw']ive had a few trades with yah rig...id say they were subpar at best



LOL hahahahahahah...i kid ;)[/QUOTE]

Well, I pretty much walked right into that one... :)
 
[quote name='Ziv_Zulander']If you're nervous about sending first to someone on here, just show them feedback you might have at another site like GameTZ.[/QUOTE]

That's always an option, but many of us don't take other sites feedback into account. I was scammed by somebody that had flawless ebay feedback, and a few positives over here. CAG feedback is the most important feedback when trading here...
 
[quote name='Rig']That's always an option, but many of us don't take other sites feedback into account. I was scammed by somebody that had flawless ebay feedback, and a few positives over here. CAG feedback is the most important feedback when trading here...[/QUOTE]

Exactly, we aren't trading on ebay, if someone scams you can't leave them ebay feedback.

In fact scammer wise we would be much better of if feedback from other sites is ignored both cloudspekk and lostworld used healthy ebay accounts to their advantage.
 
You don't need to bump this anymore.
We are working on an all inclusive guide and Im sure we will incorporate some of your stuff.

Thanks.
 
[quote name='jclast']Cool. Thanks for letting me know.

Not that I was doing a great job remembering to bump it anyways...[/QUOTE]

Hopefully something this weekend or week coming up. Do me a favor and drop me a PM with the link to this thread.
 
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