Is Halo 2 the most over rated game of all time IYO?

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I have played through Halo 2 and I can honestly say that it is an amazing game, but in no way can it live up to the hype. The game was supposed to be the best game of all time, but it just turned out to be just a very solid console FPS game. No game has been has hyped as much as Halo 2, so therefore I must vote yes. Don’t get me wrong; Halo 2 is a very good game, but it is way over rated IMO.
 
[quote name='Trakan']If you didn't want to see a flame war, you shouldn't have made this topic. ;)[/quote]

I think he's asking blatantly for a flame war so I'll begin.

Yes its the most overhyped game ever, even more than Metal Gear Solid 2, the bouncer and suikoden 2. :wink:
 
[quote name='Trakan']If you didn't want to see a flame war, you shouldn't have made this topic. ;)[/quote]

That is true, but I want to know what other people think on this topic. I believe people on these forums are civilized enough to discuss this without starting a flame war. I hope I am proven correct.
 
I'll make this brief, I think Halo 2 is overrated, but not to the degree that the first Halo was. Halo 2 is saved by it's decent multiplayer, not the best multiplayer in the world, but still good.
 
Was it overhyped? Yes. If it was to videogames what movies are to the Godfather I and II, LOTR Trilogy, and the first Star Wars trilogy, all rolled into one, it still would have been a disappointment compared to all the hype. Campaign mode is more comparable to Return of the Jedi - somewhat disappointing, with some parts not as good as they should be, but still kick ass enough to deserve a place in your collection. Multiplayer mode is exactly what I expected; the only complaints are the fact you can't use guests in ranked games, and it could use a few more maps.
 
[quote name='TomCloud9']Halo is kinda average game, the campain sucks but the multiplayer owns.[/quote]

i thought it was alot of fun..but ur right, the campaign blew..i mean, i got lost like every mission cus everything looked the same!!...but when there was action..i had a blast!...multiplayer pwns as well..but i think the most overhyped game was ninja gaiden...i hated that game :(..graphics were awesome..but it was too damn hard!
 
[quote name='greydemise'][quote name='TomCloud9']Halo is kinda average game, the campain sucks but the multiplayer owns.[/quote]

i thought it was alot of fun..but ur right, the campaign blew..i mean, i got lost like every mission cus everything looked the same!!...but when there was action..i had a blast!...multiplayer pwns as well..but i think the most overhyped game was ninja gaiden...i hated that game :(..graphics were awesome..but it was too damn hard![/quote]

Ok, hold up.

Everything looked the same? Do you have eyes?
 
I think Halo 2 was VERY overhyped...I enjoyed the first one, but not to the point where I thought it was amazing. The controls were never the best and the graphics were pretty good but not jaw dropping...Halo 2 has a problem with not rendering fast enough...Almost every cutscene has someone not drawn in until about 5 seconds through the scene...The gameplay was repetitive and linear. Multiplayer is...well...based on pure luck...It takes pretty much no skill to win or lose a dual...I will take RS3 over Halo 2 anyday...Im very disapointed I payed 55 dollars for this piece of shit...but it will stay in my collection as a lesson learned...dont believe hype to any degree...You may end up buying another copy of "The Bouncer".


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I voted "yes", as it is overhyped.

The campaign is bland and online grows old after a few weeks. Everything looked the same to me also, especially the Covenant missions. I've said it so many times, so I won't bother getting into it again. i sold my copy.

The thing that struck me though that I haven't mentioned is this: For a game with so much hype, what was so innovative and groundbreaking about it? The original Halo, although i didn't care much for it, set new standards for FPS. What did Halo 2 add to the mix that we have never seen? Dual Wielding? Done before. Energy Swords? Debate rages on about it being a "cheese" weapon. Vehicles? Done in the original. Vehicle damage? THAT MUST BE IT!

I just can't understand how such a mediocre game can gather so much hype and still sustain it.
 
Do we really need a "Halo 2 is overhyped OMG!!!!111" topic every damn day? There are at least 30 other threads pertaining to this.
 
Very over hyped. I compare it to the 2nd coming of jesus. Over Rated? No, it's a great game and was better than Halo 1 so I got what I wanted it from it.
 
I just started playing through the campaign yesterday, and so far I'm having a blast. So far I think it's very solid. The levels are well thought out, the AI has been very solid, and the voice-overs in the cut-scenes are done very well. So far I'm having as much or more fun than I did with Halo 1's campaign (which is no small feat). Halo is a very solid 9/10 in my book (probably closer to 9.5). While I don't think it can live up to the hype the game received (no game could), it's still a very solid game.

Overhyped yes, but not overrated.
 
Single player on normal is very bland.

Coop on Legendary is better than anything the first game had to offer.

The Live play is more addictive than even I ever thought it would be. Over rated? No way. The ratings have all mentioned the flaws and in my view have over-emphasized them as they are minimal and best. The repetitive nature of the levels is an issue but that has become nearly an FPS staple, especially on consoles with limited texture memory.

The gameplay itself remains fantastic and despite my initial reservations, I love the game. In fact, I'd say after a month of playing I actually like it more than when I first busted it out of the box.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']The thing that struck me though that I haven't mentioned is this: For a game with so much hype, what was so innovative and groundbreaking about it? The original Halo, although i didn't care much for it, set new standards for FPS. What did Halo 2 add to the mix that we have never seen? Dual Wielding? Done before. Energy Swords? Debate rages on about it being a "cheese" weapon. Vehicles? Done in the original. Vehicle damage? THAT MUST BE IT![/quote]

NOBODY EVER SAID IT WAS INNOVATIVE AND GROUND BREAKING.

JESUS CHRIST
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']The thing that struck me though that I haven't mentioned is this: For a game with so much hype, what was so innovative and groundbreaking about it? The original Halo, although i didn't care much for it, set new standards for FPS. What did Halo 2 add to the mix that we have never seen? Dual Wielding? Done before. Energy Swords? Debate rages on about it being a "cheese" weapon. Vehicles? Done in the original. Vehicle damage? THAT MUST BE IT![/quote]

NOBODY EVER SAID IT WAS INNOVATIVE AND GROUND BREAKING.

JESUS CHRIST[/quote]

just beacuse they never said it doesn't me they didn't imply it. I remeber stuff like best game ever, its going to be worth the wait, and I heard plenty of other hype from bungie. When you sent my expectations that high it better damn well be innovative and ground breaking not just halo 1 and 1/2
 
[quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']The thing that struck me though that I haven't mentioned is this: For a game with so much hype, what was so innovative and groundbreaking about it? The original Halo, although i didn't care much for it, set new standards for FPS. What did Halo 2 add to the mix that we have never seen? Dual Wielding? Done before. Energy Swords? Debate rages on about it being a "cheese" weapon. Vehicles? Done in the original. Vehicle damage? THAT MUST BE IT![/quote]

NOBODY EVER SAID IT WAS INNOVATIVE AND GROUND BREAKING.

JESUS CHRIST[/quote]

just beacuse they never said it doesn't me they didn't imply it. I remeber stuff like best game ever, its going to be worth the wait, and I heard plenty of other hype from bungie. When you sent my expectations that high it better damn well be innovative and ground breaking not just halo 1 and 1/2[/quote]

Who said all that stuff? BUNGIE AND THE MEDIA. Bungie has money to make, so of course they're going to overhype it. And the media...they overhype EVERYTHING. Remember how great they claimed Driv3r was going to be?

I really wish people, ESPECIALLY video game players, would STOP getting overhyped for stuff before they have a chance to play it. If you keep your expectations at a reasonable level maybe you won't be so disappointed in games all the time.
 
[quote name='safer_sephiroth']halo 2 isn't nearly as overrated as gta. besides, halo 2 was actually a good game.[/quote]

Gamerankings (both critic's review and gamer votes) disagrees with you...

And I agree with zionoverfire's comments. I cannot tell you how many times I heard Halo 2 associated with "best game ever", "groundbreaking" on the part of Bungie, among other things.

Is Halo 2 still a good game? Definitely. I would give the single player mode a 7 out of 10...I haven't played it on XBL yet.

Is Halo 2 overhyped and/or overrated...most definitely?
 
[quote name='TJordan522']It may have been over hyped, but I dont think it's over rated.[/quote]

Couldn't have said it better...
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='zionoverfire'][quote name='mmn'][quote name='manofpeace20']The thing that struck me though that I haven't mentioned is this: For a game with so much hype, what was so innovative and groundbreaking about it? The original Halo, although i didn't care much for it, set new standards for FPS. What did Halo 2 add to the mix that we have never seen? Dual Wielding? Done before. Energy Swords? Debate rages on about it being a "cheese" weapon. Vehicles? Done in the original. Vehicle damage? THAT MUST BE IT![/quote]

NOBODY EVER SAID IT WAS INNOVATIVE AND GROUND BREAKING.

JESUS CHRIST[/quote]

just beacuse they never said it doesn't me they didn't imply it. I remeber stuff like best game ever, its going to be worth the wait, and I heard plenty of other hype from bungie. When you sent my expectations that high it better damn well be innovative and ground breaking not just halo 1 and 1/2[/quote]

Who said all that stuff? BUNGIE AND THE MEDIA. Bungie has money to make, so of course they're going to overhype it. And the media...they overhype EVERYTHING. Remember how great they claimed Driv3r was going to be?

I really wish people, ESPECIALLY video game players, would STOP getting overhyped for stuff before they have a chance to play it. If you keep your expectations at a reasonable level maybe you won't be so disappointed in games all the time.[/quote]

Disappointed by games all the time? Prince of Persia Warrior within was excellent and so is Metal Gear Soild 3, GTA SA all of those had at least some hype and they at least bothered to deliver on it. In all I'm quite happy with the new realease but Halo 2 was well pathetic.
 
Did you like the game ? If not then don't be mad other people do. So there was alot of hype around the game, big deal everything gets hype. Does every superbowl live up to the hype ? Single player isn't that good, it's ok but not fantastic. But Multiplayer is fantastic, and it's only going to get better when the DLC shows up.

I don't care if you think it's overrated, the fact that I can now Run over CheapyD in a Banshee is worth 50 bucks.
 
[quote name='zionoverfire']Disappointed by games all the time? Prince of Persia Warrior within was excellent and so is Metal Gear Soild 3, both of those had some hype and they at least bothered to deliver on it.[/quote]

While I'm glad you enjoyed POP 2 and MGS 3, neither of them had the same hype as Halo 2. Halo was way overhyped by EVERYONE and it caused expectations to become so great that no game could ever have matched it.

I guarantee you if nobody had ever heard of Halo and they had released this game it would be getting a nice buzz from gamers. But because everyone expected the game to cure cancer and end world hunger, its getting shit on all the time.
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='zionoverfire']Disappointed by games all the time? Prince of Persia Warrior within was excellent and so is Metal Gear Soild 3, both of those had some hype and they at least bothered to deliver on it.[/quote]

While I'm glad you enjoyed POP 2 and MGS 3, neither of them had the same hype as Halo 2. Halo was way overhyped by EVERYONE and it caused expectations to become so great that no game could ever have matched it.

I guarantee you if nobody had ever heard of Halo and they had released this game it would be getting a nice buzz from gamers. But because everyone expected the game to cure cancer and end world hunger, its getting shit on all the time.[/quote]

Agree'd.
 
Let me just clarify my initial statement. What bothers me is that Halo was over hyped tremendously by the media, Bungie, and fans. What bothers me even more however is that fanboys continue to hype the game to no end; saying that it is easily the best game ever. Sure this game is great and everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion; but ranking this game above Soul Calibur, Mario 3, Street Fighter 2, LTTP, etc is unjust.
 
[quote name='ananag112']Let me just clarify my initial statement. What bothers me is that Halo was over hyped tremendously by the media, Bungie, and fans. What bothers me even more however is that fanboys continue to hype the game to no end; saying that it is easily the best game ever. Sure this game is great and everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion; but ranking this game above Soul Calibur, Mario 3, Street Fighter 2, LTTP, etc is unjust.[/quote]

I completely agree but at the same time the "fanboys" have a right to their own opinion. So if they want to say it's the best game ever, I think they are completely wrong, but they can still hold that opinion.

It's not like anything we say will change their minds. My opinion (based on single-player mode only), similar to others, is that Halo 2 is definitely overhyped and overrated. It's a solid FPS, but that's it. It's single-player mode (except for the vehicles which rock) is as good as Killzone's...

Other people (i.e. fanboys and others) think differently. Oh well, what can you do....
 
It is completely overhyped and overrated in my opinion.

I'll still play through the single player eventually (once I get through with other games that are actually complete products - in terms of polish and not rushed work), but as a whole, I can only give the game a 6 or 7/10.

And multiplayer is the most overhyped aspect of it all. Sure its still fun with your friends, but the online is such a mixed bag with people lagging down whole games and just ruining it for everyone.

I'm having tons more fun with Chronicles of Riddick, which I got for $10 on black friday.
 
[quote name='Zoltek99'][quote name='ananag112']Let me just clarify my initial statement. What bothers me is that Halo was over hyped tremendously by the media, Bungie, and fans. What bothers me even more however is that fanboys continue to hype the game to no end; saying that it is easily the best game ever. Sure this game is great and everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion; but ranking this game above Soul Calibur, Mario 3, Street Fighter 2, LTTP, etc is unjust.[/quote]

I completely agree but at the same time the "fanboys" have a right to their own opinion. So if they want to say it's the best game ever, I think they are completely wrong, but they can still hold that opinion.

It's not like anything we say will change their minds. My opinion (based on single-player mode only), similar to others, is that Halo 2 is definitely overhyped and overrated. It's a solid FPS, but that's it. It's single-player mode (except for the vehicles which rock) is as good as Killzone's...

Other people (i.e. fanboys and others) think differently. Oh well, what can you do....[/quote]

Yes, I guess you are correct. It is all a matter of opinion.
 
Well MMN, nice to see your "logic". As other users have said, there are other games that actually do live up to the hype. I'm sorry, but when prior to 11/9 all gamers were freaking out about 1.5 million preorders, potential of being sold out everywhere, XBL servers exploding, and basically the greatest game ever made, I am expecting something a little different than what turned out to be an expansion pack for Halo. I'm not here insulting the people that do like it--more power to them-- but I felt cheated by paying 45 dollars for the limited edition.
 
[quote name='ananag112']Let me just clarify my initial statement. What bothers me is that Halo was over hyped tremendously by the media, Bungie, and fans. What bothers me even more however is that fanboys continue to hype the game to no end; saying that it is easily the best game ever. Sure this game is great and everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion; but ranking this game above Soul Calibur, Mario 3, Street Fighter 2, LTTP, etc is unjust.[/quote]

So you're a fanboy for those games and some people are fanboys for Halo 2? What is the difference? I don't know how you can be disappointed in Halo 2. It is a sequal. It delivers exactly what we got in the first game, with some improvements such a dual wielding, more diverse locations, more weapons, etc. Then you have online play as well added in. If you didnt like Halo 1, or thought it was just an average to good game, odds are you will think the same about Halo 2. And since it was obviously going to be the same kind of game, you should have easily known that going in. If you expected to be anything more, then that it your fault. Stop blaming Bungie, the media and fanboys.
 
[quote name='Gameboy415']It is completely overhyped and overrated in my opinion.

I'll still play through the single player eventually (once I get through with other games that are actually complete products - in terms of polish and not rushed work), but as a whole, I can only give the game a 6 or 7/10.

And multiplayer is the most overhyped aspect of it all. Sure its still fun with your friends, but the online is such a mixed bag with people lagging down whole games and just ruining it for everyone.

I'm having tons more fun with Chronicles of Riddick, which I got for $10 on black friday.[/quote]

I agree with you on the Chronicles of Riddick part. I have enjoyed that game more then Halo 2 single player wise. But with multiiplayer Halo 2>COR IMO.. IMO 6/10 is a bit low for this game. I would give Halo 2 a 8.7 where 5 is considered average.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']Well MMN, nice to see your "logic". As other users have said, there are other games that actually do live up to the hype. I'm sorry, but when prior to 11/9 all gamers were freaking out about 1.5 million preorders, potential of being sold out everywhere, XBL servers exploding, and basically the greatest game ever made, I am expecting something a little different than what turned out to be an expansion pack for Halo. I'm not here insulting the people that do like it--more power to them-- but I felt cheated by paying 45 dollars for the limited edition.[/quote]

Exactly what were you expecting then? It was going to be like Halo because it is a sequal to Halo. More of the same type of campaign with some improvements and online added in. Wasn't that hard for me to figure out what I was going to get from the game, regardless of how many other people preordered it.
 
[quote name='mmn'][quote name='greydemise'][quote name='TomCloud9']Halo is kinda average game, the campain sucks but the multiplayer owns.[/quote]

i thought it was alot of fun..but ur right, the campaign blew..i mean, i got lost like every mission cus everything looked the same!!...but when there was action..i had a blast!...multiplayer pwns as well..but i think the most overhyped game was ninja gaiden...i hated that game :(..graphics were awesome..but it was too damn hard![/quote]

Ok, hold up.

Everything looked the same? Do you have eyes?[/quote]

maybe it didnt help taht i was playing it late at night when i got all my work done..but i wud say mostly the covenant levels..like most of the area looked alike..maybe i shoulda been more clear like..say u were inside on of the bases of watevers..all the walls looked alike.and it was kinda hard to tell where to go
 
[quote name='TheRaven'][quote name='manofpeace20']Well MMN, nice to see your "logic". As other users have said, there are other games that actually do live up to the hype. I'm sorry, but when prior to 11/9 all gamers were freaking out about 1.5 million preorders, potential of being sold out everywhere, XBL servers exploding, and basically the greatest game ever made, I am expecting something a little different than what turned out to be an expansion pack for Halo. I'm not here insulting the people that do like it--more power to them-- but I felt cheated by paying 45 dollars for the limited edition.[/quote]

Exactly what were you expecting then? [/quote]

Maybe a finished product with single player levels that didn't suck ass? Instead, we get an game that was cut in length so they could make us pay more down the line.
 
You just mentioned it was an expansion pack of Halo. Which means the single player is built off of that. If you liked Halo 1 single player, its the same with stuff added in. So to say it sucked ass is foolish.

Of course, unless, you didn't like Halo 1 at all, which means it is even more foolish to think that you would love Halo 2.
 
What does hype have to do with how good a game is? That arguement is a bunch of crap. Name another console game that has better online play. You can't.
 
[quote name='TheRaven'][quote name='ananag112']Let me just clarify my initial statement. What bothers me is that Halo was over hyped tremendously by the media, Bungie, and fans. What bothers me even more however is that fanboys continue to hype the game to no end; saying that it is easily the best game ever. Sure this game is great and everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion; but ranking this game above Soul Calibur, Mario 3, Street Fighter 2, LTTP, etc is unjust.[/quote]

So you're a fanboy for those games and some people are fanboys for Halo 2? What is the difference? I don't know how you can be disappointed in Halo 2. It is a sequal. It delivers exactly what we got in the first game, with some improvements such a dual wielding, more diverse locations, more weapons, etc. Then you have online play as well added in. If you didnt like Halo 1, or thought it was just an average to good game, odds are you will think the same about Halo 2. And since it was obviously going to be the same kind of game, you should have easily known that going in. If you expected to be anything more, then that it your fault. Stop blaming Bungie, the media and fanboys.[/quote]

First of all I am a fanboy of no game (except for any Resident Evil game). I am dissapointed in Halo 2 because the game seemed a bit short to me, some of the things that hindered Halo are not fixed in Halo 2. Also, the cliffhanger ending is sort of evil :twisted:. I have nothing against the game itself, but I feel it is overrated by the media and by Halo 2 fans. I am not a big fan of FPS console games, but I enjoyed some ike Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Time Splitters 2. Halo was a good game, but I was expecting a bit more because of the hype. I know this all may sound strange coming from a Resident Evil fan.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']What does hype have to do with how good a game is? That arguement is a bunch of crap. Name another console game that has better online play. You can't.[/quote]

I like Rainbow Six 3 online better. But I do agree that hype has nothing to do with how good a game is.
 
[quote name='manofpeace20']I felt cheated by paying 45 dollars for the limited edition.[/quote]

Which is all fine and good, but YOU'RE the one saying its innovative and ground breaking. I really enjoy the game, I know others who really enjoy the game, and nobody is saying the game is innovative and ground breaking. Stop saying the entire industry and fanbase is implying something which they never have.

I'm sorry, but when prior to 11/9 all gamers were freaking out about 1.5 million preorders, potential of being sold out everywhere, XBL servers exploding, and basically the greatest game ever made, I am expecting something a little different than what turned out to be an expansion pack for Halo.
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So you expected Halo 2 to be a completely different game than Halo 1? That's YOUR issue, then. You bought into the hype and were let down. I fail to see how that's anyone's problem but your own.

My suggestion still stands : stop buying into the hype for games and maybe you'll actually enjoy them more.
 
[quote name='VanillaGorilla']What does hype have to do with how good a game is? That arguement is a bunch of crap. Name another console game that has better online play. You can't.[/quote]

I like Splinter Cell: PT better, but they are completely different. If Super Monkey Ball was online, I think that would be my favorite, but that too is completely different (more so then SC:pT).
 
[quote name='ananag112']First of all I am a fanboy of no game (except for any Resident Evil game). I am dissapointed in Halo 2 because the game seemed a bit short to me, some of the things that hindered Halo are not fixed in Halo 2. Also, the cliffhanger ending is sort of evil :twisted:. I have nothing against the game itself, but I feel it is overrated by the media and by Halo 2 fans. I am not a big fan of FPS console games, but I enjoyed some ike Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Time Splitters 2. Halo was a good game, but I was expecting a bit more because of the hype. I know this all may sound strange coming from a Resident Evil fan.[/quote]

Cool, that's great that you didn't like Halo 2 as much as other people did. I don't care why you didn't like Halo 2. But you said that it is unjust that some people like it more than Soul Calibur, SF2, etc..It is not unjust for someone to like a game more than another. Your statement was unjust to people that enjoy the game and to people that have rights to their opinions.
 
[quote name='ananag112'][quote name='VanillaGorilla']What does hype have to do with how good a game is? That arguement is a bunch of crap. Name another console game that has better online play. You can't.[/quote]

I like Splinter Cell: PT better, but they are completely different. If Super Monkey Ball was online, I think that would be my favorite, but that too is completely different (more so then SC:pT).[/quote]

Something I agree with. SMB would rock online.
 
[quote name='TheRaven'][quote name='ananag112']First of all I am a fanboy of no game (except for any Resident Evil game). I am dissapointed in Halo 2 because the game seemed a bit short to me, some of the things that hindered Halo are not fixed in Halo 2. Also, the cliffhanger ending is sort of evil :twisted:. I have nothing against the game itself, but I feel it is overrated by the media and by Halo 2 fans. I am not a big fan of FPS console games, but I enjoyed some ike Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, and Time Splitters 2. Halo was a good game, but I was expecting a bit more because of the hype. I know this all may sound strange coming from a Resident Evil fan.[/quote]

Cool, that's great that you didn't like Halo 2 as much as other people did. I don't care why you didn't like Halo 2. But you said that it is unjust that some people like it more than Soul Calibur, SF2, etc..It is not unjust for someone to like a game more than another. Your statement was unjust to people that enjoy the game and to people that have rights to their opinions.[/quote]

Yes I know that people have a right to their opinion. It bothers me though that people are so quick to give a game the title of best game of all time without taking the time to put the game in perspective.
 
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