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sblymnlcrymnl
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Where's the sources for this? I always knew that the country was full of idiots but I never knew that even the smartest state would be that low.
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[quote name='sblymnlcrymnl']Where's the sources for this? I always knew that the country was full of idiots but I never knew that even the smartest state would be that low.[/quote]
Standardized testing or somesuch, I suppose. I was going to add "if true" after "interesting" in the topic title, but I like it better this way. More 3dgy.
Standardized testing or somesuch, I suppose. I was going to add "if true" after "interesting" in the topic title, but I like it better this way. More 3dgy.
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I recall that around 100-110 being "Average" for a human. 85 is very slow, if not all most retarded. If you have some sources, I'd have a good chuckle.
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This is just an update of the results that were created after the 2000 election. It was only somewhat accurate then, and its only somewhat accurate now. A more accurate analysis of the 2000 election can be found here. In linking pages, they explain how they come up with the estimates of the state's average IQ (its based on SAT scores), and they only put the range from 94 to 104, a much smaller and easier to believe range than the 85-113 range of the original post.
There are still some striking results of the data, though: there's definitely some coorelation between IQ and propensity for voting for Bush. More so in 2004, since the highest ranking state, went for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. Also, note the significant coorelation between IQ and income, and the fact that Washington DC is ranked so low
There are still some striking results of the data, though: there's definitely some coorelation between IQ and propensity for voting for Bush. More so in 2004, since the highest ranking state, went for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004. Also, note the significant coorelation between IQ and income, and the fact that Washington DC is ranked so low
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[quote name='jmcc']It strikes me as quite funny that if Bush actually followed through on his "No Child Left Behind" act he'd have way less votes if he were allowed to run for more terms.[/quote]
It strikes me as funny that Kerry was able to get the Democratic nomination. But then one man's joke is another man's insult.
It strikes me as funny that Kerry was able to get the Democratic nomination. But then one man's joke is another man's insult.
[quote name='jmcc']It strikes me as quite funny that if Bush actually followed through on his "No Child Left Behind" act he'd have way less votes if he were allowed to run for more terms.[/quote]
Except for the fact that "No Child Left Behind" is the worst public school initiative ever created. I could rant for days about how terrible it is, but that is neither here nor there.
100 is average by definition. Just as a score of 1000 on the SAT's is average. The tests are designed so that on average the score has a median and mean of 100/1000 respectively.
Except for the fact that "No Child Left Behind" is the worst public school initiative ever created. I could rant for days about how terrible it is, but that is neither here nor there.
100 is average by definition. Just as a score of 1000 on the SAT's is average. The tests are designed so that on average the score has a median and mean of 100/1000 respectively.
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MA seems pretty smart, I always knew my state was smarter than texas.
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i don't know about those statistics, but i did actually do a similar thing with the information found here. this report was originally posted on CAG a while ago and can be found here. anyways, using a little color, we see this:
1. Massachusetts
2. Connecticut
3. Vermont
4. New Jersey
5. Wisconsin
6. New York
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Pennsylvania
10. Montana
11. Maine
12. Virginia
13. Nebraska
14. New Hampshire
15. Kansas
16. Wyoming
17. Indiana
18. Maryland
19. North Dakota
20. Ohio
21. Colorado
22. South Dakota
23. Rhode Island
24. Illinois
25. North Carolina
26. Missouri
27. Delaware
28. Utah
29. Idaho
30. Washington
31. Michigan
32. South Carolina
33. Texas and West Virginia (tie)
35. Oregon
36. Arkansas
37. Kentucky
38. Georgia
39. Florida
40. Oklahoma
41. Tennessee
42. Hawaii
43. California
44. Alabama
45. Alaska
46. Louisiana
47. Mississippi
48. Arizona
49. Nevada
50. New Mexico
the two i left blank are the ones that haven't gone one way or the other. the report is based on the public school systems of the states, so it may not apply to adults officially, but you get the idea.
1. Massachusetts
2. Connecticut
3. Vermont
4. New Jersey
5. Wisconsin
6. New York
7. Minnesota
8. Iowa
9. Pennsylvania
10. Montana
11. Maine
12. Virginia
13. Nebraska
14. New Hampshire
15. Kansas
16. Wyoming
17. Indiana
18. Maryland
19. North Dakota
20. Ohio
21. Colorado
22. South Dakota
23. Rhode Island
24. Illinois
25. North Carolina
26. Missouri
27. Delaware
28. Utah
29. Idaho
30. Washington
31. Michigan
32. South Carolina
33. Texas and West Virginia (tie)
35. Oregon
36. Arkansas
37. Kentucky
38. Georgia
39. Florida
40. Oklahoma
41. Tennessee
42. Hawaii
43. California
44. Alabama
45. Alaska
46. Louisiana
47. Mississippi
48. Arizona
49. Nevada
50. New Mexico
the two i left blank are the ones that haven't gone one way or the other. the report is based on the public school systems of the states, so it may not apply to adults officially, but you get the idea.
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If the original chart was accurate, I am about three times smarter than the average person in Mississippi.
I could move there and be their god.
I could move there and be their god.
I fail to see where your point lies. So what? ON AVERAGE the Kerry states are more intelligent.You can say almost anything with the right statistics You have to remember that Florida is full of senile old people and dumbass fratboys (Fl St, U of F, UM I mean come on!!!!!) Are you suggesting that "smarter" states should have a more heavily weight of electoral college? Sounds like a great idea to me, that would really go well. How about weight each individual vote on intelligence. I know my vote would go much farther then.
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[quote name='sying']I fail to see where your point lies. So what? ON AVERAGE the Kerry states are more intelligent.You can say almost anything with the right statistics You have to remember that Florida is full of senile old people and dumbass fratboys (Fl St, U of F, UM I mean come on!!!!!) Are you suggesting that "smarter" states should have a more heavily weight of electoral college? Sounds like a great idea to me, that would really go well. How about weight each individual vote on intelligence. I know my vote would go much farther then.[/quote]
The electoral college is fine. I'm saying there should be a IQ cut-off limit for the right to vote.
The electoral college is fine. I'm saying there should be a IQ cut-off limit for the right to vote.
I have *heard* [and don't have time to hunt the sources right now] that many traditional Democratic voters come from two main social strata: blue collar, factory working, union-type man [who generally don't have a lot of education and might not score well on IQ or SAT tests], and the upper reaches of academia [something like 90% of any university's teaching staff is at least 'moderate' if not hardcore liberal/Democrat.] We can assume those folks to be 'intelligent' according to IQ/SAT tests. So perhaps, if there's any validity to the numbers and tests [fodder for another thread] the Democrat side is the ends, the R side is the middle, of a Bell-like curve.
And of course there's still 40% of the population that didn't vote at all; 40% is an immense 'margin of error'.
If this shows anything, it shows more of the Democrat's intellectual elitism and divisive tactics.
And like sying says, you can say almost anything with the right numbers; and like many Democrats know, there are three types of falsehoods; Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
How about:
Gender?
Weight?
Race?
Age?
Generations in the US?
Family size?
Family makeup [divorced, two parent, nuclear, extended, etc]?
I saw one study a while back that the states that were considered more 'polite, courteous, and mannerly' went overwhelmingly for Bush/Republicans [in 2000].
And of course there's still 40% of the population that didn't vote at all; 40% is an immense 'margin of error'.
If this shows anything, it shows more of the Democrat's intellectual elitism and divisive tactics.
And like sying says, you can say almost anything with the right numbers; and like many Democrats know, there are three types of falsehoods; Lies, damn lies, and statistics.
How about:
Gender?
Weight?
Race?
Age?
Generations in the US?
Family size?
Family makeup [divorced, two parent, nuclear, extended, etc]?
I saw one study a while back that the states that were considered more 'polite, courteous, and mannerly' went overwhelmingly for Bush/Republicans [in 2000].
[quote name='jmcc'][quote name='sying']I fail to see where your point lies. So what? ON AVERAGE the Kerry states are more intelligent.You can say almost anything with the right statistics You have to remember that Florida is full of senile old people and dumbass fratboys (Fl St, U of F, UM I mean come on!!!!!) Are you suggesting that "smarter" states should have a more heavily weight of electoral college? Sounds like a great idea to me, that would really go well. How about weight each individual vote on intelligence. I know my vote would go much farther then.[/quote]
The electoral college is fine. I'm saying there should be a IQ cut-off limit for the right to vote.[/quote]
That would harm the Democrats more than anyone else.
Seeing as how traditionally blacks, in general, vote Democratic, and according to the second link's quote that:
"the most likely reason for the lower IQ’s in southern states is the high proportion of Blacks in those states. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level. "
And of course the focus on IQ level, rather than any true problems or solutions, would basically continue beholding them to the Democrats:
"factors other than IQ (like social skills) account for MOST of the success of an individual...All evidence points to no racial differences in the average level of these other success traits." So a focus on IQ, which many experts believe cannot be changed, merely distracts from true ways someone can better himself.
The electoral college is fine. I'm saying there should be a IQ cut-off limit for the right to vote.[/quote]
That would harm the Democrats more than anyone else.
Seeing as how traditionally blacks, in general, vote Democratic, and according to the second link's quote that:
"the most likely reason for the lower IQ’s in southern states is the high proportion of Blacks in those states. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level. "
And of course the focus on IQ level, rather than any true problems or solutions, would basically continue beholding them to the Democrats:
"factors other than IQ (like social skills) account for MOST of the success of an individual...All evidence points to no racial differences in the average level of these other success traits." So a focus on IQ, which many experts believe cannot be changed, merely distracts from true ways someone can better himself.
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[quote name='dtcarson'][quote name='jmcc'][quote name='sying']I fail to see where your point lies. So what? ON AVERAGE the Kerry states are more intelligent.You can say almost anything with the right statistics You have to remember that Florida is full of senile old people and dumbass fratboys (Fl St, U of F, UM I mean come on!!!!!) Are you suggesting that "smarter" states should have a more heavily weight of electoral college? Sounds like a great idea to me, that would really go well. How about weight each individual vote on intelligence. I know my vote would go much farther then.[/quote]
The electoral college is fine. I'm saying there should be a IQ cut-off limit for the right to vote.[/quote]
That would harm the Democrats more than anyone else.
Seeing as how traditionally blacks, in general, vote Democratic, and according to the second link's quote that:
"the most likely reason for the lower IQ’s in southern states is the high proportion of Blacks in those states. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level. "
And of course the focus on IQ level, rather than any true problems or solutions, would basically continue beholding them to the Democrats:
"factors other than IQ (like social skills) account for MOST of the success of an individual...All evidence points to no racial differences in the average level of these other success traits." So a focus on IQ, which many experts believe cannot be changed, merely distracts from true ways someone can better himself.[/quote]
I'm not really proposing it as a partisian issue. How can the country not benefit if it's voters get smarter?
The electoral college is fine. I'm saying there should be a IQ cut-off limit for the right to vote.[/quote]
That would harm the Democrats more than anyone else.
Seeing as how traditionally blacks, in general, vote Democratic, and according to the second link's quote that:
"the most likely reason for the lower IQ’s in southern states is the high proportion of Blacks in those states. African-Americans consistently test at an average 85 IQ level. "
And of course the focus on IQ level, rather than any true problems or solutions, would basically continue beholding them to the Democrats:
"factors other than IQ (like social skills) account for MOST of the success of an individual...All evidence points to no racial differences in the average level of these other success traits." So a focus on IQ, which many experts believe cannot be changed, merely distracts from true ways someone can better himself.[/quote]
I'm not really proposing it as a partisian issue. How can the country not benefit if it's voters get smarter?
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[quote name='sying']I fail to see where your point lies. So what? ON AVERAGE the Kerry states are more intelligent.You can say almost anything with the right statistics You have to remember that Florida is full of senile old people and dumbass fratboys (Fl St, U of F, UM I mean come on!!!!!) Are you suggesting that "smarter" states should have a more heavily weight of electoral college? Sounds like a great idea to me, that would really go well. How about weight each individual vote on intelligence. I know my vote would go much farther then.[/quote]
No, it's not the people who voted for Bush that are at fault. They are just not very educated, but I'm sure that many of them were well intentioned. The truly despicable, deplorable actors in this modern tragedy are the propagandists like Karl Rove who take advantage of these people with a less-then-average-education. As Americans, I believe that these people have good hearts but little sense of the international world or how Bush's policies continually reward the corporations/super-rich at the expense of the middle class. Just read the top part of this link, you'll get my point:
http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9487&fcategory_desc=Under Reportedhttp://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9487&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported
No, it's not the people who voted for Bush that are at fault. They are just not very educated, but I'm sure that many of them were well intentioned. The truly despicable, deplorable actors in this modern tragedy are the propagandists like Karl Rove who take advantage of these people with a less-then-average-education. As Americans, I believe that these people have good hearts but little sense of the international world or how Bush's policies continually reward the corporations/super-rich at the expense of the middle class. Just read the top part of this link, you'll get my point:
http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9487&fcategory_desc=Under Reportedhttp://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=9487&fcategory_desc=Under%20Reported
CaptainObviousXl
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[quote name='sying']I fail to see where your point lies. So what? ON AVERAGE the Kerry states are more intelligent.You can say almost anything with the right statistics You have to remember that Florida is full of senile old people and dumbass fratboys (Fl St, U of F, UM I mean come on!!!!!) Are you suggesting that "smarter" states should have a more heavily weight of electoral college? Sounds like a great idea to me, that would really go well. How about weight each individual vote on intelligence. I know my vote would go much farther then.[/quote]nah i think this is just suggesting that the average kerry voter IS more inteligent than the average Bush voter. I mean people with a lower iq are most likely going to vote for bush, as they see it things are great, they cant see past propaganda, and scandals. My aunt (who voted for bush) when was talking on the phone strongly belived that Sadam had something to do with 9/11. My dad was showing her offical proof that he had nothing to do with it, yet she still didnt belive him. I was actualy supprised to see that people actualy think this
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Get a load of this (also check out the guys' response):
God's Anointed One Was Elected-
Be Afraid
http://www.rense.com/general59/godse.htm
What you are about to read is an actual email Jeff Rense received...
Mr. Rense,
Hello! I believe what we have here as far as the 2004 elections is a close tie between the devil and God. Not Kerry and Bush. And God prevailed obviously and placed the most morale person in office during the "end times".
Abortion and Christanity are reasons for my voting for Bush along with the gay marriage ban! I have been rejoicing since Bush's (the good Lord aboves Win!) victory. He is a family and moral man and believes in the sanctity of marriage, honesty, anti-choice/pro life. He is going back to the beliefs of our founding fathers of the U.S.A.
Of course since God is with Bush the world hates him because they don't want to turn to the bible and away from their vile-sinful lifestyles that are abominable to God. Jesus was hated by the world too. Doesn't it make since when you are born again TRULY through the blood of Christ the world would hate you too? Well, that is Bush. Wake-up. Bush sincerely cares about this nation because he has the love of God living within him. So, it is ones choice to accept Christ or not. If not they send themselves to hell by living in opposition to Gods rule. Don't blame him.
God Bless,
(Name removed)
____
If your mouth is not hanging open, it should be. Reading this, whether you are a Christian or non-Christian, should turn your blood cold as ice.
What you have just read demonstrates how powerfully these people in Washington, in cooperation with media, tele-evangelists, right wing pundits and authors, and even local ministers, have through outrageous polarization created mindless, belief-driven drones who clearly have lost all ability to discern true good from true evil.
They have completely abandoned the warnings of Christ regarding false Christ's, false prophets and those who would 'come in His name', accepting them as genuine God-chosen leaders, with the perfect blend of psychotic nationalism and fundamentalism that can only lead to serious disaster. These people are fully convinced and persuaded that George Bush and the political party they lay claim to is just one step from holy; special, set apart from the sinful world and sinful, evil "democrats" "independents" and other Satanic non-republican/NeoCons, chosen by God, led by God, and most specifically, ordained by Jesus Christ, Himself.
They are so polarized that, as the letter above reveals, they truly believe the political opposition to be either evil, of the devil or somehow backed by Satan and clearly rejected by God. The writer of the letter sees George Bush as the hand picked man of God to lead America; even the world.
It makes me wonder what she thought of President Clinton, who was also apparently chosen by God; in fact, over Pat Robertson, a minister of the Gospel!
This is so close to worship that it is quite scary. This person is no longer making political evaluations based on facts or reality, but upon a new Christian faith suited just for US politics, created and formulated by NeoCons and others. Their Jesus is clearly not the Jesus of scripture, but a new Jesus, and Bush is His Pope.
The new Jesus is a warlord, who calls upon his earthly minions to smite evil -- whereas the Jesus of scripture says the exact opposite. The new Jesus desires to see government conformed to Christianity -- whereas the Jesus of scripture had no regard for earthly goverment, neither did any of his Apostles seek to change government.
The new Jesus believes in killing for peace, whereas the Jesus of scripture called for self-sacrifice over all, and never doing harm to another, even when wronged. The new Jesus is clearly a capitalist and favors corporate America over all -- whereas the Jesus of scripture held no reguard for business or profit making whatsoever, but gave freely and taught his followers to do likewise.
These NeoChristians have so lost their way that they represent a perfect picture of everything the prophets, Christ and the Apostles warned about regarding the seductive power of evil in the likeness of good, "for do not marvel, that Satan comes as an angel of light and his ministers as ministers of the paths of righteousness." They are the perfect example of how easy it will be for the forth coming Antichrist to bring about what Paul called "a great falling away" from the faith, when the man of sin is revealed. Through a false peace, and promise of security, he will destroy the many.
The George Bush this woman has placed her faith in to such an enormous degree is the same George Bush who, while claiming to be a Christian, put to death Carla Faye Tucker, who asked only that her death sentenced be changed to life in prison, so that she could continue her prison ministry for Christ, which she had labored over for 14 years while behind bars for a crime she committed while in drug-induced stupor as a teenager. The same George Bush who saw fit to silence the voice of the Gospel of salvation in Christ through Carla via execution, claiming he could not even stay her execution, much less commute her sentence to life in prison. The same George Bush who turned right around and stayed the execution of serial killer and sexual predator Henry Lee Lucas, allowing him to live out his life in prison and die of natural causes behind bars, while doing numerous television interviews and flaunting his grinning, Satanic face for media-hogs lapping up the blood of his sordid tales of rape, mutilation and murder.
Her reasoning is beyond comprehension. The world hates George Bush, so he MUST be approved by God, because Jesus was also hated by the world. This kind of twisted rationale is precisely the kind of retarded pablum being served in Churches and on Christian television across the nation to the ignorant and gullible. The disdain for Bush comes from him being so like Jesus. It sounds like something Sean Hannity might actually spout, with a straight face. It's enough to make one vomit.
The mass murderer Pol Pot was hated by the world, ipso facto, he MUST have been approved of God and doing the right thing. If this is the level of discernment and intellect NeoChristianity is creating in the sheeple, there is going to be serious hell to pay. Christians worth their salt and aware had better take these poor brothers and sisters aside and do everything they can to unscramble their poor brains, before it's too late.
Whether one believes in the prophets or not, the letter above is a chilling reminder of just how unhinged and divorced from reality well meaning people can be taken, with just the right finely tuned influences and forces. Every thinking Christian should distance him or herself openly, vocally, loudly and clearly from everything and anything having to do with this psychotic ilk, not only for the sake of Christ, but for the sake of the nation.
God's Anointed One Was Elected-
Be Afraid
http://www.rense.com/general59/godse.htm
What you are about to read is an actual email Jeff Rense received...
Mr. Rense,
Hello! I believe what we have here as far as the 2004 elections is a close tie between the devil and God. Not Kerry and Bush. And God prevailed obviously and placed the most morale person in office during the "end times".
Abortion and Christanity are reasons for my voting for Bush along with the gay marriage ban! I have been rejoicing since Bush's (the good Lord aboves Win!) victory. He is a family and moral man and believes in the sanctity of marriage, honesty, anti-choice/pro life. He is going back to the beliefs of our founding fathers of the U.S.A.
Of course since God is with Bush the world hates him because they don't want to turn to the bible and away from their vile-sinful lifestyles that are abominable to God. Jesus was hated by the world too. Doesn't it make since when you are born again TRULY through the blood of Christ the world would hate you too? Well, that is Bush. Wake-up. Bush sincerely cares about this nation because he has the love of God living within him. So, it is ones choice to accept Christ or not. If not they send themselves to hell by living in opposition to Gods rule. Don't blame him.
God Bless,
(Name removed)
____
If your mouth is not hanging open, it should be. Reading this, whether you are a Christian or non-Christian, should turn your blood cold as ice.
What you have just read demonstrates how powerfully these people in Washington, in cooperation with media, tele-evangelists, right wing pundits and authors, and even local ministers, have through outrageous polarization created mindless, belief-driven drones who clearly have lost all ability to discern true good from true evil.
They have completely abandoned the warnings of Christ regarding false Christ's, false prophets and those who would 'come in His name', accepting them as genuine God-chosen leaders, with the perfect blend of psychotic nationalism and fundamentalism that can only lead to serious disaster. These people are fully convinced and persuaded that George Bush and the political party they lay claim to is just one step from holy; special, set apart from the sinful world and sinful, evil "democrats" "independents" and other Satanic non-republican/NeoCons, chosen by God, led by God, and most specifically, ordained by Jesus Christ, Himself.
They are so polarized that, as the letter above reveals, they truly believe the political opposition to be either evil, of the devil or somehow backed by Satan and clearly rejected by God. The writer of the letter sees George Bush as the hand picked man of God to lead America; even the world.
It makes me wonder what she thought of President Clinton, who was also apparently chosen by God; in fact, over Pat Robertson, a minister of the Gospel!
This is so close to worship that it is quite scary. This person is no longer making political evaluations based on facts or reality, but upon a new Christian faith suited just for US politics, created and formulated by NeoCons and others. Their Jesus is clearly not the Jesus of scripture, but a new Jesus, and Bush is His Pope.
The new Jesus is a warlord, who calls upon his earthly minions to smite evil -- whereas the Jesus of scripture says the exact opposite. The new Jesus desires to see government conformed to Christianity -- whereas the Jesus of scripture had no regard for earthly goverment, neither did any of his Apostles seek to change government.
The new Jesus believes in killing for peace, whereas the Jesus of scripture called for self-sacrifice over all, and never doing harm to another, even when wronged. The new Jesus is clearly a capitalist and favors corporate America over all -- whereas the Jesus of scripture held no reguard for business or profit making whatsoever, but gave freely and taught his followers to do likewise.
These NeoChristians have so lost their way that they represent a perfect picture of everything the prophets, Christ and the Apostles warned about regarding the seductive power of evil in the likeness of good, "for do not marvel, that Satan comes as an angel of light and his ministers as ministers of the paths of righteousness." They are the perfect example of how easy it will be for the forth coming Antichrist to bring about what Paul called "a great falling away" from the faith, when the man of sin is revealed. Through a false peace, and promise of security, he will destroy the many.
The George Bush this woman has placed her faith in to such an enormous degree is the same George Bush who, while claiming to be a Christian, put to death Carla Faye Tucker, who asked only that her death sentenced be changed to life in prison, so that she could continue her prison ministry for Christ, which she had labored over for 14 years while behind bars for a crime she committed while in drug-induced stupor as a teenager. The same George Bush who saw fit to silence the voice of the Gospel of salvation in Christ through Carla via execution, claiming he could not even stay her execution, much less commute her sentence to life in prison. The same George Bush who turned right around and stayed the execution of serial killer and sexual predator Henry Lee Lucas, allowing him to live out his life in prison and die of natural causes behind bars, while doing numerous television interviews and flaunting his grinning, Satanic face for media-hogs lapping up the blood of his sordid tales of rape, mutilation and murder.
Her reasoning is beyond comprehension. The world hates George Bush, so he MUST be approved by God, because Jesus was also hated by the world. This kind of twisted rationale is precisely the kind of retarded pablum being served in Churches and on Christian television across the nation to the ignorant and gullible. The disdain for Bush comes from him being so like Jesus. It sounds like something Sean Hannity might actually spout, with a straight face. It's enough to make one vomit.
The mass murderer Pol Pot was hated by the world, ipso facto, he MUST have been approved of God and doing the right thing. If this is the level of discernment and intellect NeoChristianity is creating in the sheeple, there is going to be serious hell to pay. Christians worth their salt and aware had better take these poor brothers and sisters aside and do everything they can to unscramble their poor brains, before it's too late.
Whether one believes in the prophets or not, the letter above is a chilling reminder of just how unhinged and divorced from reality well meaning people can be taken, with just the right finely tuned influences and forces. Every thinking Christian should distance him or herself openly, vocally, loudly and clearly from everything and anything having to do with this psychotic ilk, not only for the sake of Christ, but for the sake of the nation.
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