I received an odd question from potential ebay bidder

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I received a question from a potential buyer on ebay today asking me to make an exception on my shipping policy to ship the item to Canada where i only specifically mention United States. He has a feedback of 100% from 354 ratings, offered to "walk me through the steps on shipping to Canada". Does this seem odd to anyone? Has anyone else here received similar requests from potential buyers? Also this is the first auction i have put on ebay in a very long time, and am wary of scams and such. Honestly i dont know what kind of scam this could possibly be if any. Should I consider his request, i dont know how much of a hassle it is to ship to Canada if any? THanks for the help.
 
[quote name='michaema']I received a question from a potential buyer on ebay today asking me to make an exception on my shipping policy to ship the item to Canada where i only specifically mention United States. He has a feedback of 100% from 354 ratings, offered to "walk me through the steps on shipping to Canada". Does this seem odd to anyone? Has anyone else here received similar requests from potential buyers? Also this is the first auction i have put on ebay in a very long time, and am wary of scams and such. Honestly i dont know what kind of scam this could possibly be if any. Should I consider his request, i dont know how much of a hassle it is to ship to Canada if any? THanks for the help.[/QUOTE]

Happens to me all the time.

I don't ship beyond the US so I just tell them no, because to me, it's a pain in the ass.

Someone else will buy the item anyways.

It's no scam though.
 
Well What exactly are you selling?

I once sold a saddle and some tack to canada and it was a frickin pain cause it was worth alot of money and had to go in an odd box. but if you are just selling a game or something that would be pretty easy cause it is cheaper to ship and wouldn't have such high import tax.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Happens to me all the time.

I don't ship beyond the US so I just tell them no, because to me, it's a pain in the ass.

Someone else will buy the item anyways.[/quote]

I figured as much, there is the whole customs, declarations and fees. I like to keep things simple.
 
It is not an unusual request, I get them regularly.

I don't do International anymore. To me it isn't worth the extra time and hassle. For example, in Dec. there was an error in my listing saying it shipped anywhere in the world. Someone from Portugal bought it so I decided to honor it. Long story short, due to customs he just go the item a week or two ago and he had to pay 10 euros to get it. Shipping to Canada may be more lax.
 
It's kinda of a pain if you want tracking with USPS. The only way to get it is by certified mail and then, it's 50/50 chance it'll show as delivered(at least the ones I've done).

Honestly, stick by your policy and tell the guy no. It'll save you a few headaches and worrying that the ass ripped you off.
 
[quote name='darthbudge']Well What exactly are you selling?

I once sold a saddle and some tack to canada and it was a frickin pain cause it was worth alot of money and had to go in an odd box. but if you are just selling a game or something that would be pretty easy cause it is cheaper to ship and wouldn't have such high import tax.[/quote]

Im selling God of War II, im not sure about the taxes its a new title. Honestly i think roufuss is right and it would be a pain in the ass to mess with shipping outside the US
 
If it's below a certain value, then there is no customs fee. The buyer should pay for that anyway. And below a certain weight at the post office, there is a *very* simple green form you fill out where you write down what the item is, how much it weighs, and the value. Above that weight (or using FedEx, for example), there is quite a bit more paperwork. The decision you have to make is whether or not it is worth the extra hassle to have an additional potential bidder run up the price. (And if it's not a BIN, he may not win anyway, but will help get you a better price.)
 
Happens to me all the time espically when it comes from european buyers or uk since euro or pound is worth about 1.5 more then the american dollar and the cost of games is much lower in u.s. compare to europe

You can deny it or accept it.Their is very little tracking when it comes to global mail due intergrating with other mail system.Each country has their own rule and regulation.This can be a bad thing if they file a non receiving item by paypal.You will automaticly lose without tracking or delivery confirmation number

Everytime,I sent items by global mail.I always ask buyer to agree to my terms.
"Buyer must agree to pay the seller shipping cost and have to pay custom tax when you receive your package.Seller is not responsible for delay of package or lost packages due to customs.People who live outside us,this is ntsc game and might not be compatible with your local region system.So keep this in mind."

Most of time the buyer agree and I never been screwed yet.Even though my item description says "i will only send packages to united states"
 
This also happens to me all the time. Just a few days ago someone asked me to ship to Alaska because I said "continental US only." I wouldn't have minded except his (unconfirmed) address was in SC so I sent it there after telling him that's what I was going to do (he already bid, won and paid before asking me to ship to Alaska). It was his first eBay transaction with 0 feedback but we communicated several times and I got paid very quickly so I'm not too worried about it. I wouldn't ship out of the country though just because of the added cost and it's kind of a pain. Bidders should read the auctions before bidding. I swear most people are retarded.
 
It's funny how none of you like to ship to Canada. I live in Canada and I don't ship within Canada if I can avoid it. I only ship to the states. Customs form takes all of 10 seconds to fill out. It's really not too complicated mailing stuff cross border. I sell on ebay and trade games on goozex and gametraderworld and I much prefer sending my stuff to the states. Especially if any of you are goozex users opt to ship to Canada you can mail a game in a bubble mailer for $1.95 it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg or anything thats for sure. And I have never had to pay any import tax on games coming the states.
 
[quote name='magiic']It's funny how none of you like to ship to Canada. I live in Canada and I don't ship within Canada if I can avoid it. I only ship to the states. Customs form takes all of 10 seconds to fill out. It's really not too complicated mailing stuff cross border.[/QUOTE]

Yea, it takes 10 seconds to fill out the customs forms, but then I have to wait in line at the post office, and deal with the postal employees, and that's another 10 - 15 minutes I can avoid if I just ship within the US and print my shipping label through Paypal.

Let's see... drop it in a box vs waiting in line at the post office? Easy choice to make.

International buyers are a headache, and someone else will buy the item anyways who isn't a headache.
 
[quote name='magiic']It's funny how none of you like to ship to Canada. I live in Canada and I don't ship within Canada if I can avoid it. I only ship to the states. Customs form takes all of 10 seconds to fill out. It's really not too complicated mailing stuff cross border. I sell on ebay and trade games on goozex and gametraderworld and I much prefer sending my stuff to the states. Especially if any of you are goozex users opt to ship to Canada you can mail a game in a bubble mailer for $1.95 it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg or anything thats for sure. And I have never had to pay any import tax on games coming the states.[/quote]

As much as I would love to ship to Canada, I agree with Roufuss. I don't go to the post office anymore since I can do my shipping online. I can't ship to Canada without waiting in line for 20-30 mins. On top of that, I can't track my packages into Canada, so I have no way of winning any kind of ebay/paypal dispute. If there was a way to solve BOTH of those issues, then I'd ship to Canada, no problem.
 
It's a pretty normal request. Shipping to Canada is pretty painless and reletively inexpensive. If you are selling the item as an auction, you should really let the guy bid on it. If you're lucky he'll drive up the price and still lose the auction.
 
I guess I'm not used to the waiting in line aspect. I just print my shipping labels with paypal and drop them in a mailbox at lunch when Im at school.
 
It's not the form that turns me off.
It is the fact that there is no tracking, (at a reasonable price) so it is easier to get screwed.
Both of my disputes have been from Canada.

No tracking, I was SOL. Not even with the customs form.
 
I, for one, find it offensive when people refuse to ship to Canada. We're fucking neighbors. Treat us like that.
 
I've never thought twice about shipping to Canada, so far hasn't come back to bite me in the ass. But as for the rest of the world, I think out of some 400 ebay transactions i've only done it once or twice, I don't even remember why I allowed those few times.
 
[quote name='naes']I, for one, find it offensive when people refuse to ship to Canada. We're fucking neighbors. Treat us like that.[/quote]

I think one of the biggest problems is so many people just assume it costs an obscene ammount of money to send anything up here, when really it doesnt.
 
[quote name='magiic']I think one of the biggest problems is so many people just assume it costs an obscene ammount of money to send anything up here, when really it doesnt.[/QUOTE]


Too true, way back when I first did it I assumed it would be a lot more to ship, charged the guy an extra 6 bucks, go to the post office and gee cost all of 1 dollar more.
 
[quote name='naes']I, for one, find it offensive when people refuse to ship to Canada. We're fucking neighbors. Treat us like that.[/quote]

I have no problems shipping to Canada as long as the shipping expenses are covered by the Buyer. Now if it was a trade, then I might be hesitant about it -- would definitely discuss options to see what we could work out, though.
 
Speaking of trading, you never answered me about Super Princess Peach. You told me that it was misplaced and you'll find it but never answered me after that.

Did you find it?
[quote name='Setzer']I have no problems shipping to Canada as long as the shipping expenses are covered by the Buyer. Now if it was a trade, then I might be hesitant about it -- would definitely discuss options to see what we could work out, though.[/quote]
 
I won't ship to canada because lack of tracking. Anyone can rip you off and say they never got item and theres nothing you can do.
 
Nothing wrong shipping to canada,but when it comes to ebay there are alot of bad people out there.Without delivery confirmation,you will lose all paypal or ebay dispute.Deilvery confirmation is pretty expensive when shipping global,the option they have comes in global express,that's pretty expensive.

I have to agree with roufuss.I hate waiting in line for 20-30 in line for shipping global item compared to domestic item where i can print labels and drop it in a box that take less then 30 seconds to do
 
[quote name='naes']I, for one, find it offensive when people refuse to ship to Canada. We're fucking neighbors. Treat us like that.[/quote]

Why would I want to ship outside of America to America, Jr.?
 
[quote name='csidegamer']It's not the form that turns me off.
It is the fact that there is no tracking, (at a reasonable price) so it is easier to get screwed.
Both of my disputes have been from Canada.

No tracking, I was SOL. Not even with the customs form.[/QUOTE]

This is the only downside of course. I had a dispute from Spain that I was SOL on because of no tracking. But I have always shipped overseas (and to Canada) and I figure I've made so much MORE doing so than I would have otherwise that it is worth it. I disagree with Roufuss that someone else will buy it. I have often had 2 or 3 international bidders in a biding war with each other. Had I excluded them either the items wouldn't have sold or would have gone for much less. And many of my BIN games are picked up by Canadian buyers. On this last 20 cent regular auction listing day (not BIN) I sold about 25 things and 10 of those were to Canadians. Since most of those were just 1-bid winners (since with the 20 cent listing I started them where I'd want to sell them at) I figure nearly all 10 of those wouldn't have sold if I didn't allow international bidders. I cleared some junk off my trade list that no one here seemed to want. Canadians are more willing to shell out $12 for things like Metroid Prime 2 ;).

After the lost dispute I simply jacked up my international shipping prices to build up a "fraud fund". So now I charge $6 (instead of $5) for Canada (costs $2 to $2.50 with bubble mailer) and $9 or $10 to Europe (usually costs $6-$7). My post office is not too bad - I feel better going there to drop stuff off anyway, as the nearest postal drop box is out that direction as it is. If I get 1 fraudulent claim per 20-30 international mailings I've got that covered with my own little insurance scheme ;).

What's worse is that I continually get US buyers who pay me with unconfirmed addresses despite my clear and concise instructions NOT to do that. They just don't notice or care. Most of the time it isn't worth the hassle to deal with them so I just send anyway (I just make sure they are verified and their shipping address matches their ebay account address).
 
[quote name='io'] I disagree with Roufuss that someone else will buy it. [/QUOTE]

Out of 100's of video games sold, international buyers always ask me on the expensive / rare stuff, and I've always had it sell without resorting to an international buyer.

These days, my time is money, and the line at my post office is easily 20 minutes any time, any day of the week.

Like Warner said, if there is a way to A) track packages and B) do it without waiting in line, yea I'd sell to Canada.

Right now it's a huge pain in the ass that, imo, just isn't worth it.

I don't have a problem with unconfirmed buyers since my account is set up to not allow it. Confirmed addresses + immediate payment means I never have to worry about a dispute or a NPB again.

I used to have a simlar problem with shipping to an APO address, but at least now those can have DC on them (you used to not be able to put DC on an APO, IIRC) and those come maybe 1 out of every 200 buyers, so I deal with that, because at least it has tracking.
 
Isn't provincial tax on all purchases like 17% in Canada? Even on food? I have a relative in Canada that told me a pack of chicken that costs $6 in the states is like $18 Cdn + tax in Canada, which is still like $16 USD? No wonder they want to buy games on the internet from the US.

Her kids were freaking that a candy bar goes for $.50 instead of $1.20
 
I used to ship outside of the country to everywhere, whenever I sold old PC games, people from Germany would always buy 'em...weird.

I kept under-guessing on shipping and it kept cutting into my profits. The biggest deal is filling out a customs form, but you can pick up a bunch at the post office and save 'em for later. So if you have a way of accuratley weighing things, shipping out of the country can be a very good way to boost profits.

And i've never had anyone try to scam me and say they didn't get anything.
 
[quote name='Roufuss']Out of 100's of video games sold, international buyers always ask me on the expensive / rare stuff, and I've always had it sell without resorting to an international buyer.
[/quote]

Well, for example I sold a FF XII CE as I had preordered 2 in case it turned out to be limited (we all know how THAT turned out ;)). I had 2 buyers from Germany bidding against each other and it went up to $90. I knew I could go buy as many as I wanted at GS, so I gave the loser a second chance offer which he jumped on. I sent him my copy and the next day went and picked up another for myself. No way no how was a U.S. buyer going to bid over $55 for that thing.

Note that on anything over $40 or so I insist on airmail parcel post or global express mail. Parcel post includes insurance at least, so if your buyer claims it didn't arrive and is telling the truth you should be able to file for insurance. It costs about $14-$18 to mail something like that but I've had plenty of people pay for it. Global Express Mail costs a bit more than that but includes insurance AND tracking. I used that when I sold my old Teal DS to someone in France. The nice thing about that is it has a money back guarantee if it isn't delivered on time (to some countries). I sent something to Australia recently and it arrived a week late. It has taken a while, but the USPS finally sent me a form to get my $20 shipping cost back! Very nice!

[quote name='roufuss']
I don't have a problem with unconfirmed buyers since my account is set up to not allow it. Confirmed addresses + immediate payment means I never have to worry about a dispute or a NPB again.
[/QUOTE]

Wait, how do you do this? If I could exclude unconfirmed U.S. buyers I would definitely do that. Does it have to be immediate payment though? I still allow checks and MO's too, so that won't work if so.

Though I am tempted to go the immediate payment route - I've got about 7 or 8 non-payers (out of 25 auctions) for the 20 cent listing ones. Of course those were all regular auctions and some just ended yesterday, but I expect never to hear from at least half of them.
 
[quote name='io']
Wait, how do you do this? If I could exclude unconfirmed U.S. buyers I would definitely do that. Does it have to be immediate payment though? I still allow checks and MO's too, so that won't work if so.

Though I am tempted to go the immediate payment route - I've got about 7 or 8 non-payers (out of 25 auctions) for the 20 cent listing ones. Of course those were all regular auctions and some just ended yesterday, but I expect never to hear from at least half of them.[/QUOTE]

It's in your Ebay options somewhere, or maybe Paypal... I did mine years ago, but do some digging, it's definitely an option to not allow unconfirmed payments. I just started doing immediate payment recently so I know it dosen't have to do with that.
 
I ship a lot of packages to Canada and there's only 1 real problem with them in my book, it takes forever for some items to get through customs. I've never had anything lost, but it can take weeks sometimes to cross. Other than that, I have no problems with Canada...Now, our neighbors to the south, that's a completely different story.
 
God damn. I now realize why most people fucking hate America. It's Canada. Not a third world country. You aren't going to get a disease by shipping to them.
 
I agree with io on selling certain items to international buyer. One of my friend made some nice profit selling the zelda limited edition to international buyer with high BIN.
 
How does "print shipping label" from paypal works? Lets say im shipping a ps2 game. On ebay i charge them $5 and ship it as first class. For first class its probably like what.... 3bucks? How does paypal knows how much it weighs and how much it costs to ship it? does it even include delivery confirmation?
 
[quote name='wageslave']Isn't provincial tax on all purchases like 17% in Canada? Even on food? I have a relative in Canada that told me a pack of chicken that costs $6 in the states is like $18 Cdn + tax in Canada, which is still like $16 USD? No wonder they want to buy games on the internet from the US.

Her kids were freaking that a candy bar goes for $.50 instead of $1.20[/quote]

It's not quite that bad. Unless you live in the maritimes. I think HST is 17%. In BC (where I live) provincial sales tax is 6% + 7% federal sales tax for a total of 13% tax on purchases. In Alberta however, they have no provincial sales tax as such they only pay 7% federal on purchases for a total of 7% sales tax whihc is the lowest in Canada I believe.
 
[quote name='naes']God damn. I now realize why most people fucking hate America. It's Canada. Not a third world country. You aren't going to get a disease by shipping to them.[/QUOTE]

Hey, its not like we're all shipping to stuff to Mexico while telling Canada to suck it. We're saying its a hassle in the US to ship internationally, period.... and international transactions have far more Paypal pitfalls than US based transactions.

I ship to Canada occationally when asked by buyers with good feedback and the item is relatively low dollar/low risk...but it is a pain to have to wait in line instead of just handing off my usual US only packages. On the plus side, fewer people sell to Canada and since the competition is less, you can often get a better price. Most games only cost about 30-50 cents more to ship to Canada but I charge $5 on top of US rates to ship to Canada.
 
[quote name='trunks982']How does "print shipping label" from paypal works? Lets say im shipping a ps2 game. On ebay i charge them $5 and ship it as first class. For first class its probably like what.... 3bucks? How does paypal knows how much it weighs and how much it costs to ship it? does it even include delivery confirmation?[/quote]

You enter how much it weighs and the dimensions. You specify how you want to send it and if you want DC, insurance etc and then it prints a label you attach to it then just drop the package off at the post office, you even get the small business rate that USPS charges.
 
That's a lie. It's very easy to ship to Canada.
[quote name='K_G']Hey, its not like we're all shipping to stuff to Mexico while telling Canada to suck it. We're saying its a hassle in the US to ship internationally, period.... and international transactions have far more Paypal pitfalls than US based transactions.[/quote]
 
[quote name='magiic']You enter how much it weighs and the dimensions. You specify how you want to send it and if you want DC, insurance etc and then it prints a label you attach to it then just drop the package off at the post office, you even get the small business rate that USPS charges.[/QUOTE]
if you print label with paypal you have to get DC, but it is only $.14 versus $.50 at the post office
 
[quote name='62t']if you print label with paypal you have to get DC, but it is only $.14 versus $.50 at the post office[/quote]
Must be USPS thing in Canada DC is only available on Xpress Post
 
[quote name='naes']That's a lie. It's very easy to ship to Canada.[/quote]

I'd trade with someone from Canada no sweat - selling on ebay to them unfortunately is another issue. If people were 100% honest, I'd have no problem with it. I blame Paypal too.
 
Paypal is the most fucking useless company on the face of the planet. As a seller even with DC Insurance the whole fucking shebang. Giving them all the info they want they will still refund a buyer $1025 and let him keep what he bought. fucking ridiculous.
 
[quote name='naes']I, for one, find it offensive when people refuse to ship to Canada. We're fucking neighbors. Treat us like that.[/quote]


Most people don't even treat each other in the states as neighbors half the time; let alone outside the states. Sad state of affairs.
I agree with the tracking though hard to win a dispute.
 
Has anyone actually used a DC number to win a dispute? I'm pretty sure paypal just automatically sides with the buyer.
 
[quote name='magiic']Has anyone actually used a DC number to win a dispute? I'm pretty sure paypal just automatically sides with the buyer.[/quote]

Yes, every dispute i've had I've won - up to $300 worth of stuff. Can take a while though (took about 3 weeks for the $300 stuff)
 
[quote name='magiic']Has anyone actually used a DC number to win a dispute? I'm pretty sure paypal just automatically sides with the buyer.[/quote]

DC will pretty much win any dispute in the sellers favor. Shipped a month late, shipped you a damaged item, or the wrong item all together and the seller will still win the dispute with a DC in my experience.
 
[quote name='sp00ge']Customs form only applies to packages over 1lb. If you're selling a game/dvd, you don't even need a form.[/QUOTE]

Uh, that's not true - I have to fill out customs forms for anything outside of the U.S., including APO and AFO addresses. I almost never mail anything over 1 lb. There are different forms though - the little green ones and the larger white ones (which are used for parcel post or heavier things). Unless my PO is just being unnecessary about it ;).
 
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