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So, a while ago a CAG named chasaer wanted to buy a new copy of Zelda: Minish Cap from me. I asked to trade it for a used copy of FEAR (360) and I was going to even add a few bucks to even the deal. Well, he didn't want to give up FEAR at all (even though it it on his trade list) so we agreed on $30 shipped. Well, he then writes to me saying he wants to wait.

From chasaer:
"And what I mainly wanted to ask you is if you would be willing to wait a while for the money. The thing is, I'm saving up money as we speak, to take my Mom out to a restaurant for a dinner for her birthday. I know it sounds really random, but I have no idea how much it's gonna cost me, and I won't until then, which is February 16th. And that would mean I won't have the money until after then. As much as I want the game for that fair price, my Mom has to come first, and I can't go about spending money now, and just hoping I'll have enough, when I could be reassured. In other words, I'm asking of you if you are willing to wait around ~2 weeks or so for the cash. I can guarantee you to money, so long as you are patient, and the nicks and creases on the box aren't that bad."

So, to be a nice CAG, I wait. Then he sends me another message.

"Hey man, I was digging through all my messages and stumbled upon yours. I remember we had this deal going on with Minish Cap, and you're waiting for the $30 for it. So the deal was $30 + shipping for me to send it to you, and you will cover your own shipping right? Well is it too much to ask of you if you could wait 2 more weeks for the money, my friend?"

He also asked for pics and I sent him pics of the game. Since he still has no money and has FEAR still on his trade list, I offer to trade for FEAR again since he says he still wants Zelda.

He says:
"o ya, and yo remember how I feel about trading away that game. In other words, could you keep on waiting for me? And just inform me if another offer comes up for Minish Cap?"

So, now it has been 26 days since we first talked about the trade. I decided to put the game back on my trade list as it doesn't appear he is actually going to buy the game and I assume by "inform me if another offer comes along" meant that if someone else offered to buy the game. So, another CAG offered me money and I sold the game. Instead of just leaving him hanging, I actually wrote to him, apologized, and told him another CAG bought the game and wished him best of luck.

He writes back:
"All I'm going to say is dude, wtf? Sorry to sound like an a-hole, but a deal is a deal, and it was just a matter of time before I got the money. These are not business-like ethics. When you make a deal, you stick to the deal, like a man. And even then, I may acknowledge the fact that if you've waited enough, and another came up, you can consider it. But for the fact that you didn't notify me of this guy giving an offer earlier is just a stab in the back to me. Honestly, if you told me, "Hey man, I'm getting an offer for Minish Cap here, you think you can get the money sooner?" Or something would have been perfectly acceptable to me, and I would somehow try to pull some funds out of my ass to get the game. So seriously, why did you do this to me? And just out of curiosity, did you even ship the game? How much is this guy offering? Honestly, if it that was me, I would at least stick to my word. Thank you for your patience at least thusfar, but this isn't the first time this happened to me, except the last guy didn't have the balls to at least respond, and just ignored it like it was nothing. What a jackass... Anyway, step up, and just tell me whats up with this whole thing?"

I haven't done much trading on CAG but what I have traded or sold has been a good experience. I would also like to add that what I have sold in the past for cash (some stuff prior to the new trading rating system) was sold well below what I could have ebay'd it for. But I would rather sell it to a CAG then anyone else. I like the community here and I think we should go that extra mile to help each other out. But this kind of behavior makes me not want to trade with CAGs. There are a lot of great people here at CAG (Javeryh, RelentlessRolento, Kayden, Shrike, Apossum, etc.) that make this a great forum. But it's people like that who act like pricks that ruin this place. I'm certainly not going to bring myself to his level by replying, instead I'll show you how some CAGs act behind close doors, as if PMs can conceal the fact that he is a douche bag. I think I was more than patient with him and I think most CAGs will agree. However, I think for now on I'll just trade my games in and take a loss, less hassle.
 
[quote name='valor19'] However, I think for now on I'll just trade my games in and take a loss, less hassle.[/QUOTE]

You could always sell them on EBay instead. Although once in a while you have to deal with a difficult buyer there too.
 
[quote name='YoshiFan1']You could always sell them on EBay instead. Although once in a while you have to deal with a difficult buyer there too.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I just sold a game on there via "buy it now" and then the guy didn't want to send a money order even though it stated in the auction, "only accept money orders." He then got my number from ebay (i have since removed it) and called me about 10 times leaving voicemails about how money orders aren't secure and I could be scamming him! WTF.
 
[quote name='valor19']So, a while ago a CAG named chasaer wanted to buy a new copy of Zelda: Minish Cap from me. I asked to trade it for a used copy of FEAR (360) and I was going to even add a few bucks to even the deal. Well, he didn't want to give up FEAR at all (even though it it on his trade list) so we agreed on $30 shipped. Well, he then writes to me saying he wants to wait.

From chasaer:
"And what I mainly wanted to ask you is if you would be willing to wait a while for the money. The thing is, I'm saving up money as we speak, to take my Mom out to a restaurant for a dinner for her birthday. I know it sounds really random, but I have no idea how much it's gonna cost me, and I won't until then, which is February 16th. And that would mean I won't have the money until after then. As much as I want the game for that fair price, my Mom has to come first, and I can't go about spending money now, and just hoping I'll have enough, when I could be reassured. In other words, I'm asking of you if you are willing to wait around ~2 weeks or so for the cash. I can guarantee you to money, so long as you are patient, and the nicks and creases on the box aren't that bad."

So, to be a nice CAG, I wait. Then he sends me another message.

"Hey man, I was digging through all my messages and stumbled upon yours. I remember we had this deal going on with Minish Cap, and you're waiting for the $30 for it. So the deal was $30 + shipping for me to send it to you, and you will cover your own shipping right? Well is it too much to ask of you if you could wait 2 more weeks for the money, my friend?"

He also asked for pics and I sent him pics of the game. Since he still has no money and has FEAR still on his trade list, I offer to trade for FEAR again since he says he still wants Zelda.

He says:
"o ya, and yo remember how I feel about trading away that game. In other words, could you keep on waiting for me? And just inform me if another offer comes up for Minish Cap?"

So, now it has been 26 days since we first talked about the trade. I decided to put the game back on my trade list as it doesn't appear he is actually going to buy the game and I assume by "inform me if another offer comes along" meant that if someone else offered to buy the game. So, another CAG offered me money and I sold the game. Instead of just leaving him hanging, I actually wrote to him, apologized, and told him another CAG bought the game and wished him best of luck.

He writes back:
"All I'm going to say is dude, wtf? Sorry to sound like an a-hole, but a deal is a deal, and it was just a matter of time before I got the money. These are not business-like ethics. When you make a deal, you stick to the deal, like a man. And even then, I may acknowledge the fact that if you've waited enough, and another came up, you can consider it. But for the fact that you didn't notify me of this guy giving an offer earlier is just a stab in the back to me. Honestly, if you told me, "Hey man, I'm getting an offer for Minish Cap here, you think you can get the money sooner?" Or something would have been perfectly acceptable to me, and I would somehow try to pull some funds out of my ass to get the game. So seriously, why did you do this to me? And just out of curiosity, did you even ship the game? How much is this guy offering? Honestly, if it that was me, I would at least stick to my word. Thank you for your patience at least thusfar, but this isn't the first time this happened to me, except the last guy didn't have the balls to at least respond, and just ignored it like it was nothing. What a jackass... Anyway, step up, and just tell me whats up with this whole thing?"

I haven't done much trading on CAG but what I have traded or sold has been a good experience. I would also like to add that what I have sold in the past for cash (some stuff prior to the new trading rating system) was sold well below what I could have ebay'd it for. But I would rather sell it to a CAG then anyone else. I like the community here and I think we should go that extra mile to help each other out. But this kind of behavior makes me not want to trade with CAGs. There are a lot of great people here at CAG (Javeryh, RelentlessRolento, Kayden, Shrike, Apossum, etc.) that make this a great forum. But it's people like that who act like pricks that ruin this place. I'm certainly not going to bring myself to his level by replying, instead I'll show you how some CAGs act behind close doors, as if PMs can conceal the fact that he is a douche bag. I think I was more than patient with him and I think most CAGs will agree. However, I think for now on I'll just trade my games in and take a loss, less hassle.[/QUOTE]
Dude was never going to make the deal with you. He was going to string you along until you either dropped your price, or do exactly what you did so he could make you look like the asshole.
 
Yeah, there's a few people who are going to be a pain in the ass to deal with, but that's to be expected when the site's grown as much as it has in the last year or two. Thankfully, there's still quite a few people who've established reps as good traders and those are the people you're most likely to deal with in the future since they usually have the best trade lists...
 
If I were you I'd institute some kind of 'All deals completed within ten days of contact or are voided.' sorta thing. I mean, if you can't scrape together 30 beans in a month, it might be time to find a cheaper hobby.
 
[quote name='Cheese']If I were you I'd institute some kind of 'All deals completed within ten days of contact or are voided.' sorta thing. I mean, if you can't scrape together 30 beans in a month, it might be time to find a cheaper hobby.[/QUOTE]

It shouldn't even be that complicated. My system is essentially: "Hey, if you piss me off, you can go fuck yourself." Don't try and buy something you know you won't be able to afford and don't make excuses.

Guess I'm a mean CAG...
 
I like the fact that he would have been gracious enough to "allow" you sell YOUR game to someone else if he felt you "waited long enough".

I might have countered with an offer that he pay you half (like $15) to reserve the game and you'd ship when he paid you the rest just at least to force him to be the one to end the deal (or best case, you get $15 upfront) but you did nothing wrong, obviously.
 
[quote name='dopa345']
I might have countered with an offer that he pay you half (like $15) to reserve the game and you'd ship when he paid you the rest just at least to force him to be the one to end the deal (or best case, you get $15 upfront) but you did nothing wrong, obviously.[/QUOTE]

That's too much of a pain for half the price of a game you're trying to move though... and with someone like the person in question, it'll just lead to more excuses.
 
Why do you make me out to be the bad guy in any way? The only thing I asked off here was just a warning of another offer coming up, so I could try to hussle and get some funds quicker, and then get it to you sooner. But no, you just gave me a quick response, saying, "I had another offer and had to let it go. Sorry, I tried to wait. Good luck to you!".

That was basically a punch to the face in terms of this whole trade we had going on. The reason I am so offended now was because in my past experiences of CAG, I've dealt with some user who suddenly disregarded our trade, out of nowhere, when we already set up all the specifics, and I was about to trade the games away in a couple of days, like the games being traded, and how much money I would include, etc. And then all of a sudden told me, "Hey, sorry I traded those games away. Ok bye." Just like that, I pretty much became disappointed, and knew that I needed to toughen up and not be a softie to deal with BS like that.

I'm sorry that it takes me a while to get $30, for this trade, but there's many reasons behind it, just besides the fact that I can't gather $30 altogether. As a student, I have no free time to go make out money orders and then send it. That window of opportunity is very minuscule, so it would obviously interfere with the trading opportunities present, and guess what, it did with this. Another reason for the fact of not getting money on here is just with "special days" coming up, such as with my Mom's birthday, as previously mentioned, and soon to show up, my girlfriend's birthday. It's not like I can ignore these dates, and be greedy to spend that money towards Minish Cap. It's not my fault you weren't patient enough.

I really thought you had another CAG user give an offer, but you just traded it out immediately. But why, to ignore me anyway? You could of waited, but no, did you need cash that badly?

What confuses me is what some guy on this thread said that I would never trade or just try to lower the money a bit to my advantage. As you can see by my original statement in valor19's topic, I stick to the deal no matter what, and I expect the other user to hold that up. Besides, I'm not one to lower the price, and even then it wouldn't be worth it. You're assuming I'm one of those users that likes to prowl on a deal, wait on it, then ask the user to lower the price by $5, then wait another month, and lower it by a few more dollars, etc. I'm not one to do that since I'm not that patient anyway, it's not worth the hassle, and as previously mentioned, I stick to the deal. Besides, it should be the other users duty to stand up for themselves and deny to lower the price.

In that case, you may be asking yourself, "Well then, why didn't you trade F.E.A.R. away?" My response to that is because I did not feel like trading F.E.A.R. away for Minish Cap, since I felt like keeping it for now, making progress in the game. That, and which I failed to mention, is that I had other offers going towards it. (I failed to mention it, because some of the users interested in it were unsure if they wanted it, but later decided on offering for it.). You made me look like the bad guy here by saying it's on my tradelist, and yet, in this little statement, you perfectly respected my stance on the game, and yet, you turn your back on it here:

"That's fine if you don't want to trade. I'm sure I can find FEAR somewhere else and if you enjoy it then you certainly shouldn't part with it."

My "tradelist", includes my collection as well, all meshed into one, since I cannot fully decide what I would like to sell or keep, and having to update it if I change my mind anytime would getting irritating.

And hey, you remember me asking you this, ""o ya, and yo remember how I feel about trading away that game. In other words, could you keep on waiting for me? And just inform me if another offer comes up for Minish Cap?"

Well what would be the problem here just sending me something notifying me of this? It's not my control or decision to monitor your trades for Minish Cap, but I just wanted you to respect business ethics, and not be rude by suddenly disregarding this trade without any warning beforehand.

I have had trades with a couple of users in the past, who have waited patiently, well upto a month or so, and they had no problem, because of my guarantee to get them the money, and if any offers came up, they would of notified me, and I added some cash to make the trade towards my side.

Even though I only have a CAG trade rating of 7, I have 0 negative comments, so the ratio remains intact that I am a good, honest user who likes to get down to business. It just so happens Valor19 has the same exact ranking as me. So I believe we're both good users, but we couldn't come to terms.

But for future reference Valor19, was it really necessary to "tattle" on me on this deal? It was between you and me, and made it a public affair. But my main concern was you modified the truth towards your side, but I replied to clear up this ordeal.

Think whatever you want of me, and next time Valor19, try directly responding to me, instead of wimping out, and getting CAG users to defend you, because we all know you can't defend your own self.
 
Seriously, dude, get over it. I sold the game to someone else because you didn't seem like you were going to buy it. And how did I modify the truth? I actually quoted your PMs, verbatim. And you are pissed because I showed people how you were behaving? I can certainly defend myself physically (6-3, 220 lbs) and intellectually but I'm not going to let you cower behind PMs and act like a dick. You brought this upon yourself when you were acting inappropriate. Now you are just pissy because the rest of CAG knows you act like a child.
 
Of course I wanted to buy it! Why would I start the whole deal if I didn't? Just enlighten me as to how I'm acting childish, when you're the one who backed out on the trade since you weren't patient enough. A lack of patience like that is a childish quality, and you seem to have it. I don't know why you did that, but whatever. I'm glad this is over with. Good luck to you in the future.
 
4 weeks is just way too long. Everyone has obligations, but if you make a deal and cannot follow through you shouldn't be mad if he sells what he is trying to get rid of to someone else. The fact that he even held the game for 2 weeks in good faith is something that most would not do.

Patience may be a virtue, but gimme a break. 4 weeks and nothing happens means that no deal is going to end up materializing.
 
[quote name='chasaer']Of course I wanted to buy it! Why would I start the whole deal if I didn't?[/quote]
Why would you start the deal if you didn't have cash in hand to buy it immediately?
 
[quote name='chasaer']Of course I wanted to buy it! Why would I start the whole deal if I didn't? Just enlighten me as to how I'm acting childish, when you're the one who backed out on the trade since you weren't patient enough. A lack of patience like that is a childish quality, and you seem to have it. I don't know why you did that, but whatever. I'm glad this is over with. Good luck to you in the future.[/QUOTE]


:bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

I swear I'm going to turn into the Crazy Cat Lady reading some of these posts.


Are you serious? The guy has one copy of the game he'd like to sell. Why the hell should he have to wait for you to come up with the flow to sell it to you? If you want to buy it have the cash ready.
 
I'm fine with him trading, but what I'm guessing is that all of you have skimmed through my messages, and the only thing I would of appreciated is if the guy just said, "If you don't hurry it up, I'm going to sell it, because I have an offer coming through."

That's all I wanted, and he couldn't even do that for me....

And who are you quoting me out of context, Sleepkyng? What's your problem anyway??
 
I can wrap this whole thread up by saying both sides are immature. Who gets all worked because and calls someone a jackass if a trade falls through? And then, who actually makes a whole thread about it and names names? I don't like it either way.
 
[quote name='chasaer']Of course I wanted to buy it! Why would I start the whole deal if I didn't? Just enlighten me as to how I'm acting childish, when you're the one who backed out on the trade since you weren't patient enough. A lack of patience like that is a childish quality, and you seem to have it. I don't know why you did that, but whatever. I'm glad this is over with. Good luck to you in the future.[/QUOTE]

WTF is with the screed about business ethics?

This is game swapping and selling between other fans and even a b&m store wouldnt put up with that crap.
 
WTF? Won't anyone just see MY MAIN POINT: I just wanted the guy to tell me an offer was coming up, and that's all. Everything would of been cool if he just did that, and from there I wouldn't care.

Think about it, you're pretty close to buying a game you really want for a great price, but you have to wait a couple of days to go make a money order and to ship it out due to school or whatever. Then within a few days of the actual trade coming up, the guy tells you, "Hey man, another offer came up. Sorry, k bye. Good luck!", wouldn't you be the slightest bit pissed off?

Just answer that question to me.

I actually have money on me, and I was going to fill out a money order and ship it out within a few days, but it's just those extra curricular activities get in the way to prevent that.

And thank you for the guy that actually isn't on his side, even though he's neither on mine. O well
 
[quote name='Msut77']WTF is with the screed about business ethics?

This is game swapping and selling between other fans and even a b&m store wouldnt put up with that crap.[/quote]

Let's see, business ethics would include responsibility, respect, the "little things", amongst others. In this case, Valor19, failed to take the responsibility to just let me know that a trade was coming up, and instead failed to show respect and simply threw me aside, just because I wasn't fast enough to get the money. I made this deal a month ago, just so he knows I'm interested in it, and will consider to atleast hold onto it, instead of never telling him any interest of the game, and run the risk of him selling it before I had the cash.

And the "little things" would include him not "tattling" on me, telling on the "bad man". It's between you and me, and you just felt like you had to tell the whole world, and barely respond to me, so you have CAG users back you up, and make you feel like a real man. O ya sure....
 
[quote name='chasaer']WTF? Won't anyone just see MY MAIN POINT: I just wanted the guy to tell me an offer was coming up, and that's all. Everything would of been cool if he just did that, and from there I wouldn't care.

Think about it, you're pretty close to buying a game you really want for a great price, but you have to wait a couple of days to go make a money order and to ship it out due to school or whatever. Then within a few days of the actual trade coming up, the guy tells you, "Hey man, another offer came up. Sorry, k bye. Good luck!", wouldn't you be the slightest bit pissed off?

Just answer that question to me.

I actually have money on me, and I was going to fill out a money order and ship it out within a few days, but it's just those extra curricular activities get in the way to prevent that.

And thank you for the guy that actually isn't on his side, even though he's neither on mine. O well[/QUOTE]

Was it really 26 days?
 
[quote name='chasaer']I'm fine with him trading, but what I'm guessing is that all of you have skimmed through my messages, and the only thing I would of appreciated is if the guy just said, "If you don't hurry it up, I'm going to sell it, because I have an offer coming through."

That's all I wanted, and he couldn't even do that for me....

And who are you quoting me out of context, Sleepkyng? What's your problem anyway??[/QUOTE]

The dude shouldn't HAVE to do that at all. You don't fucking make deals with someone when you don't have the cash ready. It's just the simple, he shouldn't be expected to wait on you to get the cash YOU should of already had it when you started the deal. He was nice enough to give you two weeks and I wouldn't have done that when it sounded like a sinking ship of excuses. He was smart to get out while he could and to expect him to wait on you is fucking lame. So next time don't start a deal when you don't have the cash ready,or if it so happens one of these "important" dates are coming up.
 
[quote name='munch']I can wrap this whole thread up by saying both sides are immature. Who gets all worked because and calls someone a jackass if a trade falls through? And then, who actually makes a whole thread about it and names names? I don't like it either way.[/quote]

I'm just here to add more poo into the poo storm
 
AGAIN, I REPEAT MYSELF: Think about it, you're pretty close to buying a game you really want for a great price, but you have to wait a couple of days to go make a money order and to ship it out due to school or whatever. Then within a few days of the actual trade coming up, the guy tells you, "Hey man, another offer came up. Sorry, k bye. Good luck!", wouldn't you be the slightest bit pissed off?

And hey, guess what? I'm going to repeat myself, because no one bothers to read!

"I made this deal a month ago, just so he knows I'm interested in it, and will consider to atleast hold onto it, instead of never telling him any interest of the game, and run the risk of him selling it before I had the cash."

^^Doesn't that make sense?

And yes it's true, he wouldn't have to tell me another deal is coming up, but wouldn't it be in our best interests to do so? I can respect the fact that he doesn't want to deal with me, waiting long enough, and he can be fed up, but couldn't he just leave me one comment telling me that's he's in the process of selling it, and if I don't have the cash within 2 days OR even in a shorter date, he will sell it to someone else.

You guys act as if this short date would be about a week or so, but all I wanted was a warning, even if it gave me like 2 days to get money. And if I don't oh well.

I don't understand why you guys can't see it from my point of view. I can see yours, since he wouldn't want to wait for days upon days, so just tell me that, and then I could try to set out my priorities differently to accomodate this deal.

And who the **** do you think you are Silent Assassin120, calling these things "important" dates, using quotes?? Hmm? Just so I actually love my Mom and girlfriend enough to want to spend a large amount on them for their birthdays. Oh that's right, you probably don't get anything for your Mom, and your girlfriend, ya ok, if she even exists....
 
Oh and good luck Valor19, since you could of got about $50 for Minish Cap, when you sold it for about 1/3 the value. You just couldn't wait, could you? You just had to sell it immediately, didn't you?
 
[quote name='chasaer']Oh and good luck Valor19, since you could of got about $50 for Minish Cap, when you sold it for about 1/3 the value. You just couldn't wait, could you? You just had to sell it immediately, didn't you?[/QUOTE]
26 days isn't immediately. He waited longer for you than I would have.
 
[quote name='chasaer']Oh and good luck Valor19, since you could of got about $50 for Minish Cap, when you sold it for about 1/3 the value. You just couldn't wait, could you? You just had to sell it immediately, didn't you?[/quote]

Would you seriously pay $50 for that game? Let me know.
 
[quote name='chasaer']Check Ebay folks. The game goes for more than $30, I can tell you that.[/QUOTE]

All the more reason you were foolish to string him along like that.

Respect goes both ways. If you knew it would take you at least a month for you to get the money, you should have told him up front.
 
Reminds me when someone offered me WarioWare Touched for my Meteos. I flat out told him what WarioWare Touched was worth.

Damn, I still somewhat want that game.
[quote name='dopa345']All the more reason you were foolish to string him along like that.

Respect goes both ways. If you knew it would take you at least a month for you to get the money, you should have told him up front.[/quote]
 
[quote name='chasaer']And the "little things" would include him not "tattling" on me, telling on the "bad man". It's between you and me, and you just felt like you had to tell the whole world, and barely respond to me, so you have CAG users back you up, and make you feel like a real man. O ya sure....[/QUOTE]

You should not have whined and tried to make him feel guilty.

He decided to vent rather than sit and be angry and in the process (not sure if he meant it not) showed us how silly you are.
 
fuck that - if someone gives me an offer and they don't reply within a week (unless I've agreed to hold it), it is back on my trade list. I'd expect the same if I made an offer to someone and did not contact them for quite some time about the deal.

valor: most people I've dealt with on CAG are nice people to deal with in trading. Not to worry if one of them is a jerk - shake it off and move on. I wouldn't, on the other hand, go out of my way to post about it. I'd tell the other party to piss off, and I'd move on.
 
I can't believe you didn't mention me in the OP with the list of great people on CAG, I'm the one that gave you your custom title.

Back before the boards switched over I had about 50 trades on here, they all went great but as the site grows it seemed like more bad got in than the good. So I just stopped trading and the more I see threads like this the more I know I made the right decision.
 
[quote name='valor19']
He also asked for pics and I sent him pics of the game. Since he still has no money and has FEAR still on his trade list, I offer to trade for FEAR again since he says he still wants Zelda.

He says:
"o ya, and yo remember how I feel about trading away that game. In other words, could you keep on waiting for me? And just inform me if another offer comes up for Minish Cap?"

So, now it has been 26 days since we first talked about the trade. I decided to put the game back on my trade list as it doesn't appear he is actually going to buy the game and I assume by "inform me if another offer comes along" meant that if someone else offered to buy the game. So, another CAG offered me money and I sold the game. Instead of just leaving him hanging, I actually wrote to him, apologized, and told him another CAG bought the game and wished him best of luck.

He writes back:
"All I'm going to say is dude, wtf? Sorry to sound like an a-hole, but a deal is a deal, and it was just a matter of time before I got the money. These are not business-like ethics. When you make a deal, you stick to the deal, like a man. And even then, I may acknowledge the fact that if you've waited enough, and another came up, you can consider it. But for the fact that you didn't notify me of this guy giving an offer earlier is just a stab in the back to me. Honestly, if you told me, "Hey man, I'm getting an offer for Minish Cap here, you think you can get the money sooner?" Or something would have been perfectly acceptable to me, and I would somehow try to pull some funds out of my ass to get the game. So seriously, why did you do this to me? And just out of curiosity, did you even ship the game? How much is this guy offering? Honestly, if it that was me, I would at least stick to my word. Thank you for your patience at least thusfar, but this isn't the first time this happened to me, except the last guy didn't have the balls to at least respond, and just ignored it like it was nothing. What a jackass... Anyway, step up, and just tell me whats up with this whole thing?"

I haven't done much trading on CAG but what I have traded or sold has been a good experience. I would also like to add that what I have sold in the past for cash (some stuff prior to the new trading rating system) was sold well below what I could have ebay'd it for. But I would rather sell it to a CAG then anyone else. I like the community here and I think we should go that extra mile to help each other out. But this kind of behavior makes me not want to trade with CAGs. There are a lot of great people here at CAG (Javeryh, RelentlessRolento, Kayden, Shrike, Apossum, etc.) that make this a great forum. But it's people like that who act like pricks that ruin this place. I'm certainly not going to bring myself to his level by replying, instead I'll show you how some CAGs act behind close doors, as if PMs can conceal the fact that he is a douche bag. I think I was more than patient with him and I think most CAGs will agree. However, I think for now on I'll just trade my games in and take a loss, less hassle.[/QUOTE]


You replace game with another women, and it works out to be very funny. Its like a "why did you cheat on me" letter.
 
[quote name='CitizenB']You replace game with another women, and it works out to be very funny. Its like a "why did you cheat on me" letter.[/quote]

Yeah, the fact that person wrote all of that up is, pretty pathetic. I stopped reading a paragraph into it. instead of trying to save face and prove he is right he should see the error in his ways.
 
You're getting upset after you couldn't pay within nearly 4 weeks? Get over yourself man.

He even PMed you to let you know it was no longer available. You're showing yourself to be an ass IMO. The decent response would have been. "Thanks for holding it for me for so long, but I understand that you had to take an offer with a guy who could pay now."
 
Ah, another person to stick on my trade blacklist.

valor19, you're completely in the right. You waited far longer than you should have. Glad someone else picked up your game.

chasaer, communication works both ways. You could easily have PM'd valor19 and said you were still interested and working to get him the money. As it appears you didn't, it's your loss.
 
Chaser is going to be that guy who doesn't understand that when the bank gives you a loan, it wants interest. I can see him arguing with a teller that he's just going to borrow the money, and will bring it all back in 4 months, so why should he have to pay back more then he gets.

Time is money.
- Benjamin Franklin
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[quote name='shrike4242']Ah, another person to stick on my trade blacklist.

valor19, you're completely in the right. You waited far longer than you should have. Glad someone else picked up your game.

chasaer, communication works both ways. You could easily have PM'd valor19 and said you were still interested and working to get him the money. As it appears you didn't, it's your loss.[/quote]

I did PM him multiple times, and it seemed like you didn't bother to read my other posts, just the topic, and make your assumption there. And people miss the fact that getting the money isn't that hard, but combining it with the fact that I'm constantly busy all the time really limits my time to get an opportunity to send out anything. All I wanted to know was if he had another offer coming up, and that's it. He did in a sense do that, but too late, since it was already done, already disregarding me. I appreciate the length he waited, and that he must of been fed up, but that doesn't mean he has to treat me disrespectfully like that.
 
[quote name='Msut77']Yes it does.[/quote]

You're just giving me an immature response here. You have no justification and there shouldn't be any whatsoever to give a person the right to treat anyone direspectfully.
 
This is why I have this on my tradelist:

If something is PENDING that doesn't mean it's gone. Contact me anyways, If I like your offer more I can always cancel my previous offer. The way I see it both parties have the right to end the trade whenever they want for whatever reason, before any shipping takes place. Once someone ships I consider the deal done. So don't get upset. I've had some upset people send me very rude PMs cause I decided to cancel our deal.
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Thankfully I've only had 1 rude person, who in turn prompted me to put this on my tradelist. It just saves my butt, and I can just refer to this quote (which is clearly stated on my TL) if they get all huffy and puffy.

But isn't listing PMs in forums kinda Taboo around CAG?
 
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